Re: x-window startup and other problems

2005-09-22 Thread Andrej Repisky

I entered 'aptitude install x-window-system' and something started, but 
attempts to connect ftp.sk.debian.org failed. That's why the packages were not 
installed. I thought it was because of some drop out of debian servers, so I 
tried today again, but it was the same. 
Probably there's something with network settings, because I tried also 'ssh 
some  host' and it didn't work. But the installation went allright from the 
network. Thank you for your help.
Andrej 


On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 06:29:35PM +0200, Mariusz Kruk wrote:
 I don't use aptitude, so I'm not sure what the status letters mean, but
 'i' looks like installed.
 Anyway, do the programs work if you provide the shell with the complete
 path (/usr/bin/gcc, for example)?
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Re: x-window startup and other problems

2005-09-22 Thread Kent West
Andrej Repisky wrote:

I entered 'aptitude install x-window-system' and something started, but 
attempts to connect ftp.sk.debian.org failed. That's why the packages were not 
installed. I thought it was because of some drop out of debian servers, so I 
tried today again, but it was the same. 
Probably there's something with network settings, because I tried also 'ssh 
some  host' and it didn't work. But the installation went allright from the 
network. Thank you for your help.

  

So you're saying that your network does not work?

What's the result of ifconfig?
Can you ping anything by name?
By number?

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x-window startup and other problems

2005-09-21 Thread Andrej Repisky
Hello,

I have encountered the following problem after installation of Debian 
i386 on a computer. For istallation I used CD that I had prepares using an 
image from the debian website. 
Most of the commands do not work. For example links, lynx, gcc and so 
on. But if I run aptitude, I see gcc-3.3 or something among the devel packages. 
Why doesn't the command gcc work, then?
Another example is graphics -- X window. There is KDE and gnome among 
packages, but the command startx is not recognized. 
This was my first GNU/Linux installation and I'm not very experianced, 
you may advise me another mailing list if you feel annoyed by my e-mails.

Andrej


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Re: x-window startup and other problems

2005-09-21 Thread Mariusz Kruk

Andrej Repisky napisał(a):

Hello,

	I have encountered the following problem after installation of Debian i386 on a computer. For istallation I used CD that I had prepares using an image from the debian website. 
	Most of the commands do not work. For example links, lynx, gcc and so on. But if I run aptitude, I see gcc-3.3 or something among the devel packages. Why doesn't the command gcc work, then?
	Another example is graphics -- X window. There is KDE and gnome among packages, but the command startx is not recognized. 
	This was my first GNU/Linux installation and I'm not very experianced, you may advise me another mailing list if you feel annoyed by my e-mails.


Did you actually install the needed packages, or do you see them only as 
available for install?



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Re: x-window startup and other problems

2005-09-21 Thread Kent West
Mariusz Kruk wrote:

 Andrej Repisky napisał(a):

 Hello,

 I have encountered the following problem after installation of
 Debian i386 on a computer. For istallation I used CD that I had
 prepares using an image from the debian website. Most of the
 commands do not work. For example links, lynx, gcc and so on. But if
 I run aptitude, I see gcc-3.3 or something among the devel packages.
 Why doesn't the command gcc work, then?
 Another example is graphics -- X window. There is KDE and gnome
 among packages, but the command startx is not recognized. This
 was my first GNU/Linux installation and I'm not very experianced, you
 may advise me another mailing list if you feel annoyed by my e-mails.


 Did you actually install the needed packages, or do you see them only
 as available for install?


Yes, your email does not make that clear.

Try aptitude install lynx links gcc x-window-system and see what that
does for you.

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Re: x-window startup and other problems

2005-09-21 Thread Mike McCarty

Antony Gelberg wrote:


I think that whenever somebody installs an OS, he should read the
manual.  You need to read the Debian Reference.  http://www.debian.org/doc


And I always think it's tacky when the official support website
has link rot.

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Re: x-window startup and other problems

2005-09-21 Thread Antony Gelberg
Sorry for the top post, blame this fricking Blackberry. I think there is 
awareness that the documentation and access to it, could be better.  I have 
raised a bug against www.debian.org to this end.

May I suggest that you raise a bug for the breakage, or better still, submit a 
patch?

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Antony Gelberg wrote:

 I think that whenever somebody installs an OS, he should read the
 manual.  You need to read the Debian Reference.  http://www.debian.org/doc

And I always think it's tacky when the official support website
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Re: X session startup/shutdown scripts?

