Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread T Elcor
--- On Thu, 5/10/12, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote:

 I just use vlc, mplayer, and w32codecs.
 With those three it seems I can play anything.
 In fact, vlc alone is probably enough.

VLC alone didn't work for me, I don't remember if I tried ogv but MP4s didn't 
play for sure. What phonon-backend are you using, if any? What package are 
w32codecs in?

Thanks


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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com

On 11/05/2012 10:20, T Elcor wrote:

--- On Thu, 5/10/12, Indulekhaindule...@theunworthy.com  wrote:


I just use vlc, mplayer, and w32codecs.
With those three it seems I can play anything.
In fact, vlc alone is probably enough.


VLC alone didn't work for me, I don't remember if I tried ogv but MP4s

didn't play for sure. What phonon-backend are you using, if any? What
package are w32codecs in?


Thanks




w32/64codecs si from deb(ian)-multimedia, but it's not necessary.

This is what I have installed, everything is from Debian proper (contrib 
and non-free included), and I can't remember the last time I couldn't 
play an audio or video file... Many packages are superfluous and only 
necessary for specific use.


aptitude search 
~S~i~n'(libav|aac|aad|gstreamer|lame|ogg|ogv|mpeg|quicktime|xine|vlc)'

i   faad
i A gstreamer0.10-alsa
i A gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
i   gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
i A gstreamer0.10-gconf
i   gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
i   gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
i   gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps
i   gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
i   gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
i A gstreamer0.10-tools
i   gstreamer0.10-x
i   lame
i A libaacs0
i A libav-tools
i   libavc1394-0
i   libavcodec-extra-53
i A libavdevice53
i A libavfilter2
i A libavformat53
i A libavutil51
i   libfaad2
i A libgstreamer-plugins-bad0.10-0
i   libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0
i   libgstreamer0.10-0
i   libmp3lame0
i   libmp3splt-ogg
i   libmpeg2-4
i   libmpeg3-1
i A libogg-vorbis-header-pureperl-perl
i   libogg0
i A liboggkate1
i A libquicktime2
i   libsox-fmt-ffmpeg
i   libtwolame0
i   libvlc5
i A libvlccore5
i A libvo-aacenc0
i   libxine1
i   libxine1-bin
i   libxine1-ffmpeg
i   libxine1-misc-plugins
i   libxine1-plugins
i   libxine1-x
i A libxine2-doc
i   mpeg2dec
i   mpeg3-utils
i   phonon-backend-gstreamer
i   phonon-backend-vlc
i   quicktime-utils
i   quicktime-x11utils
i   twolame
i   vlc
i   vlc-data
i   vlc-nox
i   vlc-plugin-notify

For mp4's:

aptitude search ~S~i~dmp4
i   faad
i   kid3 #those
i   libtag-extras1   #are
i   libtag1-vanilla  #for
i   libtag1c2a   #metadata
i   libtagc0 #only
i   mencoder
i   mplayer2

I install libdvdcss2 separately for commercial encrypted dvd's.
If your file is rigged with drm's then you might have a hard time 
reading it on Debian (or any Linux), no matter what player/codec you use.


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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread Indulekha
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 01:20:21AM -0700, T Elcor wrote:
 --- On Thu, 5/10/12, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote:
 
  I just use vlc, mplayer, and w32codecs.
  With those three it seems I can play anything.
  In fact, vlc alone is probably enough.
 
 VLC alone didn't work for me, I don't remember if I tried ogv but MP4s didn't 
 play for sure. What phonon-backend are you using, if any? What package are 
 w32codecs in?
 
 Thanks
 

w32codecs are in non-free/w32codecs IIRC.
Phonon backend is a kde thing, no kde here.

Another thing that works is go to the mplayer homepage and download one
of the codecs packages, extract the codecs, and put them in
/usr/lib/codecs (create it if it doesn't exist).
Then install mplayer. 

It just occurred to me I have the debian-multimedia sources in /etc/apt/
sources.list, too:
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
Probably a good idea...
HTH!
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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread T Elcor
--- On Fri, 5/11/12, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote:

 Another thing that works is go to the mplayer homepage and
 download one
 of the codecs packages, extract the codecs, and put them in
 /usr/lib/codecs (create it if it doesn't exist).
 Then install mplayer. 

I just installed mplayer and it does play MP4 files in a kind of smallish 
window. But that doesn't appear to affect KDE integrated DragonPlayer or 
Kmplayer, that is, they still don't play MP4s. Not sure how to get them to 
work. Thanks


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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread Indulekha
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 04:44:02AM -0700, T Elcor wrote:
 --- On Fri, 5/11/12, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote:
 
  Another thing that works is go to the mplayer homepage and
  download one
  of the codecs packages, extract the codecs, and put them in
  /usr/lib/codecs (create it if it doesn't exist).
  Then install mplayer. 
 
