Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-09 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:

  where did you extract from any part of my post to the list that i welcome
  replies to my address? post it to the list, or not at all. unless someone
  indicates that they want you to cc: to their address, have some
  manners--don't do it. especially, now that you know that i do not want you 
  to
  cc: to may address, don't do it again.

 How's this you fucking bitch?

Both of you, stop being so rude.  Ben, if you don't want private email,
either put a disclaimer on your mail or don't subscribe to lists.

-- 
Baloo



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-09 Thread Brian Nelson
Paul 'Baloo' Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
 
   where did you extract from any part of my post to the list that i welcome
   replies to my address? post it to the list, or not at all. unless someone
   indicates that they want you to cc: to their address, have some
   manners--don't do it. especially, now that you know that i do not want 
   you to
   cc: to may address, don't do it again.
 
  How's this you fucking bitch?
 
 Both of you, stop being so rude.  Ben, if you don't want private email,
 either put a disclaimer on your mail or don't subscribe to lists.

No, you use a Mail-Copies-To: never or Mail-Copies-To: nobody header
and then any halfway decent mail client will honor that.  If it doesn't,
then it shouldn't be used to reply to mailing lists.

-- 
Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-09 Thread ben
On Saturday 09 February 2002 11:45 am, Brian Nelson wrote:
 Paul 'Baloo' Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
where did you extract from any part of my post to the list that i
welcome replies to my address? post it to the list, or not at all.
unless someone indicates that they want you to cc: to their address,
have some manners--don't do it. especially, now that you know that i
do not want you to cc: to may address, don't do it again.
  
   How's this you fucking bitch?
 
  Both of you, stop being so rude.  Ben, if you don't want private email,
  either put a disclaimer on your mail or don't subscribe to lists.

 No, you use a Mail-Copies-To: never or Mail-Copies-To: nobody header
 and then any halfway decent mail client will honor that.  If it doesn't,
 then it shouldn't be used to reply to mailing lists.

alright. in order to close this, let me explain the circumstances around it. 
normally, if someone responds to me offlist, whether by cc'ing a list 
response or otherwise, if i'm willing to carry on the discussion off list, i 
do. if i'm not, i generally send a polite response asking them to keep it on 
the list and not cc my address. given the nature of the communication above 
with mr. gaddis, the response he got was, admittedly, not as polite as usual, 
and was an indulgence on my part. however, that response was sent to his 
private address in response to a reply sent to mine. i did not post it to the 
list as, to my mind, it had, at least until gaddis posted it here, nothing to 
do with the business of the list. i hope that's clear to those who've taken 
the time to offer solutions as to how i should deal with cc'ed list postings. 
to give gaddis credit, he did honor the request, and hasn't cc'ed me since 
then. as for what i should do with headers or disclaimers, i think that the 
previous method of a polite response requesting not to be cc'ed actually 
works, since, on occasion, it's beneficial to take a discussion offlist.

thanks for the helpful suggestions.



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-08 Thread Jeremy Gaddis
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, csj wrote:

 On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 21:06:52 -0500
 Jeremy Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Gary,
 
  I also run Free Agent, though just for the newsgroups.
  My MUA of choice is Outlook (no flames please, I'm tired
  of them) and I have actually never had any problems with
  it.  I do virus scanning on the mail gateway, before it
  even gets to reaching Outlook and by disabling a majority
  of attachments (.doc, .vbs, etc.) it isn't too much to
  worry about.

 Wouldn't it be nicer if you didn't have to scan email? Email viruses
 shouldn't exist in the first place. They're a totally unnecessary evil
 (unlike trojan horses and boot-sector viruses),

Sure.

And wouldn't it be nice if none of us had to lock our
doors, put bars over our windows, or install burglar
alarms on our homes?  In a perfect world...

This isn't a perfect world.  You are obviously content
with your mail setup, I'm content with mine.

Deal with it.

j.

--
Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-08 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:

 And wouldn't it be nice if none of us had to lock our
 doors, put bars over our windows, or install burglar
 alarms on our homes?  In a perfect world...

I live in a rough part of Portland and I never lock the doors or the car
(and thanks to my roommate loosing my car keys at @Home Beaverton on his
last day of work before starting a new job, I had to remove the ignition
lock, not a pretty sight.  It starts with a screwdriver.  But then
again, who's going to steal a 1984 Buick Skylark with a YARD DEBRIS ONLY
recycling can sticker, Friends don't let friends use AOL bumpersticker
and metric instrumentation and 219,000 kilometers on it in Oregon?)

Oh yeah, don't move to Oregon.  Portland's full and we have millitant
rednecks, in central/eastern Oregon, its always dark and raining, and
traffic's so bad public transit will get you anywhere faster than
driving usually.  8:oP

-- 
Baloo



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-08 Thread ben
On Friday 08 February 2002 06:33 am, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
 On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
  And wouldn't it be nice if none of us had to lock our
  doors, put bars over our windows, or install burglar
  alarms on our homes?  In a perfect world...

 I live in a rough part of Portland and I never lock the doors or the car
 (and thanks to my roommate loosing my car keys at @Home Beaverton on his
 last day of work before starting a new job, I had to remove the ignition
 lock, not a pretty sight.  It starts with a screwdriver.  But then
 again, who's going to steal a 1984 Buick Skylark with a YARD DEBRIS ONLY
 recycling can sticker, Friends don't let friends use AOL bumpersticker
 and metric instrumentation and 219,000 kilometers on it in Oregon?)

