Re: Does KDE desktop environment work with Stretch VNC server?
My system has a vnc server that I downloaded from github. I installed the
debian package and replaced with compiled vnc.
2017. aug. 26. 9:36 ezt írta ("Niclas Arndt" ):
> Hi,
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> OpenSUSE 42.1 had a problem with running a VNC server on the KDE desktop
> environment. It forced me to use XFCE, which is ok although I prefer KDE.
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> Now I am installing Debian Stretch and rather than risk having to redo the
> installation, I thought I should ask if you know whether KDE VNC server
> works on Stretch.
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> Grateful for your input.
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> /Niclas
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Does KDE desktop environment work with Stretch VNC server?
Hi, OpenSUSE 42.1 had a problem with running a VNC server on the KDE desktop environment. It forced me to use XFCE, which is ok although I prefer KDE. Now I am installing Debian Stretch and rather than risk having to redo the installation, I thought I should ask if you know whether KDE VNC server works on Stretch. Grateful for your input. /Niclas
Re: Raspbian vnc server autostart
On Mon, 2016-01-11 at 18:12 +0800, Bernard Lee wrote: > 😊Dear Debian, > I'm Bernard.I have a little problem with my raspberry pi 2 running > Raspbian > Jessie. > Hope you can help me.I don't know how to set my pi turn on the vnc > server > when boot. > I don't know how to set the bootconfig.txt. please tell me how to > fix it when you reply.i'm > from Hong Kong. > Yours, > Lee Tsz Wo Bernard This should help: https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-raspberry-pi-lesson-7-remote-control-with-vnc/running-vncserver-at-startup -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Raspbian vnc server autostart
😊Dear Debian, I'm Bernard.I have a little problem with my raspberry pi 2 running Raspbian Jessie. Hope you can help me.I don't know how to set my pi turn on the vnc server when boot. I don't know how to set the bootconfig.txt. please tell me how to fix it when you reply.i'm from Hong Kong. Yours, Lee Tsz Wo Bernard
Re: Gnome 3 VNC server issue
On 2015-07-03, Rob Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > When try to enable my vnc server on Debian Jessie: > > I have to unmanage my network interfaces from /etc/network/interfaces > > The only way to start remote desktop on my internal interface is to > let the gnome network manager control my interface. > > This is unwanted behavior as i use my system als server and want to > manage my interfaces by config file rather then using the graphical > network manager. > > - start vnc server without network interfaces - show the interfaces > managed by the /etc/network/interfaces You could ignore GNOME's built-in desktop sharing and use a package like vnc4server instead. -- Liam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmpfm57.ckm.liam.p.otoole@dipsy.tubbynet
Gnome 3 VNC server issue
When try to enable my vnc server on Debian Jessie: I have to unmanage my network interfaces from /etc/network/interfaces The only way to start remote desktop on my internal interface is to let the gnome network manager control my interface. This is unwanted behavior as i use my system als server and want to manage my interfaces by config file rather then using the graphical network manager. - start vnc server without network interfaces - show the interfaces managed by the /etc/network/interfaces -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c29ba8fb-20d0-4720-b5e0-3b45404a0...@gmail.com
Re: OT: Wheezy/XFCE: remote desktop service difficulties with VNC server
>On Nov 18, 2013 6:15 PM, "Ralf Mardorf" wrote: > > On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 16:33 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > I don't know what happened to > quoting in your message but it was nigh-on > > unreadable. It might be worth a look at your mailer settings. > > By Emilio’s quoting some > paragraphs became endless lines, >so the > quotation sign is only at the beginning of the paragraph. It becomes > readable without line wrapping and it's comfortable to scroll using mice > with horizontal wheels. > > Emilio, it's common practise to break a line after around 72 chars, IIRC > allowed are 80 chars. Don't quote whole messages, only what's needed, > IOW next time at least cut the signature of the mail you're quoting. > > Regards, > Ralf > Sorry for the bad posting. I was using Android's Gmail client which I'm not familiar with. EmilioLLBB
OT: Wheezy/XFCE: remote desktop service difficulties with VNC server
On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 16:33 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I don't know what happened to quoting in your message but it was nigh-on > unreadable. It might be worth a look at your mailer settings. By Emilio’s quoting some paragraphs became endless lines, so the quotation sign is only at the beginning of the paragraph. It becomes readable without line wrapping and it's comfortable to scroll using mice with horizontal wheels. Emilio, it's common practise to break a line after around 72 chars, IIRC allowed are 80 chars. Don't quote whole messages, only what's needed, IOW next time at least cut the signature of the mail you're quoting. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1384794915.1093.52.camel@archlinux
Re: Wheezy/XFCE: remote desktop service difficulties with VNC server
Hi, I don't know what happened to quoting in your message but it was nigh-on unreadable. It might be worth a look at your mailer settings. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131118163302.ga11...@bryant.redmars.org
Re: Wheezy/XFCE: remote desktop service difficulties with VNC server
On 17/11/2013 20:40, Emilio Lopez wrote: I think what you are looking for is x11vnc which allows you to view local session by vnc EmilioLLBB Emilio, brilliant, I'd missed the need for it. Installed, and after reading man x11vnc - it's quite long - used: $ x11vnc -display :0 Gave us the user's desktop remotely, at 1440 x 900. Just what we wanted to achieve. On 17/11/2013 20:53, Reco wrote: It's like this: 1) You need to be able to run some X app over network - you use vnc4server or tightvnc. You run it over VNC - any local user won't notice anything. 2) You need to be able to control X display of a local user - you use x11vnc, which attaches to a local X display. You run something over VNC - local user immediately sees that someone's moving windows on their desktop. This is very interesting. I'd assumed that VNC only let you into the user's session, but explained this way it is much more capable than I'd thought, and this explains why I saw its 'new' sessions each time I tried. Whilst our use-case, to date, has been to access the user's session, I think this could be useful in the future. Neal's remarks about screen virtualisation raise the prospect of setting up some multi-segment sessions on larger screens; these could help at some presentation and training events. Very useful thread, my thanks to the list, we're up and running with VNC on Wheezy/XFCE now. regards, Ron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/528a3ed3.5030...@tesco.net
Re: Wheezy/XFCE: remote desktop service difficulties with VNC server
On Sunday, November 17, 2013 03:53:14 PM Reco wrote: > On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 20:15:02 + > > Ron Leach wrote: > > X could not detect the attached screen because its cable is switched > > across a KVM which seems to destroy the EDID information; I'd already > > manually configured a Modeline for 1440x900. (This works fine on the > > attached screen even through the KVM.) The remote desktop appears to > > be 4x3 shape, and something closer to 800x600, I would guess. > > Vnc4server doesn't (and should not) take into account any EDID. The > entire point of VNC is to be able run even if video card(s) is > physically absent at the host. > Try experimenting with '-screen' and '-dpi' VNC options. To expand, vncserver creates an X11 server session that uses a virtual video card (in effect). Hence the 'virtual' in 'virtual network computing'. 'vncserver -geometry 1024x300' will create a 1024 wide x 300 high virtual display available via :1; 'vncviewer :1' will dutifully display it in a 1024x300 window (plus trimmings). VNC isn't rdesktop. As far as I know, the viewer can only display the virtual X session. If you had a local X server configured to use a 2x2 matrix of 1920x1080 displays as one logical display, you could have it run vncviewer to display a remote 3840x2160 VNC session fullscreen. (In theory, at least.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201311171629.08146.neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu
Re: Wheezy/XFCE: remote desktop service difficulties with VNC server
On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 20:15:02 + Ron Leach wrote: > X could not detect the attached screen because its cable is switched > across a KVM which seems to destroy the EDID information; I'd already > manually configured a Modeline for 1440x900. (This works fine on the > attached screen even through the KVM.) The remote desktop appears to > be 4x3 shape, and something closer to 800x600, I would guess. Vnc4server doesn't (and should not) take into account any EDID. The entire point of VNC is to be able run even if video card(s) is physically absent at the host. Try experimenting with '-screen' and '-dpi' VNC options. > Though XFCE 'settings' does allow the display resolution to be > checked/changed using the keyboard and attached screen, on the remote > desktop XFCE - instead - does not and complains that RandR is version > 1.1, not v1.2 . AFAIK changing display resolution is not implemented in vnc4server (and tightvnc, for that matter, too). > No such complaint on the physical desktop. Very odd; > I wonder if this means that the Xsession being used for the remote is > not the same as the Xsession being used for the physical user session? Unlikely. /etc/X11/Xsession should be used by any display manager they put into Debian. > I'll look deeper into logs; it might also explain why applications > that the user is running do not show up on the remote desktop. It's like this: 1) You need to be able to run some X app over network - you use vnc4server or tightvnc. You run it over VNC - any local user won't notice anything. 2) You need to be able to control X display of a local user - you use x11vnc, which attaches to a local X display. You run something over VNC - local user immediately sees that someone's moving windows on their desktop. > I've left vnc4server installed. If I don't get anywhere with logs > I'll try replacing it with tightvnc. > > Reco, much obliged, that was a helpful post. You're welcome. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131118005314.a1d4c6b6a22254b3f5bb5...@gmail.com
