Re: Xorg 7.0 and ATI working!
Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: do you have 3D hw acceleration working? I thought it's not working or VERY experimental in free ati driver Haven't tried. some of my fonts look prety ugly too, how did you figure out what the proper font path is? Whatever was there after dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? Yes. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg 7.0 and ATI working!
Bill Wohler wrote: In case there are still folks out there that like me have xserver-xorg 6.8 on hold because of the reports that X would freeze up if you had an ATI card, I'd like to report that all is well. I share the sentiments that the upgrade was a non-event for such a major upgrade (at least now that the problems exposed with the early reports have been fixed). I went into aptitude, unheld xorg-xserver, hit U, and then g. Although I was expecting to have to apt-get install -f a few times, I didn't have to run it once! I have: IBM ThinkPad t40p ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000] (rev 02) Debian etch I haven't seen any strange behavior in a few days now. I believe I read that the ATI fixes were applied to Xorg 7.1, but it appears that the these fixes were also applied to xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.5.8.0-1 which is available to Debian users of Xorg 7.0. My thanks and appreciation go out to the X Strike Force. A couple of notes: 1. glxgears missing The fix was to install mesa-utils. do you have 3D hw acceleration working? I thought it's not working or VERY experimental in free ati driver 2. The courier fonts were ugly. The fix was to rebuild xorg.conf (I'm assuming with a proper font path). I did not have to resort to the workaround presented in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367593 some of my fonts look prety ugly too, how did you figure out what the proper font path is? Whatever was there after dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? TIA, erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg 7.0 and ATI working!
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:39:52 -0700 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Wohler wrote: [SNIP] 2. The courier fonts were ugly. The fix was to rebuild xorg.conf (I'm assuming with a proper font path). I did not have to resort to the workaround presented in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367593 some of my fonts look prety ugly too, how did you figure out what the proper font path is? Whatever was there after dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? TIA, erik Hi again, Erik. Fonts are looking pretty good here (deja-vu and msttcorefonts, with bitmap fonts enabled too). What problems are you having? -- Liam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg 7.0 and ATI working!
Liam O'Toole wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:39:52 -0700 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Wohler wrote: [SNIP] 2. The courier fonts were ugly. The fix was to rebuild xorg.conf (I'm assuming with a proper font path). I did not have to resort to the workaround presented in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367593 some of my fonts look prety ugly too, how did you figure out what the proper font path is? Whatever was there after dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? TIA, erik Hi again, Erik. Fonts are looking pretty good here (deja-vu and msttcorefonts, with bitmap fonts enabled too). What problems are you having? pretty much everything looks ok except of fonts in fvwm - window titles, menus, fonts in pager. The menu and window titles look like really badly resized bitmap fonts (before xorg 7 upgrade they looked ok) this is the font specified in fvwm config: default: -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-12-* menu:-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-12-* the font in pager is too small for any font to appear good but I think it's somewhat worse than before pager font: -*-times-medium-r-*-*-*-80-*-*-*-*-*-* tried these in xfontsel and they still look pretty bad even though they don't have exactly same look as in fvwm (and there's no 80 size for times, only 120) these look like pretty common fonts, not sure what happened, they are not missing, just ugly. btw what's deja-vu? I assume it's a font or set of fonts but apt-cache found nothing thanks, erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg 7.0 and ATI working!
