Re: X-windows hosed! Solved

2001-09-11 Thread Erik Steffl
Dale Morris wrote:
 
 On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Erik Steffl wrote:
 
  Dale Morris wrote:
  
   Yesterday I built the 2.4-9 kernel. The box crashed for no apparent
   reason and now I just did an apt-get upgrade and destroyed Xwindows.
   Here's what I think is wrong. I was trying to get true type fonts
   working a while back and had problems with XF86Config. So I went to
   the XFree86 download site and ran ./install -check script and
   downloaded and installed all the necessary files to upgrade me to
   4.0.3. Everything worked fine until today when I tried to upgrade
   (have done so successfully in the past) and apt tried to install
   XServer and Xserver-svga and numerous other Xpackages I don't
   remember. Then it exited with an error. I tried removing (didn't work)
   Xwindows and installing x-window-system (didn't work) and ended up
   with lots of error messages. Any way out of this short of a reinstall?
 
well, check the error messages.
 It worked after I removed the offending files I did option to install
 the package maintainers version of all the new .deb configuration
 files. Only thing is now the menus don't work properly..

  not work in what way?

  did you try update-menus?

  try to check at least few window managers to see if all of them or
just some of them are screwed up.

btw why would you run install scripts from XFree86 download site? The
  X 4.x is in debian and you can use the ttf straight out of the box
  (don't even need the font server (if you don't want to serve fonts for
  other machines))
 I don't remember now, for some reason it wouldn't work and I was in a
 try anything mode. It seems I have to have a certain amount of
 frustration in my life.

  well, ok.

erik



X-windows hosed!

2001-09-10 Thread Dale Morris
Yesterday I built the 2.4-9 kernel. The box crashed for no apparent
reason and now I just did an apt-get upgrade and destroyed Xwindows.
Here's what I think is wrong. I was trying to get true type fonts
working a while back and had problems with XF86Config. So I went to
the XFree86 download site and ran ./install -check script and
downloaded and installed all the necessary files to upgrade me to
4.0.3. Everything worked fine until today when I tried to upgrade
(have done so successfully in the past) and apt tried to install
XServer and Xserver-svga and numerous other Xpackages I don't
remember. Then it exited with an error. I tried removing (didn't work)
Xwindows and installing x-window-system (didn't work) and ended up
with lots of error messages. Any way out of this short of a reinstall?

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Re: X-windows hosed!

2001-09-10 Thread Erik Steffl
Dale Morris wrote:
 
 Yesterday I built the 2.4-9 kernel. The box crashed for no apparent
 reason and now I just did an apt-get upgrade and destroyed Xwindows.
 Here's what I think is wrong. I was trying to get true type fonts
 working a while back and had problems with XF86Config. So I went to
 the XFree86 download site and ran ./install -check script and
 downloaded and installed all the necessary files to upgrade me to
 4.0.3. Everything worked fine until today when I tried to upgrade
 (have done so successfully in the past) and apt tried to install
 XServer and Xserver-svga and numerous other Xpackages I don't
 remember. Then it exited with an error. I tried removing (didn't work)
 Xwindows and installing x-window-system (didn't work) and ended up
 with lots of error messages. Any way out of this short of a reinstall?

  well, check the error messages.

  if that doesn't help, post the most important ones (usually the first
ones) and other relevant info here.

  also - how did you try to remove it? (there might be some more
'forceful' commands than the ones you used)

  btw why would you run install scripts from XFree86 download site? The
X 4.x is in debian and you can use the ttf straight out of the box
(don't even need the font server (if you don't want to serve fonts for
other machines))

erik



Re: X-windows hosed! Solved

2001-09-10 Thread Dale Morris
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Erik Steffl wrote:

 Dale Morris wrote:
  
