Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg synaptics touchpad problem?

2005-10-26 Thread Lubos Vrbka

Adam Porter wrote:

Was the kernel upgraded?  Check dmesg.  Is the kernel module getting
loaded?  Is it saying anything on boot?  All we know right now is that X
can't find it.
synaptics touchpad works fine on my acer travelmate with 2.6.12 kernel 
and xorg @ testing (i'm using the synaptics module in xorg). i don't 
recall any problems, even before using synaptics module in xorg. just 
worked as an ordinary mouse, iirc. i am not sure about the kernel 
config, the only thing related to *TOUCH* i could find is

CONFIG_INPUT_TOUCHSCREEN=y
that is recognized as
ts: Compaq touchscreen protocol output
however i don't know whether it's relevant in this case or not.

dmesg:
0x80471b/0x0Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 4.6, id: 0x925ea1, caps: 
0x80471b/0x0

input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad on isa0060/serio4

xorg (please note that module for synaptics provided by xfree86 is used; 
i realized it just now, but it works fine):

LoadModule: synaptics
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/synaptics_drv.o
(II) Module synaptics: vendor=The XFree86 Project
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver
ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.3
(II) LoadModule: synaptics
(II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/synaptics_drv.o
...
(II) Synaptics touchpad driver version 0.14.3
(--) touchpad auto-dev sets device to /dev/input/event2
(**) Option Device /dev/input/event2
(--) touchpad touchpad found
(**) Option CorePointer
(**) touchpad: Core Pointer

relevant part of xorg.conf (the device is detected by auto-dev):
Section InputDevice
Identifier  touchpad
Driver  synaptics
Option  CorePointer
#   Option  Device/dev/input/mouse0
Option  Protocol  auto-dev
Option  Emulate3Buttons   yes
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection

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Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg synaptics touchpad problem?

2005-10-25 Thread Adam Porter
Was the kernel upgraded?  Check dmesg.  Is the kernel module getting
loaded?  Is it saying anything on boot?  All we know right now is that X
can't find it.


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Re: Re: Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg synaptics touchpad problem?

2005-10-22 Thread Torsten Crass
BTW, I forgot to mention that I am using kernel 2.6.12.10...

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Re: Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg synaptics touchpad problem?

2005-10-21 Thread Torsten Crass
Hi there,

after doing a smart upgrade using Synaptic (yes, I am talking about
the package manager GUI here... ;-), I can't get *any* mouse-like device
to work on my ThinkPad T42... I am using Debian unstable with X.org, and
neither the nipple nor the synaptics touchpad are responding any more.
As for the touchpad, The X.org log says

(EE) Synaptics Touchpad no synaptic touchpad detected and no repeater device
(EE) Synaptics Touchpad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware
(EE) PreInit failed for input device Synaptics Touchpad

Any idea what might be wrong? I'd be more than happy if at least one
pointing device was functioning correctly. I actually prefer the
touchpad, but the nipple would be better than nothing...

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Re: X.Org Hits Testing

2005-09-12 Thread Bill Wohler
Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I did the upgrade, had to select xserver-xorg manually, ran
 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, answered the questions based on what was
 in my XF86Config file, ran startx and it all worked!  The fonts looked
 horrid so I copied the debconf lines into xorg,conf and reconfigured
 fontconfig to restore the anti-alias capability.  Everthing now looks
 and works the same as before.

 Very seamless and almost a non-event for such a major system upgrade.

Agreed.

I actually did a dist-upgrade from sarge to etch and actually got a
lot of sid as well including 2.6.12 (I mistakenly brought in gcc-4.0
in order to keep festival from being removed).

I did have to run aptitude dist-upgrade and apt-get install -f a
few times until the smoke cleared.

For some reason, /etc/init.d/cupsys was turned into some data file. An
apt-get --reinstall cupsys fixed that.

I haven't yet tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg since everything
worked and looked fine after the upgrade (other than the missing
custom Gnome menus that I mentioned in another email).

