Re: X crashing after upgrade: urgent!

2009-09-30 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum [090929 20:11 -0700]
> Hi. Im running Sid on a Thinkpad T60, and recently rebooted my
> machine after having done several updates recently. I now find
> that X is crashing hard on boot, rendering the system unusabler.

Since you're running sid, which is good, you need to now how to use the
BTS:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=548716

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Re: X crashing after upgrade: urgent!

2009-09-30 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina

09/30/2009 12:59 PM, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum:

My big mistake here was to upgrade right before a presentation.


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Re: X crashing after upgrade: urgent!

2009-09-30 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Anthony Campbell  wrote:

> From: Anthony Campbell 
> Subject: Re: X crashing after upgrade: urgent!
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 12:51 AM
> On 30 Sep 2009, mihkel wrote:
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> > 
> > Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum kirjutas:
> > > I am willing to downgrade X but dont know how to
> do this. Or if it will help.
> > 
> > I had the same problem yesterday. In order to
> downgrade X, I booted to single
> > user mode, purged all X related packages, changed sid
> to testing in
> > /etc/apt/sources.list file and installed X again.
> > Since the problem appeared after upgrading
> xserver-common, xserver-xephyr and
> > xserver-xorg-core to version 1.6.4-1, I assume you
> really don't need to purge
> > all X related packages, just these three.
> > 
> 
> A lot of people seem to have been bitten by this one. It
> hit me
> yesterday on my Thinkpad Z61M (quite similar to the T60). I
> then
> remembered that I'd just upgraded xserver-common and
> xserver-xorg-core.
> Fortunately both earlier versions were still in the cache
> so I
> downgraded both (not being sure which was the culprit) and
> X came back
> to life. From another post on this list it seems it would
> be necessary
> to go back to lenny for an earlier version if you no longer
> have it in
> the cache.

Thank you to everyone who responded!!!

To solve this i remove xserver-common and xserver-xorg-core, swittched from Sid 
back to Testing in my sources.list, and reinstalled.

And it worked right away (not counting another problem that was just my 
stupidity).

In response to the people who said i shouldnt run Sid on an important system, 
Id say that its been working fine for me all along. 
There have been a few times when Ive messed things up but this has always been 
because i wasnt paying attention. 
But on its own, Sid has been totally stable. And Ive sometimes wanted newer 
packages

My big mistake here was to upgrade right before a presentation. Otherwise i 
would have been able to figure things out without panicing. And I should have 
been able to figure this out anyway!!!

This time Im bringing an Ubuntu LiveCD with me, Just-In-Case.

Thanks again.

Jen


  


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Re: X crashing after upgrade: urgent!

2009-09-30 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-09-30 09:51 +0200, Anthony Campbell wrote:

> A lot of people seem to have been bitten by this one. It hit me
> yesterday on my Thinkpad Z61M (quite similar to the T60). I then
> remembered that I'd just upgraded xserver-common and xserver-xorg-core.
> Fortunately both earlier versions were still in the cache so I
> downgraded both (not being sure which was the culprit) and X came back
> to life. From another post on this list it seems it would be necessary
> to go back to lenny for an earlier version if you no longer have it in
> the cache.

There is no reason to go back to Lenny, which is quite risky anyway
since it involves downgrading many packages.  Just downgrade
xserver-xorg-core to the Squeeze (not Lenny!) version.

Sven


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Re: X crashing after upgrade: urgent!

2009-09-30 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 30 Sep 2009, mihkel wrote:
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> 
> Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum kirjutas:
> > I am willing to downgrade X but dont know how to do this. Or if it will 
> > help.
> 
> I had the same problem yesterday. In order to downgrade X, I booted to single
> user mode, purged all X related packages, changed sid to testing in
> /etc/apt/sources.list file and installed X again.
> Since the problem appeared after upgrading xserver-common, xserver-xephyr and
> xserver-xorg-core to version 1.6.4-1, I assume you really don't need to purge
> all X related packages, just these three.
> 

A lot of people seem to have been bitten by this one. It hit me
yesterday on my Thinkpad Z61M (quite similar to the T60). I then
remembered that I'd just upgraded xserver-common and xserver-xorg-core.
Fortunately both earlier versions were still in the cache so I
downgraded both (not being sure which was the culprit) and X came back
to life. From another post on this list it seems it would be necessary
to go back to lenny for an earlier version if you no longer have it in
the cache.

