Re: OT: useless pedantic argumentative noise: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-26 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 26 May 2012 01:48:15 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 On Thu, 24 May 2012 15:00:17 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jplie1$a15$1...@dough.gmane.org:
 
 On Wed, 23 May 2012 20:59:43 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
  On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:41:06 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jpj7fi$kr$2...@dough.gmane.org:
 
   ..that probably depends on the usefulness of your definition of
   $subject. ;o)
  
  There's no much room for guessing:
  
  ..no? ;o)
 
 Sure not. What's what you understand?
 
 ..er, why you carry onlike this? ;o)
 Withdrawn, yer'onnor! ;oD

(...)

I'm just trying you to understand what the problem of the OP _is_ but I'm 
starting to feel wasted with this and given the emptiness of your last 
comments, you neither seem to be interested on this. Game over.

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..solved: useless pedantic argumentative noise: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 26 May 2012 10:29:55 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message 
jpqbb3$dh7$6...@dough.gmane.org:

 On Sat, 26 May 2012 01:48:15 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

[...]
 
 I'm just trying you to understand what the problem of the OP _is_ but
 I'm starting to feel wasted with this and given the emptiness of your
 last comments, you neither seem to be interested on this. Game over.

..it is, it is.  Now, you may have missed a post (or 2?) in 
this thread, so here is where it all starts with OP's post:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/05/msg01735.html

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OT: useless pedantic argumentative noise: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 24 May 2012 15:00:17 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message 
jplie1$a15$1...@dough.gmane.org:

 On Wed, 23 May 2012 20:59:43 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
  On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:41:06 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jpj7fi$kr$2...@dough.gmane.org:
 
   ..that probably depends on the usefulness of your definition of
   $subject. ;o)
  
  There's no much room for guessing:
  
  ..no? ;o)
 
 Sure not. What's what you understand?

..er, why you carry onlike this? ;o)
Withdrawn, yer'onnor! ;oD

  $subject is the subject of this
  thread which -regardless its usefulness- states:
  
  ***
  Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in
  your sources.list
  ***
  
  ..ok, _that's_ your definition. ;o)
 
 My definition? No, it's what it can be read in the subject.

..$subject!=subject, and if you argue otherwise, 
you'll face a wee chicken-and-egg problem, one of us 
came here before the other one of us. ;o)

  Bug or feature?
  
  Does aptitude changelog need the corresponding deb-src entry in
  order to avoid the error message (E: You must put some 'source'
  URIs in your sources.list)?
  
  ..IMO both, 1.) a feature, because it does this thing differently
  than apt-get, which offers a viable workaround when a bug hits it,
  and 2.) a but, because aptitude's error message suggestion does not
  work her, because of a second bug.  We've covered this, no need
  to get too dizzy looping this bird over and over again.
 
 So you neither know. Okay, then please don't say _there's_ a bug ;-)

..we just disagree.  No big deal. ;o)

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-24 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 23 May 2012 20:59:43 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:41:06 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jpj7fi$kr$2...@dough.gmane.org:

  ..that probably depends on the usefulness of your definition of
  $subject. ;o)
 
 There's no much room for guessing:
 
 ..no? ;o)

Sure not. What's what you understand?

 $subject is the subject of this
 thread which -regardless its usefulness- states:
 
 ***
 Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your
 sources.list
 ***
 
 ..ok, _that's_ your definition. ;o)

My definition? No, it's what it can be read in the subject.

 Bug or feature?
 
 Does aptitude changelog need the corresponding deb-src entry in
 order to avoid the error message (E: You must put some 'source' URIs
 in your sources.list)?
 
 ..IMO both, 1.) a feature, because it does this thing differently than
 apt-get, which offers a viable workaround when a bug hits it, and 2.) a
 but, because aptitude's error message suggestion does not work her,
 because of a second bug.  We've covered this, no need to get too dizzy
 looping this bird over and over again.