 Oh yeah, don't move to Oregon.  Portland's full and we have millitant
 rednecks, in central/eastern Oregon, its always dark and raining, and
 traffic's so bad public transit will get you anywhere faster than
 driving usually.  8:oP

no wonder portland's full; it sounds perfect. btw, living in fear is a common 
side effect of using all windon't apps. i mean, let's be fair; he's not just 
wrong about the mailer.



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-08 Thread jeremy
Quoting ben [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Friday 08 February 2002 06:33 am, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
  On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
   And wouldn't it be nice if none of us had to lock our
   doors, put bars over our windows, or install burglar
   alarms on our homes?  In a perfect world...
 
  I live in a rough part of Portland and I never lock the doors or the
 car
  (and thanks to my roommate loosing my car keys at @Home Beaverton on
 his
  last day of work before starting a new job, I had to remove the
 ignition
  lock, not a pretty sight.  It starts with a screwdriver.  But then
  again, who's going to steal a 1984 Buick Skylark with a YARD DEBRIS
 ONLY
  recycling can sticker, Friends don't let friends use AOL
 bumpersticker
  and metric instrumentation and 219,000 kilometers on it in Oregon?)
 
  Oh yeah, don't move to Oregon.  Portland's full and we have
 millitant
  rednecks, in central/eastern Oregon, its always dark and raining,
 and
  traffic's so bad public transit will get you anywhere faster than
  driving usually.  8:oP
 
 no wonder portland's full; it sounds perfect. btw, living in fear is a
 common 
 side effect of using all windon't apps. i mean, let's be fair; he's not
 just 
 wrong about the mailer.

Excuse me?  Living in fear?  Fear of what?  I'm not in fear of
anything regarding my Windows machines.

j.

--
Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-08 Thread csj
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 01:07:52 -0500 (EST)
Jeremy Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, csj wrote:
  On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 21:06:52 -0500
  Jeremy Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
  Wouldn't it be nicer if you didn't have to scan email? Email viruses
  shouldn't exist in the first place. They're a totally unnecessary evil
  (unlike trojan horses and boot-sector viruses),
 
 Sure.
 
 And wouldn't it be nice if none of us had to lock our
 doors, put bars over our windows, or install burglar
 alarms on our homes?  In a perfect world...
 
 This isn't a perfect world.  You are obviously content
 with your mail setup, I'm content with mine.
 
 Deal with it.

I've dealt with it.

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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-08 Thread Jeremy Gaddis
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, ben wrote:

 where did you extract from any part of my post to the list that i welcome
 replies to my address? post it to the list, or not at all. unless someone
 indicates that they want you to cc: to their address, have some
 manners--don't do it. especially, now that you know that i do not want you to
 cc: to may address, don't do it again.

How's this you fucking bitch?

j.

--
Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-08 Thread ben
On Friday 08 February 2002 04:07 pm, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
 On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, ben wrote:
  where did you extract from any part of my post to the list that i welcome
  replies to my address? post it to the list, or not at all. unless someone
  indicates that they want you to cc: to their address, have some
  manners--don't do it. especially, now that you know that i do not want
  you to cc: to may address, don't do it again.

 How's this you fucking bitch?

 j.

might be time to get back on the meds, gladys



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-07 Thread dman
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 03:32:59AM +0800, csj wrote:
| On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 21:06:52 -0500
| Jeremy Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 
|  Gary,
|  
|  I also run Free Agent, though just for the newsgroups.
|  My MUA of choice is Outlook (no flames please, I'm tired
|  of them) and I have actually never had any problems with
|  it.  I do virus scanning on the mail gateway, before it
|  even gets to reaching Outlook and by disabling a majority
|  of attachments (.doc, .vbs, etc.) it isn't too much to
|  worry about.
| 
| Wouldn't it be nicer if you didn't have to scan email? Email viruses
| shouldn't exist in the first place. They're a totally unnecessary evil

Hear, hear.

| (unlike trojan horses and boot-sector viruses),

Are lilo and grub names of boot-sector virii? ;-)

-D

-- 

In the way of righteousness there is life;
along that path is immortality.
Proverbs 12:28



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-06 Thread csj
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 21:06:52 -0500
Jeremy Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gary,
 
 I also run Free Agent, though just for the newsgroups.
 My MUA of choice is Outlook (no flames please, I'm tired
 of them) and I have actually never had any problems with
 it.  I do virus scanning on the mail gateway, before it
 even gets to reaching Outlook and by disabling a majority
 of attachments (.doc, .vbs, etc.) it isn't too much to
 worry about.

Wouldn't it be nicer if you didn't have to scan email? Email viruses
shouldn't exist in the first place. They're a totally unnecessary evil
(unlike trojan horses and boot-sector viruses),

-- 
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support a manned mission to Mars!
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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-05 Thread Gary Turner
On Fri, 01 Feb 2002 09:18:44 +0100, Chris Mueller wrote:

At 00:11 -0500 01.02.2002, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:
Are you saying that when I decide to read the debian-* lists
I'm subscribed to, I should close Outlook,
 ...

For your own advantage
you should close Outlook - for ever.
And switch to Eudora.
Under Win oder Mac.

