Re: [DEB-USER] Re: Versions by Debian release
On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 07:45:42PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 12:03:28AM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: Now the question is: If I could do this, then why haven't we backported X (version 4.3) to stable? If you had googled, you would have found apt-get.org, which has sources for backported XF86. Thanks for the tip; I wouldn't have known what to google for. I've heard of repositories of non-Debian-blessed packages, but I couldn't find any links to them on the Debian site. But again, the question remains unanswered. Why won't _Debian_ rev the version number for packages in stable after packages have been tested? Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Versions by Debian release
On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 12:03:28AM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: I had a problem with X that I posted earlier this week to this list. I didn't receive any replies, and I had a feeling that the only answer was going to be upgrading xserver-xfree86 from the version I was running under stable. I did an apt-get update and apt-get --dry-run install xserver-xfree86. From the output, it looked like this would break a few things, which I didn't want. (I recently went from testing to stable in order to be able to run KDE.) So I went to xfree86.org and downloaded the latest source. I compiled and installed. This fixed my X problem, and didn't break anything under stable. Now the question is: If I could do this, then why haven't we backported X (version 4.3) to stable? I suspect the answer is that versions of packages under stable are never changed. My question is: Why is this? If we can increment the package versions in stable without breaking things, why don't we? Why are package versions inviolate? Every few months, we put out revisions to stable anyway. Paul This is an absolutely unofficial answer to the question as to why not upgrade within stable: The very fact that the upgrade solved your problem indicates that it is significantly different from the current version in stable. It might very well break something in some other persons Debian box. That person would rightly complain that Debian stable is not really stable. Change is not always good. In a stable shop, every change must be tested before it is accepted, regardless of the reputation of the Debian organization. I, personally, am not capable of backporting, but if you want to learn, you could contribute a backport of X, and go on to contribute backports of other software that you find useful. As a backport, it would be available to others to use if they wish, but it would not upset the lives who have stable systems working to their satisfaction. These people are usually only interested in upgrades that are security hole fixes. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Versions by Debian release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 12:03:28AM -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: Now the question is: If I could do this, then why haven't we backported X (version 4.3) to stable? If you had googled, you would have found apt-get.org, which has sources for backported XF86. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/667mUzgNqloQMwcRAifyAJ4rxkh6511Q0E7zzy/iz2YDNIl4+ACdGvy8 OmzIwRPUqWUzzUis+h3I/s8= =3an/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Versions by Debian release
I had a problem with X that I posted earlier this week to this list. I didn't receive any replies, and I had a feeling that the only answer was going to be upgrading xserver-xfree86 from the version I was running under stable. I did an apt-get update and apt-get --dry-run install xserver-xfree86. From the output, it looked like this would break a few things, which I didn't want. (I recently went from testing to stable in order to be able to run KDE.) So I went to xfree86.org and downloaded the latest source. I compiled and installed. This fixed my X problem, and didn't break anything under stable. Now the question is: If I could do this, then why haven't we backported X (version 4.3) to stable? I suspect the answer is that versions of packages under stable are never changed. My question is: Why is this? If we can increment the package versions in stable without breaking things, why don't we? Why are package versions inviolate? Every few months, we put out revisions to stable anyway. Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
