Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric A. Bonney wrote: Ken Hu wrote: Dear All: I am a linux and OSx user and I really need to know which filesystem really can work on both Linux and Mac OSx I've found an open source project which tries to make Mac able to read ext2 filesystem. I gave it a try but it just doesn't work. The purpose I need this is for my usb external harddisk, I wish I can plug it to mac and linux box. Does anyone have any successful experience ? Ken I might be off here, but I thought that Samba would work. Of course I am still trying to figure out how to get Samba to work with my WinXP Pro network in my house also. :D But samba is not a file system, is it? vfat might be a filesystem accessible for both (I don't know about Mac). Johannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVV3aC1NzPRl9qEURArr1AJ43OjJrBMRe8O/2zVOvKc6fgBmeMgCff/IA fSFqbNIkA5cHs0Pz+N/5o/4= =pmcc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 23:53 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/23/07 20:40, Ken Hu wrote: Well , I think the filsystem my mac uses is HFS, but I can find no way to mount HFS on Linux. Of course my Mac can read cdrom or dvdrom, but what I need is to plug my usb external hard drive to my mac just as my original post said. The hfs hfs+ drivers might not (probably aren't??) built by default. You'd have to roll your own kernel. Not too difficult. Installing hfsplus and hfsutils should do it... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 07:05, Owen Heisler wrote: On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 23:53 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/23/07 20:40, Ken Hu wrote: Well , I think the filsystem my mac uses is HFS, but I can find no way to mount HFS on Linux. Of course my Mac can read cdrom or dvdrom, but what I need is to plug my usb external hard drive to my mac just as my original post said. The hfs hfs+ drivers might not (probably aren't??) built by default. You'd have to roll your own kernel. Not too difficult. Installing hfsplus and hfsutils should do it... Those utilities haven't been updated since 1998. http://www.mars.org/home/rob/proj/hfs/version.html I'd go with the kernel drivers. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVZAsS9HxQb37XmcRAtZZAJ0fuaQxnssITXfTes3lFKqG3xItJQCZAQP8 o4g+MUAOYgIfPTpLr8YqNss= =cyV8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/24/07 04:41, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Eric A. Bonney wrote: Ken Hu wrote: Dear All: I am a linux and OSx user and I really need to know which filesystem really can work on both Linux and Mac OSx I've found an open source project which tries to make Mac able to read ext2 filesystem. I gave it a try but it just doesn't work. The purpose I need this is for my usb external harddisk, I wish I can plug it to mac and linux box. Does anyone have any successful experience ? Ken I might be off here, but I thought that Samba would work. Of course I am still trying to figure out how to get Samba to work with my WinXP Pro network in my house also. :D But samba is not a file system, is it? vfat might be a filesystem accessible for both (I don't know about Mac). Correct. SMB is a file- print-server network protocol. http://us1.samba.org/samba/what_is_samba.html - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVZFVS9HxQb37XmcRAt2pAKCJ/zIwkdeEOGWi2vBxd0pq1nmMPQCgk1hX pzsQEz8zn/NV5gemEmAOxnw= =03jz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
Linux should and does work fine with HFS+ as I used my iBook G4 the othe rnight in target disk mode and mounted it on my athlon64 (using Mepis), worked flawlessly. Fat32 (vfat) works with Macs, NTFS won't. OS X will get ZFS with v10.5, if they added XFS too it'd make life so much easier! Kelly
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/23/07 20:40, Ken Hu wrote: ¼ Wed 2007-05-23 ¼ 21:25 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty Ð0 What filesystems can your Mac OSx read and write? Well , I think the filsystem my mac uses is HFS, but I can find no way to mount HFS on Linux. Of course my Mac can read cdrom or dvdrom, but what I need is to plug my usb external hard drive to my mac just as my original post said. The hfs hfs+ drivers might not (probably aren't??) built by default. You'd have to roll your own kernel. Not too difficult. They are built as module in Etch kernel (2.6.18-4). So your root partition cannot be hfs unless you recompile the kernel. Also, i am not sure about boot partition, because i don't know if grub supports it. If you need boot partition, i would try lilo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
Marko Randjelovic wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/23/07 20:40, Ken Hu wrote: ¼ Wed 2007-05-23 ¼ 21:25 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty Ð0 What filesystems can your Mac OSx read and write? Well , I think the filsystem my mac uses is HFS, but I can find no way to mount HFS on Linux. Of course my Mac can read cdrom or dvdrom, but what I need is to plug my usb external hard drive to my mac just as my original post said. The hfs hfs+ drivers might not (probably aren't??) built by default. You'd have to roll your own kernel. Not too difficult. They are built as module in Etch kernel (2.6.18-4). So your root partition cannot be hfs unless you recompile the kernel. Also, i am not sure about boot partition, because i don't know if grub supports it. If you need boot partition, i would try lilo. The OP was interested in support for an external USB hard disk, to be shared between a Mac and PC. So, probably not to be used for booting. The modules are hfs.ko and hfsplus.ko. If you want them available all the time, you can add 'hfs' and 'hfsplus' on separate lines in the /etc/modules file. Bob smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 05:29:40PM +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote: The hfs hfs+ drivers might not (probably aren't??) built by default. You'd have to roll your own kernel. Not too difficult. They are built as module in Etch kernel (2.6.18-4). So your root partition cannot be hfs unless you recompile the kernel. Also, i am not ext3 is also a module so I guess it works if you include the module in the initrd. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
On Thu, 24 May 2007 09:15 +0800 Ken Hu wrote:
I am a linux and OSx user and I really need to know which filesystem
really can work on both Linux and Mac OSx
The purpose I need this is for my usb external harddisk, I wish I can
plug it to mac and linux box.