Since Eudora is a separate programm
and not so closely connected to the WinOS,
viruses can' get active that easily,
e.g. vbs-attachments.

...

May  I suggest Forte' Agent for mail on a Win box?  It is text based,
will let you inspect attachments/html in raw form, and will warn and
query you should you try to open an executable.  I've been using it for
2 years now and if there is a reason not to, I haven't run into it.  You
can download a free version called Free Agent.  I think the news reader
is crippled on the free version.  I don't know if it runs ads.

My mail will have to come through a Win machine for a while yet, so
Agent is my protection against hostile email.  I tried Eudora, but, for
some reason I can't recall, it didn't thrill me.
Yes I fear I am living beyond my mental means--Nash



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-05 Thread Alan Chandler
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 May  I suggest Forte' Agent for mail on a Win box?  It is text based,
 will let you inspect attachments/html in raw form, and will warn and
 query you should you try to open an executable.  I've been using it for
 2 years now and if there is a reason not to, I haven't run into it.  You
 can download a free version called Free Agent.  I think the news reader
 is crippled on the free version.  I don't know if it runs ads.


Unfortunately, I think you have it the wrong way round.  The free version is 
news only, no mail.  You have to pay for the full version that includes mail.

That said, I used to use it all the time on windows - even ran it on wine for 
a while when I switched to Linux (until I patched kmail to meet my needs)
- -- 

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RE: W32/Myparty

2002-02-05 Thread Jeremy Gaddis
Gary,

I also run Free Agent, though just for the newsgroups.
My MUA of choice is Outlook (no flames please, I'm tired
of them) and I have actually never had any problems with
it.  I do virus scanning on the mail gateway, before it
even gets to reaching Outlook and by disabling a majority
of attachments (.doc, .vbs, etc.) it isn't too much to
worry about.

j.

--
Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Gary Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 11:20 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: W32/Myparty


On Fri, 01 Feb 2002 09:18:44 +0100, Chris Mueller wrote:

At 00:11 -0500 01.02.2002, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:
Are you saying that when I decide to read the debian-* lists
I'm subscribed to, I should close Outlook,
 ...

For your own advantage
you should close Outlook - for ever.
And switch to Eudora.
Under Win oder Mac.

Since Eudora is a separate programm
and not so closely connected to the WinOS,
viruses can' get active that easily,
e.g. vbs-attachments.

...

May  I suggest Forte' Agent for mail on a Win box?  It is text based,
will let you inspect attachments/html in raw form, and will warn and
query you should you try to open an executable.  I've been using it for
2 years now and if there is a reason not to, I haven't run into it.  You
can download a free version called Free Agent.  I think the news reader
is crippled on the free version.  I don't know if it runs ads.

My mail will have to come through a Win machine for a while yet, so
Agent is my protection against hostile email.  I tried Eudora, but, for
some reason I can't recall, it didn't thrill me.
Yes I fear I am living beyond my mental means--Nash


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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-05 Thread Craig Dickson
begin  Jeremy Gaddis  quotation:

 My MUA of choice is Outlook (no flames please, I'm tired
 of them) and I have actually never had any problems with
 it.

Except for not being able to read messages like this one?

Craig



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-05 Thread dman
On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 07:42:32PM -0800, Craig Dickson wrote:
| begin  Jeremy Gaddis  quotation:
| 
|  My MUA of choice is Outlook (no flames please, I'm tired
|  of them) and I have actually never had any problems with
|  it.
| 
| Except for not being able to read messages like this one?

Or the messages some of my coworkers send -- the body is essentially
null and the real content is in a .doc attachment.

(The best is when antiword showed only [pic].  Fortunately the
latest abiword package actually runs which allowed me to read it.)

-D

-- 

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but its every decision is from the Lord.
Proverbs 16:33



RE: W32/Myparty

2002-02-02 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:

 You're a fucking arrogant bastard, you know that?

Being a recovering bob does that.

-- 
Baloo



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-02 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, dman wrote:

 No he isn't.  He's been a helpful member of this list for quite some
 time.

Used to have the email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and my tech IDs were
4263G and 6918B, before and after the Beaverton office moved.

 You can't claim that he didn't see what he saw.  You did notice
 that he didn't say *you* in particular were proud, just that all the
 outlook users he's worked with were.

Thinking back, I remember one Outlook user who was clueful, and he was
giving us a heads-up about a server that had *just* crashed (one of the
ancient NT machines in Illinois someone missed in the migration to
Solaris, if I remember correctly).

-- 
Baloo



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-02 Thread Adam Majer
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:46:47AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Personally, I'd love to be able to SSH out to my home box, but the company
 I'm in have an MS Proxy server blocking the way and it won't let anything
 out without authenticating using an NT account. :(

The funny thing is that it is probably easier to break the system than
acually use it for anything productive.

- Adam



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-02 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:46:47AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Personally, I'd love to be able to SSH out to my home box, but the company
 I'm in have an MS Proxy server blocking the way and it won't let anything
 out without authenticating using an NT account. :(

Have a look at httptunnel - it may let you run TCP/IP over HTTP.

SSH over TCP/IP over HTTP (with at least one proxy involved) over TCP/IP 
isn't going to be fast, but it may well be workable ...

