Re: Using Debian Installer

2004-03-15 Thread alex

 

I don't understand how I can install Knoppix3.3 by using the new
Debian Installer. Would someone please give me basic idiot proof
instructions.   John.

The Knoppix HD install is very simple--you don't need the new
Debian Installer
http://www.freenet.org.nz/misc/knoppix-install.html

Or do a Google search for   ' knoppix hard drive '
for other options
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Re: Using Debian Installer

2004-03-13 Thread john gennard



Damon L. Chesser wrote:

Now I understand. This did flit across my mind,  but  I couldn't 
conceive why I should want
to install Debian when I already have both Woody and Sarge on this 
box. Thanks for
replying.   
John.


What are you trying to do?  Knoppix is Debian, but in a mix of  
woody, testing, unstable.  You can do all of that with your Sarge 
install.  What do you want to accomplish?  Learn Linux, install 
Debian.  Learn of different distros?  Then use the live-cd feature of 
Knoppix.  Your response to S. Keeling has me very confused over what 
you hope to get done. 


My wife runs Windoze and frequently gets into difficulty with freezes 
and so forth.
I've convinced her to have a Linux install in a separate partition so 
that she will
always have a solid setup to fall back on. I often refer to Knoppix  
when I want
to try to understand something, and I thought I could do a hard disk 
install and
prune it to down to leave only what she would need. Before attempting 
this  I
decided to do an install on one of my boxes just to see if there would 
be any
problems and confirm it would be suitable for her.

Right, there are now three ways of doing a hard disk install - one I 
don't
understand, the second is David McNab's 'knx-hdinstall' and the third 
using
'knoppix-installer' a new approach employing a GUI. I used 
'knoppix-installer'
and everything seemed fine at first until I started re-writing some 
files and
found the these were being rewritten on the next boot ( the most 
obvious case
was with /etc/fstab -the knoppix-autoconfig script ran and all 22 
partitions
I have on this box were scanned, /etc/fstab overwritten and icons 
placed on
the Desktop). I stopped the /etc/fstab problem with chattr -i, but then I
discovered that the rcx.d files contained virtually nothing compared 
to Woody
or Sarge. At this point I asked for assistance (on a local list ) and 
one reply
suggested I used the new Debian Installer. As I didn't understand what 
was
involved I posted to this list.

Now, I'm well into my seventies and did not have any Computer until I was
long retired. After a few months wrestling with Windoze I switched to
Debian and since then I have always had a solid fully working System
(never a crash). I've learned a lot - by trial and asking on this 
list  (I've been
subscribed continuosly for almost six years), but there are still 
areas into
which I have not so far ventured. My wife is also long retired, but does
not have my inquiring mind - I swear she feels her Computer should also
cook the meals.

I'm sorry if I caused your confusion. I know I can try a new install 
using
'knx-hdinstall' which worked for me  a couple of years ago when I was
checking Knoppix out, but I wondered why 'knoppix-installer' didn't
seem to do the complete job and then the red herring of the Debian
Installer made me very confused.

Regards,  John. 
Forwarded the above to Damon in error instead of to the list. Apologies!





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Using Debian Installer

2004-03-12 Thread john gennard
I usually run Woody or Sarge (depending on mood!) and tried to do
a hard disk install of Knoppix3.3 in a separate partition (to see if I
could later install it on the wife's computer). Although the install
seemed to go well , each reboot runs the script called
'knoppix-autoconfig'  in /etc/init.d and I have nothing else except
xsession calls in /rcx.d. So I asked for advice from my local Linux
Group - as usual I got responses, one of which  interests me and
yet confuses me.
Briefly, the suggestion was why not do a normal install? . you
could even help test the new Debian Installer.Details and a request
to help the  testing process are at:-
http:// www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ 
I don't understand how I can install Knoppix3.3 by using the new
Debian Installer. Would someone please give me basic idiot proof
instructions.   John.
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Re: Using Debian Installer

2004-03-12 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from john gennard:
 
 Briefly, the suggestion was why not do a normal install? . you
 could even help test the new Debian Installer.Details and a request
 to help the  testing process are at:-
 http:// www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ 
 
 I don't understand how I can install Knoppix3.3 by using the new
 Debian Installer. Would someone please give me basic idiot proof
 instructions.   John.

They're suggesting you install _stock_ Debian instead of Knoppix
(which is based on Debian).  This may or may not be what you want to
do. 


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Re: Using Debian Installer

2004-03-12 Thread john gennard
s. keeling wrote:

Incoming from john gennard:
 

Briefly, the suggestion was why not do a normal install? . you
could even help test the new Debian Installer.Details and a request
to help the  testing process are at:-
   http:// www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ 
I don't understand how I can install Knoppix3.3 by using the new
Debian Installer. Would someone please give me basic idiot proof
instructions.   John.
   

They're suggesting you install _stock_ Debian instead of Knoppix
(which is based on Debian).  This may or may not be what you want to
do. 
 

Now I understand. This did flit across my mind,  but  I couldn't 
conceive why I should want
to install Debian when I already have both Woody and Sarge on this box. 
Thanks for
replying.   
John.

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Re: Using Debian Installer

2004-03-12 Thread Damon L. Chesser
john gennard wrote:

s. keeling wrote:

Incoming from john gennard:
 

Briefly, the suggestion was why not do a normal install? . you
could even help test the new Debian Installer.Details and a request
to help the  testing process are at:-
   http:// www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ 
I don't understand how I can install Knoppix3.3 by using the new
Debian Installer. Would someone please give me basic idiot proof
instructions.   John.
  


They're suggesting you install _stock_ Debian instead of Knoppix
(which is based on Debian).  This may or may not be what you want to
do.  

Now I understand. This did flit across my mind,  but  I couldn't 
conceive why I should want
to install Debian when I already have both Woody and Sarge on this 
box. Thanks for
replying.   
John.


What are you trying to do?  Knoppix is Debian, but in a mix of  woody,
testing, unstable.  You can do all of that with your Sarge install.
What do you want to accomplish?  Learn Linux, install Debian.  Learn of
different distros?  Then use the live-cd feature of Knoppix.  Your
response to S. Keeling has me very confused over what you hope to get done.
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