Re: Xorg eats my CPU
René Seindal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill Wohler wrote (18-01-2006 22:04): Michael Ott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Kevin! I am running (up to date) Debian unstable on my laptop, it has a Radeon IGP 340M graphics chip. For the last month or so I am seeing the Xorg process gradually gobble up more and more CPU, up to 30/40% and in some cases 99%. That depends what side you visit. If there is a java applet or a flash animation inside you need more CPU. Yes, I think you'll find that Flash is the culprit. Since Flash is used for gratuitous, annoying animation most of the time, you can remove the flashplugin-nonfree package. Or install the flashblock extension to firefox. It replaces flash elements with a button, and the flash content only plays if you click the button. Oooo, that's nice! Has anyone tried this with Galeon? -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg eats my CPU
Michael Ott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Kevin! I am running (up to date) Debian unstable on my laptop, it has a Radeon IGP 340M graphics chip. For the last month or so I am seeing the Xorg process gradually gobble up more and more CPU, up to 30/40% and in some cases 99%. That depends what side you visit. If there is a java applet or a flash animation inside you need more CPU. Yes, I think you'll find that Flash is the culprit. Simply find the page running Flash (on my system, the cursor turns into a hand with a cuff and the right mouse button brings up a Flash context menu), and remove it. Since Flash is used for gratuitous, annoying animation most of the time, you can remove the flashplugin-nonfree package. Or, just in case someone sends you a cool JibJab video, you can turn off Flash temporarily with the following command: # mv /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so \ /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so- -- Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg eats my CPU
Bill Wohler wrote (18-01-2006 22:04): Michael Ott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Kevin! I am running (up to date) Debian unstable on my laptop, it has a Radeon IGP 340M graphics chip. For the last month or so I am seeing the Xorg process gradually gobble up more and more CPU, up to 30/40% and in some cases 99%. That depends what side you visit. If there is a java applet or a flash animation inside you need more CPU. Yes, I think you'll find that Flash is the culprit. Since Flash is used for gratuitous, annoying animation most of the time, you can remove the flashplugin-nonfree package. Or install the flashblock extension to firefox. It replaces flash elements with a button, and the flash content only plays if you click the button. -- René Seindal ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Xorg eats my CPU
On 09/01/06, Paul Dwerryhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 02:21:08PM +0100, Kevin Glynn wrote: I am running (up to date) Debian unstable on my laptop, it has a Radeon IGP 340M graphics chip. For the last month or so I am seeing the Xorg process gradually gobble up more and more CPU, up to 30/40% and in some cases 99%. Yes, I see this too, and have seen it ever since unstable switched from xfree86 to Xorg. It happens periodically - the load average on my machine shoots up, stays high for ten or so minutes, and then gradually drops off again. This occurs on every machine I've got that is running Xorg. Two of them have ATI cards, but the third has an nVidia card. But the big CPU problems are seen when I run mozilla-firefox, since usually when I kill firefox Xorg recovers. I run galeon (rather than firefox), but it never seems to be particularly high in top's output when the problem happens. firefox CPU utilisation doesn't get high for me either, but I noticed that it was usually near the top of my other processes when I had the problem. Killing firefox reduces Xorg back to normal, so it seems to be tickling something. It also seems to get worse when I browse certain sites, such as google reader. cheers k
Re: Xorg eats my CPU
