Re: Withdrawl of fee for producing Debian CDs
I'm the Sec'try/Treasurer of a local amateur radio club and we just set up an account at the local bank. The only drawback was that they wanted the SSN of the club officers. I'd guess you'd have to apply for a not-for-profit (as opposed to a non-profit) organization tax id, if you wanted to avoid that. No special DBA or anything else required here. Jim. - Received message begins Here - On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Tim Sailer wrote: In your email to me, Dale Scheetz, you wrote: [clip] In any case, whether we call it contributions or payments, the bottom line is, we need a place to send money for the project. The ability to do this is a pre-depends on any other scheme for financing the project. Doesn't the project have enough legal status to open a checking account? What do we need to do to get to that point? In most states, you have to file for at least a DBA, and be able to take that to the bank to open a commercial account. THe only problem with that is the suck more out of a commercial account than a personal one.. And who is going to document where the money goes? I personally don't care abotu the details, but *someone* is going to demand an accounting someday. I think Bruce has enough to do right now.. I agree both that someone will need to perform this task, and that Bruce should not be encombered with such responsibilities, he does more than enough already. Sounds like one of the early responsibilities for the BOD will be to appoint/adopt a Treasurer for the organization. Rather than a DBA I was hoping that someone might know how their local LUG or other clubs deal with the issue of money management. We will obviously need some volunteer effort to make this happen, so get your excuses all lined up ;-) but let us know what the alternatives are. P.S. Just another point. If we had a place to deposit money, any future montary problems could be solved by small donations from the developers. I'd certainly send in $10 to help finance the project through any tough times. If the rest of the group feels as I do this would yield $1600 dollars in one fell swoop. This wouldn't get very many people to trade shows, but it would provide funds for advertising and other promotional material. I'd gladly personally send $10-$20 now, and have our fledgling ISP send in $50-100, because we're running Debian.. Good to know that others are willing to contribute. We need to understand what our necessary budget is like before we just throw money at the problem. And, of course, we first need a place to sent our monetary contributions. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Lynch, System Engineer, SGI/Cray Research, Inc. / ARS: K4GVO Federal Business Systems, Phone: (770) 631-2254, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree City, GA 30269 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Withdrawl of fee for producing Debian CDs
In your email to me, Dale Scheetz, you wrote: [clip] In any case, whether we call it contributions or payments, the bottom line is, we need a place to send money for the project. The ability to do this is a pre-depends on any other scheme for financing the project. Doesn't the project have enough legal status to open a checking account? What do we need to do to get to that point? In most states, you have to file for at least a DBA, and be able to take that to the bank to open a commercial account. THe only problem with that is the suck more out of a commercial account than a personal one.. And who is going to document where the money goes? I personally don't care abotu the details, but *someone* is going to demand an accounting someday. I think Bruce has enough to do right now.. P.S. Just another point. If we had a place to deposit money, any future montary problems could be solved by small donations from the developers. I'd certainly send in $10 to help finance the project through any tough times. If the rest of the group feels as I do this would yield $1600 dollars in one fell swoop. This wouldn't get very many people to trade shows, but it would provide funds for advertising and other promotional material. I'd gladly personally send $10-$20 now, and have our fledgling ISP send in $50-100, because we're running Debian.. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps You cannot paint the 'Mona Lisa' by assigning one dab each to a thousand painters. -- William F. Buckley, Jr. ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Withdrawl of fee for producing Debian CDs
On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Tim Sailer wrote: In your email to me, Dale Scheetz, you wrote: [clip] In any case, whether we call it contributions or payments, the bottom line is, we need a place to send money for the project. The ability to do this is a pre-depends on any other scheme for financing the project. Doesn't the project have enough legal status to open a checking account? What do we need to do to get to that point? In most states, you have to file for at least a DBA, and be able to take that to the bank to open a commercial account. THe only problem with that is the suck more out of a commercial account than a personal one.. And who is going to document where the money goes? I personally don't care abotu the details, but *someone* is going to demand an accounting someday. I think Bruce has enough to do right now.. I agree both that someone will need to perform this task, and that Bruce should not be encombered with such responsibilities, he does more than enough already. Sounds like one of the early responsibilities for the BOD will be to appoint/adopt a Treasurer for the organization. Rather than a DBA I was hoping that someone might know how their local LUG or other clubs deal with the issue of money management. We will obviously need some volunteer effort to make this happen, so get your excuses all lined up ;-) but let us know what the alternatives are. P.S. Just another point. If we had a place to deposit money, any future montary problems could be solved by small donations from the developers. I'd certainly send in $10 to help finance the project through any tough times. If the rest of the group feels as I do this would yield $1600 dollars in one fell swoop. This wouldn't get very many people to trade shows, but it would provide funds for advertising and other promotional material. I'd gladly personally send $10-$20 now, and have our fledgling ISP send in $50-100, because we're running Debian.. Good to know that others are willing to contribute. We need to understand what our necessary budget is like before we just throw money at the problem. And, of course, we first need a place to sent our monetary contributions. Luck, Dwarf -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Withdrawl of fee for producing Debian CDs
One of the problems of leading a group of volunteers is that one can only lead where they will follow. There was too much resentment among a number of Debian developers over the $2 fee I proposed to charge for the privilege of producing the official Debian CD. Thus, Debian will not charge any fee for the privilege of producing the Official Debian CD. We will instead request, but not compel, a donation from CD manufacturers. The amount of the donation pledged per unit will be printed on the CD package. We will still require a contract to use the cover art and the words Official Debian CD, but this contact will be designed to give the project control over the content, not revenue from unit sales. As currently, we will continue to allow anyone to produce Debian CDs without a contract, as long as they use different cover art and call it something without the words Official Debian in it. Thanks Bruce Perens Debian Project Leader -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Withdrawl of fee for producing Debian CDs
On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, Bruce Perens wrote: One of the problems of leading a group of volunteers is that one can only lead where they will follow. There was too much resentment among a number of Debian developers over the $2 fee I proposed to charge for the privilege of producing the official Debian CD. Thus, Debian will not charge any fee for the privilege of producing the Official Debian CD. We will instead request, but not compel, a donation from CD manufacturers. The amount of the donation pledged per unit will be printed on the CD package. We will still require a contract to use the cover art and the words Official Debian CD, but this contact will be designed to give the project control over the content, not revenue from unit sales. As currently, we will continue to allow anyone to produce Debian CDs without a contract, as long as they use different cover art and call it something without the words Official Debian in it. It's not clear that we have been listening to the same group. At least, I never opposed the payment portion of your idea. I would have rather you dropped the official designation and kept the payment/donation (which you really have kept, but just reworded) I like the idea of calling it a Contribution CD and thus declaring it's purpose, rather than an Official CD implying that all others are somehow Unofficial and therefore unsupported. In any case, whether we call it contributions or payments, the bottom line is, we need a place to send money for the project. The ability to do this is a pre-depends on any other scheme for financing the project. Doesn't the project have enough legal status to open a checking account? What do we need to do to get to that point? Thanks, Dwarf P.S. Just another point. If we had a place to deposit money, any future montary problems could be solved by small donations from the developers. I'd certainly send in $10 to help finance the project through any tough times. If the rest of the group feels as I do this would yield $1600 dollars in one fell swoop. This wouldn't get very many people to trade shows, but it would provide funds for advertising and other promotional material. -- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 If you don't see what you want, just ask -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