 I just installed mplayer and it does play MP4 files in a kind of smallish 
 window. 

I always just use mplayer from the command line, it seems the best way
for me... YMMV.
Read man mplayer, and edit ~/.mplayer/config appropriately.

But that doesn't appear to affect KDE integrated DragonPlayer or Kmplayer, 
that is, they still don't play MP4s. Not sure how to get them to work. Thanks
 

My advice was not really meant to help with kde-specific stuff, as I know 
nearly nothing about it. I was just trying to help you play videos. 

There are certainly better newbie-friendly choices for desktop, BTW
(gnome and xfce come to mind).
Probably kde is best left to kde experts, or at least that was my impression 
the few times I played around with it. 

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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread Gary Dale

On 11/05/12 07:44 AM, T Elcor wrote:

--- On Fri, 5/11/12, Indulekhaindule...@theunworthy.com  wrote:


Another thing that works is go to the mplayer homepage and
download one
of the codecs packages, extract the codecs, and put them in
/usr/lib/codecs (create it if it doesn't exist).
Then install mplayer.

I just installed mplayer and it does play MP4 files in a kind of smallish 
window. But that doesn't appear to affect KDE integrated DragonPlayer or 
Kmplayer, that is, they still don't play MP4s. Not sure how to get them to 
work. Thanks


You need to install, as tv.debian has already suggested, the full set of 
codecs. Follow his/her suggestion and run:
  aptitude search 
~S~i~n'(libav|aac|aad|gstreamer|lame|ogg|ogv|mpeg|quicktime|xine|vlc)'

then compare your output to the one listed in tv.debian's answer.


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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread T Elcor
--- On Fri, 5/11/12, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:

 You need to install, as tv.debian has already suggested, the
 full set of codecs. Follow his/her suggestion and run:
   aptitude search
 ~S~i~n'(libav|aac|aad|gstreamer|lame|ogg|ogv|mpeg|quicktime|xine|vlc)'
 then compare your output to the one listed in tv.debian's
 answer.

My problem with that approach is that the list seems to contain packages that 
are mutually exclusive, for example, phonon-backend-vlc and 
phonon-backend-gstreamer. If you have the former, you don't need the later. And 
some packages are just weird: :)
 i   gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
 i   gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
 i   gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly 

Generally, I prefer to install only the packages I need, so I was hoping 
there'd be a more straightforward way then that.


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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread Gary Dale

On 11/05/12 08:52 AM, T Elcor wrote:

--- On Fri, 5/11/12, Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com  wrote:


You need to install, as tv.debian has already suggested, the
full set of codecs. Follow his/her suggestion and run:
   aptitude search
~S~i~n'(libav|aac|aad|gstreamer|lame|ogg|ogv|mpeg|quicktime|xine|vlc)'
then compare your output to the one listed in tv.debian's
answer.

My problem with that approach is that the list seems to contain packages that 
are mutually exclusive, for example, phonon-backend-vlc and 
phonon-backend-gstreamer. If you have the former, you don't need the later. And 
some packages are just weird: :)
  i   gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
  i   gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
  i   gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly

Generally, I prefer to install only the packages I need, so I was hoping 
there'd be a more straightforward way then that.


If you want the various codecs, you need the packages that contain them. 
The good, bad and ugly packages refer to the codec licensing terms and 
patent encumbrances.



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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread T Elcor
--- On Fri, 5/11/12, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:

 If you want the various codecs, you need the packages that
 contain them. 
 The good, bad and ugly packages refer to the codec licensing

Ah, I see. But it also kind of validates my point: it doesn't really make sense 
to install all three of them, does it?

Anyway, at this point I'd be happy if I could just get MP4 files to play, 
forget other codecs.


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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread Indulekha
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 06:22:49AM -0700, T Elcor wrote:
 --- On Fri, 5/11/12, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
 
  If you want the various codecs, you need the packages that
  contain them. 
  The good, bad and ugly packages refer to the codec licensing
 
 Ah, I see. But it also kind of validates my point: it doesn't really make 
 sense to install all three of them, does it?
 
 Anyway, at this point I'd be happy if I could just get MP4 files to play, 
 forget other codecs.
 

Actually it does make perfect sense if you want all the codecs, and
insist on using multimedia software that depends on gstreamer's stuff!
Odds are you'll need all those codecs if you want a beginner-friendly 
pointy-clicky multimedia setup anyeay, so just install them already.
It takes a good deal of experience to independently decide what you do
and don't need, that's why dependency handling is done by your package
manager by default rather than by you. ;)

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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread Christopher Judd
On Friday 11 May 2012 09:22:49 T Elcor wrote:
 --- On Fri, 5/11/12, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
  If you want the various codecs, you need the packages that
  contain them.
  The good, bad and ugly packages refer to the codec licensing
 
 Ah, I see. But it also kind of validates my point: it doesn't really make
 sense to install all three of them, does it?
 
