Re: backb losing its mount point

2021-03-31 Thread songbird
Sharon Kimble wrote:
> Thanks for replying Darac.
...
>> It might be helpful to see the relevant lines from your /etc/fstab.
>>
> - --8<--- current fstab ---start->8---
> /dev/sda2   /mnt/backb  ext4defaults,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 
> 2
> /dev/sdb2 /mnt/backa  ext4defaults,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 2
> - --8<---cut here---end--->8---
>
> because the system originally showed this
>
> - --8<--- original fstab ---start->8---
> /dev/sda2   /mnt/backa  ext4defaults,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 
> 2
> /dev/sdb2 /mnt/backb  ext4defaults,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 2
> - --8<---cut here---end--->8---
>   
> but for some reason it mounted backb on /dev/sda2 so to regain access I
> changed it to what is currently showing in fstab.

  um, that is a prime example of why UUIDs or LABELS should be used
instead of what you have there because /dev/sdXY names can change 
after a reboot or a device gets disconnected and reconnected.


...

  you can use blkid to give you the UUID and if you've given the
partition/filesystem a LABEL it will also report that.

  update your fstab to use either of those.


  songbird



Re: backb losing its mount point

2021-03-31 Thread Sharon Kimble
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Darac Marjal  writes:

> On 31/03/2021 09:32, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>>
>> I'm hoping that you folks can help me with a problem that is now
>> happening reasonably regularly, actually twice.
>>
>> I have 2 data drives on my system /mnt/backa and /mnt/backb. Both are
>> 4tb drives, with backa being 2.74tb and backb 2.81tb.
>
> It might be helpful to see the relevant lines from your /etc/fstab.
>
>
>>
>> Backb is now regularly losing its mount point when I reboot, meaning
>> that only backa is mounted, and backb holds my restic backup.
>>
>> To regain access to backb I'm having to 'sudo e2fsck -y -b 32768
>> /dev/sdc2' which rebuilds the mount point such that I can mount it on
>> reboot, as backb.
>
> Firstly, it's usually better to run the "fsck" frontend, which will
> determine which filesystem you've got and run the appropriate backend,
> but I can see that you're passing advanced parameters here, so jumping
> straight to e2fsck isn't that unusual.
>
> Secondly, you're specifying "-b 32768" which is telling fsck to use a
> secondary superblock. Why is this? Generally, the primary superblock
> should be "good enough" to repair a filesystem. The man page does state
> that the primary superblock *should* be updated after the fixes are
> complete, so this shouldn't be necessary. So, why are you having to use
> a secondary superblock? Do you know what's wrong with the primary one?
>
>
>>
>> So how do I stop it happening again please? And what is the cause of it
>> all? Should I physically unmount the drives before rebooting?
>
> The answers you seek should already be logged somewhere.  Try the following:
>
> $ journalctl -b -u mnt-backb.mount        # 
> This will show output from
> attempts to mount /mnt/backb since the current bootup
>
> $ journalctl -b -g sdc2                              # This will grep
> the journal for all messages containing "sdc2" since the current bootup
>

Following on from my previous posting -

- --8<---cut here---start->8---
 sudo journalctl -b -g sdc2
[sudo] password for boudiccas: 
- -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-02-18 12:51:54 GMT, ends at Wed 2021-03-31 
12:31:04 BST. --
Mar 31 08:21:47 london kernel:  sdc: sdc1 sdc2 sdc3 sdc4 sdc5 sdc6 sdc7
Mar 31 12:29:51 london sudo[323326]: boudiccas : TTY=pts/28 ; 
PWD=/home/boudiccas ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/journalctl -b -g sdc2
Mar 31 12:31:04 london sudo[437870]: boudiccas : TTY=pts/30 ; 
PWD=/home/boudiccas/.emacs.d/org ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/journalctl -b 
-g sdc2
- --8<---cut here---end--->8---

and also

- --8<---cut here---start->8---
sudo journalctl -b -u /mnt/backb.mount
- -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-02-18 12:51:54 GMT, ends at Wed 2021-03-31 
12:31:50 BST. --
- -- No entries --
- --8<---cut here---end--->8---

and

- --8<---cut here---start->8---
sudo journalctl -b -u mnt-backb.mount
- -- Journal begins at Thu 2021-02-18 12:51:54 GMT, ends at Wed 2021-03-31 
12:36:23 BST. --
Mar 31 08:21:54 london systemd[1]: Mounting /mnt/backb...
Mar 31 08:21:54 london systemd[1]: Mounted /mnt/backb.
- --8<---cut here---end--->8---

Thanks
  Sharon.
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Re: backb losing its mount point

2021-03-31 Thread Sharon Kimble
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Darac Marjal  writes:

Thanks for replying Darac.
  