I was wondering if things were all right for the upgrade and crossed
my fingers. If you're considering the jump, I'd say go for it.

Kudos to the Debian maintainers who made it so.

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Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?

2005-09-11 Thread David E. Fox
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:39:58 -0300
Rogério Brito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm using X.org with a Matrox G400 card (monohead, AGP, 16MB of RAM,
 resolution of 1400x1050) and I have no problems like corrupted display.

Close enough, more or less, since I don't have two monitors, hence
I don't use xinerama  dualhead features. I'm more interested in whether
upping to X.org will assist / speed up 3d acceleration, which is
currently disabled, and whether that will assist something like
stellarium running, or if it's hopeless for that, and if I should get a
more friendly (for 3d) card. 

Movies are ok, as is any 2d stuff with the Matrox. 

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Re: X.Org Hits Testing

2005-09-10 Thread Rogério Brito
On Sep 09 2005, Rick Pasotto wrote:
 I noticed one thing: my onboard via video now has the xv extention and
 xine now plays, even full screen, without complaining about missing
 too many frames and using all the cpu.

The same thing here, but with an ATI Mach64 card. It now has xv support
and I don't have to grab the gatos driver to overwrite the xserver
anymore.

Kudos to the X developers for the new features and to the X maintainers,
for such a smooth transition.


Thanks, Rogério Brito.

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Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?

2005-09-10 Thread Rogério Brito
On Sep 09 2005, David E. Fox wrote:
 On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:12:17 +0200 Aurélien Campéas wrote:
  Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted 
  display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to 
 
 By any chance is your Matrox a Millenium G450? That's what I've been
 using now for about four years.

I'm using X.org with a Matrox G400 card (monohead, AGP, 16MB of RAM,
resolution of 1400x1050) and I have no problems like corrupted display.

 For the moment, I'm still using XFree from sarge. Is there a
 compelling reason to switch to X.org?

I sincerely don't know, for those using a Matrox card. OTOH, for the
Mach64 on my notebook, it now features the xv extension out of the box.

I just wish that this extension were supported also by the imstt card
that I have on an old PowerMac. Without it, watching any movie is almost
impossible, unfortunately. :-(


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Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?

2005-09-10 Thread Aurélien Campéas

David E. Fox a écrit :

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:12:17 +0200
Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Ben Pearre a écrit :


I'm very sorry for the possibly off-topic reply.

I have had one problem since my Unstable system went to Xorg, and I
don't know whether this is the place to air it.  Please forgive if
not.  If this is interesting, ask me for more info, as I've tried to
keep this brief:


[snip]

Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted 
display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to 



By any chance is your Matrox a Millenium G450? That's what I've been
using now for about four years. I had it working at one time with X.org
but that was back when I was using Mandrake. I also have been trying to
get the acceleration stuff working - but without success.


In fact it's a quite old MGA 1064SG. Maybe the support for this is 
fading as few people still use it.




For the moment, I'm still using XFree from sarge. Is there a compelling
reason to switch to X.org? 


The only compelling reason would be the end of xfree support for me.

Aurélien.


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Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?

2005-09-10 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Aurélien Campéas a écrit :

David E. Fox a écrit :


On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:12:17 +0200
Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted 
display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to 




By any chance is your Matrox a Millenium G450? That's what I've been
using now for about four years. I had it working at one time with X.org
but that was back when I was using Mandrake. I also have been trying to
get the acceleration stuff working - but without success.



In fact it's a quite old MGA 1064SG. Maybe the support for this is 
fading as few people still use it.




http://x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/mga.4.html says it should be supported however.


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Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?

2005-09-10 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Aurélien Campéas a écrit :

Aurélien Campéas a écrit :


David E. Fox a écrit :


On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:12:17 +0200
Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


[snip]

Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted 
display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to 





By any chance is your Matrox a Millenium G450? That's what I've been
using now for about four years. I had it working at one time with X.org
but that was back when I was using Mandrake. I also have been trying to
get the acceleration stuff working - but without success.