-- 
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Microsoft is the question.
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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-02 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:

 SSH over TCP/IP over HTTP (with at least one proxy involved) over TCP/IP
 isn't going to be fast, but it may well be workable ...

I used to do this when some moron MCSE blocked close to all the ports,
severely limiting my ability to get my job done without the magic
tunnel.

-- 
Baloo



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-01 Thread Chris Mueller

At 14:09 -0800 31.01.2002, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:

This makes no sense to me.  If you're on a Linux mailing list, just why
are you using software by the antichrist?


Well - I never considered Apple as antichrist
;-)

I am mailing on a Mac.
It's easier, less time consuming - and safer:
- no mail on a working machine
- no virus on any other machine than this Mac
- most of the viruses can't disturb MacOS
- very successful screening for viruses
- no cost mailserver working reliably and easy to administrate
- superbe EMail client Eudora
and and and 

This makes sense to me
:-)
Chris



RE: W32/Myparty

2002-02-01 Thread Chris Mueller

At 00:11 -0500 01.02.2002, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:

Are you saying that when I decide to read the debian-* lists
I'm subscribed to, I should close Outlook, SSH to the mail
server and read them using {elm|mutt|pine|other_mda}?  Like
anything else, it comes down to what you like best and what
does the job well.  I run Linux on my servers because it does
the job better.  On the same note, I run Windows on my desktop
machines because, at this time, Linux, IMO, sucks ass as far
as desktops go.


For your own advantage
you should close Outlook - for ever.
And switch to Eudora.
Under Win oder Mac.

Since Eudora is a separate programm
and not so closely connected to the WinOS,
viruses can' get active that easily,
e.g. vbs-attachments.

I never understood
why people use such a complicated email client
when there is a much more handy alternative like Eudora.
Example:
You want to send a mail to a person you mailed before.
In Eudora
you klick send again
and change the relevant message text.
Everything else remains:
- to, from
- beginning and end of body
- sig

In Outlook you do not have a command like that.
The people who programmed Outlook
should be condammed to use it for livetime.

;-)
Chris





Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-01 Thread Brian Clark
* Chris Mueller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 01. 2002 03:20]:

[...]

 For your own advantage you should close Outlook - for ever. And switch
 to Eudora. Under Win oder Mac.

Or TheBat! (cheaper and more of a power users' Winblows MUA.)

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RE: W32/Myparty

2002-02-01 Thread Jeremy Gaddis
I used to use Eudora as my main MUA, but I find that Outlook
meets my needs better.  Outlook isn't *just* an MUA, it also
has a calendar, a task scheduler, a journal, etc. (all of which
I use, actually).  Since I'm going to use Outlook for these functions
anyways, I figure I might as well use it for e-mail.

Viruses aren't a problem as I like to think I have a bit more
common sense than the average Outlook user.  You might notice the
X-Scanner: header in my e-mail messages.  All incoming and outgoing
mails are scanned for virii on the mail server and I also run a virus
scanner on my desktop (McAfee/NAI on the server, Trend Micro on my
desktops).

BTW, each message I send out is copied to a folder on my IMAP store,
so resending a message is not a problem for me (if I need to do so,
which isn't often).

Anyways, I think we can call an end to this MUA war (which seems to
start back up every couple of weeks or so).  You use what you like,
I'll do the same, and we'll be happy campers.

j.

--
Jeremy L. Gaddis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Chris Mueller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 3:19 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Jeremy L. Gaddis
Subject: RE: W32/Myparty


At 00:11 -0500 01.02.2002, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:
Are you saying that when I decide to read the debian-* lists
I'm subscribed to, I should close Outlook, SSH to the mail
server and read them using {elm|mutt|pine|other_mda}?  Like
anything else, it comes down to what you like best and what
does the job well.  I run Linux on my servers because it does
the job better.  On the same note, I run Windows on my desktop
machines because, at this time, Linux, IMO, sucks ass as far
as desktops go.

For your own advantage
you should close Outlook - for ever.
And switch to Eudora.
Under Win oder Mac.

Since Eudora is a separate programm
and not so closely connected to the WinOS,
viruses can' get active that easily,
e.g. vbs-attachments.

I never understood
why people use such a complicated email client
when there is a much more handy alternative like Eudora.
Example:
You want to send a mail to a person you mailed before.
In Eudora
you klick send again
and change the relevant message text.
Everything else remains:
- to, from
- beginning and end of body
- sig

In Outlook you do not have a command like that.
The people who programmed Outlook
should be condammed to use it for livetime.

;-)
Chris




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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-01 Thread Stuart_Luscombe


On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:50:35 -0500 dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 02:26:52PM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
  | On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, John Griffiths wrote:
 [snip]
  | http://ursine.dyndns.org/~baloo/software/putty.exe
  |
  | Before this bob took a better job as a security guard, I used to just
  | telnet or SSH back to a sane environment.

 Unfortunately, some very clueful (NOT!) companies block outbound
 ssh packets, but leave open telnet packets.

 Portforwarding mitigates that, though...

Personally, I'd love to be able to SSH out to my home box, but the company
I'm in have an MS Proxy server blocking the way and it won't let anything
out without authenticating using an NT account. :(

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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-01 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, csj wrote:

 Maybe Passport will solve it for him.

And we all know how secure that is...