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:06:53 -0700 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Liam O'Toole wrote: On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:39:52 -0700 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Wohler wrote: [SNIP] 2. The courier fonts were ugly. The fix was to rebuild xorg.conf (I'm assuming with a proper font path). I did not have to resort to the workaround presented in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367593 some of my fonts look prety ugly too, how did you figure out what the proper font path is? Whatever was there after dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? TIA, erik Hi again, Erik. Fonts are looking pretty good here (deja-vu and msttcorefonts, with bitmap fonts enabled too). What problems are you having? pretty much everything looks ok except of fonts in fvwm - window titles, menus, fonts in pager. The menu and window titles look like really badly resized bitmap fonts (before xorg 7 upgrade they looked ok) this is the font specified in fvwm config: default: -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-12-* menu:-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-12-* the font in pager is too small for any font to appear good but I think it's somewhat worse than before pager font: -*-times-medium-r-*-*-*-80-*-*-*-*-*-* tried these in xfontsel and they still look pretty bad even though they don't have exactly same look as in fvwm (and there's no 80 size for times, only 120) these look like pretty common fonts, not sure what happened, they are not missing, just ugly. btw what's deja-vu? I assume it's a font or set of fonts but apt-cache found nothing thanks, erik I know next to nothing about fvwm, but I see that it depends on freetype and fontconfig. You could try substituting the ugly bitmap fonts for pretty truetype ones, e.g., in ~/.fonts.conf: ?xml version=1.0? !DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM fonts.dtd fontconfig match target=pattern test name=family stringHelvetica/string /test edit name=family mode=assign stringsans-serif/string /edit /match match target=pattern test name=family stringTimes/string /test edit name=family mode=assign stringserif/string /edit /match /fontconfig That of course assumes that fvwm respects such client-side font settings at all. The deja-vu package is ttf-dejavu. Basically it's just an extension of the more famous bitstream fonts. -- Liam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xorg 7.0 and ATI working!
In case there are still folks out there that like me have xserver-xorg 6.8 on hold because of the reports that X would freeze up if you had an ATI card, I'd like to report that all is well. I share the sentiments that the upgrade was a non-event for such a major upgrade (at least now that the problems exposed with the early reports have been fixed). I went into aptitude, unheld xorg-xserver, hit U, and then g. Although I was expecting to have to apt-get install -f a few times, I didn't have to run it once! I have: IBM ThinkPad t40p ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000] (rev 02) Debian etch I haven't seen any strange behavior in a few days now. I believe I read that the ATI fixes were applied to Xorg 7.1, but it appears that the these fixes were also applied to xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.5.8.0-1 which is available to Debian users of Xorg 7.0. My thanks and appreciation go out to the X Strike Force. A couple of notes: 1. glxgears missing The fix was to install mesa-utils. 2. The courier fonts were ugly. The fix was to rebuild xorg.conf (I'm assuming with a proper font path). I did not have to resort to the workaround presented in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367593 3. Many warnings in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. The fix was to rebuild xorg.conf. 4. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg STILL doesn't give you a configuration file. I determined some workarounds: sudo sh -c readlink /etc/X11/X | md5sum /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf sudo vi /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.postinst # Comment out the following line as well as its matching else and endif. # if [ -z $UPGRADE ] || dpkg --compare-versions $2 le 1:7.0.14; then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 5. Touchpad not working The fix was to remove the line Option Device /dev/psaux in Section InputDevice, Identifier Synaptics Touchpad since the driver finds the device on its own (with Protocol auto-dev). -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg 7.0 and ATI working!
On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:19 -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: snip sudo sh -c readlink /etc/X11/X | md5sum /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum snip (totally off topic, but a thought maybe worth sharing:) I used to pull similar tricks to redirect output to a file writable only by root. it can be done without spawning a root shell, though: readlink /etc/X11/X | md5sum | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum it has the added bonus of showing what you've just written to the file (unless you tack '/dev/null' to the end of the line, of course). see tee(1) for more info (the append option is handy for replacing '') enjoy! -- Joris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg 7.0 and ATI working!
Joris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 15:19 -0700, Bill Wohler wrote: snip sudo sh -c readlink /etc/X11/X | md5sum /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum snip (totally off topic, but a thought maybe worth sharing:) I used to pull similar tricks to redirect output to a file writable only by root. it can be done without spawning a root shell, though: readlink /etc/X11/X | md5sum | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/X.md5sum it has the added bonus of showing what you've just written to the file (unless you tack '/dev/null' to the end of the line, of course). see tee(1) for more info (the append option is handy for replacing '') Another for the Now, why didn't I think of that? category. Nice. Thanks. -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