 Anyway, at this point I'd be happy if I could just get MP4 files to play,
 forget other codecs.

Try just installing phonon-backend-vlc (and whatever dependencies it pulls 
in).

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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 04:44:02AM -0700, T Elcor wrote:
 --- On Fri, 5/11/12, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote:
 
  Another thing that works is go to the mplayer homepage and
  download one
  of the codecs packages, extract the codecs, and put them in
  /usr/lib/codecs (create it if it doesn't exist).
  Then install mplayer. 
 
 I just installed mplayer and it does play MP4 files in a kind of smallish 
 window.

Just press the f key for full screen. BTW, mplayer2 is all I use and I
haven't yet found a file it doesn't play, whereas with mplayer, I have
found some files which didn't play very well at all.

less /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

deb http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free

#deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
---8 ---
Note http://www.debian-multimedia.org; is commented out.

see: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia/FAQ

Just type mplayer filenameorwhatever.mp4 from an xterm.

P.S. The command is still mplayer because it uses the alternatives
system.

P.P.S I don't know whether mplayer2 is available in Squeeze. If not I'd
recommend upgrading to Wheezy for a desktop/workstation.

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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread Tom

Just two details --

On 05/11/2012 04:39 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:


#deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
---8  ---
Note http://www.debian-multimedia.org; is commented out.


That would be deb-multimedia.org now.


Just type mplayer filenameorwhatever.mp4 from an xterm.


If the file contains h.264 video, VDPAU does a wonderful job for
Nvidia (and some other) graphics cards, but for some reason this
needs to be specified with -vo vdpau -vc ffh264vdpau.

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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread steef


Never heard of 'The Good The Bad and The Ugly' ? Just a creative codec-joke I 
guess.


Kind regards,

steef


Gary Dale wrote:

On 11/05/12 08:52 AM, T Elcor wrote:

--- On Fri, 5/11/12, Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com wrote:


You need to install, as tv.debian has already suggested, the
full set of codecs. Follow his/her suggestion and run:
aptitude search
~S~i~n'(libav|aac|aad|gstreamer|lame|ogg|ogv|mpeg|quicktime|xine|vlc)'
then compare your output to the one listed in tv.debian's
answer.

My problem with that approach is that the list seems to contain packages
that are mutually exclusive, for example, phonon-backend-vlc and
phonon-backend-gstreamer. If you have the former, you don't need the later.
And some packages are just weird: :)
i gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
i gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
i gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly

Generally, I prefer to install only the packages I need, so I was hoping
there'd be a more straightforward way then that.



If you want the various codecs, you need the packages that contain them. The
good, bad and ugly packages refer to the codec licensing terms and patent
encumbrances.





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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 05:14:41PM +0200, Tom wrote:
 On 05/11/2012 04:39 PM, Chris Bannister wrote:
 
 #deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
 ---8  ---
 Note http://www.debian-multimedia.org; is commented out.
 
 That would be deb-multimedia.org now.

Thanks. BTW, that was quick.
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2012-May/026678.html

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SOLVED: Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-11 Thread T Elcor
--- On Fri, 5/11/12, Christopher Judd j...@wadsworth.org wrote:

 Try just installing phonon-backend-vlc (and whatever
 dependencies it pulls in).

That was a good suggestion, and I was able to (kind of) solve the problem. I 
now can play MP4, OGV, AVI and WMV files with KDE DragonPlayer without issues, 
which is what I wanted to achieve in the first place.

Hilariously, a new issue appeared: VLC player can't play any of the above video 
files, it just starts up, shows the first frame of the video and hangs. I have 
to kill -9 to get rid of it. Still it's a step forward.

Here's what I did:

# aptitude install phonon-backend-vlc
 [...]

# aptitude purge phonon-backend-gstreamer --purge-unused
 [...]

# aptitude install phonon-backend-vlc vlc
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libsdl-image1.2{a} libtar0{a} libupnp6{ab} libva-x11-1{a} libwebp2{a} 
libxcb-composite0{a} 
  libxcb-keysyms1{a} libxcb-randr0{a} libxcb-xfixes0{a} vlc 
The following packages will be upgraded:
  vlc-nox 
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse 
1 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 4,904 kB/5,156 kB of archives. After unpacking 4,706 kB will be 
used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libupnp6 : Conflicts: libupnp3 but 1:1.6.6-5.1 is installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

 Remove the following packages:
1) libupnp3



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] y
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libsdl-image1.2{a} libtar0{a} libupnp6{a} libva-x11-1{a} libwebp2{a} 
libxcb-composite0{a} libxcb-keysyms1{a} 
  libxcb-randr0{a} libxcb-xfixes0{a} vlc 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libupnp3{a} 
The following packages will be upgraded:
  vlc-nox 
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
  vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse 
1 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 4,904 kB/5,156 kB of archives. After unpacking 4,329 kB will be 
used.