So you neither know. Okay, then please don't say _there's_ a bug ;-)

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-23 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 23 May 2012 00:13:20 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:36:51 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jpgirj$isf$1...@dough.gmane.org:
 
 On Tue, 22 May 2012 19:26:49 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
  On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:04:15 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jpgddv$isf$1...@dough.gmane.org:
  
  Yes, the one listed in Debian BTS that handles the OP's issue (see
  $subject). Thanks :-)
  
  ..you too have been here long enough now to not trust those too far.
  ;o)
 
 Sorry, but no bug number means there's no real bug: before we can call
 it a bug we have to prove there's a problem ;-)
 
 ..aye, I was referring to your over-reliance on what you called
 $subject, you have not only seen, how wildly some of these threads
 morph everywhere else than what each OP asks etc for.

But the question is valid, the message is present so then, can we 
consider the $subject a bug or a feature?

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:50:21 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message 
jpitfd$kr$1...@dough.gmane.org:

 On Wed, 23 May 2012 00:13:20 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
  On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:36:51 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jpgirj$isf$1...@dough.gmane.org:
  
  On Tue, 22 May 2012 19:26:49 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
  
   On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:04:15 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in
   message jpgddv$isf$1...@dough.gmane.org:
   
   Yes, the one listed in Debian BTS that handles the OP's issue
   (see $subject). Thanks :-)
   
   ..you too have been here long enough now to not trust those too
   far. ;o)
  
  Sorry, but no bug number means there's no real bug: before we can
  call it a bug we have to prove there's a problem ;-)
  
  ..aye, I was referring to your over-reliance on what you called
  $subject, you have not only seen, how wildly some of these threads
  morph everywhere else than what each OP asks etc for.
 
 But the question is valid, the message is present so then, can we 
 consider the $subject a bug or a feature?

..that probably depends on the usefulness of your definition 
of $subject. ;o)

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-23 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:33:16 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:50:21 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jpitfd$kr$1...@dough.gmane.org:
 
 But the question is valid, the message is present so then, can we
 consider the $subject a bug or a feature?
 
 ..that probably depends on the usefulness of your definition of
 $subject. ;o)

There's no much room for guessing: $subject is the subject of this 
thread which -regardless its usefulness- states:

***
Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in
your sources.list
***

Bug or feature?

Does aptitude changelog need the corresponding deb-src entry in order 
to avoid the error message (E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your 
sources.list)?

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:41:06 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message 
jpj7fi$kr$2...@dough.gmane.org:

 On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:33:16 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
  On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:50:21 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jpitfd$kr$1...@dough.gmane.org:
  
  But the question is valid, the message is present so then, can we
  consider the $subject a bug or a feature?
  
  ..that probably depends on the usefulness of your definition of
  $subject. ;o)
 
 There's no much room for guessing:

..no? ;o)

 $subject is the subject of this 
 thread which -regardless its usefulness- states:
 
 ***
 Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs
 in your sources.list
 ***

..ok, _that's_ your definition. ;o)

 Bug or feature?
 
 Does aptitude changelog need the corresponding deb-src entry in
 order to avoid the error message (E: You must put some 'source' URIs
 in your sources.list)?

..IMO both, 1.) a feature, because it does this thing differently 
than apt-get, which offers a viable workaround when a bug hits it,
and 2.) a but, because aptitude's error message suggestion does
not work her, because of a second bug.  We've covered this, no 
need to get too dizzy looping this bird over and over again.

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-22 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 21 May 2012 20:42:17 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:00:40 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jpdlao$leu$7...@dough.gmane.org:
 
 On Mon, 21 May 2012 00:34:18 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

  ..in principle, yes, until the bug is fixed, that un-dramatic
  work-around is _precisely_ what's recommended by the aptitude bug fix
  team. ;o)
 
 Would you mind to send the bug# for this aptitude issue? Thanks.
 
 ..one? ;o) 

(...) 

Yes, the one listed in Debian BTS that handles the OP's issue (see 
$subject). Thanks :-)

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:04:15 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message 
jpgddv$isf$1...@dough.gmane.org:

 Yes, the one listed in Debian BTS that handles the OP's issue (see 
 $subject). Thanks :-)

..you too have been here long enough now to not trust those
too far. ;o)

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-22 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 22 May 2012 19:26:49 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:04:15 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jpgddv$isf$1...@dough.gmane.org:
 
 Yes, the one listed in Debian BTS that handles the OP's issue (see
 $subject). Thanks :-)
 
 ..you too have been here long enough now to not trust those too far. ;o)

Sorry, but no bug number means there's no real bug: before we can call it 
a bug we have to prove there's a problem ;-)