In fact it's a quite old MGA 1064SG. Maybe the support for this is 
fading as few people still use it.




http://x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/mga.4.html says it should be supported however.



http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=320328

says it is a known bug,
sorry for the noise :-|



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Re: X.Org Hits Testing

2005-09-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 9/8/05, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Don't know if this is appropriate. Anyway:
 
 I have Nvidia videocards and use the closedsource driver (7167).
 
 X.org with its eyecandy, for a non-gamer, brought the necessity of using
 driver options:
 
 Option  RenderAccel   true
 Option  AllowGLXWithComposite true
 
 When you do that it causes a tight loop in the server, as detailed here:
 http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=31858page=22pp=15highlight=loop
 
 So if you turn the options off the CPU hits 100% very soon upon using
 the candy options, regardless of what CPU you use.
 
 For myself that sort of finishes X.org, since I don't know what it
 offers beyond what XFree86 does for me.
 
 I'd be interested to know if anyone can use Nvidia driver with Nvidia
 cards and use the options but does not have the problem. And if so what
 mobo you use.

Thanks for posting that, Hugo.

I'm sure it's just a matter of time until this problem is fixed by
nVidia and/or X.org.  nVidia wants to sell their cards, and people
want eye candy, and people want Linux, so we probably just need (sigh)
some more patience.

I don't know if it's actual or the power of suggestion, but I've
noticed that the fonts with X.org look awfully nice.  I don't have a
screenshot to compare with XF86, but...  :)  And, anyway, it's the
future, so since it's working so well, why not go ahead and switch?



Re: X.Org Hits Testing

2005-09-09 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 9/8/05, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



snip



Thanks for posting that, Hugo.

I'm sure it's just a matter of time until this problem is fixed by
nVidia and/or X.org.  nVidia wants to sell their cards, and people
want eye candy, and people want Linux, so we probably just need (sigh)
some more patience.



snip

True, except this problem was first posted 7/12/04 and now has 23 pages 
of posts on their bulletin board. So it is more than a year old and 
shows no signs of being fixed in any of the latest drivers.


I myself am prevented from trying the very latest ones because of their 
nonsupport of legacy cards such as the TNT2 AGP that I have.


H


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Re: X.Org Hits Testing

2005-09-09 Thread Colin
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 I don't know if it's actual or the power of suggestion, but I've
 noticed that the fonts with X.org look awfully nice.  I don't have a
 screenshot to compare with XF86, but...  :)  And, anyway, it's the
 future, so since it's working so well, why not go ahead and switch?

I didn't notice one thing different when I upgraded to X.org yesterday, and
that's a good thing.  Everything seems to be working perfectly fine.  It's
damn near a miracle!  Thanks X Strike Force!


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Re: X.Org Hits Testing

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 07:47:59PM -0400, Colin wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I don't know if it's actual or the power of suggestion, but I've
  noticed that the fonts with X.org look awfully nice.  I don't have a
  screenshot to compare with XF86, but...  :)  And, anyway, it's the
  future, so since it's working so well, why not go ahead and switch?
 
 I didn't notice one thing different when I upgraded to X.org
 yesterday, and that's a good thing.  Everything seems to be working
 perfectly fine.  It's damn near a miracle!  Thanks X Strike Force!

I noticed one thing: my onboard via video now has the xv extention and
xine now plays, even full screen, without complaining about missing too
many frames and using all the cpu.

I love it!

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Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?

2005-09-09 Thread David E. Fox
On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:12:17 +0200
Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ben Pearre a écrit :
  I'm very sorry for the possibly off-topic reply.
  
  I have had one problem since my Unstable system went to Xorg, and I
  don't know whether this is the place to air it.  Please forgive if
  not.  If this is interesting, ask me for more info, as I've tried to
  keep this brief:
 
 [snip]
 
 Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted 
 display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to 

By any chance is your Matrox a Millenium G450? That's what I've been
using now for about four years. I had it working at one time with X.org
but that was back when I was using Mandrake. I also have been trying to
get the acceleration stuff working - but without success.