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Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-10 Thread T Elcor
Hi,

After replacing phonon-backend-xine (it's been deprecated) with 
phonon-backend-gstreamer, I can only play videos in Ogg Vorbis (ogv) format. I 
suspect some codecs may be missing and need to be installed but I'm having a 
difficulty finding them.

Any ideas? Thanks


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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 12:24 -0700, T Elcor wrote:
 Hi,
 
 After replacing phonon-backend-xine (it's been deprecated) with
 phonon-backend-gstreamer, I can only play videos in Ogg Vorbis (ogv)
 format. I suspect some codecs may be missing and need to be installed
 but I'm having a difficulty finding them.
 
 Any ideas? Thanks

I'm booted to Ubuntu Studio Precise, I can't reboot to Debian, I've got
no time. On Ubuntu I've got installed:

root@precise:~# dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
ii  gstreamer0.10-alsa 0.10.36-1
GStreamer plugin for ALSA
ii  gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg   0.10.13-1
FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer
ii  gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3  0.10.15.debian-1ubuntu1
Fluendo mp3 decoder GStreamer plugin
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad  0.10.22.3-2ubuntu2
GStreamer plugins from the bad set
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse   0.10.21-1
GStreamer plugins from the bad set (Multiverse Variant)
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base 0.10.36-1
GStreamer plugins from the base set
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps0.10.36-1
GStreamer helper programs from the base set
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-good 0.10.31-1ubuntu1
GStreamer plugins from the good set
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly 0.10.18.3-1ubuntu1
GStreamer plugins from the ugly set
ii  gstreamer0.10-tools0.10.36-1ubuntu1
Tools for use with GStreamer
ii  gstreamer0.10-x0.10.36-1
GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pango
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-bad0.10-0 0.10.22.3-2ubuntu2
GStreamer development files for libraries from the bad set
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-00.10.36-1
GStreamer libraries from the base set
ii  libgstreamer0.10-0 0.10.36-1ubuntu1
Core GStreamer libraries and elements
ii  libgstreamermm-0.10-2  0.10.9-1
C++ wrapper library for the multimedia library GStreamer (shared
libraries)
ii  phonon-backend-gstreamer   4:4.7.0really4.6.0-0ubuntu1
Phonon GStreamer 0.10.x backend
root@precise:~# dpkg -l | grep xine
ii  libxine1   1.1.20-2build1
the xine video/media player library, meta-package
ii  libxine1-bin   1.1.20-2build1
the xine video/media player library, binary files
ii  libxine1-console   1.1.20-2build1
libaa/libcaca/framebuffer/directfb related plugins for libxine1
ii  libxine1-ffmpeg1.1.20-2build1
MPEG-related plugins for libxine1
ii  libxine1-misc-plugins  1.1.20-2build1
Input, audio output and post plugins for libxine1
ii  libxine1-plugins   1.1.20-2build1
the xine video/media player library, meta package
ii  libxine1-x 1.1.20-2build1
X desktop video output plugins for libxine1
ii  libxinerama1   2:1.1.1-3build1
X11 Xinerama extension library
ii  xine-ui0.99.6-1.1
the xine video player, user interface

Hth,
Ralf




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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-10 Thread T Elcor
--- On Thu, 5/10/12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:

 I'm booted to Ubuntu Studio Precise, I can't reboot to
 Debian, I've got
 no time. On Ubuntu I've got installed:
 [...snip...]

Thanks, that's a lot of packages though. I was hoping for a more succinct list, 
just the packages I need to play mp4, avi and wmv, in addition to ogv.


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Re: Wheezy: Can only play ogv video

2012-05-10 Thread Indulekha
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 02:07:05PM -0700, T Elcor wrote:
 --- On Thu, 5/10/12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 
  I'm booted to Ubuntu Studio Precise, I can't reboot to
  Debian, I've got
  no time. On Ubuntu I've got installed:
  [...snip...]
 
 Thanks, that's a lot of packages though. I was hoping for a more succinct 
 list, just the packages I need to play mp4, avi and wmv, in addition to ogv.
 

I just use vlc, mplayer, and w32codecs.
With those three it seems I can play anything.
In fact, vlc alone is probably enough.

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