Re: adding 192.x with static IP
On 05 May 2010, Celejar wrote: On Wed, 5 May 2010 08:32:26 +0100 Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote: On 04 May 2010, Celejar wrote: Indeed. I was just trying to help, over the phone, a Windows user set up a new router, in the absence of a manual. I told her go to 192.168.0.1, then 192.168.1.1. Nothing doing. Finally, I searched online for the manual, which gave the address as routerlogin.net or something like that. I still have no idea what the IP address is. Celejar -- In my case, routerlogin.net gives me my router at 192.188.0.1. Thanks, but do you really mean 188, or 168? Celejar -- Sorry, typo - 168. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk - sample my ebooks at http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/acampbell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100506073841.ga2...@acampbell.org.uk
Re: adding 192.x with static IP
On 04 May 2010, Celejar wrote: Indeed. I was just trying to help, over the phone, a Windows user set up a new router, in the absence of a manual. I told her go to 192.168.0.1, then 192.168.1.1. Nothing doing. Finally, I searched online for the manual, which gave the address as routerlogin.net or something like that. I still have no idea what the IP address is. Celejar -- In my case, routerlogin.net gives me my router at 192.188.0.1. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk - sample my ebooks at http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/acampbell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100505073226.ga1...@acampbell.org.uk
Re: adding 192.x with static IP
On Wed, 5 May 2010 08:32:26 +0100 Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote: On 04 May 2010, Celejar wrote: Indeed. I was just trying to help, over the phone, a Windows user set up a new router, in the absence of a manual. I told her go to 192.168.0.1, then 192.168.1.1. Nothing doing. Finally, I searched online for the manual, which gave the address as routerlogin.net or something like that. I still have no idea what the IP address is. Celejar -- In my case, routerlogin.net gives me my router at 192.188.0.1. Thanks, but do you really mean 188, or 168? Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100505085944.62a94df9.cele...@gmail.com
Re: adding 192.x with static IP
Indeed. I was just trying to help, over the phone, a Windows user set up a new router, in the absence of a manual. I told her go to 192.168.0.1, then 192.168.1.1. Nothing doing. Finally, I searched online for the manual, which gave the address as routerlogin.net or something like that. I still have no idea what the IP address is. In my case, routerlogin.net gives me my router at 192.188.0.1. Thanks, but do you really mean 188, or 168? 192.168.x.x is known to not be available from the wild. Good thing to have local network. Just as 10.x.x.x, if you like it better. Setting IP as static helps if one has server in local network. The very problem may be the address of the router. As default it takes something manufacturer thinks fits the need the best. Linksys has 192.168.1.1. You may always change it to your liking, just be aware to point all nodes to that gateway/proxy. It will give you names re- solution. It will also route all traffic in and out. Best regards Zoran -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100506043839.ga...@faust.net
Re: adding 192.x with static IP
On Mon, 03 May 2010 22:11:59 -0400, Zachary Uram wrote: I have a static IP setup, I wish to add a router and it has a web interface, I can get to it if I start a DHCP server and then 192.168.1.1 is setup, but I'd really prefer to not do this. Is there a way I can setup devices such as this without needing to run DHCP? Yes, if you know beforehand the IP of the router (information that use to be available in device manual) :-) Also I was generally curious if there is any program which will search my LAN and report the address of any network enabled devices it finds (firewalls, DSL modems, routers, etc.)? Thanks! You mean something like netdiscover? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.05.04.06.12...@gmail.com
Re: adding 192.x with static IP
On 04/05/10 03:11, Zachary Uram wrote: I have a static IP setup, I wish to add a router and it has a web interface, I can get to it if I start a DHCP server and then 192.168.1.1 is setup, but I'd really prefer to not do this. There's no way around this with a new router, and sometimes you will need to reset it to factory conditions, when you will be back in this state. Is there a way I can setup devices such as this without needing to run DHCP? Not initially. What you do is to set a workstation to accept DHCP, connect it to the router, then use the web interface to disable DHCP and set the fixed IP address you want the router to use. Usually you will need to reboot the router after this, and then of course your workstation will not see it. Restore the workstation to its normal address, and all should be well. The router will keep these settings after reboots, until you need to use the factory default reset. Make sure you change the router admin password from the default, and check whether the router is configured to accept administration from the Net, and disable that if it is. I don't think any router manufacturer is now daft enough to enable admin from the Internet by default, but it has happened in the past. Also disable uPnP (plug and play) if it is enabled, unless of course you really need it for online games. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4be02b22.9050...@jretrading.com
Re: adding 192.x with static IP
On 05/04/2010 09:11 AM, Joe wrote: [snip] Is there a way I can setup devices such as this without needing to run DHCP? Not initially. What you do is to set a workstation to accept DHCP, connect it to the router, then use the web interface to disable DHCP and set the fixed IP address you want the router to use. Or just, within /etc/network/interfaces, give yourself the static address 192.168.1.2. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4be03a9d.7000...@cox.net
Re: adding 192.x with static IP