On 09/01/06, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:21:08 +0100 Kevin Glynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am running (up to date) Debian unstable on my laptop, it has a Radeon IGP 340M graphics chip. For the last month or so I am seeing the Xorg process gradually gobble up more and more CPU, up to 30/40% and in some cases 99%. I saw some of this behavior too. Also, big memory munching by Xorg. Finally switched away from metacity (still gdm) and that problem is GONE. I hadn't thought of the window manager. I just tried to switch away from metacity, but I didn't find a good replacement :-( Even X on its own seems a little sluggish, e.g. when I change windows the gnome icons take a fraction of a second to appear in the new window. But the big CPU problems are seen when I run mozilla-firefox, since usually when I kill firefox Xorg recovers. I don't see any messages in logs that might explain the behaviour and I can't find any related bugs filed against Xorg. Do you leave firefox up all the time? seems to eat memory. Also many tabs means more memory usage. Can't understand the CPU hit from firefox though, unless its got some REALLY heavy pages open with java script and stuff? It happens soon after I startup, with only a couple of firefox tabs. Accessing sites like google reader seem to trigger it though, so maybe javascript has something to do with it thanks k
Re: Xorg eats my CPU
Hello Kevin! I am running (up to date) Debian unstable on my laptop, it has a Radeon IGP 340M graphics chip. For the last month or so I am seeing the Xorg process gradually gobble up more and more CPU, up to 30/40% and in some cases 99%. I have the same problem but switch to a console and back to X fix that problem Even X on its own seems a little sluggish, e.g. when I change windows the gnome icons take a fraction of a second to appear in the new window. But the big CPU problems are seen when I run mozilla-firefox, since usually when I kill firefox Xorg recovers. I don't see any messages in logs that might explain the behaviour and I can't find any related bugs filed against Xorg. That depends what side you visit. If there is a java applet or a flash animation inside you need more CPU. CU Michael -- Michael Ott, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.zolnott.de I am registered as user #275453 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. pgpSlalMRX35L.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xorg eats my CPU
Kevin Glynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hadn't thought of the window manager. I just tried to switch away from metacity, but I didn't find a good replacement If you're running GNOME, you might want to go with one of the former default (more or less) GNOME wms. I.e. Enlightenment (http://enlightenment.org/ - I personally hate this one) or Sawfish (http://sawmill.sourceforge.net/ - pretty neat, even though it's not ratpoison (http://ratpoison.nongnu.org/)). Sawfish is probably your best bet if you want something more memory- and CPU-efficient. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg eats my CPU
On Sunday 08 January 2006 06:21, Kevin Glynn wrote: Hi, I am running (up to date) Debian unstable on my laptop, it has a Radeon IGP 340M graphics chip. For the last month or so I am seeing the Xorg process gradually gobble up more and more CPU, up to 30/40% and in some cases 99%. Even X on its own seems a little sluggish, e.g. when I change windows the gnome icons take a fraction of a second to appear in the new window. But the big CPU problems are seen when I run mozilla-firefox, since usually when I kill firefox Xorg recovers. I don't see any messages in logs that might explain the behaviour and I can't find any related bugs filed against Xorg. Here is the output from the top of top: top - 12:41:40 up 2:56, 4 users, load average: 0.87, 0.45, 0.99 Tasks: 98 total, 3 running, 95 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 40.7% us, 4.8% sy, 0.1% ni, 52.8% id, 1.2% wa, 0.1% hi, 0.3% si Mem:744112k total, 731812k used,12300k free, 134736k buffers Swap: 997880k total, 108k used, 997772k free, 239776k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 13112 keving17 0 130m 50m 16m R 34.7 7.0 2:04.21 firefox-bin 12761 root 5 -10 65052 13m 8108 S 10.1 1.9 1:12.19 Xorg 12933 keving15 0 31756 13m 8596 S 0.2 1.9 0:18.06 gnome-terminal 12935 keving15 0 44704 7344 5864 S 0.2 1.0 0:02.15 gnome-cups-icon (Hope that shows up OK) Does anyone have any idea what bug this might be? Or clues on how I can track it down further? I don't really have enough information to file a bug report yet Thanks for any advice / help Kevin If you've recently upgraded to a 2.6.x kernel, that could be the source of the problem. The new scheduler doesn't seem to play nicely with X running at a nice value of -10. So, re-nice X to 0, and see if that fixes your problem. Search the archives for a method to change the nice value permanently. Note that for me, re-nicing without restarting X didn't work, because not all processes showed up in top, and thus I didn't re-nice them. Hope that helps, Justin Guerin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xorg eats my CPU
