Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
Thanks to all for the suggestions about getting the LaserJet 8000 running with the new debian box. Due to other matters I've only had a little time to put some of these suggestions into play, but I'll let you know how things turn out. Thanks again. -- Gary Dolan Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, Kernel 2.5.1-pre8 FreeBSD 4.4
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 11:29:43PM -0500, dman wrote: Can you ping it? Can you telnet to it? (try port 80 for the webserver, 631 to try and do IPP and 9100 for JetDirect; if you type stuff while telnetted to 9100 it will spit out of the printer as plain text) On a jetdirect box at work I get the following : $ nmap 192.168.0.5 Severl things here that I will try today. I had no luck either pinging or trying to telnet, but as I recall I tried only port 631. -- Gary Dolan Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, Kernel 2.5.1-pre8 FreeBSD 4.4
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
Noah Meyerhans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 10:29:05AM -0500, Brian P. Flaherty wrote: I don't know if you can get JetAdmin for Linux, but I suggest looking at CUPS. I have JetAdmin at work on Solaris and CUPS at home and they seem pretty similar to me. When you say check the status of an HP printer, what do you mean? Is it something more than a cron job grepping the result of 'lpstat -p printer'? No, JetAdmin and CUPS/lp* do very different things. Among other things, JetAdmin and friends can communicate via SNMP to a networked printer, allowing you to do fun things like reboot it or query paper status and things like that. CUPS/lp* only handle local queue stuff. They don't do much talking to printers beyond sending jobs to them. `apt-cache search snmp' shows up with among others snmp - NET SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) Apps and npadmin - Query information from SNMP featured printer. Maybe they do (part of) what you want. BTW, this is sid. Greetings, joachim
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
On Tuesday 22 January 2002 04:45 pm, Stan Brown wrote: I'm replacing a HP-UX workstation with a woody box. One of the functions of this HP box is to rotuinely check that status of a HP jetAdmin printer. Can I get JetAdmin software for Linux? If so has anyone got a pointer to a location? Any words of wisddom here? hello, I looked through my files, and I don't have it anymore, but I used to have hp webjetadmin for linux, downloaded from hp's site (you'll have to search for it, I did the same some time ago and don't remember the link) dragos
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
On Wednesday 23 January 2002 05:10 pm, Dragos wrote: On Tuesday 22 January 2002 04:45 pm, Stan Brown wrote: I'm replacing a HP-UX workstation with a woody box. One of the functions of this HP box is to rotuinely check that status of a HP jetAdmin printer. Can I get JetAdmin software for Linux? If so has anyone got a pointer to a location? Any words of wisddom here? hello, I looked through my files, and I don't have it anymore, but I used to have hp webjetadmin for linux, downloaded from hp's site (you'll have to search for it, I did the same some time ago and don't remember the link) dragos look what I found quickly: http://www.hp.com/cposupport/swindexes/hpwebjetad1880_swen.html dragos
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 05:42:29AM -0600, Gary L. Dolan wrote: | On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 11:29:43PM -0500, dman wrote: | | Can you ping it? Can you telnet to it? (try port 80 for the | webserver, 631 to try and do IPP and 9100 for JetDirect; if you type | stuff while telnetted to 9100 it will spit out of the printer as plain | text) | | On a jetdirect box at work I get the following : | | $ nmap 192.168.0.5 | | Severl things here that I will try today. I had no luck either | pinging or trying to telnet, but as I recall I tried only port 631. At work we have 2 jetdirect boxes and only one of them supports ipp (the one with the lower model number doesn't). -D -- In the way of righteousness there is life; along that path is immortality. Proverbs 12:28
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
* Gary L. Dolan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 05:22:29PM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: Well, you could print to it via Samba, or you could plug your networked printer into the hub, give it ip address etc., and set up CUPS with socket://my.hp.printer:9100/ on the Debian side. I haven't tried Samba yet, altho did a bit of looking at it. I did plug it into the hub, set up a new ip address, but had no luck communicating with it. When you say tried connecting, did you use crossover cable? Yes I meant, if you were connecting directly to the 2nd NIC on your box, not if you were plugging it into the hub, of course. Did you add route to 192.0.0.192 (or whatever your printer's Yes; that's the default on the printer. I also changed the ip using the configuration capabilities of the printer. Hmm. Does the light on the hub come up when you plug in the printer? Tried different cables? Basically, the problem may be with ethernet (NICs, cables), tcp/ip (route, netmask), or the printer itself. Once you've got the first two right, you can nmap the printer and see what ports are open etc. Dima -- The wombat is a mixture of chalk and clay used for respiration. -- MegaHal
Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