> On 31/03/2021 09:32, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>>
>> I'm hoping that you folks can help me with a problem that is now
>> happening reasonably regularly, actually twice.
>>
>> I have 2 data drives on my system /mnt/backa and /mnt/backb. Both are
>> 4tb drives, with backa being 2.74tb and backb 2.81tb.
>
> It might be helpful to see the relevant lines from your /etc/fstab.
>
- --8<--- current fstab ---start->8---
/dev/sda2   /mnt/backb  ext4defaults,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 2
/dev/sdb2   /mnt/backa  ext4defaults,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 2
- --8<---cut here---end--->8---

because the system originally showed this

- --8<--- original fstab ---start->8---
/dev/sda2   /mnt/backa  ext4defaults,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 2
/dev/sdb2   /mnt/backb  ext4defaults,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 2
- --8<---cut here---end--->8---
  
but for some reason it mounted backb on /dev/sda2 so to regain access I
changed it to what is currently showing in fstab.
  
>
>>
>> Backb is now regularly losing its mount point when I reboot, meaning
>> that only backa is mounted, and backb holds my restic backup.
>>
>> To regain access to backb I'm having to 'sudo e2fsck -y -b 32768
>> /dev/sdc2' which rebuilds the mount point such that I can mount it on
>> reboot, as backb.
>
> Firstly, it's usually better to run the "fsck" frontend, which will
> determine which filesystem you've got and run the appropriate backend,
> but I can see that you're passing advanced parameters here, so jumping
> straight to e2fsck isn't that unusual.
>
> Secondly, you're specifying "-b 32768" which is telling fsck to use a
> secondary superblock. Why is this? Generally, the primary superblock
> should be "good enough" to repair a filesystem. The man page does state
> that the primary superblock *should* be updated after the fixes are
> complete, so this shouldn't be necessary. So, why are you having to use
> a secondary superblock? Do you know what's wrong with the primary one?
>
When the problem originally occurred this is what i did

- --8<---cut here---start->8---
 2184  2021-03-18 13:32:51 sudo mount /mnt/backb
 2185  2021-03-18 13:39:33 mount
 2186  2021-03-18 13:43:32 fdisk -l
 2187  2021-03-18 13:43:46 sudo fdisk -l
 2188  2021-03-18 13:48:05 sudo lshw 
 2189  2021-03-18 13:54:04 sudo fdisk /dev/sdc
2192  2021-03-18 14:10:04 sudo mount /mnt/backb
 2193  2021-03-18 14:11:58 sudo fsck /mnt/backb
 2194  2021-03-18 14:12:48 sudo e2fsck -b 32768 /mnt/backb
 2195  2021-03-18 14:13:10 sudo e2fsck -b 32768 /dev/sdc
 2196  2021-03-18 14:13:58 sudo e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/sdc
 2197  2021-03-18 14:18:46 sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sdc2
 2198  2021-03-18 14:19:16 sudo mke4fs -n /dev/sdc2
 2199  2021-03-18 14:19:54 sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sdc2
2202  2021-03-18 14:02:17 glances
 2203  2021-03-18 14:19:33 man mke2fs
 2204  2021-03-18 13:54:51 sudo fdisk /dev/sdc2
 2205  2021-03-18 13:31:11 sudo gparted
2210  2021-03-18 14:32:49 sudo mke2fs -n /dev/sdc2
 2211  2021-03-18 14:34:32 sudo e2fsck
 2212  2021-03-18 14:35:14 sudo e2fsck p
 2213  2021-03-18 14:35:31 sudo e2fsck /dev/sdc -p
 2214  2021-03-18 14:29:51 sudo gparted
 2215  2021-03-18 14:36:28 sudo e2fsck -b 32768 /dev/sdc2
 2216  2021-03-18 14:45:56 man e2fsck
 2217  2021-03-18 14:46:38 sudo e2fsck -y -b 32768 /dev/sdc2
- --8<---cut here---end--->8---
  