Anthony

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Re: X crashing after upgrade: urgent!

2009-09-29 Thread mihkel
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Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum kirjutas:
> I am willing to downgrade X but dont know how to do this. Or if it will help.

I had the same problem yesterday. In order to downgrade X, I booted to single
user mode, purged all X related packages, changed sid to testing in
/etc/apt/sources.list file and installed X again.
Since the problem appeared after upgrading xserver-common, xserver-xephyr and
xserver-xorg-core to version 1.6.4-1, I assume you really don't need to purge
all X related packages, just these three.

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Re: X crashing after upgrade: urgent!

2009-09-29 Thread Mark Goldshtein
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum
 wrote:
> Hi. Im running Sid on a Thinkpad T60, and recently rebooted my machine after 
> having done several updates recently. I now find that X is crashing hard on 
> boot, rendering the system unusabler.

As already mentioned here, you are brave to run Sid on working laptop.
Unfortunately, it is a testing branch of Debian and it is supposed to
be like that.

> But my system doesnt crash randomly, it wont even start in the first place.

So, the 'system wont even start' you mean X.org does not working properly?

> I reinstalled all xorg modules, and the mesa libraries (someone in that 
> thread suggested this) but it still crashes in the same way. Im not using a 
> config file, i just use the automatic one, and i dont want to do anything 
> fancy.

If you are using T60 laptop, probably you have ATI video card. Well,
you have an option to completely change a driver for another one.
There are few drivers for ATI.

> I am supposed to give a presentation tomorrow with this laptop and its the 
> only one i have so Im DESPERATE to get this resolve

I tnink, first of all, you should secure you work situation. I am
suggesting you to download Ubuntu 9.04. Your laptop should work fine
with that desktop system.

Try it as a LiveCD system first. At least, you may try to make a
bootable USB stick with Ubuntu 9.04 and probably it will have enough
speed to show your presentation even without being Ubuntu installed on
your hard drive. In most cases, you will have an access to your data
on your laptop's hard drive. Mind the permissions.

Or, you may repartition your hard drive and install Ubuntu on it and
have dual boot laptop.

IMHO, for the future, you should have dual boot option, if you want to
play with testing distribution. If you want Debian, you should have
current 'stable' - Lenny and 'testing' - Sid.

Well, Good luck!

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Re: X crashing after upgrade: urgent!

2009-09-29 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:11:29 -0700 (PDT) "Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum"
 shared this with us all:

>Hi. Im running Sid on a Thinkpad T60, and recently rebooted my machine
>after having done several updates recently. I now find that X is
>crashing hard on boot, rendering the system unusabler. My Xorg log
>shows the same backtrace thats reported in this thread:
>
>http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-user/369120-x-server-hangs-debian-squeeze-after-upgrade.html
>
>But my system doesnt crash randomly, it wont even start in the first
>place.
>
>I reinstalled all xorg modules, and the mesa libraries (someone in
>that thread suggested this) but it still crashes in the same way. Im
>not using a config file, i just use the automatic one, and i dont want
>to do anything fancy.
>
>I am supposed to give a presentation tomorrow with this laptop and its
>the only one i have so Im DESPERATE to get this resolve 
>
>Would be very very grateful for any help at all!
>
>I am willing to downgrade X but dont know how to do this. Or if it
>will help.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Jen

Sorry I'm unable to help you. 

But think you're very brave to use Sid on a machine you rely. I
consider myself foolhardy running testing on a lappy I rely on.

Hope someone can help you as quickly as you require.

Be well,
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X crashing after upgrade: urgent!

2009-09-29 Thread Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum
Hi. Im running Sid on a Thinkpad T60, and recently rebooted my machine after 
having done several updates recently. I now find that X is crashing hard on 
boot, rendering the system unusabler. My Xorg log shows the same backtrace 
thats reported in this thread:

http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-user/369120-x-server-hangs-debian-squeeze-after-upgrade.html

But my system doesnt crash randomly, it wont even start in the first place.

I reinstalled all xorg modules, and the mesa libraries (someone in that thread 
suggested this) but it still crashes in the same way. Im not using a config 
file, i just use the automatic one, and i dont want to do anything fancy.

I am supposed to give a presentation tomorrow with this laptop and its the only 
one i have so Im DESPERATE to get this resolve 

Would be very very grateful for any help at all!

I am willing to downgrade X but dont know how to do this. Or if it will help.

Thanks!

Jen


  


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