Re: Wheezy/XFCE: remote desktop service difficulties with VNC server
On Nov 17, 2013 9:15 PM, "Ron Leach" wrote: > > On 17/11/2013 18:01, Reco wrote: >> >> >> Your .Xauthority seems to be misconfigured (probably owned by root). >> Please ensure that this file is owned by regular user and has 0600 >> permissions. > > > Thanks, done. > >> >> >> Your xstartup script tries to execute non-installed 'gnome-session'. >> Try replacing 'gnome-session' with '/etc/X11/Xsession', > > > Huge steps forward following your suggestion. Working remote desktop achieved, but 'not' the same desktop as hosted on the attached screen. Differences are screen resolution, and application windows. > > Had to use slightly different layout compared to your suggestion, maybe this /home/ward/.vnc/xstartup is still is not quite correct: > >> #!/bin/sh >> >> # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: >> #unset SESSION_MANAGER >> #exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc >> > > ## Those had been uncommented, but did not provide usable screen ## > > >> >> [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup >> [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources >> xsetroot -solid grey >> vncconfig -iconic & >> x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" & >> x-window-manager & >> >> # added by user following a post on Debian Users list >> /etc/X11/Xsession >> > > X could not detect the attached screen because its cable is switched across a KVM which seems to destroy the EDID information; I'd already manually configured a Modeline for 1440x900. (This works fine on the attached screen even through the KVM.) The remote desktop appears to be 4x3 shape, and something closer to 800x600, I would guess. Though XFCE 'settings' does allow the display resolution to be checked/changed using the keyboard and attached screen, on the remote desktop XFCE - instead - does not and complains that RandR is version 1.1, not v1.2 . No such complaint on the physical desktop. Very odd; I wonder if this means that the Xsession being used for the remote is not the same as the Xsession being used for the physical user session? I'll look deeper into logs; it might also explain why applications that the user is running do not show up on the remote desktop. > > I've left vnc4server installed. If I don't get anywhere with logs I'll try replacing it with tightvnc. > > Reco, much obliged, that was a helpful post. > > regards, Ron > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/528923c6.4010...@tesco.net > I think what you are looking for is x11vnc which allows you to view local session by vnc EmilioLLBB
Re: Wheezy/XFCE: remote desktop service difficulties with VNC server
On 17/11/2013 18:01, Reco wrote: Your .Xauthority seems to be misconfigured (probably owned by root). Please ensure that this file is owned by regular user and has 0600 permissions. Thanks, done. Your xstartup script tries to execute non-installed 'gnome-session'. Try replacing 'gnome-session' with '/etc/X11/Xsession', Huge steps forward following your suggestion. Working remote desktop achieved, but 'not' the same desktop as hosted on the attached screen. Differences are screen resolution, and application windows. Had to use slightly different layout compared to your suggestion, maybe this /home/ward/.vnc/xstartup is still is not quite correct: #!/bin/sh # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: #unset SESSION_MANAGER #exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc > ## Those had been uncommented, but did not provide usable screen ## > [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey vncconfig -iconic & x-terminal-emulator -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" & x-window-manager & # added by user following a post on Debian Users list /etc/X11/Xsession X could not detect the attached screen because its cable is switched across a KVM which seems to destroy the EDID information; I'd already manually configured a Modeline for 1440x900. (This works fine on the attached screen even through the KVM.) The remote desktop appears to be 4x3 shape, and something closer to 800x600, I would guess. Though XFCE 'settings' does allow the display resolution to be checked/changed using the keyboard and attached screen, on the remote desktop XFCE - instead - does not and complains that RandR is version 1.1, not v1.2 . No such complaint on the physical desktop. Very odd; I wonder if this means that the Xsession being used for the remote is not the same as the Xsession being used for the physical user session? I'll look deeper into logs; it might also explain why applications that the user is running do not show up on the remote desktop. I've left vnc4server installed. If I don't get anywhere with logs I'll try replacing it with tightvnc. Reco, much obliged, that was a helpful post. regards, Ron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/528923c6.4010...@tesco.net
Re: Wheezy/XFCE: difficulties trying to provide remote desktop service with VNC server
Hi On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 15:57:14 + Ron Leach wrote: >> xauth: /home/ward/.Xauthority not writable, changes will be ignored Your .Xauthority seems to be misconfigured (probably owned by root). Please ensure that this file is owned by regular user and has 0600 permissions. > The vnc4server log file for this attempt shows: > > xsetroot: unable to open display 'D7box:1' > > /home/ward/.vnc/xstartup: 15: exec: gnome-session: not found Your xstartup script tries to execute non-installed 'gnome-session'. Try replacing 'gnome-session' with '/etc/X11/Xsession', like this: === cut === #!/bin/sh xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey /etc/X11/Xsession === cut === And you'll probably want to replace vnc4server with something modern, like tightvncserver. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131117220105.8ab59a6f12d35c5cbc542...@gmail.com
Wheezy/XFCE: difficulties trying to provide remote desktop service with VNC server
I'm hitting a problem trying to achieve remote desktop sharing for a new-build box with Wheezy/XFCE. The box is connected to the LAN for setting up and testing, and is assigned a static IPv4 address 192.168.0.100 . A normal XFCE user screen is presented (on a connected monitor) after login. I cannot seem to present this screen remotely. I use remote desktop a lot and have had no problem with previous Debian versions using Gnome or KDE, or with XFCE (although only previously with XFCE on Fedora, and served by vino); in each of these cases the remote screen is exactly the same as on a connected monitor, same user, same mouse position, etc. But I don't achieve this result. I've tried two approaches on this Wheezy/XFCE system: (a) Installing vnc4server, and alternatively (b) Enabling vnc service in LightDM's conf file. Installing VNC4server vnc4server is installed, and then started with $ vncserver which replies with xauth: /home/ward/.Xauthority not writable, changes will be ignored New 'D7box:1 (ward)' desktop is D7box:1 Starting applications specified in /home/ward/.vnc/xstartup Log file is /home/ward/.vnc/D7box:1.log Using vncviewer from a Windows desktop, connecting to 192.168.0.100:1 results in 'failed to connect'. Connecting to 192.168.0.100 (ie, without the :1) results in 'No password configured for VNC auth'. vncpasswd has been run, and a password set. The vnc4server log file for this attempt shows: xsetroot: unable to open display 'D7box:1' /home/ward/.vnc/xstartup: 15: exec: gnome-session: not found (x-window-manager:3269): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: D7box:1 (xfce4-terminal:3268): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: D7box:1 vncconfig: unable to open display "D7box:1" I then shut down the service that I'd started: ward@D7box:~$ vncserver -kill :1 But, I should say that though this is the current behaviour - since enabling vnc service in LightDM configuration - this was not the behaviour first experienced immediately after installing vnc4server. On the initial attempts, vncviewer did receive a remote desktop (and from ...100:1 in fact), but not the XFCE user desktop. Only a mid-grey background was seen, with a single 'terminal' window providing a CLI prompt. Trying to fix that, I'd found many postings on various lists and fora describing that circumstance, but no posts that I had found had been followed-up with solution or work-around posts. So I parked the problem at that point, and tackled a separate issue of auto-login, where I also found the option to configure LightDM with a vnc service. Enabling VNC through LightDM conf file LightDM's conf file ( /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ) also permits the enabling of a VNC service, which I've done. Here's the relevant section, with the remote geometry set to match the attached monitor used by the local XFCE desktop: # # VNC Server configuration # # enabled = True if VNC connections should be allowed # port = TCP/IP port to listen for connections on # [VNCServer] enabled=true port=5900 width=1440 height=900 depth=24 Logging in to this service (from vncviewer on a Windows desktop), results in the same auth failure as above: 'No password configured for VNC Auth' But I have run vncpasswd and set a password. Interestingly, there is no log file produced for this attempt - not that I can find in any /home/* directory, anyway. I did wonder whether this might be a clue that the remote desktop request is not 'defaulting' to the auto-login setting - but neither is it presenting a login screen, so I'm not sure. I'm not at all sure of my ground, here, and would be grateful for any suggestions that might help me debug the issue further. Please feel free to assume I know even less than you suspect I do :) so even the most basic of thoughts might be of help. regards, Ron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5288e75a.1030...@tesco.net
Re: Setting up simple VNC Server?