2005-06-18 Thread Almut Behrens
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 07:04:28AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 I am using GDM and have need for some things to start up and shut down
 based on me logging into/out of my X session.  I've done a basic check of
 documentation but unless I am missing some DEEP MAGIC I didn't find anything
 too fit the bill.  I figured I'd ask here before I cracked open my Python book
 to solve it that way.  :D

Maybe you've already opened your Python book by now... :)
Anyhow, there are usually various related files below
/etc/display-manager/.  gdm(8) states that

   ... When a user logs in, gdm first attempts
   /etc/gdm/PreSession/display (or /etc/gdm/PreSes
   sion/Default), and then one of the sessions in
   /etc/gdm/Sessions. When the session has completed, gdm
   attempts to run /etc/gdm/PostSession/display, or
   /etc/gdm/PostSession/Default. Of all these files, only the
   /etc/gdm/Sessions one is required to exist.

Have you played around with these already?

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X session startup/shutdown scripts?

2005-06-16 Thread Steve Lamb
I am using GDM and have need for some things to start up and shut down
based on me logging into/out of my X session.  I've done a basic check of
documentation but unless I am missing some DEEP MAGIC I didn't find anything
too fit the bill.  I figured I'd ask here before I cracked open my Python book
to solve it that way.  :D
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X-Windows startup issue!

2004-09-02 Thread Will Ness
Whew!! It was tough but I finally figured it out! Anyways here is a copy of 
the error file that X-Windows created when it couldn't start up. If anyone 
could help me, that would awesome. TIA!!

-Will
Hardware Info:
Ati Rage 128 Pro Ultra AGP (I believe it has 64 mb of video memory)
Dell monitor (generic)
  supports a max of 800X600 at 60 mhz
Have another Monitor
an HP Pavillion v70s
supports a max of 1024X768 at 75 mhz
would like to have X-Windows work on both (is this acceptable to linux?)
Thanks!!
P.S- Oh yeah I forgot, It will only allow me to run 'startx' as root, is 
there anyway to make it, so I can run 'startx' as a normal user? TIA!!


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X: unable to open wrapper config file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
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Module Loader present
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Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Sep  2 11:33:48 2004
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o:  No
symbols found
Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_norm.o:  No
symbols found
Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_xform.o:  
No
symbols found
Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_vertex.o:  
No
symbols found
(EE) Failed to load module pex5 (module does not exist, 0)
Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a:spencode.o:  No symbols
found
(EE) Failed to load module xie (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device
(EE) R128(0): Failed to open framebuffer device, consult warnings and/or 
errors
above for possible reasons
	(you may have to look at the server log to see warnings)
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
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Re: X-Windows startup issue!

2004-09-02 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 04:23:52PM +, Will Ness wrote:
 Whew!! It was tough but I finally figured it out! Anyways here is a copy of 
 the error file that X-Windows created when it couldn't start up. If anyone 
 could help me, that would awesome. TIA!!
 
 -Will
 
 Hardware Info:
 
 Ati Rage 128 Pro Ultra AGP (I believe it has 64 mb of video memory)
 
 Dell monitor (generic)
 
   supports a max of 800X600 at 60 mhz
 
 Have another Monitor
 
 an HP Pavillion v70s
 
 supports a max of 1024X768 at 75 mhz
 
 would like to have X-Windows work on both (is this acceptable to linux?)
 
 Thanks!!
 
 P.S- Oh yeah I forgot, It will only allow me to run 'startx' as root, is 
 there anyway to make it, so I can run 'startx' as a normal user? TIA!!
 
 
 
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 X: unable to open wrapper config file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
 X: warning; process set to priority -1 instead of requested priority 0
Xwrapper.config is missing?

Mine is:
### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# Do not edit within this region if you want your changes to be preserved by
# debconf.  Instead, make changes after the ### END DEBCONF SECTION line.
allowed_users=console
nice_value=-10
### END DEBCONF SECTION

Maybe if you create Xwrapper.config with that content it will work. It
should have been created by the X install (is X configured?).

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 way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
 please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
 (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs).
 
 XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1 (Debian 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6 20040707142024
 [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Release Date: 15 August 2003
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
 Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.23 i686 [ELF]
 Build Date: 07 July 2004
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   to make sure that you have the latest version.
 Module Loader present
 OS Kernel: Linux version 2.2.20-idepci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 
 2.7.2.3)
Are you trying to run a Sarge Xfree on Woody?

