Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Nesbit [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: P.S. Joel, I noticed your sig. Have you got any helpful anti-spam tips? (I am having /terrible/ problems with spam at the moment). Not really, I use spamassassin and razor and have a gnus score file I've been adding spam to for close to a year, I haven't seen a bit of spam in my personal mailbox for a couple of months, and only get the ocassional mailing list (I'm subscribed to about a dozen lists) or usenet spam, maybe one two two a month. Cheers Joel - -- Go ahead try and spam me ... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.6 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE8PTkiFgrYE4V82aYRAkkqAJ90e1taB34tGYFrCN7StqA5IccxuQCdGQhY 0itnwk8wwF9oG0HhG3tB22s= =c8Pa -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 12:09:27PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote: Hello, I am very new to LaTex. Is there any good books or documents recommended for me? Any recommends highly appreciated. :-) Peter Flynn, a regular contributer to comp.text.tex, has recently made the following documents available. http://www.silmaril.ie/documents/beginlatex.pdf (1Mb) http://www.silmaril.ie/documents/beginlatex.ps.gz (590Kb) You might also be interested in http://www.silmaril.ie/documents/latex-brochure/leaflet.pdf [840kb] http://www.silmaril.ie/documents/latex-brochure/leaflet.ps.gz [500Kb]) The Indian TeX Users Group have a nice set of beginner's material at http://www.river-valley.com/tug/tutorial/ Brian.
Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?
Andrew Nesbit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (about suitable kooks for LaTex): the Lamport one is a bit terse (more like an overview/reference) Well, I must say, that I couldn't disagree more. I think that the Lamport book is very well written, with amusing texts in the examples, about gnus, gnats and armadillo's. I wish that more handbooks were written like the Lamport book. When I started with LaTeX long ago, I read the first three chapters, and could then easily start. The book seems terse because it is concise, but it is the conciseness that helps you to make a quick start. Paul Huygen
Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?
On Thursday 10 January 2002 04:32 pm, Paul Huygen wrote: Andrew Nesbit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (about suitable kooks for LaTex): the Lamport one is a bit terse (more like an overview/reference) Well, I must say, that I couldn't disagree more. I think that the Lamport book is very well written, with amusing texts in the examples, about gnus, gnats and armadillo's. I wish that more handbooks were written like the Lamport book. When I started with LaTeX long ago, I read the first three chapters, and could then easily start. The book seems terse because it is concise, but it is the conciseness that helps you to make a quick start. Paul Huygen I agree wholeheartedly. With no LaTex experience at all, I picked up the Lamport book and managed to write my 100+ page Masters thesis. That book was a lifesaver! Michael
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Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 09:32:41PM +0100, Paul Huygen wrote: Andrew Nesbit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (about suitable kooks for LaTex): the Lamport one is a bit terse (more like an overview/reference) Well, I must say, that I couldn't disagree more. I think that the Lamport book is very well written, with amusing texts in the examples, about gnus, gnats and armadillo's. I wish that more handbooks were written like the Lamport book. When I started with LaTeX long ago, I read the first three chapters, and could then easily start. The book seems terse because it is concise, but it is the conciseness that helps you to make a quick start. A Guide to LaTeX2e by Helmut Kopka and Patrick W Daly is the book i chose over lamport's book. it seemed to be packed with much more information, and it got me through all my papers in college. (you didn't think i'd use a wordprocessor, did you?) -- }John Flinchbaugh{__ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hjsoft.com/~glynis/ | ~~Powered by Linux: Reboots are for hardware upgrades only~~ pgp4NetUn8BTN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?
Joel Mayes wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lamport's _LaTeX: A Document Preparation System_ and _The LaTeX Companion_ are good (the first is more of an introduction, the second a reference book). Also check out http://www.tug.org/interest.html for links to lots of good online documentation. I'd also recomend the LaTeX Graphics companion, if your going to be useing any graphics, Ignore the section on MusixTeX though it's out of date, and lilypond-book just as good a job with a lot less work. (no flames please) Cheers Joel All the books mentioned so far are excellent, but probably a bit tough for a first shot at LaTeX. The LaTeX Companion is definitely not suitable as a beginners book, the Lamport one is a bit terse (more like an overview/reference) and the Graphics one is really specialised. I have the book by Kopka Daly (3rd edition) and it is just wonderful. Fairly deep, but very easy going for the beginner, and certainly not an idiot's guide. The LaTeX Companion is the best /second/ book to buy on LaTeX, when you need to do tricky stuff that isn't covered in Kopka Daly, and this /will/ happen if you are serious about LaTeX. lshort is great if you want a free overview, but all it does is give you an overall flavour. Lamport you can get whenever; not a very important one IMHO, which is strange considering he (or is it she?) invented LaTeX. Graphics Companion is quite specialised. -Andrew P.S. Joel, I noticed your sig. Have you got any helpful anti-spam tips? (I am having /terrible/ problems with spam at the moment). - -- Go ahead try and spam me ... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.6 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE8O9OAFgrYE4V82aYRAqfcAKCL0wLNrUT5bkEM3z2otzz1K1NJqwCaAjLE i2p0KncbxnZe9LeIouat1so= =K40v -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?
