Re: What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-09 Thread Matt Smith
thanks everybody for your help.

i've been using debian exclusively for years now and although i'm somewhat
familiar with bash, C++/Qt etc, networking is not my strong suit. Apologies
for being off topic, debuser just seemed like a community I could reach out
to.

Can someone please point their browser at 202.49.187.138 to help me
establish what exactly my isp has done?

I plan to read the network administrators guide. Are there other docs I
should look at as well?

Lastly, if I had one box for sharing, and one for personal work, should I
connect them both to the router, or put the personal box behind the other
one?

Ta, Matt.


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Re: What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-08 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 18:44:15 -0500
shawn wilson  wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Celejar  wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:55:32 -0500
> > shawn wilson  wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > lastly, what does this have to do with linux? debian in particular? to
> > keep
> > > this topical, if you're going to do any hosting on this box, i'll advise
> > you
> > > to mind what ports you have publicly accessible, run snort and monitor it
> > > (you'll notice some cool stuff - like universities scanning you - it's
> > the
> > > non edu that you should worry about here), install tripwire, and setup
> >
> > Why shouldn't he worry about scanning from .edu domains as much as from
> > anywhere else?
> >
> >
> it was a general comment. however, most of the scans i've seen are
> universities that are conserned with general internet statistics and not
> exploiting any service you might be running. i still take a minute, see what
> arin has to say about their ip, go to their web site and see what they're up
> to.

Sounds reasonable.  I just meant to warn that there are probably many
hackers, script kiddies and zombies / bots operating out of .edu
domains.

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Re: What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-08 Thread shawn wilson
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Celejar  wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:55:32 -0500
> shawn wilson  wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > lastly, what does this have to do with linux? debian in particular? to
> keep
> > this topical, if you're going to do any hosting on this box, i'll advise
> you
> > to mind what ports you have publicly accessible, run snort and monitor it
> > (you'll notice some cool stuff - like universities scanning you - it's
> the
> > non edu that you should worry about here), install tripwire, and setup
>
> Why shouldn't he worry about scanning from .edu domains as much as from
> anywhere else?
>
>
it was a general comment. however, most of the scans i've seen are
universities that are conserned with general internet statistics and not
exploiting any service you might be running. i still take a minute, see what
arin has to say about their ip, go to their web site and see what they're up
to.


Re: What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-08 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:55:32 -0500
shawn wilson  wrote:

...

> lastly, what does this have to do with linux? debian in particular? to keep
> this topical, if you're going to do any hosting on this box, i'll advise you
> to mind what ports you have publicly accessible, run snort and monitor it
> (you'll notice some cool stuff - like universities scanning you - it's the
> non edu that you should worry about here), install tripwire, and setup

Why shouldn't he worry about scanning from .edu domains as much as from
anywhere else?

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Re: What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-08 Thread green
Stan Hoeppner wrote at 2010-12-07 23:18 -0700:
> A static IP is not a requirement to "host" anything.

Now the problem is that many ISPs don't even provide public IPs.  DHCP returns 
some local address.  If they weren't so lousy maybe they would support ipv6.


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Re: What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-08 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 12:18:41AM -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Matt Smith put forth on 12/7/2010 3:32 PM:
> > I discovered my isp has assigned me a static ip.
> > 
> > Does this mean I can make files available over the internet, if I want to
> > leave a box running 24/7?
> 
> Yes, but you can do the same thing with a dynamic IP address and a
> dynamic DNS service.  A static IP is not a requirement to "host"
> anything.  I ran a home mail/web server for many years on SBC DSL with a
> dynamic (PPPoE) address.  Many tens of thousands of other geeks have as
> well. :)

For extra fun, you can get yourself a static IPv6 address and tunnel
that over your static or dynamic IPv4 connection.

You can then keep all your Debian systems up-to-date using IPv6
mirrors, and get out onto the "new" IPv6 internet.


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Re: What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-08 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello,

Stan Hoeppner a écrit :
> Matt Smith put forth on 12/7/2010 3:32 PM:
> 
> Yes, but you can do the same thing with a dynamic IP address and a
> dynamic DNS service.  A static IP is not a requirement to "host"
> anything.

A fixed address is required to host some services such as an
authoritative DNS server, and highly recommended to host an MX server.

