Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:44:12 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: On 03/01/12 04:55, Camaleón wrote: But the best thing is that there is a patch already done for having the feature implemented at Xorg. I haven't re-read the bug report, but my impression was that someone has written a patch, but it hasn't been accepted, and there was dispute about it, so there's no guarantee it's going to get in. The bug report states it is in a review process... but to be sincere, I don't mind the patch is accepted or not. The important thing (from my POV, of course) is that it can be done and that's enough (again, for me) :-) I don't have the need of increasing the wheel scroll speed, but it would be nice to have such option, of course. That's something users are requesting a lot... It seems to me that if the OP of that bug succeeds, all you'd get is _more_ lines/rows of scroll, not fewer - it would still need changes in the app. Wheel sroll speed is slow (at least with my basic 3 button mouse I also barely get 3 lines up/down which can be quite annoying depending on the document lentgh). But if there is a patch to speed it up, I see no compeling reason for not having the opposite and make the wheel scrolls slowly. The patch allows for faster scrolling by sending multiple events for each wheel click. How do you send less than 1 (but more than 0) clicks? I have not read the patch code but how about by reducing (dividing/ substracting/fractioning operations) the events? But I'm inclined to agree with the other view, that the mouse wheel just gives button events, and it's up to the app to interpret them - possibly referring to a system-wide (or DE-wide) configuration - since it clearly means something different depending on the type of app. I don't share that POV. IMO, it will be desiderable to be possible to tweak both options: one (system wide) that affects all applications managed via Xorg's mouse driver and also having the possibility to control wheel speed for every application. This will result in a fine grained configuration that will suit every user need. Desirable, perhaps. Feasible, I don't think so. In the end it seems to be perfectly feasible: 1/ KDE (maybe because of Qt?) users already have such option 2/ There is a generic patch (evdev) for Xorg to implement it It seems to me the real problem is that the wheel just isn't as fine -grained as the movement of the mouse - my mouse appears to have 24 clicks/rotation, and it has no way to measure smaller movements than that. So the only adjustment possible is how far per click, and that needs to be measured differently depending on whether the app is (viewed as being) explicitly line based, the way the OP wants to see their spreadsheet, or effectively continuous. And that's up to both the app and the user, and changing what happens in the driver can only reduce the options for those. IMHO. I don't understand why you think it's something so hard to get. Look, I have next to me my windows computer with a tree-button mouse (2 buttons+wheel) from the same brand and model I use with lenny and using the default mouse driver (the one that comes with the OS). Okay, so I have set there the mouse wheel scrolls down/up 3 lines at a time (whatever-that-means-for-windows) and when I open a spreadsheet and I scroll down I jump from raw 1 to raw 3. Fine. Now I configure the wheel to jump one page at a time (whatever-that- means-for-windows), go to the same spreadsheet and scrolling down takes me from raw 1 to raw 64. That's a hughe gain for sheets with thousand of records. Yes, yes... windows is windows and linux is linux. I agree. But the source of this problem shares the same nature (I can be wrong but I don't think the mouse is treated so differently in both systems, it's a very basic input device, nothing fancy) :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2012.01.03.17.01...@gmail.com
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:09:25 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: On 02/01/12 05:02, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 14:01:26 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) Anyway, I still think this is the job for Xorg, not LO or other application. P.S. I'm still looking for a solution on how to get the wheel srolls more that a few of lines... seems grotesque that this is not possible. I've found this: Bug 29905 - acceleration for mouse wheel https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29905 Which at least comes to confirm: - That this is something to be put at Xorg side - That this is a future feature Well, it confirms that someone else thinks it belongs in X :-) What a beautiful coincidence :-) But the best thing is that there is a patch already done for having the feature implemented at Xorg. It seems to me that if the OP of that bug succeeds, all you'd get is _more_ lines/rows of scroll, not fewer - it would still need changes in the app. Wheel sroll speed is slow (at least with my basic 3 button mouse I also barely get 3 lines up/down which can be quite annoying depending on the document lentgh). But if there is a patch to speed it up, I see no compeling reason for not having the opposite and make the wheel scrolls slowly. But I'm inclined to agree with the other view, that the mouse wheel just gives button events, and it's up to the app to interpret them - possibly referring to a system-wide (or DE-wide) configuration - since it clearly means something different depending on the type of app. I don't share that POV. IMO, it will be desiderable to be possible to tweak both options: one (system wide) that affects all applications managed via Xorg's mouse driver and also having the possibility to control wheel speed for every application. This will result in a fine grained configuration that will suit every user need. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2012.01.02.15.55...@gmail.com