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RE: W32/Myparty

2002-02-01 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Jeremy L. Gaddis wrote:

 Are you saying that when I decide to read the debian-* lists
 I'm subscribed to, I should close Outlook, SSH to the mail
 server and read them using {elm|mutt|pine|other_mda}?

Preferrably for all your email.

 the job better.  On the same note, I run Windows on my desktop
 machines because, at this time, Linux, IMO, sucks ass as far
 as desktops go.

I'm not going to even touch the dozens of ways this little piece of FUD
has been proven wrong.

-- 
Baloo



RE: W32/Myparty

2002-02-01 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Chris Mueller wrote:

 For your own advantage
 you should close Outlook - for ever.
 And switch to Eudora.
 Under Win oder Mac.

Non-optimal.  Adware doesn't even qualify as non-free in my book.

-- 
Baloo



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-01 Thread dman
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 05:16:09AM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
| I used to use Eudora as my main MUA, but I find that Outlook
| meets my needs better.  Outlook isn't *just* an MUA, it also
| has a calendar, a task scheduler, a journal, etc. (all of which
| I use, actually).  Since I'm going to use Outlook for these functions
| anyways, I figure I might as well use it for e-mail.

Do one thing and do it well

need I say more?

| Viruses aren't a problem as I like to think I have a bit more
| common sense than the average Outlook user.  You might notice the
| X-Scanner: header in my e-mail messages.  All incoming and outgoing
| mails are scanned for virii on the mail server and I also run a virus
| scanner on my desktop (McAfee/NAI on the server, Trend Micro on my
| desktops).

Just think ... if windows virii/worms weren't so easy to create and so
easy to propagate, what would all those anti-virus and mass-media
companies do for a living?  Getting a virus scanner is like putting a
band-aid on a compound fracture.  It isn't the solution!

| Anyways, I think we can call an end to this MUA war (which seems to
| start back up every couple of weeks or so).  You use what you like,
| I'll do the same, and we'll be happy campers.

As long as receiving lots of nice little virii and having the
potential for your scanners missing the latest one that LookOut
conveniently executes automatically makes you a happy camper, go for
it.

mutt works great on windows too!

-D

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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-01 Thread Craig Dickson
begin  Jeremy Gaddis  quotation:

 Viruses aren't a problem as I like to think I have a bit more
 common sense than the average Outlook user.

I expect at least 90% of Outlook users think the same of themselves.

 You might notice the
 X-Scanner: header in my e-mail messages.  All incoming and outgoing
 mails are scanned for virii on the mail server and I also run a virus
 scanner on my desktop (McAfee/NAI on the server, Trend Micro on my
 desktops).

Not good enough. Virus scanners only notice viruses they know about;
they don't catch the new one that just got launched a few hours ago and
is already spreading around the world like wildfire thanks to the
popularity of insecure Microsoft products.

If you use the Preview pane in Outlook or Outlook Express, then there's
no way for you to even delete the message from your inbox without
activating the virus, because any click on the message will cause it to
be rendered in the Preview pane, and any rendering of the message will
cause the embedded script to activate.

To be relatively safe with Outlook, you have to ensure that all active
scripting is completely disabled for email messages. I'm not sure about
Outlook, but Outlook Express has an option to assign itself to Internet
Explorer's restricted zone, which you can then configure in IE to
disable all scripting, all ActiveX, etc.

Craig


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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-01 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Craig Dickson wrote:

  Viruses aren't a problem as I like to think I have a bit more
  common sense than the average Outlook user.

 I expect at least 90% of Outlook users think the same of themselves.

Having to do tech support on that godforsaken product has taught me that
*all* Outlook users think they're smarter than the average user.  Of
course, half of them asked me how to right-click, but that didn't stop
them from insisting they weren't a moron.

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RE: W32/Myparty

2002-02-01 Thread Jeremy Gaddis
You're a fucking arrogant bastard, you know that?

j.

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-Original Message-
From: Paul 'Baloo' Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 6:38 PM
To: Craig Dickson
Cc: debian-user list
Subject: Re: W32/Myparty


On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Craig Dickson wrote:

  Viruses aren't a problem as I like to think I have a bit more
  common sense than the average Outlook user.

 I expect at least 90% of Outlook users think the same of themselves.

Having to do tech support on that godforsaken product has taught me that
*all* Outlook users think they're smarter than the average user.  Of
course, half of them asked me how to right-click, but that didn't stop
them from insisting they weren't a moron.

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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-02-01 Thread dman
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:00:49PM -0500, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
| On February 01, 2002  at 6:38 PM Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote :

| You're a fucking arrogant bastard, you know that?

No he isn't.  He's been a helpful member of this list for quite some
time.  You can't claim that he didn't see what he saw.  You did notice
that he didn't say *you* in particular were proud, just that all the
outlook users he's worked with were.

-D

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W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread Chris Mueller

Hi,
7 mails with virus W32/Myparty got into my inbox -
all of them from linux-mailinglists.

:-(
Chris

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Hello!

My party... It was absolutely amazing!
I have attached my web page with new photos!
If you can please make color prints of my photos. Thanks!

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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread Lars Knudsen



Chris Mueller wrote:


Hi,
7 mails with virus W32/Myparty got into my inbox -
all of them from linux-mailinglists.


How many harmed your debian system ? 0 ? Ahh, the wonders of not being a 
slave to bill...