Hi, I am running (up to date) Debian unstable on my laptop, it has a Radeon IGP 340M graphics chip. For the last month or so I am seeing the Xorg process gradually gobble up more and more CPU, up to 30/40% and in some cases 99%. Even X on its own seems a little sluggish, e.g. when I change windows the gnome icons take a fraction of a second to appear in the new window. But the big CPU problems are seen when I run mozilla-firefox, since usually when I kill firefox Xorg recovers. I don't see any messages in logs that might explain the behaviour and I can't find any related bugs filed against Xorg. Here is the output from the top of top: top - 12:41:40 up 2:56, 4 users, load average: 0.87, 0.45, 0.99 Tasks: 98 total, 3 running, 95 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 40.7% us, 4.8% sy, 0.1% ni, 52.8% id, 1.2% wa, 0.1% hi, 0.3% si Mem:744112k total, 731812k used,12300k free, 134736k buffers Swap: 997880k total, 108k used, 997772k free, 239776k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 13112 keving17 0 130m 50m 16m R 34.7 7.0 2:04.21 firefox-bin 12761 root 5 -10 65052 13m 8108 S 10.1 1.9 1:12.19 Xorg 12933 keving15 0 31756 13m 8596 S 0.2 1.9 0:18.06 gnome-terminal 12935 keving15 0 44704 7344 5864 S 0.2 1.0 0:02.15 gnome-cups-icon (Hope that shows up OK) Does anyone have any idea what bug this might be? Or clues on how I can track it down further? I don't really have enough information to file a bug report yet Thanks for any advice / help Kevin
Re: Xorg eats my CPU
On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:21:08 +0100 Kevin Glynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am running (up to date) Debian unstable on my laptop, it has a Radeon IGP 340M graphics chip. For the last month or so I am seeing the Xorg process gradually gobble up more and more CPU, up to 30/40% and in some cases 99%. I saw some of this behavior too. Also, big memory munching by Xorg. Finally switched away from metacity (still gdm) and that problem is GONE. Even X on its own seems a little sluggish, e.g. when I change windows the gnome icons take a fraction of a second to appear in the new window. But the big CPU problems are seen when I run mozilla-firefox, since usually when I kill firefox Xorg recovers. I don't see any messages in logs that might explain the behaviour and I can't find any related bugs filed against Xorg. Do you leave firefox up all the time? seems to eat memory. Also many tabs means more memory usage. Can't understand the CPU hit from firefox though, unless its got some REALLY heavy pages open with java script and stuff? A Here is the output from the top of top: top - 12:41:40 up 2:56, 4 users, load average: 0.87, 0.45, 0.99 Tasks: 98 total, 3 running, 95 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 40.7% us, 4.8% sy, 0.1% ni, 52.8% id, 1.2% wa, 0.1% hi, 0.3% si Mem:744112k total, 731812k used,12300k free, 134736k buffers Swap: 997880k total, 108k used, 997772k free, 239776k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 13112 keving17 0 130m 50m 16m R 34.7 7.0 2:04.21 firefox-bin 12761 root 5 -10 65052 13m 8108 S 10.1 1.9 1:12.19 Xorg 12933 keving15 0 31756 13m 8596 S 0.2 1.9 0:18.06 gnome-terminal 12935 keving15 0 44704 7344 5864 S 0.2 1.0 0:02.15 gnome-cups-icon (Hope that shows up OK) Does anyone have any idea what bug this might be? Or clues on how I can track it down further? I don't really have enough information to file a bug report yet Thanks for any advice / help Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg eats my CPU
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 02:21:08PM +0100, Kevin Glynn wrote: I am running (up to date) Debian unstable on my laptop, it has a Radeon IGP 340M graphics chip. For the last month or so I am seeing the Xorg process gradually gobble up more and more CPU, up to 30/40% and in some cases 99%. Yes, I see this too, and have seen it ever since unstable switched from xfree86 to Xorg. It happens periodically - the load average on my machine shoots up, stays high for ten or so minutes, and then gradually drops off again. This occurs on every machine I've got that is running Xorg. Two of them have ATI cards, but the third has an nVidia card. But the big CPU problems are seen when I run mozilla-firefox, since usually when I kill firefox Xorg recovers. I run galeon (rather than firefox), but it never seems to be particularly high in top's output when the problem happens. Cheers, Paul -- Paul Dwerryhouse| PGP Key ID: 0x6B91B584 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