I use ssh to connect and create tunnels, then a simple "x11vnc -display :0" to startup the server. If you need to stay on windows, search the web for "easy ssh tunnels putty". vnc is not a secure protocol so don't rely on just setting a password if you are accessing from faraway-pc. -- Luther Blisset GNUPG/PGP KEY: 6722CF80 I challenge you to play the game in which there is no loser but everything is fun and worthwhile! --- Begin Message --- On 13Jul01:1518-0400, Art Huston wrote: > I'm looking for the simplest, quickest way to setup VNC Server so I can > access my Debian machine from Windows. There are a number of ways found on > the web -- is there a best practice? I use "ss vs" in one terminal, then "ss vv" in a second to establish the session, no VNC daemon needed. The stripped down (untested) ss script: #!/bin/sh ii=`cat /etc/iip | tr -d '\012'` # get my home's ISP Internet IP if [ "$1" = '' -o "$1" = '-h' -o "$1" = '--help' ] then cat < May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig__ "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe." __--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg_ signature.asc Description: Digital signature --- End Message --- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Setting up simple VNC Server?
On 13Jul01:1518-0400, Art Huston wrote: > I'm looking for the simplest, quickest way to setup VNC Server so I can > access my Debian machine from Windows. There are a number of ways found on > the web -- is there a best practice? I use "ss vs" in one terminal, then "ss vv" in a second to establish the session, no VNC daemon needed. The stripped down (untested) ss script: #!/bin/sh ii=`cat /etc/iip | tr -d '\012'` # get my home's ISP Internet IP if [ "$1" = '' -o "$1" = '-h' -o "$1" = '--help' ] then cat < May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave_Craig__ "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe." __--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg_ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Setting up simple VNC Server?
Art Huston wrote at 2013-07-01 14:18 -0500: > I'm looking for the simplest, quickest way to setup VNC Server so I can > access my Debian machine from Windows. There are a number of ways found on > the web -- is there a best practice? I do not know about a "best practice", but if I decide that I need to see a remote display, I run `x11vnc -passwd mysecret -display :0` on the remote system (VNC server) and `vncviewer host` on the local system to view it. For your case, install the x11vnc package on your Debian system and find a VNC viewer for Windows. I have noted that it may be necessary to add `-auth guess` to the x11vnc command, and also that I can use 'host:0', 'host:1', etc. in the local command to refer to different X displays on the remote system. Security may be an issue here; comments welcome. I have not bothered to consider it because all my connections are either local or over a VPN. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Setting up simple VNC Server?
I'm looking for the simplest, quickest way to setup VNC Server so I can access my Debian machine from Windows. There are a number of ways found on the web -- is there a best practice?
Re: vnc server
ChadDavis wrote: > Clarification. Are you saying that some vnc servers serve up a remote > login to a new session, while others simply share an existing gnome > session? Yes. vino shares the existing Gnome session (see System > Preferences > Remote Desktop). I'm sure there's an equivalent for KDE but I'm afraid I don't know what it might be. More generally, x0vncserver (x0vnc4server) shares the current desktop regardless of the desktop environment or window manager in use. vncserver (vnc4server) creates a new session for the remote user. If you're also a Windows person it's like the difference between using Remote Desktop to connect to a server in the usual fashion, and using it to connect to that server's console. (However, with RD connecting to the console, the console user gets locked out. With VNC the console gets shared.) For variety, there's also XDMCP, which allows your system to provide a full X11 Window session for remote displays (just like it used to be!), or you can drop an entry into /etc/inetd.conf (xinetd...) that spawns a new session when you vnc to that port. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/qml44axuu8@news.roaima.co.uk
Re: vnc server
ChadDavis wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > And then people found that starting a server was inconvenient. > > Wouldn't it be better to export the current desktop? Instead of > > exporting a new, unique and different desktop? It is possible. > > Clarification. Are you saying that some vnc servers serve up a remote > login to a new session, while others simply share an existing gnome > session? Yes. That is exactly what I am saying. When you start a vnc server session with vnc4server or tightvncserver or other then it starts a new X session. This is a completely new and separate X session on a new and different display (such as :1). Many people have it start a duplicate of their standard X session from :0 but onto the next X display :1. Meaning that if they are running GNOME on :0 then they are running GNOME on :1 too. But it is a separate instance on a separate X display. Many people find it confusing to have an identical desktop windows in a vnc client to their current desktop. It is mentally easier to use a simpler window manager for the vnc one. By default it will set up using "twm" which is a very simple and light weight point and shoot window manager. Which is usually plenty enough since you are already running another window manager on top. The choice of vnc X session window manager is configurable. I like twm for vnc but I know others who use GNOME on one and KDE on the other just so that they look enough different that they can tell them apart easily. The use for a standalone vnc session is often because people are running a non-Unix/GNU non-X window system such as MS-Windows on their desktop. They want to run Unix/GNU graphical tools such as a CAD/EDA program or some such on a server machine. Therefore they log into the server machine with ssh and start up a vnc X server session there. Then connect to it using their desktop (MS-Windows) VNC client. In that very common situation there is no existing desktop session running until they start one. There may be a dozen or more people on each server and each will have a different :NUM display to themselves. Each of them will connect to a different VNC session on the server. This is quite typical of schools and corporate industry. It is rather of a low performance PITA solution but I see people do it every day. The use for bare desktop vnc is the GoToMyPC or LogMeIn model. You own your own desktop. You want to connect to your desktop from elsewhere. In that case you don't want to start up a new :42 X session. In that case you want to connect to the existing :0 session. That is where the GNOME desktop options for "desktop sharing" come into use. Configure GNOME to share the current desktop and you can use vnc to connect to the :0 without needing to start up an additional X session. It will load the x11vnc module into the running X session and expose the root display :0 to the world so that others (perhaps you) can connect to it, see it, and drive it. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: vnc server
If you want to share your existing GNOME 3 desktop session, it's "vino", and you want to run "vino-preferences" to set the password, whether it's read only, etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130417155930.GA31595@debian
Re: vnc server
> > The vncserver and xvncviewer names use the Debian Alternatives > system. You can read more about that here: > > That helps! > > And then people found that starting a server was inconvenient. > Wouldn't it be better to export the current desktop? Instead of > exporting a new, unique and different desktop? It is possible. Clarification. Are you saying that some vnc servers serve up a remote login to a new session, while others simply share an existing gnome session? > > Sorry I know nothing about vino. But I hope sharing the above about > vnc in general was helpful. The package page says that vino is a vnc > server for GNOME 2 and isn't available with GNOME 3. If you are using > > I'm using Gnome 3 on Wheezy and it DOES come with VINO by default. FYI.