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:36:51 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message 
jpgirj$isf$1...@dough.gmane.org:

 On Tue, 22 May 2012 19:26:49 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
  On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:04:15 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jpgddv$isf$1...@dough.gmane.org:
  
  Yes, the one listed in Debian BTS that handles the OP's issue (see
  $subject). Thanks :-)
  
  ..you too have been here long enough now to not trust those too
  far. ;o)
 
 Sorry, but no bug number means there's no real bug: before we can
 call it a bug we have to prove there's a problem ;-)

..aye, I was referring to your over-reliance on what you called 
$subject, you have not only seen, how wildly some of these 
threads morph everywhere else than what each OP asks etc for.

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-21 Thread Curt
On 2012-05-20, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:

 This thread is about aptitude and and two bugs that it seems to have
 when using ...changelog..., not about apt-get. Do you suggest that
 someone use vi when they have a problem with emacs? Or GNOME and KDE?

I would suggest using a rolled-up newspaper if a fly-swatter wasn't
handy.


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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-21 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 21 May 2012 00:34:18 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:03:11 +0200, Tom wrote in message
 CAOdo=Sx_u1QqE5G=kzv1kz5cw0zxarkwuadw6c6xsypzkzz...@mail.gmail.com:
 
 On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
  On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:51:37 -0400, Tom wrote in message
  CAOdo=Sy+8WL1a90H1rAqyhhBkmsG_3Pjw4t=e0icyevzucn...@mail.gmail.com:
 
  Thanks but I didn't say that it didn't work with apt-get only that
  aptitude seems to need deb-src ... entries.
 
  ..aye, it's because apt-get and aptitude does these things
  _differently_, and that's handy when a bug in one program makes you
  try a work-around using the other.
 
 This thread is about aptitude and and two bugs that it seems to have
 when using ...changelog..., not about apt-get. Do you suggest that
 someone use vi when they have a problem with emacs? Or GNOME and KDE?
 Or ...? You could've also suggested reading changelogs on
 packages.debian.org as a workaround, it would nonetheless not have
 helped with aptitude. Or even, suggested that he switch to Fedora
 because rpm -q --changelog ... works.
 
 ..in principle, yes, until the bug is fixed, that un-dramatic
 work-around is _precisely_ what's recommended by the aptitude bug fix
 team. ;o)

Would you mind to send the bug# for this aptitude issue? Thanks.

Greetings,

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 21 May 2012 15:00:40 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message 
jpdlao$leu$7...@dough.gmane.org:

 On Mon, 21 May 2012 00:34:18 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
  On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:03:11 +0200, Tom wrote in message
  CAOdo=Sx_u1QqE5G=kzv1kz5cw0zxarkwuadw6c6xsypzkzz...@mail.gmail.com:
  
  On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
   On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:51:37 -0400, Tom wrote in message
   CAOdo=Sy+8WL1a90H1rAqyhhBkmsG_3Pjw4t=e0icyevzucn...@mail.gmail.com:
  
   Thanks but I didn't say that it didn't work with apt-get only
   that aptitude seems to need deb-src ... entries.
  
   ..aye, it's because apt-get and aptitude does these things
   _differently_, and that's handy when a bug in one program makes
   you try a work-around using the other.
  
  This thread is about aptitude and and two bugs that it seems to
  have when using ...changelog..., not about apt-get. Do you
  suggest that someone use vi when they have a problem with emacs?
  Or GNOME and KDE? Or ...? You could've also suggested reading
  changelogs on packages.debian.org as a workaround, it would
  nonetheless not have helped with aptitude. Or even, suggested that
  he switch to Fedora because rpm -q --changelog ... works.
  
  ..in principle, yes, until the bug is fixed, that un-dramatic
  work-around is _precisely_ what's recommended by the aptitude bug
  fix team. ;o)
 
 Would you mind to send the bug# for this aptitude issue? Thanks.

..one? ;o)  Google found me these 3290 in a 1/3 of a second:
http://www.google.no/search?sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=Debian+bug+aptitude+%22apt-get+changelog%22+work
e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/824708

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-20 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:51:37 -0400, Tom wrote in message
 CAOdo=Sy+8WL1a90H1rAqyhhBkmsG_3Pjw4t=e0icyevzucn...@mail.gmail.com:

 Thanks but I didn't say that it didn't work with apt-get only that
 aptitude seems to need deb-src ... entries.

