Re: a short cut on desktop on gnome3

2011-12-03 Thread darkestkhan
2011/12/2 doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net:
 On 12/02/2011 01:28 PM, Brian Flaherty wrote:

 On 12/02/2011 03:03 AM, abdelkader belahcene wrote:

 *Hi,
 I am trying to be familiar with gnome 3,
 So I installing from debian testing the gnome 3,
 It seems good, but sometimes I am lost, for example, I want to put a
 file on the Desktop, like drag it from the usb to the screen!! as usual,
 it didn't work !!!

 another case I used to add button on the bar just by clicking on the
 topbar menu to add it, the right click is not working ??!!

 How to enable it?? is it possible??
 thanks for help*


 My understanding is that by default, GNOME 3 desktop does not correspond
 to a directory as in previous GNOME and Mac (for example). But there's an
 option in gnome-tweak-tool to tell the file manager (nautilus, I assume) to
 manage the desktop. I haven't tried it, but it sounds like it should do what
 you want.




 If  you can't put icons on your desktop, what good is the desktop?  You
 might as well have DOS!

 --doug


I'm not using GNOME, but my desktop doesn't have any icons. Beside I
always have some windows maximized, which would make them quite
useless. And desktop without icons is good for managing _windows_ ;P

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a short cut on desktop on gnome3

2011-12-02 Thread abdelkader belahcene
*Hi,
I am trying to be familiar with gnome 3,
So I installing from debian testing the gnome 3,
It seems good, but sometimes I am lost, for example, I want to put a file
on the Desktop, like drag it from the usb to the screen!! as usual, it
didn't work !!!

another case I used to add button on the bar just by clicking on the topbar
menu to add it, the right click is not working ??!!

How to enable it?? is it possible??
thanks for help*


Re: a short cut on desktop on gnome3

2011-12-02 Thread Brian Flaherty

On 12/02/2011 03:03 AM, abdelkader belahcene wrote:

*Hi,
I am trying to be familiar with gnome 3,
So I installing from debian testing the gnome 3,
It seems good, but sometimes I am lost, for example, I want to put a
file on the Desktop, like drag it from the usb to the screen!! as usual,
it didn't work !!!

another case I used to add button on the bar just by clicking on the
topbar menu to add it, the right click is not working ??!!

How to enable it?? is it possible??
thanks for help*


My understanding is that by default, GNOME 3 desktop does not correspond 
to a directory as in previous GNOME and Mac (for example). But there's 
an option in gnome-tweak-tool to tell the file manager (nautilus, I 
assume) to manage the desktop. I haven't tried it, but it sounds like it 
should do what you want.





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Re: a short cut on desktop on gnome3

2011-12-02 Thread doug

On 12/02/2011 01:28 PM, Brian Flaherty wrote:

On 12/02/2011 03:03 AM, abdelkader belahcene wrote:

*Hi,
I am trying to be familiar with gnome 3,
So I installing from debian testing the gnome 3,
It seems good, but sometimes I am lost, for example, I want to put a
file on the Desktop, like drag it from the usb to the screen!! as usual,
it didn't work !!!

another case I used to add button on the bar just by clicking on the
topbar menu to add it, the right click is not working ??!!

How to enable it?? is it possible??
thanks for help*


My understanding is that by default, GNOME 3 desktop does not 
correspond to a directory as in previous GNOME and Mac (for example). 
But there's an option in gnome-tweak-tool to tell the file manager 
(nautilus, I assume) to manage the desktop. I haven't tried it, but it 
sounds like it should do what you want.





If  you can't put icons on your desktop, what good is the desktop?  You 
might as well have DOS!


--doug


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Re: a short cut on desktop on gnome3

2011-12-02 Thread Walter Hurry
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:18:37 -0500, doug wrote:

 On 12/02/2011 01:28 PM, Brian Flaherty wrote:
 On 12/02/2011 03:03 AM, abdelkader belahcene wrote:
 *Hi,
 I am trying to be familiar with gnome 3,
 So I installing from debian testing the gnome 3,
 It seems good, but sometimes I am lost, for example, I want to put a
 file on the Desktop, like drag it from the usb to the screen!! as
 usual,
 it didn't work !!!

 another case I used to add button on the bar just by clicking on the
 topbar menu to add it, the right click is not working ??!!

 How to enable it?? is it possible??
 thanks for help*

 My understanding is that by default, GNOME 3 desktop does not
 correspond to a directory as in previous GNOME and Mac (for example).
 But there's an option in gnome-tweak-tool to tell the file manager
 (nautilus, I assume) to manage the desktop. I haven't tried it, but it
 sounds like it should do what you want.