Re: vnc server
ChadDavis wrote: > I'm a bit confused about what package is the vnc server that I need to run > in order to remote desktop into my machine. With VNC there are two parts, the client and the server. Normally you start the server first and then connect to it with a client. $ vncserver New 'localhost:1 (rwp)' desktop is localhost:1 Starting applications specified in /home/rwp/.vnc/xstartup Log file is /home/rwp/.vnc/localhost:1.log Then connect to it. It said :1 above so connect to :1. (You can also specify the display to start.) $ xvncviewer :1 Password: ... The vncserver and xvncviewer names use the Debian Alternatives system. You can read more about that here: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAlternatives Those names will always point to the "best" or "manually selected" currently installed vnc client and server. It could be "vnc4". It could be "tightvnc". It could be a different one. Same as: $ vnc4server $ xvnc4viewer Or: $ tightvncserver $ tightxvncviewer At different times different projects leapfrog each other. At one time I liked the performance of tightvnc and preferred it. But recent versions are buggy for me and so currently I recommend vnc4 as best for the most trouble free operation. Historically there will be a lot of documentation about both of those available on the web. And then people found that starting a server was inconvenient. Wouldn't it be better to export the current desktop? Instead of exporting a new, unique and different desktop? It is possible. There have been various techniques. Previously it was needed to load the x11vnc X11 module when starting X and then you could use xvncviewer to connect to the primary desktop instead of starting a new one. GNOME 2 and some others now do this automatically. (I don't know about GNOME 3.) It is disabled by default for security. If you walk through the menus you will find something about desktop sharing where you can enable it. Here is the Debian wiki page with more information and pointers. http://wiki.debian.org/VNCviewer > Installed by default is a "vino" and it says that it is a "VNC > server for Gnome". But when I search about how to set up a vnc > server on the internet, I keep finding vnc4server package referenced > instead. > > Is vino a server? Sorry I know nothing about vino. But I hope sharing the above about vnc in general was helpful. The package page says that vino is a vnc server for GNOME 2 and isn't available with GNOME 3. If you are using GNOME 2 then walk through the menus and turn it on and then connect to it using xvncviewer. If you are using GNOME 3 then I think you are out of luck and would need to do something different. What I have no idea. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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I'm a bit confused about what package is the vnc server that I need to run in order to remote desktop into my machine. Installed by default is a "vino" and it says that it is a "VNC server for Gnome". But when I search about how to set up a vnc server on the internet, I keep finding vnc4server package referenced instead. Is vino a server?
Re: VNC server
Engi Zoltán wrote: > "vncserver :3 -geometry 800x600" Should start a vnc session on display :3. Looks okay to me. > [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup > [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources > xsetroot -solid grey > vncconfig -iconic & > x-term -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" & The above is the unchanged template defaulted into place when starting real vnc for the first time. Okay. Except for this part: > #x-window-manager & > startx & Here the default x-window-manager setting has been commented out. It has been replaced with startx instead. That is the problem. The startx is what is giving this error: > >>Server is already active for display 0 You can't start a second server using startx inside of the current server already started by vnc. To fix that remove the startx line and uncomment the x-window-manager line. Or remove the entire file and let it default again to a known working template. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: VNC server
On 2011.07.10. 18:54, Bob Proulx wrote: Engi Zoltán wrote: I start the vnc server on Debian linux. How did you start it? Please tell us the exact command that you used. The command is next "vncserver :3 -geometry 800x600" I tried connect to server but only get gray screen. Also show us your ~/.vnc/xstartup file. If you are only getting a grey screen then perhaps you have not started up a window manager? Here is xstartup file: #!/bin/sh # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: # unset SESSION_MANAGER # exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources xsetroot -solid grey vncconfig -iconic & x-term -geometry 80x24+10+10 -ls -title "$VNCDESKTOP Desktop" & #x-window-manager & startx & Here is log file: vncext: Listening for VNC connections on port 5903 Port 5903 corresponds to starting up a :3 display. Server is already active for display 0 But here is an error for the :0 display. Something seems mismatched. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e1a0b4d.40...@gmail.com
Re: VNC server
Engi Zoltán wrote: > I start the vnc server on Debian linux. How did you start it? Please tell us the exact command that you used. > I tried connect to server but only get gray screen. Also show us your ~/.vnc/xstartup file. If you are only getting a grey screen then perhaps you have not started up a window manager? > Here is log file: > vncext: Listening for VNC connections on port 5903 Port 5903 corresponds to starting up a :3 display. > Server is already active for display 0 But here is an error for the :0 display. Something seems mismatched. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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I start the vnc server on Debian linux. I tried connect to server but only get gray screen. It seems to be there is problem with "x-term". Here is log file: Xvnc Free Edition 4.1.1 - built Mar 10 2010 21:46:06 Copyright (C) 2002-2005 RealVNC Ltd. See http://www.realvnc.com for information on VNC. Underlying X server release 4030, The XFree86 Project, Inc Sun Jul 10 15:41:08 2011 vncext: VNC extension running! vncext: Listening for VNC connections on port 5903 vncext: Listening for HTTP connections on port 5803 vncext: created VNC server for screen 0 error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/, removing from list! /root/.vnc/xstartup: line 11: x-term: parancs nem található Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0 If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again. Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help. xinit: Server error. Sun Jul 10 15:41:41 2011 Connections: accepted: 0.0.0.0::57778 SConnection: Client needs protocol version 3.8 SConnection: Client requests security type VncAuth(2) Sun Jul 10 15:41:46 2011 VNCSConnST: Server default pixel format depth 16 (16bpp) little-endian rgb565 VNCSConnST: Client pixel format depth 8 (8bpp) rgb max 3,3,3 shift 4,2,0 Sun Jul 10 15:46:20 2011 Connections: closed: 0.0.0.0::57778 (Clean disconnection) SMsgWriter: framebuffer updates 2 SMsgWriter:ZRLE rects 3, bytes 815 SMsgWriter:raw bytes equivalent 480548, compression ratio 589.629448 Sun Jul 10 15:46:31 2011 Connections: accepted: 0.0.0.0::57810 SConnection: Client needs protocol version 3.8 SConnection: Client requests security type VncAuth(2) Sun Jul 10 15:46:36 2011 VNCSConnST: Server default pixel format depth 16 (16bpp) little-endian rgb565 VNCSConnST: Client pixel format depth 8 (8bpp) rgb max 3,3,3 shift 4,2,0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e19afe6.7010...@gmail.com
Problem connecting to VNC server
Hi all! Some time ago I have been using x11vnc and xvncviewer in Debian GNU/Linux Lenny without problems. But today, after connecting to the server, I noticed that after moving the mouse and release it, this is positioned immediately in the upper left corner without giving me time to operate properly with the mouse. I was trying tightvncserver and it does not exhibit this problem, but the idea is to share a session and I have open. In case it helps, I'm noticing in /var/log/Xorg.0.log that there is a line saying "SetGrabKeysState - enabled" after logon in the remote machine and the next two lines after logoff: SetClientVersion: 0 9 SetGrabKeysState - disabled Any idea what could be the problem? Thanks in advance for your reply. Regards, Daniel -- Fingerprint: BFB3 08D6 B4D1 31B2 72B9 29CE 6696 BF1B 14E6 1D37 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux Lenny - Linux user #188.598 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Vnc server