I'm replacing a HP-UX workstation with a woody box. One of the functions of this HP box is to rotuinely check that status of a HP jetAdmin printer. Can I get JetAdmin software for Linux? If so has anyone got a pointer to a location? Any words of wisddom here? -- Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]843-745-3154 Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 2000 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm replacing a HP-UX workstation with a woody box. One of the functions of this HP box is to rotuinely check that status of a HP jetAdmin printer. Can I get JetAdmin software for Linux? If so has anyone got a pointer to a location? I don't know if you can get JetAdmin for Linux, but I suggest looking at CUPS. I have JetAdmin at work on Solaris and CUPS at home and they seem pretty similar to me. When you say check the status of an HP printer, what do you mean? Is it something more than a cron job grepping the result of 'lpstat -p printer'? Brian
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 09:45:26AM -0500, Stan Brown wrote: | I'm replacing a HP-UX workstation with a woody box. | | One of the functions of this HP box is to rotuinely check that status of a | HP jetAdmin printer. | | Can I get JetAdmin software for Linux? If so has anyone got a pointer to a | location? I don't know what the JetAdmin program is, but the HP JetDirect boxes I've seen have a mini web server in them. Try pointing your java-enabled web browser at the jetdirect box and see what happens. I remember consitently crashing the JVM when I tried :-) (though it works on windows; blame sun). -D -- He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God. John 8:47
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 10:29:05AM -0500, Brian P. Flaherty wrote: I don't know if you can get JetAdmin for Linux, but I suggest looking at CUPS. I have JetAdmin at work on Solaris and CUPS at home and they seem pretty similar to me. When you say check the status of an HP printer, what do you mean? Is it something more than a cron job grepping the result of 'lpstat -p printer'? No, JetAdmin and CUPS/lp* do very different things. Among other things, JetAdmin and friends can communicate via SNMP to a networked printer, allowing you to do fun things like reboot it or query paper status and things like that. CUPS/lp* only handle local queue stuff. They don't do much talking to printers beyond sending jobs to them. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html pgpPEOcObOnIU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 09:45:26AM -0500, Stan Brown wrote: Can I get JetAdmin software for Linux? If so has anyone got a pointer to a location? Hmm. JetAdmin is just a Java applet, right? I have not personally used it, though I have coworkers who do. IIRC, some JetDirect cards have a built-in webserver, so if you point your java-enabled browser at the printer you'll get the Java applet stuff. Alternatively, if you don't have the right JetDirect cards, I would guess you could get JetAdmin from HP's web site. I also recommend getting the SNMP mib for the JetDirect card, which will allow you to write your own SNMP scripts to talk to the printers. I've found this to be extremely useful. noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html pgpXlfy2MbcGb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 04:48:30PM -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote: No, JetAdmin and CUPS/lp* do very different things. Among other things, JetAdmin and friends can communicate via SNMP to a networked printer, allowing you to do fun things like reboot it or query paper status and things like that. CUPS/lp* only handle local queue stuff. They don't do much talking to printers beyond sending jobs to them. I hate to leap in here, but I have been just looking at a similar problem. The basic setup: old standalone NT box, using LaserJet 8000 DN printer. JetDirect software, and the card, were installed but never used. New debian box (have to share with W2000) connected to LAN. Is there any way to use the debian box to (a) feed print jobs to the 8000, and (b) monitor print status, queue, etc., thru JetAdmin and JetDirect? The 8000 has to remain with the old NT box as the basic setup, but it seems a shame to waste it's rather significant potential. I have looked around for some linux JetAdmin stuff, found nothing. I have a second card in the new box that I tried connecting to the JetDirect card, to see what I could do, but so far no luck. Perhaps even tho there is no JetAdmin stuff available for linux, are there other possible ways of controlling this big dog of a printer thru the debian box? I suspect that the original poster is in somewhat the same situation, wondering what to do next? Thanks for any decent suggestions. -- Gary Dolan Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, Kernel 2.5.1-pre8 FreeBSD 4.4
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
El Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 04:15:10PM -0600, Gary L. Dolan escribió: On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 04:48:30PM -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote: No, JetAdmin and CUPS/lp* do very different things. Among other things, JetAdmin and friends can communicate via SNMP to a networked printer, allowing you to do fun things like reboot it or query paper status and things like that. CUPS/lp* only handle local queue stuff. They don't do much talking to printers beyond sending jobs to them. I hate to leap in here, but I have been just looking at a similar problem. The basic setup: old standalone NT box, using LaserJet 8000 DN printer. JetDirect software, and the card, were installed but never used. New debian box (have to share with W2000) connected to LAN. Is there any way to use the debian box to (a) feed print jobs to the 8000, and (b) monitor print status, queue, etc., thru JetAdmin and JetDirect? The 8000 has to remain with the old NT box as the basic setup, but it seems a shame to waste it's rather significant potential. I have looked around for some linux JetAdmin stuff, found nothing. I have a second card in the new box that I tried connecting to the JetDirect card, to