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On 03/01/12 04:55, Camaleón wrote: But the best thing is that there is a patch already done for having the feature implemented at Xorg. I haven't re-read the bug report, but my impression was that someone has written a patch, but it hasn't been accepted, and there was dispute about it, so there's no guarantee it's going to get in. It seems to me that if the OP of that bug succeeds, all you'd get is _more_ lines/rows of scroll, not fewer - it would still need changes in the app. Wheel sroll speed is slow (at least with my basic 3 button mouse I also barely get 3 lines up/down which can be quite annoying depending on the document lentgh). But if there is a patch to speed it up, I see no compeling reason for not having the opposite and make the wheel scrolls slowly. The patch allows for faster scrolling by sending multiple events for each wheel click. How do you send less than 1 (but more than 0) clicks? But I'm inclined to agree with the other view, that the mouse wheel just gives button events, and it's up to the app to interpret them - possibly referring to a system-wide (or DE-wide) configuration - since it clearly means something different depending on the type of app. I don't share that POV. IMO, it will be desiderable to be possible to tweak both options: one (system wide) that affects all applications managed via Xorg's mouse driver and also having the possibility to control wheel speed for every application. This will result in a fine grained configuration that will suit every user need. Desirable, perhaps. Feasible, I don't think so. It seems to me the real problem is that the wheel just isn't as fine-grained as the movement of the mouse - my mouse appears to have 24 clicks/rotation, and it has no way to measure smaller movements than that. So the only adjustment possible is how far per click, and that needs to be measured differently depending on whether the app is (viewed as being) explicitly line based, the way the OP wants to see their spreadsheet, or effectively continuous. And that's up to both the app and the user, and changing what happens in the driver can only reduce the options for those. IMHO. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f02252c.8060...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
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Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:19:04 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 17:34:25 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: I would ask this question directly at Xorg's users mailing list: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg I did so, but get the following mail. http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg/2011-December/053926.html :( How bad ;-( But with all the due respects, mouse scroll wheel speed can be easily set in KDE affecting all X applications and also, there are mouse drivers (other than evdev) that allow to define this value in one way or another so although asking this at OOo forums/mailing lists won't hurt I don't think this is a per application setting, that would be just crazy. However I filed a bug against LibreOffice: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44355 -- Regards, Pal Happy New Year! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ty4f212q.fsf@debian-asztal.excito
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 11:01:49 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg/2011-December/053926.html :( How bad ;-( But with all the due respects, mouse scroll wheel speed can be easily set in KDE affecting all X applications and also, there are mouse drivers (other than evdev) that allow to define this value in one way or another so although asking this at OOo forums/mailing lists won't hurt I don't think this is a per application setting, that would be just crazy. However I filed a bug against LibreOffice: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44355 Better ask at LO mailing lists or forums first, the scrolling issue is not something for a bug report (unless you tag it as a wishlist bug) :-) Anyway, I still think this is the job for Xorg, not LO or other application. P.S. I'm still looking for a solution on how to get the wheel srolls more that a few of lines... seems grotesque that this is not possible. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2012.01.01.14.01...@gmail.com
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 14:01:26 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) Anyway, I still think this is the job for Xorg, not LO or other application. P.S. I'm still looking for a solution on how to get the wheel srolls more that a few of lines... seems grotesque that this is not possible. I've found this: Bug 29905 - acceleration for mouse wheel https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29905 Which at least comes to confirm: - That this is something to be put at Xorg side - That this is a future feature So finally this turned out to be yet another of those sempiternal bugtures that happen in FLOSS from time to time. Time to wait :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2012.01.01.16.02...@gmail.com
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On 02/01/12 05:02, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 14:01:26 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) Anyway, I still think this is the job for Xorg, not LO or other application. P.S. I'm still looking for a solution on how to get the wheel srolls more that a few of lines... seems grotesque that this is not possible. I've found this: Bug 29905 - acceleration for mouse wheel https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29905 Which at least comes to confirm: - That this is something to be put at Xorg side - That this is a future feature Well, it confirms that someone else thinks it belongs in X :-) It seems to me that if the OP of that bug succeeds, all you'd get is _more_ lines/rows of scroll, not fewer - it would still need changes in the app. But I'm inclined to agree with the other view, that the mouse wheel just gives button events, and it's up to the app to interpret them - possibly referring to a system-wide (or DE-wide) configuration - since it clearly means something different depending on the type of app. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f00cb85.90...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 22:19:04 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 17:34:25 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: I would ask this question directly at Xorg's users mailing list: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg I did so, but get the following mail. http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg/2011-December/053926.html :( How bad ;-( But with all the due respects, mouse scroll wheel speed can be easily set in KDE affecting all X applications and also, there are mouse drivers (other than evdev) that allow to define this value in one way or another so although asking this at OOo forums/mailing lists won't hurt I don't think this is a per application setting, that would be just crazy. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.12.31.11.43...@gmail.com