:-(
Chris

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My party... It was absolutely amazing!
I have attached my web page with new photos!
If you can please make color prints of my photos. Thanks!

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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread Geoff Beaumont

At 16:01 31/01/2002 +0100, you wrote:



Chris Mueller wrote:


Hi,
7 mails with virus W32/Myparty got into my inbox -
all of them from linux-mailinglists.


How many harmed your debian system ? 0 ? Ahh, the wonders of not being a 
slave to bill...


How many of us are reading this email on a Windows box...?


Geoff Beaumont
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Chris Mueller wrote:

 Hi,
 7 mails with virus W32/Myparty got into my inbox -
 all of them from linux-mailinglists.

This makes no sense to me.  If you're on a Linux mailing list, just why
are you using software by the antichrist?

-- 
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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread John Griffiths
At 02:09 PM 1/31/02 -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Chris Mueller wrote:

 Hi,
 7 mails with virus W32/Myparty got into my inbox -
 all of them from linux-mailinglists.

This makes no sense to me.  If you're on a Linux mailing list, just why
are you using software by the antichrist?


You might have heard of a little thing called work



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread Jason Scheffler
On Thursday 31 January 2002 18:09 pm, John Griffiths wrote:
 At 02:09 PM 1/31/02 -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
 On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Chris Mueller wrote:
  Hi,
  7 mails with virus W32/Myparty got into my inbox -
  all of them from linux-mailinglists.
 
 This makes no sense to me.  If you're on a Linux mailing list, just why
 are you using software by the antichrist?

 You might have heard of a little thing called work
Probibly for the same reason I do both. It's called work and what they run 
there and what I choose to run at home aren't necessarily the same.



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, John Griffiths wrote:

 This makes no sense to me.  If you're on a Linux mailing list, just why
 are you using software by the antichrist?
 

 You might have heard of a little thing called work

http://ursine.dyndns.org/~baloo/software/putty.exe

Before this bob took a better job as a security guard, I used to just
telnet or SSH back to a sane environment.

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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread dman
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 02:26:52PM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
| On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, John Griffiths wrote:
| 
|  This makes no sense to me.  If you're on a Linux mailing list, just why
|  are you using software by the antichrist?
|  
| 
|  You might have heard of a little thing called work
| 
| http://ursine.dyndns.org/~baloo/software/putty.exe
| 
| Before this bob took a better job as a security guard, I used to just
| telnet or SSH back to a sane environment.

I do this all the time!

Regardless, if you're using windows to read mail -- always beware!!
Even if you're not, just add a rule to your filtering mechanism to
file all that junk in the bit-bucket.

-D

-- 

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thousand typewriters and waited long enough, eventually you would have a room
full of dead monkeys.
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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread benfoley
On Thursday 31 January 2002 08:00 am, Geoff Beaumont wrote:
 At 16:01 31/01/2002 +0100, you wrote:
 Chris Mueller wrote:
 Hi,
 7 mails with virus W32/Myparty got into my inbox -
 all of them from linux-mailinglists.
 
 How many harmed your debian system ? 0 ? Ahh, the wonders of not being a
 slave to bill...

 How many of us are reading this email on a Windows box...?


 Geoff Beaumont
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

while bill does grate, ain't it nice of him to keep the amateur 
script-kiddies busy on that side of the fence.



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread John Cichy
On Thursday 31 January 2002 18:02, benfoley wrote:
 On Thursday 31 January 2002 08:00 am, Geoff Beaumont wrote:
  At 16:01 31/01/2002 +0100, you wrote:
  Chris Mueller wrote:
  Hi,
  7 mails with virus W32/Myparty got into my inbox -
  all of them from linux-mailinglists.
  
  How many harmed your debian system ? 0 ? Ahh, the wonders of not being a
  slave to bill...
 
  How many of us are reading this email on a Windows box...?
 
 
  Geoff Beaumont
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 while bill does grate, ain't it nice of him to keep the amateur
 script-kiddies busy on that side of the fence.

Yes, but we might have to be more careful now, billy is going to concentrate 
on security from now on...

John



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, John Cichy wrote:

 Yes, but we might have to be more careful now, billy is going to concentrate
 on security from now on...

Do you honestly believe it's more than the same bullshit lipservice as
before?

-- 
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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread John Cichy
On Thursday 31 January 2002 18:15, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
 On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, John Cichy wrote:
  Yes, but we might have to be more careful now, billy is going to
  concentrate on security from now on...

 Do you honestly believe it's more than the same bullshit lipservice as
 before?

No, but it's a nice thought though ;-0

John



Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:50:35 -0500 dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 02:26:52PM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
 | On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, John Griffiths wrote:
[snip] 
 | http://ursine.dyndns.org/~baloo/software/putty.exe
 | 
 | Before this bob took a better job as a security guard, I used to just
 | telnet or SSH back to a sane environment.

Unfortunately, some very clueful (NOT!) companies block outbound
ssh packets, but leave open telnet packets.

Portforwarding mitigates that, though...

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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread dman
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 05:46:12PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
| On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:50:35 -0500 dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 02:26:52PM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
|  | On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, John Griffiths wrote:
| [snip] 
|  | http://ursine.dyndns.org/~baloo/software/putty.exe
|  | 
|  | Before this bob took a better job as a security guard, I used to just
|  | telnet or SSH back to a sane environment.
| 
| Unfortunately, some very clueful (NOT!) companies block outbound
| ssh packets, but leave open telnet packets.