Il 09/05/2010 21:50, Andrew Lapham ha scritto: Hello all. I'm new to debian (2 days) but have been using Linux for a while. Anyway my problem is with Vnc4server. Yesterday I set up my /home/.Vnc/xstartup to include gnome session and I commented terminal emulator. And I remoted in no problem (I forget if I used vnvserver or Vnc4server) Today I turned on the pc and ran the server and all I get is a grey screen and a mouse. I tried vncserver and Vnc4server. Any ideas? (Sorry for the case/spelling errors this was composed on my phone..) I ran into a similar issue some time ago (and found the solution on a vnc mailing list, in case you have further problems). If you closed your vnc session by *logging out*, what happens is that your session (gnome) is no longer active, but vnc is not concerned. The workaround that was suggested to me is to *not* have vncstartup exec the session, but rather launch a session and cleanup afterwards, ie # wrong #exec gnome-session # right gnome-session vncserver -kill $DISPLAY If you grok the shell you'll probably use the trap command to make sure that cleanup is done no matter what, but that's just a detail good luck -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4be7f312$0$1126$4fafb...@reader3.news.tin.it
Re: Vnc server
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 00:56, Andrew Lapham wrote: > Hello all. > > I'm new to debian (2 days) but have been using Linux for a while. Anyway my > problem is with Vnc4server. > > Yesterday I set up my /home/.Vnc/xstartup to include gnome session and I > commented terminal emulator. And I remoted in no problem (I forget if I used > vnvserver or Vnc4server) > > Today I turned on the pc and ran the server and all I get is a grey screen > and a mouse. I tried vncserver and Vnc4server. Any ideas? > > (Sorry for the case/spelling errors this was composed on my phone..) > Post your xstartup
Vnc server
Hello all. I'm new to debian (2 days) but have been using Linux for a while. Anyway my problem is with Vnc4server. Yesterday I set up my /home/.Vnc/xstartup to include gnome session and I commented terminal emulator. And I remoted in no problem (I forget if I used vnvserver or Vnc4server) Today I turned on the pc and ran the server and all I get is a grey screen and a mouse. I tried vncserver and Vnc4server. Any ideas? (Sorry for the case/spelling errors this was composed on my phone..)
Re: VNC Server?
Depo Catcher wrote: > uh, ok. Thanks > > Why didn't aptitude find it? > Because you're not using the version in experimental :) the versions currently in <=sid default to searching on package name only. This changes in the experimental version where the search parameters change. I almost always specify what I'm searching on. For example, search on name: aptitude search ~n"search string" search on description aptitude search ~d"search string" In this case you would have found it by using: aptitude search ~d"unix2dos" I suggest you read through the aptitude documentation. There's a lot of things you can do with it that may not be immediately obvious. Install the doc package, quickly go through it to see some of the possibilities, and then refer bak to it for specifics as needed. You'll get to know what you commonly use fast enough, but knwing what's possible with more advanced usage can come in handy down the road. aptitude search ~n"aptitude-doc" v aptitude-doc- p aptitude-doc-cs - Czech manual for aptitude i aptitude-doc-en - English manual for aptitude p aptitude-doc-fi - Finnish manual for aptitude p aptitude-doc-fr - French manual for aptitude p aptitude-doc-ja - Japanese manual for aptitude I've created a desktop file that points to the command-line reference portion of the manual for when I need it (and I can go to any other part from there as well, that's just the part I refer to the most). file:///usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/en/rn01re01.html You can just create a bookmark within your browser instead. > > Jan Muszynski wrote: >> Depo Catcher wrote: >> >>> ok thanks. That worked. >>> >>> for bonus points, were/how do I install 'dos2unix' and 'unix2dos'... it >>> doesn't come install by default nor does it show up in aptitude >>> >> >> apt-file find dos2unix >> tofrodos: /usr/bin/dos2unix >> >> apt-file find /usr/bin/unix2dos >> tofrodos: /usr/bin/unix2dos >> >> >> #aptitude install tofrodos >> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On Mon,27.Apr.09, 00:19:06, Depo Catcher wrote: > > uh, ok. Thanks > > Why didn't aptitude find it? Because aptitude doesn't search for files in a package, not even if installed. It does search however in name, short description, long description and various (all?) other fields in the package metadata (depends, reverse-depends, ...). Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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uh, ok. Thanks Why didn't aptitude find it? Jan Muszynski wrote: Depo Catcher wrote: ok thanks. That worked. for bonus points, were/how do I install 'dos2unix' and 'unix2dos'... it doesn't come install by default nor does it show up in aptitude apt-file find dos2unix tofrodos: /usr/bin/dos2unix apt-file find /usr/bin/unix2dos tofrodos: /usr/bin/unix2dos #aptitude install tofrodos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Depo Catcher wrote: > > ok thanks. That worked. > > for bonus points, were/how do I install 'dos2unix' and 'unix2dos'... it > doesn't come install by default nor does it show up in aptitude apt-file find dos2unix tofrodos: /usr/bin/dos2unix apt-file find /usr/bin/unix2dos tofrodos: /usr/bin/unix2dos #aptitude install tofrodos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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ok thanks. That worked. for bonus points, were/how do I install 'dos2unix' and 'unix2dos'... it doesn't come install by default nor does it show up in aptitude Magnus Pedersen wrote: Depo Catcher wrote: What's the "linux" way of installing a Tight VNC Server? On windows, I just run the exe; on freebsd I just install for ports and/or packages. Both take under 3 minutes. I try 'apt-get install tightvnc' and it failed, saying there isn't a Debian package for this? .. that is strange. I tried installed from source, but I'd have to go though the messy ordeal of building X from source too so... what is it guys? What's the quickest way to get Tight VNC Server running? On debian testing mag...@pedersen-dell:~$ aptitude search tightvnc p tightvnc-java - TightVNC java applet and command line program p tightvncserver - virtual network computing server software p xtightvncviewer - virtual network computing client software for /Magnus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: VNC Server?
Depo Catcher wrote: What's the "linux" way of installing a Tight VNC Server? On windows, I just run the exe; on freebsd I just install for ports and/or packages. Both take under 3 minutes. I try 'apt-get install tightvnc' and it failed, saying there isn't a Debian package for this? .. that is strange. I tried installed from source, but I'd have to go though the messy ordeal of building X from source too so... what is it guys? What's the quickest way to get Tight VNC Server running? On debian testing mag...@pedersen-dell:~$ aptitude search tightvnc p tightvnc-java - TightVNC java applet and command line program p tightvncserver - virtual network computing server software p xtightvncviewer - virtual network computing client software for /Magnus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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What's the "linux" way of installing a Tight VNC Server? On windows, I just run the exe; on freebsd I just install for ports and/or packages. Both take under 3 minutes. I try 'apt-get install tightvnc' and it failed, saying there isn't a Debian package for this? .. that is strange. I tried installed from source, but I'd have to go though the messy ordeal of building X from source too so... what is it guys? What's the quickest way to get Tight VNC Server running? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm having a very strange that never spent hence. VNC installed on a Linux server Debian (vncserver) that I only authentic all the right username and password, but when you type the characters are totally different, and both servers are with the keymap in the same pattern. I do not idea of what is, someone has some idea? - -- Márcio Luciano Donada Aurora Alimentos - Cooperativa Central Oeste Catarinense Departamento de T.I. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIREXvbjyCr4Ixg0wRAiWaAJ49gUauK7C4LKUF+WC6dvMp/2y5EACfZNy8 WNy2UZKsyJRrQqkifmR+Yzg= =B/3v -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anyother VNC server?