>
>>
>> So how do I stop it happening again please? And what is the cause of it
>> all? Should I physically unmount the drives before rebooting?
>
> The answers you seek should already be logged somewhere.  Try the following:
>
> $ journalctl -b -u mnt-backb.mount        # 
> This will show output from
> attempts to mount /mnt/backb since the current bootup

- --8<---cut here---start->8---
journalctl -b -u mnt-backb.mount
Hint: You are currently not seeing messages from other users and the system.
  Users in groups 'adm', 'systemd-journal' can see all messages.
  Pass -q to turn off this notice.
- -- Journal begins at Wed 2021-02-24 17:51:13 GMT, ends at Wed 2021-03-31 
11:08:09 BST. --
- -- No entries --
- --8<---cut here---end--->8---


  
>
> $ journalctl -b -g sdc2                              # This will grep
> the journal for all messages containing "sdc2" since the current bootup
>

- --8<---cut here---start->8---
journalctl -b -g sdc2
Hint: You are currently not seeing messages from other users and the system.
  Users in groups 'adm', 'systemd-journal' can see all messages.
  Pass -q to turn off this notice.
- -- Journal begins at Wed 2021-02-24 17:51:13 GMT, ends at Wed 2021-03-31 

Re: backb losing its mount point

2021-03-31 Thread Darac Marjal

On 31/03/2021 09:32, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>
> I'm hoping that you folks can help me with a problem that is now
> happening reasonably regularly, actually twice.
>
> I have 2 data drives on my system /mnt/backa and /mnt/backb. Both are
> 4tb drives, with backa being 2.74tb and backb 2.81tb.

It might be helpful to see the relevant lines from your /etc/fstab.


>
> Backb is now regularly losing its mount point when I reboot, meaning
> that only backa is mounted, and backb holds my restic backup.
>
> To regain access to backb I'm having to 'sudo e2fsck -y -b 32768
> /dev/sdc2' which rebuilds the mount point such that I can mount it on
> reboot, as backb.

Firstly, it's usually better to run the "fsck" frontend, which will
determine which filesystem you've got and run the appropriate backend,
but I can see that you're passing advanced parameters here, so jumping
straight to e2fsck isn't that unusual.

Secondly, you're specifying "-b 32768" which is telling fsck to use a
secondary superblock. Why is this? Generally, the primary superblock
should be "good enough" to repair a filesystem. The man page does state
that the primary superblock *should* be updated after the fixes are
complete, so this shouldn't be necessary. So, why are you having to use
a secondary superblock? Do you know what's wrong with the primary one?


>
> So how do I stop it happening again please? And what is the cause of it
> all? Should I physically unmount the drives before rebooting?

The answers you seek should already be logged somewhere.  Try the following:

$ journalctl -b -u mnt-backb.mount        # 
This will show output from
attempts to mount /mnt/backb since the current bootup

$ journalctl -b -g sdc2                              # This will grep
the journal for all messages containing "sdc2" since the current bootup


>
> Thanks
>   Sharon.
>




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backb losing its mount point

2021-03-31 Thread Sharon Kimble
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I'm hoping that you folks can help me with a problem that is now
happening reasonably regularly, actually twice.

I have 2 data drives on my system /mnt/backa and /mnt/backb. Both are
4tb drives, with backa being 2.74tb and backb 2.81tb.

Backb is now regularly losing its mount point when I reboot, meaning
that only backa is mounted, and backb holds my restic backup.

To regain access to backb I'm having to 'sudo e2fsck -y -b 32768
/dev/sdc2' which rebuilds the mount point such that I can mount it on
reboot, as backb.

So how do I stop it happening again please? And what is the cause of it
all? Should I physically unmount the drives before rebooting?

Thanks
  Sharon.
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