Argh.  Someone always has to make things difficult, don't they?

| Portforwarding mitigates that, though...

Heh, yeah, forward 23 on your box to 22 and tell the ssh client to use
the telnet port.  I like that!

-D

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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread csj
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:15:34 -0800 (PST)
Paul 'Baloo' Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, John Cichy wrote:
 
  Yes, but we might have to be more careful now, billy is going to concentrate
  on security from now on...
 
 Do you honestly believe it's more than the same bullshit lipservice as
 before?

Security and ease of use don't go hand in hand. Of course, that doesn't
mean that just because your OS is difficult it's necessarily secure...
One of Bill's biggest problems is probably convincing the average
computer user to use passwords. Maybe Passport will solve it for him.

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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread dman
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:34:25AM +0800, csj wrote:
| On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:15:34 -0800 (PST)
| Paul 'Baloo' Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, John Cichy wrote:
|  
|   Yes, but we might have to be more careful now, billy is going to
|   concentrate on security from now on...
|  
|  Do you honestly believe it's more than the same bullshit lipservice as
|  before?
| 
| Security and ease of use don't go hand in hand. Of course, that doesn't
| mean that just because your OS is difficult it's necessarily secure...
| One of Bill's biggest problems is probably convincing the average
| computer user to use passwords. Maybe Passport will solve it for him.

I heard that Passport had been cracked already.  Maybe google will
tell you where I heard it (actually, I think the URL came up on
deb-user a while back).

-D

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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread allen wayne best just ramblin in his amx
all:

see http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/01/09/10/010910oplivingston.xml

On Thursday 31 January 2002 18:30, dman wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:34:25AM +0800, csj wrote:
 | On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:15:34 -0800 (PST)
 |
 | Paul 'Baloo' Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |  On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, John Cichy wrote:
 |   Yes, but we might have to be more careful now, billy is going to
 |   concentrate on security from now on...
 | 
 |  Do you honestly believe it's more than the same bullshit lipservice as
 |  before?
 |
 | Security and ease of use don't go hand in hand. Of course, that doesn't
 | mean that just because your OS is difficult it's necessarily secure...
 | One of Bill's biggest problems is probably convincing the average
 | computer user to use passwords. Maybe Passport will solve it for him.

 I heard that Passport had been cracked already.  Maybe google will
 tell you where I heard it (actually, I think the URL came up on
 deb-user a while back).

 -D

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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:20:43 -0500 dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 05:46:12PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
 | On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 17:50:35 -0500 dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |  On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 02:26:52PM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
 |  | On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, John Griffiths wrote:
 | [snip] 
 |  | http://ursine.dyndns.org/~baloo/software/putty.exe
 |  | 
 |  | Before this bob took a better job as a security guard, I used to just
 |  | telnet or SSH back to a sane environment.
 | 
 | Unfortunately, some very clueful (NOT!) companies block outbound
 | ssh packets, but leave open telnet packets.
 
 Argh.  Someone always has to make things difficult, don't they?

The irony of a multi-national aerospace defense firm leaving open
telnet, but blocking ssh was never lost on me.

 | Portforwarding mitigates that, though...
 
 Heh, yeah, forward 23 on your box to 22 and tell the ssh client to use
 the telnet port.  I like that!

That's exactly what I did.  Worked like a champ...

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RE: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis
Because a person's e-mail address and password are used to sign
on to the Passport server -- where account numbers are held -- an
unscrupulous person at an ISP could easily steal credit card
numbers, experts say.

I'm sure the experts were hard at work researching this for
months before they figured that out.  This isn't limited to Microsoft's
Passport.  This would apply to anything that doesn't use some form
of encryption.

On a side note, any unscrupulous person at my ISP could easily
get my credit card numbers from their own files.

j.

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-Original Message-
From: allen wayne best just ramblin in his amx
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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:37 PM
To: Debian User Mailing List
Subject: Re: W32/Myparty


all:

see
http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/01/09/10/010910oplivingston.xml

On Thursday 31 January 2002 18:30, dman wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:34:25AM +0800, csj wrote:
 | On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 15:15:34 -0800 (PST)
 |
 | Paul 'Baloo' Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |  On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, John Cichy wrote:
 |   Yes, but we might have to be more careful now, billy is going to
 |   concentrate on security from now on...
 | 
 |  Do you honestly believe it's more than the same bullshit
lipservice as
 |  before?
 |
 | Security and ease of use don't go hand in hand. Of course, that
doesn't
 | mean that just because your OS is difficult it's necessarily
secure...
 | One of Bill's biggest problems is probably convincing the average
 | computer user to use passwords. Maybe Passport will solve it for
him.

 I heard that Passport had been cracked already.  Maybe google will
 tell you where I heard it (actually, I think the URL came up on
 deb-user a while back).

 -D

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RE: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis
Are you saying that when I decide to read the debian-* lists
I'm subscribed to, I should close Outlook, SSH to the mail
server and read them using {elm|mutt|pine|other_mda}?  Like
anything else, it comes down to what you like best and what
does the job well.  I run Linux on my servers because it does
the job better.  On the same note, I run Windows on my desktop
machines because, at this time, Linux, IMO, sucks ass as far
as desktops go.

j.

