Re: Which IMAP server to use?
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On Sunday 09 December 2001 10:14 pm, Balazs Javor wrote:
Hi,
I'm planning to set up an IMAP server on my Woody
machine
easy - just use one of the debian packages. I use uw-imapd - but I have also
used cyrus-imapd in the past. With the first package you need user accounts
on the gateway machine for all the mail users for the second you don't.
Personally if its just two people I would stick with uw-imapd
Just for background:
I'm using Fetchmail to retrieve my mail from my ISP and several
other POP accounts I have. Then I use Procmail (through Exim)
to filter and sort my mail into several folders (mbox).
I do the same (apart from procmail - my mail client does the sorting) - and
use it to deliver mail to several accounts on my server machine. The
transport section of the /etc/exim/exim.conf file is like this.
local_delivery:
driver = appendfile
group = mail
mode = 0660
mode_fail_narrower = false
envelope_to_add = true
return_path_add = true
file = /var/spool/mail/${local_part}
uw-imapd already assumes that mail is in the file mentioned above and
provides an imap and pop3 service to it. If you use cyrus, its more
complicated because you have to pipe stuff into it - I use mailman as a list
manager and you have to pipe stuff to that. There is a full example on the
exim web site which you can use as an example if you decide to go that way
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Which IMAP server to use?
Hi, I'm planning to set up an IMAP server on my Woody machine so that if needed I could access my mail folders from remote machines. Also my has a Windows box and is using Outlook Express 6 to read her mail. I'd like to 'filter' her mail through the Linux machine, so that I can use Procmail on her mail as well to filter out potentially malicous mail, before letting Outlook Express open them. I've tried to look on the net for comparisons, suggestions and howtos on which is the better server but came up empty. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions! Just for background: I'm using Fetchmail to retrieve my mail from my ISP and several other POP accounts I have. Then I use Procmail (through Exim) to filter and sort my mail into several folders (mbox). From where I usually read them with Mutt. No ideally I would wnat to keep this as it is and add the ability to access the same folders occasionally from other machines. I figured IMAP would allow this, allthough I'm a newbie on this topic... Also I would use the same for my wife. The mail would be initially delivered to her Linux account, with the only difference that she would allways access it from her Windows machine. Many thanks for your help in advance! best regards, Balazs
Re: Which IMAP server to use?
On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 11:29:08AM -0500, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: Does bash (or whatever shell you use) notify you when you have new mail? This is important to me. If not, how can I enable or replace this functionality? It's so convenient! No, not currently. I've no idea whether this can be achieved or not, though I suspect that with some reconfiguration and some scripts it probably can be done fairly simply. I'ts not something that I use regularly as I spend 99% of the time in X. Matthew - Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 08:22:49AM +, Matthew Sackman wrote: Hi there, I use courier-imap which I find is fine: my big debian-user mail box often swells to 2000 messages and it takes about 12 seconds to fetch them all. I use postfix, delivering locally, the .forward file points to maildrop, which filters the emails into the correct mailboxes which I then access through mutt. It works pretty well! ;-) hope this helps Matthew On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:16:25PM -0500, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: Could someone recommend which IMAP server I should use? The only one I've tried, the one associated with Pine - or maybe it was the UW one (or are they the same? maybe) was too slow to use, and every other one I've seen does not support standard UNIX mbox format. That, however, is OK with me if I can keep the notification that bash gives me when I have new mail. I am under the impression that this feature of bash only works for mbox format. How can I resolve this and set up IMAP while preserving that feature? Thanks in advance. - Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IMAP server to use?
Hi there, I use courier-imap which I find is fine: my big debian-user mail box often swells to 2000 messages and it takes about 12 seconds to fetch them all. I use postfix, delivering locally, the .forward file points to maildrop, which filters the emails into the correct mailboxes which I then access through mutt. It works pretty well! ;-) hope this helps Matthew On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:16:25PM -0500, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: Could someone recommend which IMAP server I should use? The only one I've tried, the one associated with Pine - or maybe it was the UW one (or are they the same? maybe) was too slow to use, and every other one I've seen does not support standard UNIX mbox format. That, however, is OK with me if I can keep the notification that bash gives me when I have new mail. I am under the impression that this feature of bash only works for mbox format. How can I resolve this and set up IMAP while preserving that feature? Thanks in advance. - Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IMAP server to use?