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On Sb, 31 dec 11, 11:43:27, Camaleón wrote: But with all the due respects, mouse scroll wheel speed can be easily set in KDE affecting all X applications and also, there are mouse drivers (other than evdev) that allow to define this value in one way or another so although asking this at OOo forums/mailing lists won't hurt I don't think this is a per application setting, that would be just crazy. IMO it depends. If the requirement is to scroll X number of lines then only the application can do it, since lower level subsystems don't know what a row is in the application. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 14:34:53 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sb, 31 dec 11, 11:43:27, Camaleón wrote: But with all the due respects, mouse scroll wheel speed can be easily set in KDE affecting all X applications and also, there are mouse drivers (other than evdev) that allow to define this value in one way or another so although asking this at OOo forums/mailing lists won't hurt I don't think this is a per application setting, that would be just crazy. IMO it depends. If the requirement is to scroll X number of lines then only the application can do it, since lower level subsystems don't know what a row is in the application. I don't think it's a number of lines but speed issue. The mouse wheel is seen by Xorg as another mouse clickable button and you can control the button click speed system wide (and of course, also mouse speed itself), so why is so hard to control the speed at which the wheel goes up/down? It's senseless :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.12.31.13.07...@gmail.com
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On Sb, 31 dec 11, 13:07:10, Camaleón wrote: I don't think it's a number of lines but speed issue. Look at the subject of this thread ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:53:08 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sb, 31 dec 11, 13:07:10, Camaleón wrote: I don't think it's a number of lines but speed issue. Look at the subject of this thread ;) Errr, yes, but the subject is misleading. We (users) understand things in a different way than computer programs do. If we want the mouse wheel to scroll a number of lines (or a number of rows, or a number of pages, or a number of...) we say so in a human way: Hey, I want to scroll down with the mouse wheel page by page instead 3 lines, how can I do it? but that stanza has to be translated to make sense for Xorg and Xorg sees speed and not lines. Just different wording for naming the same thing. And while we are discussing about names, the problem still remains :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.12.31.14.23...@gmail.com
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 17:34:25 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: I would ask this question directly at Xorg's users mailing list: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg I did so, but get the following mail. quote Feladó: Paul Vojta vo...@math.berkeley.edu Címzett:Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com Másolat:x...@lists.x.org Tárgy: Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw Dátum: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 13:09:24 -0800 (2011-12-30 22.09.24) On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 05:20:27PM +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: Hi, I'm running Debian GNU/Linux SID and my X Window uses Window Maker as a window manager. I'm using OpenOffice.org Calc very often and I want to setup mouse scroll in X so when I scroll with mice then in OOo Calc raws goes up/down only one raw and not three raws as it does at present. So what I'm basically seeking is a way for setting the mouse scroll to a different value other than three lines at a time. It seems that that this is a default value. There's no such thing as a mouse scroll value in X. When you rotate the mouse wheel, it sends a click on button 4 or 5. There's no such thing as a fractional click. This is a question for the people maintaining OpenOffice.org, not for the X consortium. Sincerely, Paul Vojta, vo...@math.berkeley.edu /quota :( -- Regards, Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87obupdagn.fsf@debian-asztal.excito
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On 17/12/11 22:05, Csanyi Pal wrote: Hi, I'm running Debian GNU/Linux SID and my X Window uses Window Maker as a window manager. I'm using OpenOffice.org Calc very often and I want to setup mouse scroll in X so when I scroll with mice then in OOo Calc raws goes up/down only one raw and not three raws. My short search in Google gives to me no answers for this issue except one must setup mouse scroll somewhere in X configurations. That's incorrect. For wheel button there is the option Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 in xorg.conf but this setup only the wheel button and not it's speed or what that is needed for for setup scrolling in Calc or in other applications. (Ah, my English! I hope that this explanation was clear..) I understand what you want, however that setting is not part of xorg (it's at a higher level). Any advices will be appreciated! It used to be that that scrolling was set from the system wide settings (default in KDE and Gnome is 3 lines) - this no longer seems to be the case. I've just checked on Squeeze, mouse wheel scrolls by 1 line has no effect :-( You could try compiling from source after modifying the necessary event value. From dim memories that'd be EventMouseWheelMoved and EventParamMouseWheelDelta(?). Best check my memory first ;-p I suspect the simplest approach is just to remap the down action by either macro of xbindkeys to the centre mouse button. By default that's usual mapped to paste so you'd need to disable/remap that[*1]. Being able to single line scroll seems like a reasonable and useful ability - perhaps file on the wish list[*2]. Though I'm certain it was possible to change in earlier versions using the system wide scroll settings - so maybe it is a bug[*3]. Cheers [*1] It's a system wide setting - not OpenOffice.org [*2] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/request.cgi [*3] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/enter_bug.cgi -- Iceweasel/Firefox extensions for finding answers to Debian questions:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4efe53a5.7030...@gmail.com