Greetings all, I am wondering if there are more VNC software other than TightVNC and RealVNC,seems that the TightVNC is not developing any more (with bugs still). I do not knowwhether there are sill some VNC apps (no more found with apt-cache search)? thx! Deephay
Re: VNC server desktop environment?
On Mon, Nov 22, 2004 at 12:23:42PM -0600, Eric Scott wrote: >On Monday 22 November 2004 10:18 am, Stephen Patterson wrote: >> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:00:18 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: >> > it might be reading ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession. Put the KDE window >> > manager binary path into that. I can'tremember what it's called, but >> > for another window manager (say, pwm) you'd have >> > /usr/bin/pwm >> >> VNC reads ~/.vnc/xstartup IIRC > >When I start the VNC server it says it's "starting applications >specified in /etc/X11/Xsession" >I don't have a ~/.vnc/xstartup file or whatever... if I create one is >VNC likely to still read from it? I think it depends on what VNC server you have installed. I recently switched from vncserver to vnc4server, and it seems it then switched from using /etc/X11/Xsession (and ~/.Xsession) to ~/.vnc/xstartup. The default ~/.vnc/xstartup uses x-window-manager, and you can change that using update-alternatives. Otherwise just edit ~/.vnc/xstartup yourself to get it to start whatever window environment you want. /M -- Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://magnus.therning.org/ Si hoc non legere potes tu asinus es. (If you can't read this you are an ass.) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: VNC server desktop environment?
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:23:42 -0600, Eric Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I start the VNC server it says it's "starting applications specified > in /etc/X11/Xsession" > I don't have a ~/.vnc/xstartup file or whatever... if I create one is VNC > likely to still read from it? > Thanx, > ES Surely it is just as easy to try it as to type out an email with the question? I don't have VNC handy and I don't feel like installing it to check; but my guess, based on other app behaviour, is 'yes'. -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, it might be reading ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession. Put the KDE window manager binary path into that. I can'tremember what it's called, but for another window manager (say, pwm) you'd have /usr/bin/pwm ...in one of those files. It actually reads ~/.vnc/xstartup Put "startkde &" in the last line If there are any lines which call an xterm, remove them. HTH, vikas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VNC server desktop environment?
On Monday 22 November 2004 10:30 am, Kent West wrote: > Eric Scott wrote: > >On Sunday 21 November 2004 11:23 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > >>On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 22:52 -0600, Eric Scott wrote: > >>[snip] > >> > >>>I had a similar problem under Mandrake Linux 9.1 once, and peeps just > >>>told me > >> > >>The sound that a baby chicken makes, told you to upgrade to Mdk 9.2 > >>That truly is amazing. Do you have video? > > > >Anyway, what do you mean "do I have video?" > > He was trying to be funny. You said that "peeps" had told you ...; he > responded that he'd like to see a film clip (video) of baby chicks > telling you what to do. In his language, chicks peep (whereas full-grown > chickens cackle, and roosters crow. And I just ramble ). > > -- > Kent GUESS WHAT! chicks "peep" in my language too!!! Small world, ain't it? *ahem* --END OF STRING-- -- Sarki Gwaggo/Little Dude/Little Bear/Shorty/Dory/Sigma Dude/SigmaChi/Scotchz/Doorhelp2/Pigme/Erikimo/Neilleo/Scotti A.K.A Eric Registered Linux user #: 366862 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VNC server desktop environment?
On Monday 22 November 2004 10:18 am, Stephen Patterson wrote: > On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:00:18 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > > it might be reading ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession. Put the KDE window > > manager binary path into that. I can'tremember what it's called, but > > for another window manager (say, pwm) you'd have > > /usr/bin/pwm > > VNC reads ~/.vnc/xstartup IIRC When I start the VNC server it says it's "starting applications specified in /etc/X11/Xsession" I don't have a ~/.vnc/xstartup file or whatever... if I create one is VNC likely to still read from it? Thanx, ES -- Sarki Gwaggo/Little Dude/Little Bear/Shorty/Dory/Sigma Dude/SigmaChi/Scotchz/Doorhelp2/Pigme/Erikimo/Neilleo/Scotti A.K.A Eric Registered Linux user #: 366862 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VNC server desktop environment?
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 13:00:18 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > it might be reading ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession. Put the KDE window > manager binary path into that. I can'tremember what it's called, but > for another window manager (say, pwm) you'd have > /usr/bin/pwm VNC reads ~/.vnc/xstartup IIRC -- Stephen Patterson http://patter.mine.nu/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] remove SPAM to reply Linux Counter No: 142831 GPG Public key: 252B8B37 Caution: breathing may be hazardous to your health. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VNC server desktop environment?
Eric Scott wrote: On Sunday 21 November 2004 11:23 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 22:52 -0600, Eric Scott wrote: [snip] I had a similar problem under Mandrake Linux 9.1 once, and peeps just told me The sound that a baby chicken makes, told you to upgrade to Mdk 9.2 That truly is amazing. Do you have video? Anyway, what do you mean "do I have video?" He was trying to be funny. You said that "peeps" had told you ...; he responded that he'd like to see a film clip (video) of baby chicks telling you what to do. In his language, chicks peep (whereas full-grown chickens cackle, and roosters crow. And I just ramble ). -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VNC server desktop environment?
On Sunday 21 November 2004 11:23 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 22:52 -0600, Eric Scott wrote: > [snip] > > > I had a similar problem under Mandrake Linux 9.1 once, and peeps just > > told me > > The sound that a baby chicken makes, told you to upgrade to Mdk 9.2 > That truly is amazing. Do you have video? > > > "It's a bug, upgrade to 9.2." > >Thanxoz, > > Youxoz're welcomxoz. *ahem,* I get the point, I'll cut down on the instant-message lingo ;-). Anyway, what do you mean "do I have video?" Cheers, SigmaChi -- Sarki Gwaggo/Little Dude/Little Bear/Shorty/Dory/Sigma Dude/SigmaChi/Scotchz/Doorhelp2/Pigme/Erikimo/Neilleo/Scotti A.K.A Eric Registered Linux user #: 366862 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VNC server desktop environment?
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 22:52:02 -0600, Eric Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yo; > Just installed Sarge for the first time. I got VNC server up and running, and > accessed it from my near-by Mac (Good ol' Mac OS 8.1... haven't downloaded > Sarge PPC yet ;-) ). The X server pops up with the "X" cursor... but no > window manager. How do I get it to start KDE when I start up a VNC server? it might be reading ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession. Put the KDE window manager binary path into that. I can'tremember what it's called, but for another window manager (say, pwm) you'd have /usr/bin/pwm ...in one of those files. -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VNC server desktop environment?
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 11:39:34PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 00:30 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 11:23:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 22:52 -0600, Eric Scott wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > I had a similar problem under Mandrake Linux 9.1 once, and peeps just > > > > told me > > > > > > The sound that a baby chicken makes, told you to upgrade to Mdk 9.2 > > > That truly is amazing. Do you have video? > > > > Have you seen goats.com? Now there are some amazing chickens! > > goats.com or goatse.cx? > will have to investigate the events around .cx, I was referring to the evil chickens on goats.com. -Kev -- counter.li.org #238656 -- goto counter.li.org and be counted! (__) (oo) /--\/ / ||| * /\---/\ ~~ ~~ "Have you mooed today?"... signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: VNC server desktop environment?
On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 00:30 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 11:23:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 22:52 -0600, Eric Scott wrote: > > [snip] > > > I had a similar problem under Mandrake Linux 9.1 once, and peeps just > > > told me > > > > The sound that a baby chicken makes, told you to upgrade to Mdk 9.2 > > That truly is amazing. Do you have video? > > Have you seen goats.com? Now there are some amazing chickens! goats.com or goatse.cx? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. "I went home with a waitress the way I always do. How was I to know she was with the Russians, too?" signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: VNC server desktop environment?