Does bash (or whatever shell you use) notify you when you have new mail? This is important to me. If not, how can I enable or replace this functionality? It's so convenient! - Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 08:22:49AM +, Matthew Sackman wrote: Hi there, I use courier-imap which I find is fine: my big debian-user mail box often swells to 2000 messages and it takes about 12 seconds to fetch them all. I use postfix, delivering locally, the .forward file points to maildrop, which filters the emails into the correct mailboxes which I then access through mutt. It works pretty well! ;-) hope this helps Matthew On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:16:25PM -0500, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: Could someone recommend which IMAP server I should use? The only one I've tried, the one associated with Pine - or maybe it was the UW one (or are they the same? maybe) was too slow to use, and every other one I've seen does not support standard UNIX mbox format. That, however, is OK with me if I can keep the notification that bash gives me when I have new mail. I am under the impression that this feature of bash only works for mbox format. How can I resolve this and set up IMAP while preserving that feature? Thanks in advance. - Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IMAP server to use?
I may unsubscribe from the list soon, so please CC me on any further replies. - Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:16:25PM -0500, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: Could someone recommend which IMAP server I should use? The only one I've tried, the one associated with Pine - or maybe it was the UW one (or are they the same? maybe) was too slow to use, and every other one I've seen does not support standard UNIX mbox format. That, however, is OK with me if I can keep the notification that bash gives me when I have new mail. I am under the impression that this feature of bash only works for mbox format. How can I resolve this and set up IMAP while preserving that feature? Thanks in advance. - Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which IMAP server to use?
Could someone recommend which IMAP server I should use? The only one I've tried, the one associated with Pine - or maybe it was the UW one (or are they the same? maybe) was too slow to use, and every other one I've seen does not support standard UNIX mbox format. That, however, is OK with me if I can keep the notification that bash gives me when I have new mail. I am under the impression that this feature of bash only works for mbox format. How can I resolve this and set up IMAP while preserving that feature? Thanks in advance. - Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IMAP server to use
Thanks for the hint. I would much prefer to use a server that is secure. Even as we speak, I am connected to my current IMAP from work. I'd rather not be restricted to reading my private mail from home. On the other hand, I like the fact that the UW IMAP uses the traditional mailbox format. Cyrus doesn't do that, does it? Is there a way to access cyrus' mail database with a POP server? Thanks, j On Sun, Dec 17, 2000 at 01:49:44AM -0800, Nate Amsden wrote: Juergen Fiedler wrote: On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 12:03:41PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: I installed it on my test machine, and it couldn't have been easier. Netscape is still bitching because I didn't create a site certificate yet, but it's working. i would block connections from the world to a UW imapd server. it is well known to be full of security holes(most of the known ones are patched however from what i gather on BUGTRAQ the whole design of the server isn't done with security in mind). or compile UW IMAP with the stackgaurd GCC compiler. if your imap server is on a private network then i guess there isn't much to worry about. i for one just recently switched from uw imapd to cyrus, performance increased by about 10 fold. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IMAP server to use
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Juergen Fiedler wrote: Thanks for the hint. I would much prefer to use a server that is secure. Even as we speak, I am connected to my current IMAP from work. I'd rather not be restricted to reading my private mail from home. Don't let such alarmist talk scare you. uw-imapd is quite secure. I must admit the authors approach to security gives people queasy feelings though. Nevertheless, there haven't been any exploits for a long time and I feel quite safe using it. On the other hand, I like the fact that the UW IMAP uses the traditional mailbox format. Cyrus doesn't do that, does it? Is there a way to access cyrus' mail database with a POP server? The special format is the reason cyrus performs better. You can get similiar performance increases with uw-imapd by using mbx format but that also isn't compatible with the traditional format. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IMAP server to use