 #1 Sat Apr 20 12:45:19 EST 2002 TF
 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
 (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Sep  2 11:33:48 2004
 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
 Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o:  No
 symbols found
 Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_norm.o:  No
 symbols found
 Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_xform.o:  
 No
 symbols found
 Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_vertex.o:  
 No
 symbols found
 (EE) Failed to load module pex5 (module does not exist, 0)
 Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a:spencode.o:  No symbols
 found
 (EE) Failed to load module xie (module does not exist, 0)
 (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device
 (EE) R128(0): Failed to open framebuffer device, consult warnings and/or 
 errors
 above for possible reasons
   (you may have to look at the server log to see warnings)
 (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
 
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
In your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file, you will find something like this:
Section Device
Identifier  Generic Video Card
Driver  vesa
#   BusID   PCI:1:0:0
#   Option  UseFBDev  true
EndSection

Try changing the word after Driver to vesa.
IfFailure: Try vga16

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Re: X-Windows startup issue!

2004-09-02 Thread Will Ness
Sweet it worked!!! You are my hero!!! I have been trying to get this to 
work, like FOREVER!! One more quick question: Where in the x-windows setup 
do you tell it to start kde instead of gnome?

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Re: X-Windows startup issue!

2004-09-02 Thread Thomas Adam
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 09:31:29PM +, Will Ness wrote:
 Sweet it worked!!! You are my hero!!! I have been trying to get this to 
 work, like FOREVER!! One more quick question: Where in the x-windows setup 
 do you tell it to start kde instead of gnome?

update-alternatives --config x-window-manager

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Re: X-Windows startup issue!

2004-09-02 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 11:18:58PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 09:31:29PM +, Will Ness wrote:
  Sweet it worked!!! You are my hero!!! I have been trying to get this to 
  work, like FOREVER!! One more quick question: Where in the x-windows setup 
  do you tell it to start kde instead of gnome?
 
 update-alternatives --config x-window-manager

Do you mean/want:
update-alternatives --config x-session-manager

GNOME can use Sawfish, Enlightenment, Fvwm2, etc...
I don't use KDE, but I doubt it is locked into a single WM either.

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X/KDE startup problem.

2003-09-05 Thread Walt L. Williams
Greetings

I have loaded a Debian 3.0r1 on a alternate machine with a very similar
graphics card (An ATI Rage 128) as my main machine. I want to learn 
about Debian before I migrate to it from my current distro. I have to keep 
a usable machine for my college work. (Computer Science student.)

I got it all loaded and on boot up I get a graphical login screen, which
would indicate to me that the X server itself is working. I try to login as 
root (as I don't as yet have a user account on this machine.) and load 
KDE, which is my prefered GUI. It seems to start to load KDE but I end 
up back at the graphical login screen. 
 
I have started dselect and have loaded everything that I can find the 
pertains to KDE but with no success. I also tried loging in using another
selection of GUI and it starts. (Gnome is just not my cup of tea, sorry.)

Has anyone else seen this problem? Is there an error log that I can 
view and get an idea of what is going on? 

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: X question, startup

2002-09-26 Thread Oki DZ

On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 06:59:41AM +, Alexander Koch wrote:
 b) with gdm it will start, but with no borders around the
 windows, it just won't work out.

It seems that you didn't have a window manager running.
 
 What is the right thing to do with gdm, do I need .xinitrc
 or .xsession or both?

I have
gnome-session
in ~/.xsession
 
 I would like to have ssh-agent running for real, wmaker and
 gnome-session. What do I have to put there and in what
 order? wmaker's README.Debian says I should only exec
 /usr/bin/X11/wmaker, the gnome-session README.Debian says I
 should only amp out wmaker and then exec gnome-session.

You can try xinit, and then when the xterm pops up:
wmaker 
panel 

Then you can set the default window manager to wmaker using the Control
Center.
 
 Argh? It has been tough enough to even start using X at
 all, the console just worked...

Imagine a time where you can tell your friends about setting up X, or
help one of them to doing the same. Or just _telling_ stuff in this
list...

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Re: X in startup

2001-01-05 Thread N. Raghavendra
On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:36:36AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

 on Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:20:47AM +0530, N. Raghavendra
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  
  What I have been doing to stop /etc/init.d/ scripts (like
  xdm) from being executed at bootup is to put the line exit 0
  at the top of the file (as the first uncommented line). This
  makes the script neatly exit without doing anything.
 
 I've been known to do this, but I prefer to add an echo to
 indicate that this is the case.  Scripts which silently fail
 can be annoying.  E.g.:
 
 echo Not starting foo; exit 0

Hi,

Thanks for the tip. It is certainly neater.