Hi, On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Patrick Hsieh wrote: Hello, I am very new to LaTex. Is there any good books or documents recommended for me? Any recommends highly appreciated. :-) If you have installed LaTeX and it's documents on your system, go to /usr/share/doc/texmf/latex/general/ There you find the files guide, latex2e and lshort (read them in that order). Here it says pretty much about the latex basics. If you want to expand your knowledge, read the docs in /usr/share/doc/texmf/latex/. They belong to the packages. So for example, if you want to make mathematical documents, read /usr/share/doc/texmf/latex/amsmath/amsldoc.dvi.gz (by xdvi .../amsldoc.dvi.gz, there is no need to unzip it first). That was about everything I needed to start me off. If you are wondering about something, search the archives of comp.text.tex with google first. Then you can always ask a question in that newsgroup. Greetz, Sebastiaan -- NT is the OS of the future. The main engine is the 16-bit Subsystem (also called MS-DOS Subsystem). Above that, there is the windoze 95/98 16-bit Subsystem. Anyone can see that 16+16=32, so windoze NT is a *real* 32-bit system.
Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?
Sebastiaan == Sebastiaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sebastiaan Hi, Sebastiaan On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Patrick Hsieh wrote: Hello, I am very new to LaTex. Is there any good books or documents recommended for me? Any recommends highly appreciated. :-) Sebastiaan If you have installed LaTeX and it's documents on your Sebastiaan system, go to /usr/share/doc/texmf/latex/general/ And be sure to check texdoctk, which is a nice front-end to nearly all the LaTeX documentation on your system (see above, but not only the docs from general)... HTH, MH -- (Dr.) Michael Hummel mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fprint = F24D EAC6 E3D7 372C 9122 D510 EB24 01CA 0B56 B518 id: 1024D/0B56B518 key: http://www.seitung.net/key pgp45tulTAEHY.pgp Description: PGP signature
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There is also a doc file in Postscript : A not so short introduction to LaTeX 2e (the file is called lshort.ps), which is quite a good introduction. Gregor On Merkidi 09 Djanvî 2002 05:09, Patrick Hsieh wrote: Hello, I am very new to LaTex. Is there any good books or documents recommended for me? Any recommends highly appreciated. :-) -- Grégory Soyez Université de Liège Institut de Physique Allée du VI Août, Bât B5 B-4000 Sart-Tilman LIEGE 1 Tel : +32 (0)4 366 36 04 Fax: +32 (0)4 366 36 72
Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?
At 1010596167s since epoch (01/08/02 23:09:27 -0500 UTC), Patrick Hsieh wrote: Hello, I am very new to LaTex. Is there any good books or documents recommended for me? Any recommends highly appreciated. :-) I've never read the official Lamport books, but I own and love A Guide to LATEX: Document Preparation for Beginners and Advanced Users by Helmut Kopka and Patrick W. Daly. I picked it up when I first started learning LaTeX, and it gave me almost everything I needed to know to write my thesis (120 pages, illustrations, crossrefs, math typsetting, bibliography, etc). The book contains simple short chapters covering all the basics (page layout, fonts and sizes, graphics, math, commands), and has a nice command reference to find things quickly. The only thing I found lacking was a section on creating PDFs -- that technology has changed a fair amount since the book came out. However, the online docs cover that in enough detail, and are independent of the standard LaTeX typesetting commands. For quick reference, I also recommend using the LaTeX Quick Reference card found at http://www.refcards.com/ They won't help you learn LaTeX, but they're great for helping to remember those little details, and they're small enough to keep by your computer. Jason -- Jason Healy|[EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://www.logn.net/
any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?
Hello, I am very new to LaTex. Is there any good books or documents recommended for me? Any recommends highly appreciated. :-) -- Patrick Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG public key http://pahud.net/pubkeys/pahudatezplay.gpg
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Lamport's _LaTeX: A Document Preparation System_ and _The LaTeX Companion_ are good (the first is more of an introduction, the second a reference book). Also check out http://www.tug.org/interest.html for links to lots of good online documentation. -- Andrew J Perrin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.unc.edu/~aperrin Assistant Professor of Sociology, U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill 269 Hamilton Hall, CB#3210, Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3210 USA On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Patrick Hsieh wrote: Hello, I am very new to LaTex. Is there any good books or documents recommended for me? Any recommends highly appreciated. :-) -- Patrick Hsieh [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG public key http://pahud.net/pubkeys/pahudatezplay.gpg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 2002-01-09 12:09:27, Patrick Hsieh wrote: I am very new to LaTex. Is there any good books or documents recommended for me? Any recommends highly appreciated. :-) Latex - A Document Preparation System - User's Guide Reference Manual by Leslie Lamport is good. That said, I would be surprised if you cannot find everything you need online (or in your LaTex distribution). /Allan -- Allan M. Wind email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.O. Box 2022 finger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (GPG/PGP) Woburn, MA 01888-0022 USA pgpQZPJPV8zLD.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 12:09:27PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote: | Hello, | | I am very new to LaTex. Is there any good books or documents recommended | for me? Any recommends highly appreciated. :-) lshort (The Not So Short Introduction To LaTeX2e) Google will turn it up. Pick the most recent one you find. I just picked up Lamport's book yesterday, but haven't started it yet. -D -- Misfortune pursues the sinner, but prosperity is the reward for the righteous. Proverbs 13:21
Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lamport's _LaTeX: A Document Preparation System_ and _The LaTeX Companion_ are good (the first is more of an introduction, the second a reference book). Also check out http://www.tug.org/interest.html for links to lots of good online documentation. I'd also recomend the LaTeX Graphics companion, if your going to be useing any graphics, Ignore the section on MusixTeX though it's out of date, and lilypond-book just as good a job with a lot less work. (no flames please) Cheers Joel - -- Go ahead try and spam me ... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.6 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQE8O9OAFgrYE4V82aYRAqfcAKCL0wLNrUT5bkEM3z2otzz1K1NJqwCaAjLE i2p0KncbxnZe9LeIouat1so= =K40v -END PGP SIGNATURE-