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-Original Message-
From: Paul 'Baloo' Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:09 PM
To: Chris Mueller
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: W32/Myparty


On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Chris Mueller wrote:

 Hi,
 7 mails with virus W32/Myparty got into my inbox -
 all of them from linux-mailinglists.

This makes no sense to me.  If you're on a Linux mailing list, just why
are you using software by the antichrist?

--
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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread Brian Clark
* Jeremy L. Gaddis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 01. 2002 00:13]:

[...]

 On the same note, I run Windows on my desktop machines because, at
 this time, Linux, IMO, sucks ass as far as desktops go.

Let the worms runneth over.

On your mark, get set, go!

*Pulling the fire alarm*
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Re: W32/Myparty

2002-01-31 Thread ben
On Thursday 31 January 2002 09:17 pm, Brian Clark wrote:
 * Jeremy L. Gaddis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 01. 2002 00:13]:

 [...]

  On the same note, I run Windows on my desktop machines because, at
  this time, Linux, IMO, sucks ass as far as desktops go.

 Let the worms runneth over.

 On your mark, get set, go!

 *Pulling the fire alarm*

SPLASH!!!



[Fwd: Sophos Anti-Virus IDE alert: W32/MyParty-A]

2002-01-28 Thread Lionel DARNIS


---BeginMessage---

Name: W32/MyParty-A
Aliases: W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Type: Win32 worm
Date: 28 January 2002

A virus identity file (IDE) which provides protection is
available now from our website and will be incorporated
into the March 2002 (3.55) release of Sophos Anti-Virus.

Sophos has received several reports of this virus from the wild.

Description:

W32/MyParty-A is a Windows 32 email-aware worm which arrives as
an email with the following characteristics:

Subject: 

  new photos from my party!

Message text:

  Hello! 
 
  My party... It was absolutely amazing! 
  I have attached my web page with new photos! 
  If you can please make color prints of my photos. Thanks! 

Attached filename: 

  www.myparty.yahoo.com

Some people may be fooled into believing the attached file is a
link to a website. If the attached file is executed the worm
sends a copy of itself to everybody in the Windows Address book
(except the current user) using a built in SMTP engine.

It gets the SMTP server information from the registry key:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Account
Manager\Accounts\0001

The worm also sends an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to track its
spread.


Download the IDE file from
http://www.sophos.com/downloads/ide/mypartya.ide

Read the analysis at
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32mypartya.html

Download a ZIP file containing all the IDE files available for
the current version of Sophos Anti-Virus from
http://www.sophos.com/downloads/ide/ides.zip

Read about how to use IDE files at
http://www.sophos.com/downloads/ide/using.html

To unsubscribe from this service please visit
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/notifications

---End Message---


Re: [Fwd: Sophos Anti-Virus IDE alert: W32/MyParty-A]

2002-01-28 Thread Nicolas Ledez
blablabla... de l'antis-virus

Bref je crois que cette fois tout le monde à compris que c'était un virus et de
toute façons comme la plupart des personne ici utilise des vrai MUA, nous ne
somme pas impacté par les virus et donc des alertes de ce type crée du bruit
pour rien (j'y contribut un peut mais bon...).
ReBref serrait-il possible d'éviter les message de ce type sur cette ML ?


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Re: [Fwd: Sophos Anti-Virus IDE alert: W32/MyParty-A]

2002-01-28 Thread Erwan David
Le Mon 28/01/2002, Nicolas Ledez disait
 blablabla... de l'antis-virus
 
 Bref je crois que cette fois tout le monde à compris que c'était un virus et 
 de
 toute façons comme la plupart des personne ici utilise des vrai MUA, nous ne
 somme pas impacté par les virus et donc des alertes de ce type crée du bruit
 pour rien (j'y contribut un peut mais bon...).
 ReBref serrait-il possible d'éviter les message de ce type sur cette ML ?

Déjà les erreurs ne devraient *jaias être retpurnées sur la liste, mais
à l'admin dont l'adresse est dans l'enveloppe. C'est un énorme bug de
certains MTA de renvoyer l'erreur au from d'en-tête au lieu d'utiliser
l'envelope.


-- 
Erwan



Re: [Fwd: Sophos Anti-Virus IDE alert: W32/MyParty-A]

2002-01-28 Thread Gaetan Ryckeboer
Le Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 01:24:24PM +0100, Erwan David a écrit :
 Déjà les erreurs ne devraient *jaias être retpurnées sur la liste, mais
 à l'admin dont l'adresse est dans l'enveloppe. C'est un énorme bug de
 certains MTA de renvoyer l'erreur au from d'en-tête au lieu d'utiliser
 l'envelope.

Boarf... déjà le MTA dont on parle à lui tout seul est un énorme Bug...
 
-- 
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Gaétan RYCKEBOER
Ingénieur Systèmes et Réseaux
Société Virtual-Net

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Antigen found W32/MyParty-A (Sophos) virus

2002-01-28 Thread ANTIGEN_MADIMCSV02
Antigen for Exchange found Unknown-www.myparty.yahoo.com infected with 
W32/MyParty-A (Sophos) virus.
The file is currently Removed.  The message, new photos from my party!, was
sent from Unknown and was discovered in IMC Queues\Inbound
located at INDRA/VELAZQUEZ/MADIMCSV02.