>  I ran a home mail/web server for many years on SBC DSL with a
> dynamic (PPPoE) address.

Do not confuse the assignment method (static vs. dynamic) and the
persistence of the address (fixed vs. variable). A dynamically assigned
address can be fixed, i.e. never change.


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Re: What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-07 Thread shawn wilson
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

> Matt Smith put forth on 12/7/2010 3:32 PM:
> > I discovered my isp has assigned me a static ip.
>
>
i take it you're saying you have a static *public* ip?
first, i doubt it - my clear wimax modem has had the same ip for the past
two and a half month but i seriously doubt they've given me a 'static ip'.

what can you do with your connection?
that depends on what your isp allows. frankly, as a consumer (and sometimes
in business) i find it "better to ask for forgiveness than permission".
however, if you do something against their tos and they feel that you are
worth going after legally or want to make an example out of you, you'll
probably loose.

also, on a consumer connection, if you do have a static ip and you irritate
someone, they can dos you and you'll be hosed until you get your isp to
change your ip or deny whatever addresses are sending the attack.

lastly, what does this have to do with linux? debian in particular? to keep
this topical, if you're going to do any hosting on this box, i'll advise you
to mind what ports you have publicly accessible, run snort and monitor it
(you'll notice some cool stuff - like universities scanning you - it's the
non edu that you should worry about here), install tripwire, and setup
remote logging on a server or vm that is hardened even further, also if you
setup dns limit zone transfers. i list these habits in no particular order -
just things to keep in mind if you go public on with "servers" on a "static
ip address".


Re: What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-07 Thread Fredrik Andersson
Yeah im doing that now, got dynamic ip and a free dyndns account.
Running xampp and wordpress without problem.
Gonna try setup some ftp for buddies and stuff i need when im away.

fredrikfri...@gmail.com [X10]

Den 8 dec 2010 07.19, "Stan Hoeppner"  skrev:

Matt Smith put forth on 12/7/2010 3:32 PM:
> I discovered my isp has assigned me a static ip.
>
> Does this mean I can make files available over the internet, if I want to
> leave a box running 24/7?

Yes, but you can do the same thing with a dynamic IP address and a
dynamic DNS service.  A static IP is not a requirement to "host"
anything.  I ran a home mail/web server for many years on SBC DSL with a
dynamic (PPPoE) address.  Many tens of thousands of other geeks have as
well. :)

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Re: What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-07 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Matt Smith put forth on 12/7/2010 3:32 PM:
> I discovered my isp has assigned me a static ip.
> 
> Does this mean I can make files available over the internet, if I want to
> leave a box running 24/7?

Yes, but you can do the same thing with a dynamic IP address and a
dynamic DNS service.  A static IP is not a requirement to "host"
anything.  I ran a home mail/web server for many years on SBC DSL with a
dynamic (PPPoE) address.  Many tens of thousands of other geeks have as
well. :)

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Re: What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-07 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:32:03 +1300
Matt Smith  wrote:

> I discovered my isp has assigned me a static ip.
> 
> Does this mean I can make files available over the internet, if I want to
> leave a box running 24/7?
> 
> Thanks, Matt Smith.

Technically, you probably can.  Legally, many ISPs have a clause in
their consumer contracts disallowing the running any king of server over
the connection.

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Re: What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-07 Thread green
Matt Smith wrote at 2010-12-07 14:32 -0700:
> I discovered my isp has assigned me a static ip.
> 
> Does this mean I can make files available over the internet, if I want to
> leave a box running 24/7?

Anyone can access whatever local system of yours (could be a router) that has 
the public ip.  So you can provide services like ssh, http (web), etc to others 
or to yourself when you are away.


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Re: What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-07 Thread Vince Vielhaber


yes, provided your isp isn't blocking the port you share on.  some
isps block port 80 which would stop you from running a regular web
server.  most block port 25 unless it's going thru their server.



On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Matt Smith wrote:


I discovered my isp has assigned me a static ip.

Does this mean I can make files available over the internet, if I want to
leave a box running 24/7?

Thanks, Matt Smith.


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What is possible with static ip?

2010-12-07 Thread Matt Smith
I discovered my isp has assigned me a static ip.

Does this mean I can make files available over the internet, if I want to
leave a box running 24/7?

Thanks, Matt Smith.


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