  Yesterday I built the 2.4-9 kernel. The box crashed for no apparent
  reason and now I just did an apt-get upgrade and destroyed Xwindows.
  Here's what I think is wrong. I was trying to get true type fonts
  working a while back and had problems with XF86Config. So I went to
  the XFree86 download site and ran ./install -check script and
  downloaded and installed all the necessary files to upgrade me to
  4.0.3. Everything worked fine until today when I tried to upgrade
  (have done so successfully in the past) and apt tried to install
  XServer and Xserver-svga and numerous other Xpackages I don't
  remember. Then it exited with an error. I tried removing (didn't work)
  Xwindows and installing x-window-system (didn't work) and ended up
  with lots of error messages. Any way out of this short of a reinstall?
 
   well, check the error messages.
It worked after I removed the offending files I did option to install
the package maintainers version of all the new .deb configuration
files. Only thing is now the menus don't work properly..
 
   btw why would you run install scripts from XFree86 download site? The
 X 4.x is in debian and you can use the ttf straight out of the box
 (don't even need the font server (if you don't want to serve fonts for
 other machines))
I don't remember now, for some reason it wouldn't work and I was in a
try anything mode. It seems I have to have a certain amount of
frustration in my life.

thanks for your help!

dale



X is hosed

1998-09-07 Thread Alan Eugene Davis

I stuck my neck out and upgraded X11 to the packages in slink.  Just
previous to that I had upgraded wmaker to 0.19.1-1, also new on slink.
At first, wmaker crashed the session.  I purged wmaker.  

Now, for some reason I cannot fathom, xdm starts but when a user logs
in, the session crashes.  Root can log in ok.  Root can use startx,
but a user cannot.  

Looks like permissions.  Permissions of WHAT?

I now downgraded back to the X11 packages in hamm, but the same
problem persists.  

I still don't understand what wmaker did.  I upgraded the libraries,
and installed wmaker libs too.  That's one of the last things I did
before this happened.

Thank you for any help.

Alan Davis


Re: X is hosed

1998-09-07 Thread M.C. Vernon

 
 I stuck my neck out and upgraded X11 to the packages in slink.  Just
 previous to that I had upgraded wmaker to 0.19.1-1, also new on slink.
 At first, wmaker crashed the session.  I purged wmaker.  
 
 Now, for some reason I cannot fathom, xdm starts but when a user logs
 in, the session crashes.  Root can log in ok.  Root can use startx,
 but a user cannot.  
 
 Looks like permissions.  Permissions of WHAT?
 
 I now downgraded back to the X11 packages in hamm, but the same
 problem persists.  
 
 I still don't understand what wmaker did.  I upgraded the libraries,
 and installed wmaker libs too.  That's one of the last things I did
 before this happened.

I'm not quite sure about this, but:

a) do you now have no wmaker at all?
b) is your x config such that it tries to launch wmaker

If both of these are yes, then that is the problem.

Install wmaker again (hamm version), or change ? /etc/Xsession or
.xsession  to fire up something else


HTH,

Matthew


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Re: X is hosed

1998-09-07 Thread Robert Wilderspin
On 7 Sep 98 14:34:34 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I stuck my neck out and upgraded X11 to the packages in slink.  Just
previous to that I had upgraded wmaker to 0.19.1-1, also new on slink.
At first, wmaker crashed the session.  I purged wmaker.  

Now, for some reason I cannot fathom, xdm starts but when a user logs
in, the session crashes.  Root can log in ok.  Root can use startx,
but a user cannot.  

Looks like permissions.  Permissions of WHAT?

Upgrade xlib6g to the latest version.  Wmaker has a problem with the
old one such that it crashes immediately (after xdm has finished).

I now downgraded back to the X11 packages in hamm, but the same
problem persists.  

I still don't understand what wmaker did.  I upgraded the libraries,
and installed wmaker libs too.  That's one of the last things I did
before this happened.

It sounds like your system is still trying to run wmaker, and so still
crashing.  Edit your user's ~/.xsession file and comment out the line
which loads wmaker.  And replace it with a different manager,
preferably.

I'd suggest giving wmaker another try though, after upgrading xlib6g.


Rob Wilderspin
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