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 10:57:24AM -0500, Juergen Fiedler wrote: Thanks for the hint. I would much prefer to use a server that is secure. Even as we speak, I am connected to my current IMAP from work. I'd rather not be restricted to reading my private mail from home. On the other hand, I like the fact that the UW IMAP uses the traditional mailbox format. Cyrus doesn't do that, does it? Is there a way to access cyrus' mail database with a POP server? you can also try courier-imap, it uses mailbox format and supports ssl if openssl is installed. hth martin
Re: Which IMAP server to use
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 12:56:53PM -0500, Martin Würtele wrote: you can also try courier-imap, it uses mailbox format and supports ssl if openssl is installed. According to http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/: This IMAP server does NOT handle traditional mailbox files (/var/spool/mail, and derivatives), it was written for the specific purpose of providing IMAP access to Maildirs. Did something change? -- Maciej Kalisiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dgp.toronto.edu/~mac
Re: Which IMAP server to use
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 06:05:58PM -0500, Maciej Kalisiak wrote: On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 12:56:53PM -0500, Martin Würtele wrote: you can also try courier-imap, it uses mailbox format and supports ssl if openssl is installed. According to http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/: This IMAP server does NOT handle traditional mailbox files (/var/spool/mail, and derivatives), it was written for the specific purpose of providing IMAP access to Maildirs. Did something change? strange, on my potato box it works fine and I can read mail by using pop3 access (cucipop running) or imap or imaps (courier) and have no problems. hmmm This package allows users to read mailboxes stored on the server machine. It supports mailboxes written in the Maildir format used by Qmail or Exim. It also supports the use of authentication via PAM, e.g. for passwords stored in an LDAP directory. ok, i have it running with exim, that might be the solution. martin
Re: Which IMAP server to use
Juergen Fiedler wrote: On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 12:03:41PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: I installed it on my test machine, and it couldn't have been easier. Netscape is still bitching because I didn't create a site certificate yet, but it's working. i would block connections from the world to a UW imapd server. it is well known to be full of security holes(most of the known ones are patched however from what i gather on BUGTRAQ the whole design of the server isn't done with security in mind). or compile UW IMAP with the stackgaurd GCC compiler. if your imap server is on a private network then i guess there isn't much to worry about. i for one just recently switched from uw imapd to cyrus, performance increased by about 10 fold. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which IMAP server to use
Hi, I am planning to switch my private mail server from Redhat to Woody and at the same time upgrade to a decent IMAP server. But the choices, the choices! There seem to be courier-imap cyrus-imap and uw-imapd. I think I heard good things about Courier. Then again, there is a whole HOWTO for Cyrus. And then there are of course several other servers. Does anyone have any recommendations? I would like to have SSL and it wouldn't hurt if the software was easy to maintain. Thanks in advance, j
Re: Which IMAP server to use
On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Juergen Fiedler wrote: Hi, I am planning to switch my private mail server from Redhat to Woody and at the same time upgrade to a decent IMAP server. But the choices, the choices! There seem to be courier-imap cyrus-imap and uw-imapd. I think I heard good things about Courier. Then again, there is a whole HOWTO for Cyrus. And then there are of course several other servers. Does anyone have any recommendations? I would like to have SSL and it wouldn't hurt if the software was easy to maintain. There is now a uw-imapd-ssl package which supports SSL/TLS builtin. (Previously you had to wrap it with ssltunnel.) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IMAP server to use
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 12:03:41PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: I installed it on my test machine, and it couldn't have been easier. Netscape is still bitching because I didn't create a site certificate yet, but it's working. Thanks so much! j On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Juergen Fiedler wrote: [...] There is now a uw-imapd-ssl package which supports SSL/TLS builtin. (Previously you had to wrap it with ssltunnel.) -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