For the moment, I'm still using XFree from sarge. Is there a compelling
reason to switch to X.org? 

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Re: X.Org Hits Testing

2005-09-09 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On 9/9/05, Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if it's actual or the power of suggestion, but I've noticed that the fonts with X.org
 look awfully nice.I don't have a screenshot to compare with XF86, but...:)And, anyway, it's the future, so since it's working so well, why not go ahead and switch?I didn't notice one thing different when I upgraded to 
X.org yesterday, andthat's a good thing.Everything seems to be working perfectly fine.

That's been pretty much my experience today. My screen seems
brighter (is there detection that I'm on a laptop with the power
plugged in?) and the fonts are crisp.

When the security announcement about testing was made today I did the
update/upgrade and was offered a choice of xfree86 and X.org and took a
leap of faith on the latter; I'm not sorry I did that!

Patrick


Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?

2005-09-08 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Ben Pearre a écrit :

I'm very sorry for the possibly off-topic reply.

I have had one problem since my Unstable system went to Xorg, and I
don't know whether this is the place to air it.  Please forgive if
not.  If this is interesting, ask me for more info, as I've tried to
keep this brief:


[snip]

Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted 
display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to 
immediately roll back to old sarge xfree, which fortunately was a 
painless operation.



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Re: X.Org Hits Testing

2005-09-08 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Jason Clinton wrote:
Well its finally happened, and I'm so happy that it has. As of now, most of 
mirrors have X.Org packages in their testing/etch repository. Before I 
perform the upgrade, I'm starting this thread to catch any and all problems 
that might arrise. Please let us know if you have any trouble with the 
upgrade by replying here.


*crosses fingers and runs 'aptitude upgrade'*


Don't know if this is appropriate. Anyway:

I have Nvidia videocards and use the closedsource driver (7167).

X.org with its eyecandy, for a non-gamer, brought the necessity of using 
driver options:


Option  RenderAccel true
Option  AllowGLXWithComposite   true

When you do that it causes a tight loop in the server, as detailed here:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=31858page=22pp=15highlight=loop

So if you turn the options off the CPU hits 100% very soon upon using 
the candy options, regardless of what CPU you use.


For myself that sort of finishes X.org, since I don't know what it 
offers beyond what XFree86 does for me.


I'd be interested to know if anyone can use Nvidia driver with Nvidia 
cards and use the options but does not have the problem. And if so what 
mobo you use.


H


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X.Org Hits Testing

2005-09-07 Thread Jason Clinton
Well its finally happened, and I'm so happy that it has. As of now, most of 
mirrors have X.Org packages in their testing/etch repository. Before I 
perform the upgrade, I'm starting this thread to catch any and all problems 
that might arrise. Please let us know if you have any trouble with the 
upgrade by replying here.

*crosses fingers and runs 'aptitude upgrade'*
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Re: X.Org Hits Testing

2005-09-07 Thread Oliver Lupton

Jason Clinton wrote:

Well its finally happened, and I'm so happy that it has. As of now, most of 
mirrors have X.Org packages in their testing/etch repository. Before I 
perform the upgrade, I'm starting this thread to catch any and all problems 
that might arrise. Please let us know if you have any trouble with the 
upgrade by replying here.


*crosses fingers and runs 'aptitude upgrade'*
 


Am I looking in the wrong place?

http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?exact=0searchon=namesversion=allcase=insensitiverelease=allkeywords=xorgarch=any

apt-get says it's lists are up to date, apt-cache search xorg returns 
nothing.


Cheers, Oliver


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Re: X.Org Hits Testing OT: debian-laptop.org back on track

2005-09-07 Thread Philip Schwartz
 Jason Clinton wrote:

Well its finally happened, and I'm so happy that it has. As of now, most
 of
mirrors have X.Org packages in their testing/etch repository. Before I
perform the upgrade, I'm starting this thread to catch any and all
 problems
that might arrise. Please let us know if you have any trouble with the
upgrade by replying here.