Xorg's evdev driver: configure the mouse wheel button to scroll up/down a custom number of lines (was: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw)
On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:40:03 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: (...) Searching with Google using keywords 'evdev scroll wheel' gives to me no answer for this. Thanks! Yep, there is not much information on the matter or at least I was unable to find a clear way to configure it. I would ask this question directly at Xorg's users mailing list: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg I shall do that and if find there the solution, I shall write down here too. There are also Debian Xorg developers and packagers posting in this list, let me edit the subject line of this thread to see if we can put this issue into their radar so they can give you some feedback :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.12.28.16.21...@gmail.com
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 17:34:25 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:05:53 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: I'm running Debian GNU/Linux SID and my X Window uses Window Maker as a window manager. I'm using OpenOffice.org Calc very often and I want to setup mouse scroll in X so when I scroll with mice then in OOo Calc raws goes up/down only one raw and not three raws. So what you are basically seeking is a way for setting the mouse scroll to a different value other than three lines at a time, right? The way to setup scrolling only one raw in OpenOffice.org Calc using mouse wheel button is to setup somehow the X Window, eg. to setup mouse driver to different value then the default, right? Yes, or so I think. If one setup this successfully I don't know how would this appeares in other applications than OOo? Mouse scroll can be set from X server as well as per application basis, that is, you can set Xorg to use a value (e.g., scroll 3 lines at a time) that will be used system wide affecting all of the programs but you can also set a different value for one application which will affect just that app. Firefox, for instance, can be configured to use a different mouse scrolling value so I guess there can be others... I don't know for OpenOffice, though :-? in xorg.conf but this setup only the wheel button and not it's speed or what that is needed for for setup scrolling in Calc or in other applications. I'm not sure how to achieve this. There has to be an option for the current mouse driver you are using (mouse, evdev...?) but e.g., man evdev returns no option available to control this setting. From the Xorg.0.log I find these lines: (II) config/udev: Adding input device ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse (/dev/input/event4) (**) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: Applying InputClass evdev pointer catchall (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse' (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so (...) There you have it. So the question is now how to instruct that driver (evdev) to use a different scrolling value, I see nothing at all a the man page nor in the docs :-? Searching with Google using keywords 'evdev scroll wheel' gives to me no answer for this. Thanks! Yep, there is not much information on the matter or at least I was unable to find a clear way to configure it. I would ask this question directly at Xorg's users mailing list: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg I shall do that and if find there the solution, I shall write down here too. -- Regards, Pal http://cspl.me -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8762h7jwbg.fsf@debian-asztal.excito
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 17:34:25 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:05:53 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: I'm running Debian GNU/Linux SID and my X Window uses Window Maker as a window manager. I'm using OpenOffice.org Calc very often and I want to setup mouse scroll in X so when I scroll with mice then in OOo Calc raws goes up/down only one raw and not three raws. So what you are basically seeking is a way for setting the mouse scroll to a different value other than three lines at a time, right? The way to setup scrolling only one raw in OpenOffice.org Calc using mouse wheel button is to setup somehow the X Window, eg. to setup mouse driver to different value then the default, right? Yes, or so I think. If one setup this successfully I don't know how would this appeares in other applications than OOo? Mouse scroll can be set from X server as well as per application basis, that is, you can set Xorg to use a value (e.g., scroll 3 lines at a time) that will be used system wide affecting all of the programs but you can also set a different value for one application which will affect just that app. Firefox, for instance, can be configured to use a different mouse scrolling value so I guess there can be others... I don't know for OpenOffice, though :-? in xorg.conf but this setup only the wheel button and not it's speed or what that is needed for for setup scrolling in Calc or in other applications. I'm not sure how to achieve this. There has to be an option for the current mouse driver you are using (mouse, evdev...?) but e.g., man evdev returns no option available to control this setting. From the Xorg.0.log I find these lines: (II) config/udev: Adding input device ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse (/dev/input/event4) (**) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: Applying InputClass evdev pointer catchall (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse' (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so (...) There you have it. So the question is now how to instruct that driver (evdev) to use a different scrolling value, I see nothing at all a the man page nor in the docs :-? Searching with Google using keywords 'evdev scroll wheel' gives to me no answer for this. Thanks! Yep, there is not much information on the matter or at least I was unable to find a clear way to configure it. I would ask this question directly at Xorg's users mailing list: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.12.21.15.21...@gmail.com