 ..aye, it's because apt-get and aptitude does these things
 _differently_, and that's handy when a bug in one program
 makes you try a work-around using the other.

This thread is about aptitude and and two bugs that it seems to have
when using ...changelog..., not about apt-get. Do you suggest that
someone use vi when they have a problem with emacs? Or GNOME and KDE?
Or ...? You could've also suggested reading changelogs on
packages.debian.org as a workaround, it would nonetheless not have
helped with aptitude. Or even, suggested that he switch to Fedora
because rpm -q --changelog ... works.


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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 20 May 2012 19:03:11 +0200, Tom wrote in message 
CAOdo=Sx_u1QqE5G=kzv1kz5cw0zxarkwuadw6c6xsypzkzz...@mail.gmail.com:

 On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
  On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:51:37 -0400, Tom wrote in message
  CAOdo=Sy+8WL1a90H1rAqyhhBkmsG_3Pjw4t=e0icyevzucn...@mail.gmail.com:
 
  Thanks but I didn't say that it didn't work with apt-get only that
  aptitude seems to need deb-src ... entries.
 
  ..aye, it's because apt-get and aptitude does these things
  _differently_, and that's handy when a bug in one program
  makes you try a work-around using the other.
 
 This thread is about aptitude and and two bugs that it seems to have
 when using ...changelog..., not about apt-get. Do you suggest that
 someone use vi when they have a problem with emacs? Or GNOME and KDE?
 Or ...? You could've also suggested reading changelogs on
 packages.debian.org as a workaround, it would nonetheless not have
 helped with aptitude. Or even, suggested that he switch to Fedora
 because rpm -q --changelog ... works.

..in principle, yes, until the bug is fixed, that un-dramatic
work-around is _precisely_ what's recommended by the aptitude 
bug fix team. ;o)

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Tom H
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
 On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:

 You have no source repo listed.

 deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free

 ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines.

True, but aptitude changelog ... seems to require deb-src ... entries:

Without deb-src ...

# aptitude changelog grub-pc
Err Changelog of grub-pc
E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed.
E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc

With deb-src ...

# aptitude changelog grub-pc
Err Changelog of grub-pc
E: Changelog download failed: 404  Not Found
E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc


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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:25:25 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:
 
 You have no source repo listed.
 
 deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 
 ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines. 

(...)

If you want to get rid of the above error, yes _you do_ (see Tom's 
comment) ;-)

Anyway, I guess that can be a comestic error, the main problem was 
already reported in BTS (#669569).

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 19 May 2012 03:05:03 -0400, Tom wrote in message 
CAOdo=SxrT0Qr-4L7ug5qLdtz7XTe4qcoA=rsjlx1oj2vq8y...@mail.gmail.com:

 On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
  On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:
 
  You have no source repo listed.
 
  deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 
  ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines.
 
 True, but aptitude changelog ... seems to require deb-src ...
 entries:
 
 Without deb-src ...
 
 # aptitude changelog grub-pc
 Err Changelog of grub-pc
 E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
 E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed.
 E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc
 
 With deb-src ...
 
 # aptitude changelog grub-pc
 Err Changelog of grub-pc
 E: Changelog download failed: 404  Not Found
 E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc

..aye.  Now try 'apt-get changelog grub-pc ', both ways. ;o) 

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:13:52 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message 
jp7ko0$27j$6...@dough.gmane.org:

 On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:25:25 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
  On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:
  
  You have no source repo listed.
  
  deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
  
  ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines. 
 
 (...)
 
 If you want to get rid of the above error, yes _you do_ (see Tom's 
 comment) ;-)

..really? ;o)
root@celsius:~# apt-get changelog grub-pc
Get:1 Changelog for grub-pc
(http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/grub2/grub2_1.99-21/changelog)
[134 kB] 
Fetched 134 kB in 3s (38.5 kB/s) 
root@celsius:~# grep ^deb /etc/apt/sources.list 
deb http://192.168.1.140/debian sid main contrib non-free 
root@celsius:~# 

 Anyway, I guess that can be a comestic error, the main problem was 
 already reported in BTS (#669569).
 