On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 11:23:41PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 22:52 -0600, Eric Scott wrote: > [snip] > > I had a similar problem under Mandrake Linux 9.1 once, and peeps just told > > me > > The sound that a baby chicken makes, told you to upgrade to Mdk 9.2 > That truly is amazing. Do you have video? Have you seen goats.com? Now there are some amazing chickens! -Kev -- counter.li.org #238656 -- goto counter.li.org and be counted! (__) (oo) /--\/ / ||| * /\---/\ ~~ ~~ "Have you mooed today?"... signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: VNC server desktop environment?
On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 22:52 -0600, Eric Scott wrote: [snip] > I had a similar problem under Mandrake Linux 9.1 once, and peeps just told me The sound that a baby chicken makes, told you to upgrade to Mdk 9.2 That truly is amazing. Do you have video? > "It's a bug, upgrade to 9.2." >Thanxoz, Youxoz're welcomxoz. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail. "What has a tiny brain, a big mouth, and an opinion nobody cares about? You!" from Murphy Brown signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
VNC server desktop environment?
Yo; Just installed Sarge for the first time. I got VNC server up and running, and accessed it from my near-by Mac (Good ol' Mac OS 8.1... haven't downloaded Sarge PPC yet ;-) ). The X server pops up with the "X" cursor... but no window manager. How do I get it to start KDE when I start up a VNC server? I had a similar problem under Mandrake Linux 9.1 once, and peeps just told me "It's a bug, upgrade to 9.2." Thanxoz, SigmaChi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disabling artsd on multi-user VNC server
Hi, I have several users running KDE desktops through VNC on one of my servers. The only problem, is that every user starts artsd and a message comes up saying it couldn't initialize the sound system. I searched for "arts|audio|sound" in /etc/kde3 but didn't find anything promising. How do I keep the artsd package installed (I want all KDE packages, (I just don't have sound on the server), and disable the automatic startup of it for each user centrally? Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VNC server not accepting keyboard input
not entirely debian related but the system is based on debian(at least the kernel is last I checked..) I'm talkin about the ThinkNIC(www.thinknic.com) a few months ago I seriously hacked up my grandpa's NIC, including stuff like a SSH server and VNC server incase I need to get in to do something which I did tonight. but for some reason it did not take my keyboard input. mouse input worked fine, but it was a real bitch to work with by copy/pasting text to the system to get it workin. I could copy/paste directly to xterm(using middle mouse) but opera didn't take anything. really weird(I also could not type to the xterm). I have seen this before about 5 years ago when trying to connect from a x86 machine to an IRIX machine, but thought it had to do with keyboard map or something, these are both debian-based systems on x86 ..I coulda swore i tested it before I shipped it and it worked..but tonight it did not.. the client is debian 3.0r1 with xvncviewer 3.3.3r2-20. I don't think the remote system is running tightvnc, but xvncviewer seems to run tightvnc, though I'd be suprised if that had anything to do with it. anyone seen this before? guess I should be glad it worked at all. need to use it more often, really tough trying to sit through an hour and a half tryin to explain what to click on over the phone. thanks nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setting up VNC server on Linux
On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:20:51PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:34:30PM -0600, Cameron Matheson ([EMAIL > PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Oh yeah, is ssh going to be fixed anytime soon? > > According to posts, I believe so. > > BTW, you shouldn't run VNC unsecured on an open network. You're going > to want SSH no matter what. so, who's written the newbiedoc-intro on "how to connect using ssh and then piggyback anything-you-fancy on top of that" including X, ftp, time, and (horrors!) telnet...? -- don't visit this page. it's bad for you. take my expert word for it. http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: setting up VNC server on Linux
One option would be to run the Xvnc server, and then connect locally using the SVGAlib client. That would allow you to avoid running another X server in addition to Xvnc. I've never tried it myself, but it seems like it might work, if you don't mind using SVGAlib. -Chris On Saturday 14 April 2001 10:16, Rob Mahurin wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 01:16:32AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > I've never been able to figure out how to get the vncserver to act like > > a regular X server, serving both the local display and the remote > > display. Instead, I've only been able to get the regular X server to > > serve the local display, and then the vncserver runs alongside it on > > (usually) the next higher-numbered display, but you don't "see" anything > > locally; then you connect from the remote machine to the vnc's display > > number and see a fresh clean X display, but not the one you see when > > you're sitting in front of the local machine. > > Yup, that's right. The manpage says: > >vncserver is a wraper script for Xvnc, the free X server >for Virtual Network Computing (VNC). It provides all capa- >bilities of a standard X server, but does not connect to a >display for itself. You need a vncviewer to view and con- >trol the applications that run on the server. > > VNC's not for local use (although you can use it locally), and so it > doesn't concern itself with the nitty gritty of telling video cards > how to do things. > > I tried for an embarassingly long time to do what you're describing > before I figured this out, so you can surrender now. > > Rob -- Entropy. It's what's for dinner.
Re: setting up VNC server on Linux
On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 01:16:32AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > I've never been able to figure out how to get the vncserver to act like > a regular X server, serving both the local display and the remote > display. Instead, I've only been able to get the regular X server to > serve the local display, and then the vncserver runs alongside it on > (usually) the next higher-numbered display, but you don't "see" anything > locally; then you connect from the remote machine to the vnc's display > number and see a fresh clean X display, but not the one you see when > you're sitting in front of the local machine. Yup, that's right. The manpage says: vncserver is a wraper script for Xvnc, the free X server for Virtual Network Computing (VNC). It provides all capa- bilities of a standard X server, but does not connect to a display for itself. You need a vncviewer to view and con- trol the applications that run on the server. VNC's not for local use (although you can use it locally), and so it doesn't concern itself with the nitty gritty of telling video cards how to do things. I tried for an embarassingly long time to do what you're describing before I figured this out, so you can surrender now. Rob -- Last guys don't finish nice. -- Stanley Kelley, on the cult of victory at all costs
Re: setting up VNC server on Linux
Please set your mailer to wrap lines at 72 colums. on Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:34:30PM -0600, Cameron Matheson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hey, > > I need to be able to control my friends computer from mine. Telnet > doesn't work, and ssh is broken, so I thought VNC would be rad. I am > to the point where I can use vncviewer from my Linux to control my > windoze box, but that doesn't do much for me. > If I run vncserver on my computer, Which one. You've got a GNU/Linux box and a Legacy MS Windows box. > and then try to connect to myself w/ 'xvncviewer localhost', it tells > me "unable to connect to host". You do have to specify a display. E.g.: $ xvncviewer localhost:2 The display is echoed when you launch xvncserver. > What do I need to do to fix this? > > Oh yeah, is ssh going to be fixed anytime soon? According to posts, I believe so. BTW, you shouldn't run VNC unsecured on an open network. You're going to want SSH no matter what. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpFCSgr2GsPM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: setting up VNC server on Linux