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:05:53 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: I'm running Debian GNU/Linux SID and my X Window uses Window Maker as a window manager. I'm using OpenOffice.org Calc very often and I want to setup mouse scroll in X so when I scroll with mice then in OOo Calc raws goes up/down only one raw and not three raws. So what you are basically seeking is a way for setting the mouse scroll to a different value other than three lines at a time, right? I recall this could be set from KDE mouse configuration settings but this was in the times of KDE3... now in GNOME I see no option under mouse settings to configure this :-? My short search in Google gives to me no answers for this issue except one must setup mouse scroll somewhere in X configurations. For wheel button there is the option Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Mmm, AFAIK that's for mapping the wheel button to another one or another axis (vertically/horizontally), not for controlling the number of the lines to scroll up/down. in xorg.conf but this setup only the wheel button and not it's speed or what that is needed for for setup scrolling in Calc or in other applications. (Ah, my English! I hope that this explanation was clear..) I'm not sure how to achieve this. There has to be an option for the current mouse driver you are using (mouse, evdev...?) but e.g., man evdev returns no option available to control this setting. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.12.18.14.35...@gmail.com
Re: X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 12:05:53 +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote: I'm running Debian GNU/Linux SID and my X Window uses Window Maker as a window manager. I'm using OpenOffice.org Calc very often and I want to setup mouse scroll in X so when I scroll with mice then in OOo Calc raws goes up/down only one raw and not three raws. So what you are basically seeking is a way for setting the mouse scroll to a different value other than three lines at a time, right? The way to setup scrolling only one raw in OpenOffice.org Calc using mouse wheel button is to setup somehow the X Window, eg. to setup mouse driver to different value then the default, right? If one setup this successfully I don't know how would this appeares in other applications than OOo? in xorg.conf but this setup only the wheel button and not it's speed or what that is needed for for setup scrolling in Calc or in other applications. I'm not sure how to achieve this. There has to be an option for the current mouse driver you are using (mouse, evdev...?) but e.g., man evdev returns no option available to control this setting. From the Xorg.0.log I find these lines: (II) config/udev: Adding input device ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse (/dev/input/event4) (**) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: Applying InputClass evdev pointer catchall (II) Using input driver 'evdev' for 'ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse' (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so (**) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: always reports core events (**) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: Device: /dev/input/event4 (--) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: Found 3 mouse buttons (--) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: Found scroll wheel(s) (--) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: Found relative axes (--) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: Found x and y relative axes (II) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: Configuring as mouse (II) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: Adding scrollwheel support (**) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200 (**) Option config_info udev:/sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input4/event4 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse (type: MOUSE, id 9) (II) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: initialized for relative axes. (**) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 (**) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: (accel) acceleration profile 0 (**) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000 (**) ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4 (II) config/udev: Adding input device ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse (/dev/input/mouse0) (II) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring) Searching with Google using keywords 'evdev scroll wheel' gives to me no answer for this. Thanks! -- Regards, Pal http://cspl.me -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87zkepx2i6.fsf@debian-asztal.excito
X Window: Setting up mouse scroll for OOo Calc to one raw
Hi, I'm running Debian GNU/Linux SID and my X Window uses Window Maker as a window manager. I'm using OpenOffice.org Calc very often and I want to setup mouse scroll in X so when I scroll with mice then in OOo Calc raws goes up/down only one raw and not three raws. My short search in Google gives to me no answers for this issue except one must setup mouse scroll somewhere in X configurations. For wheel button there is the option Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 in xorg.conf but this setup only the wheel button and not it's speed or what that is needed for for setup scrolling in Calc or in other applications. (Ah, my English! I hope that this explanation was clear..) Any advices will be appreciated! -- Regards, Pal http://cspl.me -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87mxaro3u6.fsf@debian-asztal.excito