Best,
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Re: X in startup

2001-01-04 Thread kmself
on Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:20:47AM +0530, N. Raghavendra ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:23:30AM -0800, Xucaen wrote:
 
  does this disable X? what if you still want to run X from the
  command line using startx?
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   after booting up press ctrlalt F1 to go into a console
   terminal.  logon as root.  cd /etc/rc2.d rm S??xdm  # or just
   move it, if you dont want to delete it  shutdown -r now
   worked for me this morning, anyway.
 
 Hi,
 
 What I have been doing to stop /etc/init.d/ scripts (like xdm)
 from being executed at bootup is to put the line
   exit 0
 at the top of the file (as the first uncommented line). This
 makes the script neatly exit without doing anything.

I've been known to do this, but I prefer to add an echo to indicate that
this is the case.  Scripts which silently fail can be annoying.  E.g.:

echo Not starting foo; exit 0

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X in startup

2001-01-03 Thread Xucaen
does this disable X? what if you still want to
run X from the command line using startx? 
(i'm asking because I don't have X installed
right now, but will in a few weeks..)
thanks!!

xucaen
--- David Turner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 after booting up press ctrlalt F1 to go
 into a console terminal.
 
 logon as root.
 
 cd /etc/rc2.d
 
 rm S??xdm  # or just move it, if you dont want
 to delete it
 
 shutdown -r now
 
 worked for me this morning, anyway.
 
 
 
 
 david
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Schuetz
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 03 January 2001 15:11
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: X-windows in startup
 
 
 I had unsuccessfully configured X, set it aside
 for a day. Rebooted the
 machine, only to have X start automatically.
 Problem is, X isn't working
 beyond letting me enter username/password. 
 
 C-ALT-D only gets me back to the initial GUI
 login! IS there a way to escape
 out of this during the boot process? 
 
 
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RE: X in startup

2001-01-03 Thread David Turner
nope doesnt disable X just prevents it from starting automatically as part
of the INIT process of linux.

read the article http://www.egroups.com/files/newbieDoc/runlevels-intro.html
mentioned on this list earlier today for more info.

so startx should work fine (if you have setup your config files properly)

cheers,



david

ps i dont know why my last posting appeared twice... is this my fault or a
problem with list server

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Sent: 03 January 2001 17:25
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: X in startup


does this disable X? what if you still want to
run X from the command line using startx? 
(i'm asking because I don't have X installed
right now, but will in a few weeks..)
thanks!!

xucaen
--- David Turner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 after booting up press ctrlalt F1 to go
 into a console terminal.
 
 logon as root.
 
 cd /etc/rc2.d
 
 rm S??xdm  # or just move it, if you dont want
 to delete it
 
 shutdown -r now
 
 worked for me this morning, anyway.
 
 
 
 
 david
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Schuetz
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 Sent: 03 January 2001 15:11
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: X-windows in startup
 
 
 I had unsuccessfully configured X, set it aside
 for a day. Rebooted the
 machine, only to have X start automatically.
 Problem is, X isn't working
 beyond letting me enter username/password. 
 
 C-ALT-D only gets me back to the initial GUI
 login! IS there a way to escape
 out of this during the boot process? 
 
 
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Re: X in startup

2001-01-03 Thread matthschulz
I usually rename just the (in my case kdm) /etc/init.d/xdm into 
/etc/init.d/xdm.bak.  It mkes a lot easier to bring everything back into the 
old status. 

/etc/init.d/xdm stopwill shutdown xdm without rebooting.

Matth

On Mittwoch,  3. Januar 2001 11:40, David Turner wrote:
 nope doesnt disable X just prevents it from starting automatically as part
 of the INIT process of linux.

 read the article
 http://www.egroups.com/files/newbieDoc/runlevels-intro.html mentioned on
 this list earlier today for more info.

 so startx should work fine (if you have setup your config files properly)

 cheers,



 david

 ps i dont know why my last posting appeared twice... is this my fault or a
 problem with list server

 -Original Message-
 From: Xucaen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 03 January 2001 17:25
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: X in startup


 does this disable X? what if you still want to
 run X from the command line using startx?
 (i'm asking because I don't have X installed
 right now, but will in a few weeks..)
 thanks!!

 xucaen
 --- David Turner

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  after booting up press ctrlalt F1 to go
  into a console terminal.
 
  logon as root.
 
  cd /etc/rc2.d
 
  rm S??xdm  # or just move it, if you dont want
  to delete it
 
  shutdown -r now
 
  worked for me this morning, anyway.
 