see what I could do, but so far no luck. Perhaps even tho there is no JetAdmin stuff available for linux, are there other possible ways of controlling this big dog of a printer thru the debian box? I suspect that the original poster is in somewhat the same situation, wondering what to do next? Thanks for any decent suggestions. Long time ago I used some tools to setup a JetDirect printer under linux, I promise you that it could be done :), moreover cups support JetDirect printers, but I don't know if they have to been setup before or cups setup them. BTW looking for jetadmin at fm.net show up 2 projects that seems to support it, ones from HP and other that also support snmp printers, so maybe they will be usefull for you. Also making a search on google for jetadmin linux show this on the first position: Downloads and Drivers for hp web jetadmin software for ...hp web jetadmin software drivers and downloads for American English. ... Microsoft Windows 2000, Linux - Red Hat 7.1. Microsoft Windows NT 4.0, Linux - SuSE Linux 7.1. ... www.hp.com/cposupport/swindexes/hpwebjetad1880_swen.html - 49k - Cached -Similar pages So ... I think that HP had tools for jetadmin on linux. Have fun! -- _ _ // Raúl A. Betancort Santana/ A Dream is an answer to __ \\ // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // question that we don't know (oo) \\ // Dimensión Virtual S.L. // how to ask. / \/ \ // \ A Linux Solution Provider / `V__V' / pgpM0P5M1BMZL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
* Gary L. Dolan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: ... I hate to leap in here, but I have been just looking at a similar problem. The basic setup: old standalone NT box, using LaserJet 8000 DN printer. JetDirect software, and the card, were installed but never used. New debian box (have to share with W2000) connected to LAN. Is there any way to use the debian box to (a) feed print jobs to the 8000, and (b) monitor print status, queue, etc., thru JetAdmin and JetDirect? The 8000 has to remain with the old NT box as the basic setup, but it seems a shame to waste it's rather significant potential. I have looked around for some linux JetAdmin stuff, found nothing. I have a second card in the new box that I tried connecting to the JetDirect card, to see what I could do, but so far no luck. Well, you could print to it via Samba, or you could plug your networked printer into the hub, give it ip address etc., and set up CUPS with socket://my.hp.printer:9100/ on the Debian side. The latter is how a bunch of nt, w2k, linux solaris boxen print to 2 HPs here (4000 and 4500DN). When you say tried connecting, did you use crossover cable? Did you add route to 192.0.0.192 (or whatever your printer's ip address is)? If that's set up, you should be able to telnet to the printer. Dima -- The wombat is a mixture of chalk and clay used for respiration. -- MegaHal
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
On Tuesday 22 January 2002 10:29, Brian P. Flaherty wrote: Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm replacing a HP-UX workstation with a woody box. One of the functions of this HP box is to rotuinely check that status of a HP jetAdmin printer. Can I get JetAdmin software for Linux? If so has anyone got a pointer to a location? I don't know if you can get JetAdmin for Linux, but I suggest looking at CUPS. I have JetAdmin at work on Solaris and CUPS at home and they seem pretty similar to me. When you say check the status of an HP printer, what do you mean? Is it something more than a cron job grepping the result of 'lpstat -p printer'? Brian http://www.hp.com/cposupport/networking/software/hpwebjet_linux.selfx.html Good luck.
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 05:22:29PM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: Well, you could print to it via Samba, or you could plug your networked printer into the hub, give it ip address etc., and set up CUPS with socket://my.hp.printer:9100/ on the Debian side. I haven't tried Samba yet, altho did a bit of looking at it. I did plug it into the hub, set up a new ip address, but had no luck communicating with it. When you say tried connecting, did you use crossover cable? Yes Did you add route to 192.0.0.192 (or whatever your printer's Yes; that's the default on the printer. I also changed the ip using the configuration capabilities of the printer. -- Gary Dolan Debian GNU/Linux 2.2, Kernel 2.5.1-pre8 FreeBSD 4.4
Re: Where can I get JetAdmin for Linux?
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 10:03:08PM -0600, Gary L. Dolan wrote: | On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 05:22:29PM -0600, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: | | Well, you could print to it via Samba, or you could plug your | networked printer into the hub, give it ip address etc., and | set up CUPS with socket://my.hp.printer:9100/ on the Debian side. | | I haven't tried Samba yet, altho did a bit of looking at it. I did | plug it into the hub, set up a new ip address, but had no luck | communicating with it. Can you ping it? Can you telnet to it? (try port 80 for the webserver, 631 to try and do IPP and 9100 for JetDirect; if you type stuff while telnetted to 9100 it will spit out of the printer as plain text) On a jetdirect box at work I get the following : $ nmap 192.168.0.5 Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA30 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) Interesting ports on (192.168.0.5): (The 1542 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) Port State Service 21/tcp openftp 23/tcp opentelnet 80/tcp openhttp 280/tcpopenhttp-mgmt 515/tcpopenprinter 631/tcpopencups 9100/tcp openjetdirect Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 7 seconds HTH, -D -- A perverse man stirs up dissension, and a gossip separates close friends. Proverbs 16:28