 Greetings,
 


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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 18:47:34 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:13:52 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jp7ko0$27j$6...@dough.gmane.org:
 
 On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:25:25 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
  On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:
  
  You have no source repo listed.
  
  deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
  
  ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines.
 
 (...)
 
 If you want to get rid of the above error, yes _you do_ (see Tom's
 comment) ;-)
 
 ..really? ;o)

With aptitude, yes ;-)

 root@celsius:~# apt-get changelog grub-pc 
 Get:1 Changelog for grub-pc 
 (http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/grub2/grub2_1.99-21/changelog)
 [134 kB]
 Fetched 134 kB in 3s (38.5 kB/s)
 root@celsius:~# grep ^deb /etc/apt/sources.list 
 deb http://192.168.1.140/debian sid main contrib non-free 
 root@celsius:~#

sm01@stt008:~$ LANG=C; apt-get changelog grub-pc
E: Invalid operation changelog

And lenny does not have that option as available.

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 05:04:02PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 You have no source repo listed.
 
 deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free 

You don't need one. The only reason you'd need one is if you are going
to be compiling any software.

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 May 2012 05:39:29 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 05:04:02PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 You have no source repo listed.
 
 deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 
 You don't need one. The only reason you'd need one is if you are going
 to be compiling any software.

Try yourself and then comment on the results.

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2012 03:05:03 -0400, Tom wrote in message
 CAOdo=SxrT0Qr-4L7ug5qLdtz7XTe4qcoA=rsjlx1oj2vq8y...@mail.gmail.com:

 On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
  On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:
 
  You have no source repo listed.
 
  deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 
  ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines.

 True, but aptitude changelog ... seems to require deb-src ...
 entries:

 Without deb-src ...

 # aptitude changelog grub-pc
 Err Changelog of grub-pc
 E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
 E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed.
 E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc

 With deb-src ...

 # aptitude changelog grub-pc
 Err Changelog of grub-pc
 E: Changelog download failed: 404  Not Found
 E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc

 ..aye.  Now try 'apt-get changelog grub-pc ', both ways. ;o)

Thanks but I didn't say that it didn't work with apt-get only that
aptitude seems to need deb-src ... entries.


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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2012 18:47:34 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:13:52 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jp7ko0$27j$6...@dough.gmane.org:
 On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:25:25 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
  On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:
 
  You have no source repo listed.
 
  deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 
  ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines.

 (...)

 If you want to get rid of the above error, yes _you do_ (see Tom's
 comment) ;-)

 ..really? ;o)

 With aptitude, yes ;-)

 root@celsius:~# apt-get changelog grub-pc
 Get:1 Changelog for grub-pc 
 (http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/grub2/grub2_1.99-21/changelog)
 [134 kB]
 Fetched 134 kB in 3s (38.5 kB/s)
 root@celsius:~# grep ^deb /etc/apt/sources.list
 deb http://192.168.1.140/debian sid main contrib non-free
 root@celsius:~#

 sm01@stt008:~$ LANG=C; apt-get changelog grub-pc
 E: Invalid operation changelog

 And lenny does not have that option as available.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=526990


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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Indulekha
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 05:46:41PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 20 May 2012 05:39:29 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 
  On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 05:04:02PM +, Camaleón wrote:
  You have no source repo listed.
  
  deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
  
  You don't need one. The only reason you'd need one is if you are going
  to be compiling any software.
 
 Try yourself and then comment on the results.
 

Having to get by on teensy-weensy amounts of bandwidth means this
squeeze install has *never* had deb-src entries in sources.list.
Never got an error from it...

It's either a bug, or perhaps something is installed which is only
available from a deb-src entry.

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:51:37 -0400, Tom wrote in message 
CAOdo=Sy+8WL1a90H1rAqyhhBkmsG_3Pjw4t=e0icyevzucn...@mail.gmail.com:

 Thanks but I didn't say that it didn't work with apt-get only that
 aptitude seems to need deb-src ... entries.

..aye, it's because apt-get and aptitude does these things
_differently_, and that's handy when a bug in one program 
makes you try a work-around using the other.