Cameron Matheson wrote: Hey, I need to be able to control my friends computer from mine. Telnet doesn't work, and ssh is broken, so I thought VNC would be rad. I am to the point where I can use vncviewer from my Linux to control my windoze box, but that doesn't do much for me. If I run vncserver on my computer, and then try to connect to myself w/ 'xvncviewer localhost', it tells me "unable to connect to host". What do I need to do to fix this? You might try 'xvncviewer localhost:[display number where vncserver is running]'. I've never been able to figure out how to get the vncserver to act like a regular X server, serving both the local display and the remote display. Instead, I've only been able to get the regular X server to serve the local display, and then the vncserver runs alongside it on (usually) the next higher-numbered display, but you don't "see" anything locally; then you connect from the remote machine to the vnc's display number and see a fresh clean X display, but not the one you see when you're sitting in front of the local machine. Oh yeah, is ssh going to be fixed anytime soon? I hope so. Thanks, Cameron Matheson _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
setting up VNC server on Linux
Hey, I need to be able to control my friends computer from mine. Telnet doesn't work, and ssh is broken, so I thought VNC would be rad. I am to the point where I can use vncviewer from my Linux to control my windoze box, but that doesn't do much for me. If I run vncserver on my computer, and then try to connect to myself w/ 'xvncviewer localhost', it tells me "unable to connect to host". What do I need to do to fix this? Oh yeah, is ssh going to be fixed anytime soon? Thanks, Cameron Matheson _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: vnc problem: unable to connect to vnc server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > Thank you Phil, that was it!. Now, one more question, how do I make the > connection "through an ssh tunnel" (I can make a "terminal" ssh connection - > via putty - I just don't know how to use ssh to connect to the vnc > server). Thanks again If you're going to use putty to ssh to the Linux box I think you're out of luck - putty doesn't know how to do TCP forwarding (needed for X11 forwarding), and the author isn't planning on implementing that functionality (according to the author's wishlist web page at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/wishlist.html). SecureCRT 3.x *does* do TCP forwarding, however, but it's payware. - -- - -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG fingerprint: 9BF9 D84C 37D0 4FA7 1F2D 7E5E FD94 D264 50DE 1CFC GPG key id: 50DE1CFC GPG public key: http://tux.creighton.edu/~pbrutsch/gpg-public-key.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6MSul/ZTSZFDeHPwRAtH5AKCLjBJ+LsPepcQttk+NU9tvlmfSQACg0DnB TafDIcHQhV5yop0OMIoPnTw= =qAfg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: vnc problem: unable to connect to vnc server
Phil Brutsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > > > I am trying, unsuccessfully, to make a VNC connection from Windows98 > > (office of > > my client) to my woody machine. > > The text you see in ~/.vnc/passwd is the encrypted form of the password > you assigned the connection - something is very wrong if you can enter the > encrypted password and gain access to the X11 session. > > Try running vncpasswd to re-assign your password. > Thank you Phil, that was it!. Now, one more question, how do I make the connection "through an ssh tunnel" (I can make a "terminal" ssh connection - via putty - I just don't know how to use ssh to connect to the vnc server). Thanks again Peter -- Giulio Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vnc problem: unable to connect to vnc server
Giulio Morgan wrote: > Any thoughts will be much appreciated. Also, one trivial question, what is the > easiest way for me to determine my ip address. If you install the ipmasq package it has a very nice script called ipofif which does some regexp stuff to the output of ifconfig and leaves you with your ip address(es). If you don't really want ipmasq installed, you could always install the package, copy ipofif someplace else then remove the package... HTH, Gareth -- Gareth Bowker | [EMAIL PROTECTED] PhD Research Student | http://users.aber.ac.uk/tgb96/ Space Robotics Team | Office: (01970) 621528 University of Wales, Aberystwyth | Mobile: (07971) 219986
Re: vnc problem: unable to connect to vnc server
Pending further investigation, we now allege that Giulio Morgan wrote: > > I am trying, unsuccessfully, to make a VNC connection from Windows98 (office > of > my client) to my woody machine. Perhaps I am misunderstanding something about > the usage of VNC, and if anyone could help, I would really appreciate it. > > I start the vncserver by > $ vncserver :4, > then check for my password in ~/.vnc/passwd. I discover it to be > \111A\222\333P\444L\555, > > I then launch vncviewer from the windows machine, and am prompted for the > address I wish to establish a connection to, I type in "my dynamic ip > address:4", and I am then prompted for "session password", and type > \111A\222\333P\444L\555, > and I get a notification: VNC authentication failed! The password that is stored in ~/.vnc/passwd is encrypted. Use vncpasswd to set or change it.
Re: vnc problem: unable to connect to vnc server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > I am trying, unsuccessfully, to make a VNC connection from Windows98 (office > of > my client) to my woody machine. Perhaps I am misunderstanding something about > the usage of VNC, and if anyone could help, I would really appreciate it. > > I start the vncserver by > $ vncserver :4, > then check for my password in ~/.vnc/passwd. I discover it to be > \111A\222\333P\444L\555, > > I then launch vncviewer from the windows machine, and am prompted for the > address I wish to establish a connection to, I type in "my dynamic ip > address:4", and I am then prompted for "session password", and type > \111A\222\333P\444L\555, > and I get a notification: VNC authentication failed! The text you see in ~/.vnc/passwd is the encrypted form of the password you assigned the connection - something is very wrong if you can enter the encrypted password and gain access to the X11 session. Try running vncpasswd to re-assign your password. [snip] > 08/12/00 10:42:15 rfbAuthProcessClientMessage: authentication failed from > 205.xxx.xx.xxx Umm... wrong password? [snip] > Any thoughts will be much appreciated. Also, one trivial question, what is the > easiest way for me to determine my ip address. Currently, I check the ppp log > which identifies the address of the local and remote machines when a connetion > is established. This involves "su"ing, opening and scanning the log, looking > for a smarter way. Sorry for the dumb question. Several ways: * /sbin/ifconfig ppp0 * add yourself to the adm group so that you can read many of the files under /var/log with impunity - -- - -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG fingerprint: 9BF9 D84C 37D0 4FA7 1F2D 7E5E FD94 D264 50DE 1CFC GPG key id: 50DE1CFC GPG public key: http://tux.creighton.edu/~pbrutsch/gpg-public-key.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6MRhX/ZTSZFDeHPwRAmgbAJ0V1r6yThJz9CxiL1KYDOqOTY7+bQCcCf/i 73KksTPW8GNJefC4vrrlPP4= =d48f -END PGP SIGNATURE-
vnc problem: unable to connect to vnc server
I am trying, unsuccessfully, to make a VNC connection from Windows98 (office of my client) to my woody machine. Perhaps I am misunderstanding something about the usage of VNC, and if anyone could help, I would really appreciate it. I start the vncserver by $ vncserver :4, then check for my password in ~/.vnc/passwd. I discover it to be \111A\222\333P\444L\555, I then launch vncviewer from the windows machine, and am prompted for the address I wish to establish a connection to, I type in "my dynamic ip address:4", and I am then prompted for "session password", and type \111A\222\333P\444L\555, and I get a notification: VNC authentication failed! Following is the vnc log for this session, and I am unable to decipher what I am doing incorrectly, and, as mentioned, need help 08/12/00 10:39:35 Xvnc version 3.3.3r2 08/12/00 10:39:35 Copyright (C) AT&T Laboratories Cambridge. 08/12/00 10:39:35 All Rights Reserved. 08/12/00 10:39:35 See http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc for information on VNC 08/12/00 10:39:35 Desktop name 'X' (pieno:4) 08/12/00 10:39:35 Protocol version supported 3.3 08/12/00 10:39:35 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 5904 08/12/00 10:39:35 Listening for HTTP connections on TCP port 5804 08/12/00 10:39:35 URL http://pieno:5804 08/12/00 10:41:17 Got connection from client 205.xxx.xx.xxx 08/12/00 10:41:18 Protocol version 3.3 08/12/00 10:42:15 rfbAuthProcessClientMessage: authentication failed from 205.xxx.xx.xxx 08/12/00 10:42:15 Client 205.xxx.xx.xxx gone 08/12/00 10:42:15 Statistics: 08/12/00 10:42:15 framebuffer updates 0, rectangles 0, bytes 0 Any thoughts will be much appreciated. Also, one trivial question, what is the easiest way for me to determine my ip address. Currently, I check the ppp log which identifies the address of the local and remote machines when a connetion is established. This involves "su"ing, opening and scanning the log, looking for a smarter way. Sorry for the dumb question. Thanks very much, -- Giulio Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