*crosses fingers and runs 'aptitude upgrade'*


 Am I looking in the wrong place?

 http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?exact=0searchon=namesversion=allcase=insensitiverelease=allkeywords=xorgarch=any

 apt-get says it's lists are up to date, apt-cache search xorg returns
 nothing.

 Cheers, Oliver


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I am using etch and I checked 3 different mirrors. None of them have xorg.

I don't think it has been moved out of sid yet.

OT: debian-laptop.org back on track
Debian-laptop.org is back on track, I just aquired some free stable
hosting space and I am starting to build the sites directory and
databases. Sorry about the delay because of the hosting mess up. It should
be up by a week from friday.

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Re: X.Org Hits Testing

2005-09-07 Thread Bryan Donlan
On 9/7/05, Oliver Lupton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jason Clinton wrote:
 
 Well its finally happened, and I'm so happy that it has. As of now, most of
 mirrors have X.Org packages in their testing/etch repository. Before I
 perform the upgrade, I'm starting this thread to catch any and all problems
 that might arrise. Please let us know if you have any trouble with the
 upgrade by replying here.
 
 *crosses fingers and runs 'aptitude upgrade'*
 
 
 Am I looking in the wrong place?
 
 http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?exact=0searchon=namesversion=allcase=insensitiverelease=allkeywords=xorgarch=any
 
 apt-get says it's lists are up to date, apt-cache search xorg returns
 nothing.

http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xorg-x11.html

Scroll down a bit and you can see a testing version.



Re: X.Org Hits Testing OT: debian-laptop.org back on track

2005-09-07 Thread Rogério Brito
On Sep 07 2005, Philip Schwartz wrote:
 I am using etch and I checked 3 different mirrors. None of them have
 xorg.

Perhaps the mirror you checked wasn't up-to-date.

 I don't think it has been moved out of sid yet.

It has. I'm downloading it right now for PowerPC and, after seeing how
things go, I will upgrade my main computer.


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Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg synaptics touchpad problem?

2005-09-07 Thread Ben Pearre
I'm very sorry for the possibly off-topic reply.

I have had one problem since my Unstable system went to Xorg, and I
don't know whether this is the place to air it.  Please forgive if
not.  If this is interesting, ask me for more info, as I've tried to
keep this brief:

Synaptics touchpad driver is broken.  [sorry if I have the filenames
wrong, I'm at a different computer].  Driver loads correctly according
to dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and synclient works perfectly, but
apps don't get touchpad events (including xev) (yes, pad is turned on,
etc).  It's as if I just listed the wrong device in Xorg.config.  This
is on a Thinkpad, and the nipple still works perfectly.  I haven't
heard this complaint anywhere else, so I assume I haven't provided
nearly enough information :)

Cheers!
-Ben

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Re: X.Org Hits Testing

2005-09-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Jason Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005 Sep 07 16:36 -0500]:
 Well its finally happened, and I'm so happy that it has. As of now, most of 
 mirrors have X.Org packages in their testing/etch repository. Before I 
 perform the upgrade, I'm starting this thread to catch any and all problems 
 that might arrise. Please let us know if you have any trouble with the 
 upgrade by replying here.
 
 *crosses fingers and runs 'aptitude upgrade'*

I've had Xorg running on my laptop for a couple of months in my Sid
partition so I knew it would work.  ;-)

I rebooted the laptop (Thinkpad T23) into the Etch partition, did an
update in Aptitude and Whaddayaknow, Xorg!

I did the upgrade, had to select xserver-xorg manually, ran
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, answered the questions based on what was
in my XF86Config file, ran startx and it all worked!  The fonts looked
horrid so I copied the debconf lines into xorg,conf and reconfigured
fontconfig to restore the anti-alias capability.  Everthing now looks
and works the same as before.

Very seamless and almost a non-event for such a major system upgrade.

- Nate 

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