1.
Mac OSX uses the HFS+ filesystem.
You can use the Mac Disk Utility to partition the disk and put the HFS+
('HFS extended') filesystem on it.
In Linux, as root do
modprobe hfsplus
and the usb disk can be mounted like any other disk.
If it works then put the line
hfsplus
into /etc/modules, so you will never have to 'modprobe' again.
Usually, the device used is /dev/sda2, so I have this line
in /etc/fstab:
/dev/sda2 /media/hfsplus auto rw,user,noauto 0 0
2.
As you may have noticed when e-mailing a mac file or putting it on a
different filesystem, the so-called resource fork gets lost. This
affects Mac fonts in the first place; they become totally unusable.
To deal with this, you could install the 'hfsplus' package, which
allows you to transform the mac file into a MacBin file or a BinHex
file (the latter being the Mac equivalent of Base64), so no information
will be lost when transforming it back.
It will also transform Mac text files to Unix text files, including the
encoding (so special characters remain correct), and vice versa. But
'recode' can do this as well.
3.
Mac OSX will also work with the (older) HFS filesystem.
You can use the Mac Disk Utility to partition the disk and put the HFS
filesystem on it. In Linux, as root do 'modprobe hfs' or add the line
'hfs' (without the quotes) to /etc/modules.
'hfsutils' for HFS does the same as 'hfsplus' for HFS+.
There is a graphical version of hfsutils called xhfs, part of
hfsutils-tcltk. It works in Sarge, but alas, not in Etch and Lenny any
more, probably because the new glibc version clashes with it. I hope it
will be solved some time.
See this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=421457
4.
You could use the Mac Disk Utility to partition the disk and put the
'DOS filesystem' on it, or use Linux to make it a vfat filesystem.
Both Mac and Linux will be able to access it, although it does not
address the problem with the 'resource fork' mentioned above.
However, there is a way to keep the Mac files undamaged using the vfat
filesystem: use Darwin's X-Terminal to 'tar' your stuff:
tar cf mydir.tar mydir
Every compressed form, such as .tar.bz2 or .tar.gz, will also do.
When putting the .tar.* files back to the Mac later on, and untarring
them, which can be done by simply doubleclicking them, they will appear
to be undamaged.
5.
As a last remark, the Mac Disk Utility can put the UFS or 'Unix File
System' on the disk. Odd enough, I never could make Linux recognize it.
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ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
Dear All: I am a linux and OSx user and I really need to know which filesystem really can work on both Linux and Mac OSx I've found an open source project which tries to make Mac able to read ext2 filesystem. I gave it a try but it just doesn't work. The purpose I need this is for my usb external harddisk, I wish I can plug it to mac and linux box. Does anyone have any successful experience ? Ken -- Linux is the only reason why I still consider to buy a PC. VISTA: Very Impotent System , Think Again ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 09:15:03AM +0800, Ken Hu wrote: I am a linux and OSx user and I really need to know which filesystem really can work on both Linux and Mac OSx I've found an open source project which tries to make Mac able to read ext2 filesystem. I gave it a try but it just doesn't work. The purpose I need this is for my usb external harddisk, I wish I can plug it to mac and linux box. What filesystems can your Mac OSx read and write? Then check Debian's man mount and see if there is some overlap. If you just need to read, what about iso9660 as used for CDs? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
於 Wed，2007-05-23 於 21:25 -0400，Douglas Allan Tutty 提到： What filesystems can your Mac OSx read and write? Well , I think the filsystem my mac uses is HFS, but I can find no way to mount HFS on Linux. Of course my Mac can read cdrom or dvdrom, but what I need is to plug my usb external hard drive to my mac just as my original post said. Ken -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
Ken Hu wrote: Dear All: I am a linux and OSx user and I really need to know which filesystem really can work on both Linux and Mac OSx I've found an open source project which tries to make Mac able to read ext2 filesystem. I gave it a try but it just doesn't work. The purpose I need this is for my usb external harddisk, I wish I can plug it to mac and linux box. Does anyone have any successful experience ? Ken I might be off here, but I thought that Samba would work. Of course I am still trying to figure out how to get Samba to work with my WinXP Pro network in my house also. :D -Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 09:40:45AM +0800, Ken Hu wrote: 於 Wed，2007-05-23 於 21:25 -0400，Douglas Allan Tutty 提到： What filesystems can your Mac OSx read and write? Well , I think the filsystem my mac uses is HFS, but I can find no way to mount HFS on Linux. Of course my Mac can read cdrom or dvdrom, but what I need is to plug my usb external hard drive to my mac just as my original post said. man mount under -t lists hfs. Later, there's a section for hfs specific options. Looks like you're set for hfs. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ask for suggestion: which filesystem suits for both Linux and Mac OSx
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/23/07 20:40, Ken Hu wrote: 於 Wed，2007-05-23 於 21:25 -0400，Douglas Allan Tutty 提到： What filesystems can your Mac OSx read and write? Well , I think the filsystem my mac uses is HFS, but I can find no way to mount HFS on Linux. Of course my Mac can read cdrom or dvdrom, but what I need is to plug my usb external hard drive to my mac just as my original post said. The hfs hfs+ drivers might not (probably aren't??) built by default. You'd have to roll your own kernel. Not too difficult. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGVRpFS9HxQb37XmcRAlpDAJ902p07Qx6CCh9/RW7gynzH0KkUDwCfe1lY U/AeyqO5FmrjRWWgEu5+vq0= =rjE8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