On 04/05/10 16:17, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/04/2010 09:11 AM, Joe wrote: [snip] Is there a way I can setup devices such as this without needing to run DHCP? Not initially. What you do is to set a workstation to accept DHCP, connect it to the router, then use the web interface to disable DHCP and set the fixed IP address you want the router to use. Or just, within /etc/network/interfaces, give yourself the static address 192.168.1.2. Indeed so, in this case. In the general case, it might be quicker to enable DHCP than to find out what network the router resets to. Usually 192.168.0. or 192.168.1., but not always. In the days before Internet dongles, the only Net connection available was usually the one on the other side of an apparently non-functional router, and the customer had no idea where the book/CD was. And to be honest, I normally run XP on my laptop, and it's just ticking or unticking a box. Windows has moved on, no reboot necessary... I can remember needing the installation CD to change IP addresses on 95/98. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4be04458.7060...@jretrading.com
Re: adding 192.x with static IP
Zachary Uram net...@gmail.com writes: I have a static IP setup, I wish to add a router and it has a web interface, I can get to it if I start a DHCP server and then 192.168.1.1 is setup, but I'd really prefer to not do this. Is there a way I can setup devices such as this without needing to run DHCP? Also I was generally curious if there is any program which will search my LAN and report the address of any network enabled devices it finds (firewalls, DSL modems, routers, etc.)? Thanks! DHCP is handy because it will automatically set up the default route and external nameserver. I let the router use DHCP to automatically assign an address in the its normal range, but then I assign static addresses in another subnet using aliases. I configure the alias in /etc/network/interfaces, but the dhclient.conf file provides another way to define aliases. -- Carl Johnsonca...@peak.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/878w7zd4qg@cjlinux.localnet
Re: adding 192.x with static IP
On 05/04/2010 10:59 AM, Joe wrote: On 04/05/10 16:17, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] Or just, within /etc/network/interfaces, give yourself the static address 192.168.1.2. Indeed so, in this case. In the general case, it might be quicker to enable DHCP than to find out what network the router resets to. Usually 192.168.0. or 192.168.1., but not always. That's an interesting point. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4be07b35.7000...@cox.net
Re: adding 192.x with static IP
On Tue, 04 May 2010 14:53:25 -0500 Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 05/04/2010 10:59 AM, Joe wrote: On 04/05/10 16:17, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] Or just, within /etc/network/interfaces, give yourself the static address 192.168.1.2. Indeed so, in this case. In the general case, it might be quicker to enable DHCP than to find out what network the router resets to. Usually 192.168.0. or 192.168.1., but not always. That's an interesting point. Indeed. I was just trying to help, over the phone, a Windows user set up a new router, in the absence of a manual. I told her go to 192.168.0.1, then 192.168.1.1. Nothing doing. Finally, I searched online for the manual, which gave the address as routerlogin.net or something like that. I still have no idea what the IP address is. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100504162047.dc000d28.cele...@gmail.com
adding 192.x with static IP
I have a static IP setup, I wish to add a router and it has a web interface, I can get to it if I start a DHCP server and then 192.168.1.1 is setup, but I'd really prefer to not do this. Is there a way I can setup devices such as this without needing to run DHCP? Also I was generally curious if there is any program which will search my LAN and report the address of any network enabled devices it finds (firewalls, DSL modems, routers, etc.)? Thanks! Zach http://www.fidei.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k2vecfa260c1005031911n73ca5035xe8097f4759440...@mail.gmail.com
RE: adding 192.x with static IP
Mon, 3 May 2010 22:11:59 -0400 net...@gmail.com wrote: I have a static IP setup, I wish to add a router and it has a web interface, I can get to it if I start a DHCP server and then 192.168.1.1 is setup, but I'd really prefer to not do this. Why might DHCP be unacceptable in your setup? Is there a way I can setup devices such as this without needing to run DHCP? Absolutely, did you put you clients in the same network as you LAN interface on your router and set the default route on clients to be your router? Also I was generally curious if there is any program which will search my LAN and report the address of any network enabled devices it finds (firewalls, DSL modems, routers, etc.)? Thanks! _ Hotmail Messenger are available on your phone. Try now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9724461
Re: adding 192.x with static IP
On Mon, 3 May 2010 22:11:59 -0400 Zachary Uram net...@gmail.com wrote: I have a static IP setup, I wish to add a router and it has a web interface, I can get to it if I start a DHCP server and then 192.168.1.1 is setup, but I'd really prefer to not do this. Is there a way I can setup devices such as this without needing to run DHCP? Also I was generally curious if there is any program which will I don't quite understand the problem. Can you explain this a bit more clearly? search my LAN and report the address of any network enabled devices it finds (firewalls, DSL modems, routers, etc.)? Thanks! Nmap? Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100503231602.30b10b53.cele...@gmail.com
Re: adding 192.x with static IP
On 05/03/2010 09:11 PM, Zachary Uram wrote: I have a static IP setup, Where do you get this IP address from? Usually (always??) the router gets the (sometimes static) IP address from the ISP and then it either gives you a DHCP address or lets you specify your own (192.168.x.y or 10.x.y.z) static address. I wish to add a router and it has a web interface, I can get to it if I start a DHCP server and then 192.168.1.1 is setup, but I'd really prefer to not do this. Is there a way I can setup devices such as this without needing to run DHCP? Also I was generally curious if there is any program which will search my LAN and report the address of any network enabled devices it finds (firewalls, DSL modems, routers, etc.)? Thanks! nmap -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bdf921d.4070...@cox.net