 
 
 
  david
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tom Schuetz
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 03 January 2001 15:11
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: X-windows in startup
 
 
  I had unsuccessfully configured X, set it aside
  for a day. Rebooted the
  machine, only to have X start automatically.
  Problem is, X isn't working
  beyond letting me enter username/password.
 
  C-ALT-D only gets me back to the initial GUI
  login! IS there a way to escape
  out of this during the boot process?
 
 
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Re: X in startup

2001-01-03 Thread N. Raghavendra
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:23:30AM -0800, Xucaen wrote:

 does this disable X? what if you still want to run X from the
 command line using startx?
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  after booting up press ctrlalt F1 to go into a console
  terminal.  logon as root.  cd /etc/rc2.d rm S??xdm  # or just
  move it, if you dont want to delete it  shutdown -r now
  worked for me this morning, anyway.

Hi,

What I have been doing to stop /etc/init.d/ scripts (like xdm)
from being executed at bootup is to put the line
exit 0
at the top of the file (as the first uncommented line). This
makes the script neatly exit without doing anything.

Cheers,
Raghavendra.

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X Windows Startup

1998-09-18 Thread Andy Bierlair




Hello

I am a new Linux user in Debian 2.0

i wanted to install a few things including X 
WIndows. i can enter the XWIN setup in the beginning and set up screen, graphic 
card, etc...
now debian wanted to launch X WINdows once again, and then i 
got my problem ! The whole stuff is hanging. i can still see the Prompt, but my 
screen is always changing colors from black to white. i cannot break it. i 
cannot even start a new session with ALT-F2. it sure shows me my new session, 
but i cannot type in it. so now i'm very helpless and i don't know what to do 
now !
I also had the same problem in Debian 1.3.1. so far i 
could never get X FREE running..
i cannot set up anything on my computer now, because it 
launches automatically X WINDOWSmaybe you want to know a few devices on 
my computer

i have a VIPER 330 video card, a DEAWOO 15 
screen
an AMD K6 200 MHZ with 96 Megs RAM

could you please help me to get windows running ?

thank you very much !

Andy Bierlair


Re: X Windows Startup

1998-09-18 Thread John Larkin
Andy Bierlair wrote
 i wanted to install a few things including X WIndows. i can enter
 the XWIN setup in the beginning and set up screen, graphic card,
 etc...  now debian wanted to launch X WINdows once again, and then i
 got my problem ! The whole stuff is hanging. i can still see the
 Prompt, but my screen is always changing colors from black to
 white. i cannot break it. i cannot even start a new session with
 ALT-F2. it sure shows me my new session, but i cannot type in it. so
 now i'm very helpless and i don't know what to do now !  I also had
 the same problem in Debian 1.3.1.  so far i could never get X FREE
 running..  i cannot set up anything on my computer now, because
 it launches automatically X WINDOWS

What's going on: you're running xdm, which automatically re-starts the
X server when it dies.  This can be very bad indeed if your X server
dies right after starting up.  xdm starts the X server, X server dies,
xdm starts the X server, ... towards infinity.

To fix this: you don't want xdm to start up on boot (at least for
now), or you'll get the above mentioned problem.  If you boot from
lilo, at the LILO: prompt (which will come up if you hit ctrl or alt
or tab before the kernel loads), type in the image name followed by
the word single (w/out quotes).  If you don't know the image name,
at the LILO: prompt, hit the tab key for a listing.  Probably, there
will be only one if you're on a new system (and maybe another one for
DOS).  
This will bring up a root shell, and not load most of your programs.
Look at the file /etc/X11/xdm/config  (I _think_ this is the right
file -- I don't have my debian system in front of me now so I'm
getting all this from memory).  There should be a line in this text
file which is something like start-xdm-on-boot.  Comment this line
out (put any character in front of it, probably a # to make it look
like a shell comment).  This will stop xdm from loading.
Hit ctrl-d to exit the root shell, and your system should continue
booting in a normal manner.

Ok, you still need to fix the X server problem -- it should not die as
soon as you start it.  There are multiple reasons why this can happen.
Look in the file /var/log/xdm-errors to see why X died.  Common
reasons:
- there are no valid video modes.  Make sure your monitor spec's are
entered correctly in /etc/X11/XF86Config.
- Can't find any fonts.  Make sure the font path (in XF86Config)
actually point to fonts you have.  Make sure the font packages are
installed. 
- I'm sure there are more, but I can't think of them right now.




Good luck!

John