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:57:50 -0400, Tom H wrote:

 On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

(...)

 sm01@stt008:~$ LANG=C; apt-get changelog grub-pc 
 E: Invalid operation changelog

 And lenny does not have that option as available.
 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=526990

Yup, I know it's available by now so it had to be added sometime after 
lenny was released :-)

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aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-18 Thread Adrian Fita
Hi. Anybody else experience this?

# aptitude changelog ntp
Err Changelog of ntp
E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed.
E: Couldn't find a changelog for ntp

My sources.list:

http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/
stable main non-free

I saw an older bug report regarding this [1]. Has the issue come back?

 1. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587775

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-18 Thread Adrian Fita
On 18/05/12 19:45, Adrian Fita wrote:

 I saw an older bug report regarding this [1]. Has the issue come back?
 
  1. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587775

Sorry, I meant to paste this:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=556952 .

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-05-18 18:45 +0200, Adrian Fita wrote:

 Hi. Anybody else experience this?

 # aptitude changelog ntp
 Err Changelog of ntp
 E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

This is #587775, as you have noticed.

 E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed.

And that is #669569 which is tagged as pending, so will hopefully be
fixed in aptitude 0.6.8.

 My sources.list:

 http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/
 stable main non-free

 I saw an older bug report regarding this [1]. Has the issue come back?

Not sure what you mean by come back, because…

  1. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587775

…that bug has never been marked as fixed.

Cheers,
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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:45:11 +0300, Adrian wrote in message 
4fb67c97.9030...@gmail.com:

 Hi. Anybody else experience this?
 
 # aptitude changelog ntp
 Err Changelog of ntp
 E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
 E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed.
 E: Couldn't find a changelog for ntp
 
 My sources.list:
 
 http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/
 stable main non-free
 
 I saw an older bug report regarding this [1]. Has the issue come back?
 
  1. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587775
 

..nope.  Your first line needs to first say deb , then
comes an uri, in your duh case http://cdn.debian.org; etc,
like in your other working lines.

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-18 Thread Adrian Fita
On 18/05/12 20:00, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:45:11 +0300, Adrian wrote in message 
 4fb67c97.9030...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi. Anybody else experience this?

 # aptitude changelog ntp
 Err Changelog of ntp
 E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
 E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed.
 E: Couldn't find a changelog for ntp

 My sources.list:

 http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/
 stable main non-free

 I saw an older bug report regarding this [1]. Has the issue come back?

  1. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587775

 
 ..nope.  Your first line needs to first say deb , then
 comes an uri, in your duh case http://cdn.debian.org; etc,
 like in your other working lines.

Yeah, poor pasting-skils. My sources.list contains in fact the correct
first-line:

deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-18 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:45:11 +0300, Adrian Fita wrote:

 Hi. Anybody else experience this?
 
 # aptitude changelog ntp
 Err Changelog of ntp
 E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list 
 E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed. 
 E: Couldn't find a changelog for ntp
 
 My sources.list:
 
 http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free 
 ^

There's a missing deb there.

 deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free 
 deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/ stable 
 main non-free

(...)

You have no source repo listed.

deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free 

For the remainder errors (which I also get), there's an open bug:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=669569

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-18 Thread Adrian Fita
On 18/05/12 19:58, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2012-05-18 18:45 +0200, Adrian Fita wrote:
 
 Hi. Anybody else experience this?

 # aptitude changelog ntp
 Err Changelog of ntp
 E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
 
 This is #587775, as you have noticed.
 
 E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed.
 
 And that is #669569 which is tagged as pending, so will hopefully be
 fixed in aptitude 0.6.8.
 
 My sources.list:

 http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
 deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia/
 stable main non-free

 I saw an older bug report regarding this [1]. Has the issue come back?
 
 Not sure what you mean by come back, because…
 
  1. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587775
 
 …that bug has never been marked as fixed.
 
 Cheers,
Sven

Ok. Thanks everyone for the quick answer. Now, by looking at the bugs
reported against aptitude I understand that there are
quite a few issues with changelogs.

I was mainly using the UI, in which changelog (Chift+C) worked (I was
experiencing #587775) and today I noticed that this also stopped working
(#669569). Then I noticed that the CLI is also brokend. So.. yeah...
I'll just wait for things to get better.

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message 
jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:

 You have no source repo listed.
 
 deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free 

..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines.
Which again begs the why Debian at all etc philosophical etc 
cans of worms. ;o)

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