 If  you can't put icons on your desktop, what good is the desktop?  You
 might as well have DOS!

I don't have icons on my desktop, but that is through choice.

$ cd Desktop
$ ls -A
$



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Re: a short cut on desktop on gnome3

2011-12-02 Thread Alan Chandler

On 02/12/11 19:18, doug wrote:

On 12/02/2011 01:28 PM, Brian Flaherty wrote:

On 12/02/2011 03:03 AM, abdelkader belahcene wrote:

*Hi,
I am trying to be familiar with gnome 3,
So I installing from debian testing the gnome 3,
It seems good, but sometimes I am lost, for example, I want to put a
file on the Desktop, like drag it from the usb to the screen!! as usual,
it didn't work !!!

another case I used to add button on the bar just by clicking on the
topbar menu to add it, the right click is not working ??!!

How to enable it?? is it possible??
thanks for help*


My understanding is that by default, GNOME 3 desktop does not
correspond to a directory as in previous GNOME and Mac (for example).
But there's an option in gnome-tweak-tool to tell the file manager
(nautilus, I assume) to manage the desktop. I haven't tried it, but it
sounds like it should do what you want.





If you can't put icons on your desktop, what good is the desktop? You
might as well have DOS!

--doug


I find Icons on the desktop pretty useless - they are always hidden by 
windows - except when you aren't running anything.


I just spent a week exploring in depth how to manage my workload in both 
KDE 4.7 following frustration with Gnome 3 (Not because of the new 
shell, which after a couple of weeks I got use to - but because of the 
flakeness of Nautilus FTP (it was failing with permission errors where 
the Firefox FTP plugin was performing flawlessly when overwriting files 
with a new version) and with Gedit (which has taken to crashing when you 
have multiple tabs open and you close one of them).


In particular, I spent some exploring the KDE Activities concept along 
with the ability to put different desktop widgets on different activity 
desktops.


In the end, I spent more time in KDE getting the work done than I can 
with Gnome and have now gone back to the Gnome-Shell.


I populate the Activity Bar with those applications I use all the time 
(Web Browser, Mail, Terminal Window, Text Editor, Virtual Box, MythTV, 
LibreOffice writer and Freemind) and now its just a flick of the mouse 
to the top left corner (or hitting the logo key on my keyboard to 
shrink in the windows to the desktop and get at the Icons I wish to use.


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gnome-commander? [was Re: a short cut on desktop on gnome3]

2011-12-02 Thread Brian Flaherty

On 12/02/2011 12:26 PM, Alan Chandler wrote:


I find Icons on the desktop pretty useless - they are always hidden by
windows - except when you aren't running anything.


I agree.


I just spent a week exploring in depth how to manage my workload in both
KDE 4.7 following frustration with Gnome 3 (Not because of the new
shell, which after a couple of weeks I got use to - but because of the
flakeness of Nautilus FTP


I don't know because I haven't tried, but midnight commander (mc) has 
ftp and sftp built in and I have used those in the past. Perhaps 
gnome-commander has the same functionality and maybe it even works?



I populate the Activity Bar with those applications I use all the time
(Web Browser, Mail, Terminal Window, Text Editor, Virtual Box, MythTV,
LibreOffice writer and Freemind) and now its just a flick of the mouse
to the top left corner (or hitting the logo key on my keyboard to
shrink in the windows to the desktop and get at the Icons I wish to use.


I agree here too. I switched from stable to unstable because I like gnome 3.


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Re: a short cut on desktop on gnome3

2011-12-02 Thread Alan Chandler

On 02/12/11 20:45, Erwan David wrote:

On 02/12/11 21:26, Alan Chandler wrote:


I populate the Activity Bar with those applications I use all the time
(Web Browser, Mail, Terminal Window, Text Editor, Virtual Box, MythTV,
LibreOffice writer and Freemind) and now its just a flick of the mouse
to the top left corner (or hitting the logo key on my keyboard to
shrink in the windows to the desktop and get at the Icons I wish to use.



For me a compoisite way mouse + keyboard is unnacceptable because of the
time it takes.

Moreover the logo key is *bnot* available on my keyboard : I need it as
a compose key.


Sending this back to the list because this wasn't meant to be a private 
exchange


I think you misunderstand - you don't need mouse AND keyboard, its mouse 
OR keyboard


Although I haven't had time to try it yet, it looks to me relatively 
easy for people to develop plugins to change gnome-shells behaviour. 
With javascript and html as the underlying technologies, it sounds as 
though the situation is set up to allow people to develop extensions to 
change behaviours etc - indeed there already are a few simple ones 
around (although sadly not yet packaged for debian)



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