ZFS in Linux (was Re: Filesystem recommendations)

2010-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson

On 04/25/2010 01:19 AM, Mark Allums wrote:

I wanted to like ZFS, but Sun is now
Oracle, and thus over it hangs a dark cloud. Besides, we can almost get
the benefits of ZFS with Linux RAID plus LVM2.


Even were Sun not owned by Oracle, the likelihood of ZFS in Linux is 
zero.  http://kerneltrap.org/node/8066


Sure there might be (is?) a FUSE implementation, but it'll be 
woefully slower than an in-kernel implementation.


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Re: ZFS in Linux (was Re: Filesystem recommendations)

2010-04-25 Thread Mark Allums

On 4/25/2010 7:18 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 04/25/2010 01:19 AM, Mark Allums wrote:

I wanted to like ZFS, but Sun is now
Oracle, and thus over it hangs a dark cloud. Besides, we can almost get
the benefits of ZFS with Linux RAID plus LVM2.


Even were Sun not owned by Oracle, the likelihood of ZFS in Linux is
zero. http://kerneltrap.org/node/8066


Actually, bringing ZFS to Linux is *more* likely under Oracle, since 
Oracle is not so Linux-paranoid, but I think that for the next year or 
two, everything Sun is completely up-in-the-air.




Sure there might be (is?) a FUSE implementation, but it'll be woefully
slower than an in-kernel implementation.


FUSE on what I consider reasonable hardware is tolerable, but, yeah, it 
could be better.


MAA



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Re: ZFS in Linux (was Re: Filesystem recommendations)

2010-04-25 Thread Ron Johnson

On 04/25/2010 09:06 AM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 4/25/2010 7:18 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 04/25/2010 01:19 AM, Mark Allums wrote:

I wanted to like ZFS, but Sun is now
Oracle, and thus over it hangs a dark cloud. Besides, we can almost get
the benefits of ZFS with Linux RAID plus LVM2.


Even were Sun not owned by Oracle, the likelihood of ZFS in Linux is
zero. http://kerneltrap.org/node/8066


Actually, bringing ZFS to Linux is *more* likely under Oracle, since
Oracle is not so Linux-paranoid, but I think that for the next year or
two, everything Sun is completely up-in-the-air.



With all those patents, the kernel team won't allow it.

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Re: ZFS in Linux (was Re: Filesystem recommendations)

2010-04-25 Thread Mark Allums

On 4/25/2010 9:28 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 04/25/2010 09:06 AM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 4/25/2010 7:18 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 04/25/2010 01:19 AM, Mark Allums wrote:

I wanted to like ZFS, but Sun is now
Oracle, and thus over it hangs a dark cloud. Besides, we can almost get
the benefits of ZFS with Linux RAID plus LVM2.


Even were Sun not owned by Oracle, the likelihood of ZFS in Linux is
zero. http://kerneltrap.org/node/8066


Actually, bringing ZFS to Linux is *more* likely under Oracle, since
Oracle is not so Linux-paranoid, but I think that for the next year or
two, everything Sun is completely up-in-the-air.



With all those patents, the kernel team won't allow it.



Well, yeah.  It's not bloody likely.  I'm rooting for software patent 
reform, a movement which may be gaining momentum.  But I'm not holding 
my breath.


MAA


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