Re: bad new large hard disk? [chirps]
Richard E. Hawkins wrote: I sent this earlier, but it doesn't seem to have made it to hte list . . . This weekend, I tried installing the 20G IBM drive I picked up on vacation, and I think it has serious problem s :( It chirps, which seems to come haveter a major (loud) move of the heads. The bios can find the drive about half the time, and reports possible geometry choices, the least number of cylinders being 2053 or so. Neiter cfdisk nor fdisk, nor the FreeBSD utilities, can read the disk, reporting various timeout problems. The FreeBSD bootloader noticed that the disk existed--once. I've tried reading it on two different computers: the K6 on a Shuttle 603 where it's supposed to live, and on an IBM P133. Neither has been able to fdisk it. If this was a sub-1024 clinder disk, I'd have called to have it replaced by now. I'm hoping that I'm missing something that would let me initialize the disk and be on my way. hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. Smeal 178(814) 375-4700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] These opinions will not be those of Penn State until it pays my retainer. -- Seems like your disk is pretty much dead. There has been reports earlier of IBM's being bad or getting bad very quickly. My guess is they've accidentally sold a bad production run, and some of these are still lying around waiting to be sold replaced... Good Luck Vitux -- I'm not a crook Richard Nixon Debian GNU/Linux Micro$loth-free Zone
RE: bad new large hard disk? [chirps]
Richard E. Hawkins wrote: This weekend, I tried installing the 20G IBM drive I picked up on vacation, and I think it has serious problem s :( It chirps, which seems to come haveter a major (loud) move of the heads. The bios can find the drive about half the time, and reports possible geometry choices, the least number of cylinders being 2053 or so. You could try finding and running the IBM Drive Fitness Test. It's on their web site somewhere and creates a bootable DOS floppy. You might need Windows to do that bit. When my 20GB IBM drive was misbehaving a few months ago I did this, and the test told me my drive was faulty. It's nice to be told that before going to the trouble of sending it back. Good luck, Paul
Re: bad new large hard disk? [chirps]
Paul Pondered Richard E. Hawkins wrote: You could try finding and running the IBM Drive Fitness Test. It's on their web site somewhere and creates a bootable DOS floppy. You might need Windows to do that bit. I found the like; it's at www.ibm.com/harddrives, then off to http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/welcome.htm It then tries to link to http://www.ontrack.com/dataadvisor/, but the domain doesn't seem to exist . . . I sent a comment, but who knows when they'll get back to me. hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. Smeal 178(814) 375-4700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] These opinions will not be those of Penn State until it pays my retainer.
bad new large hard disk? [chirps]
I sent this earlier, but it doesn't seem to have made it to hte list . . . This weekend, I tried installing the 20G IBM drive I picked up on vacation, and I think it has serious problem s :( It chirps, which seems to come haveter a major (loud) move of the heads. The bios can find the drive about half the time, and reports possible geometry choices, the least number of cylinders being 2053 or so. Neiter cfdisk nor fdisk, nor the FreeBSD utilities, can read the disk, reporting various timeout problems. The FreeBSD bootloader noticed that the disk existed--once. I've tried reading it on two different computers: the K6 on a Shuttle 603 where it's supposed to live, and on an IBM P133. Neither has been able to fdisk it. If this was a sub-1024 clinder disk, I'd have called to have it replaced by now. I'm hoping that I'm missing something that would let me initialize the disk and be on my way. hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. Smeal 178(814) 375-4700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] These opinions will not be those of Penn State until it pays my retainer.
Re: bad new large hard disk? [chirps]
Is said disk IDE or SCSI, if IDE and your motherboard is over 18 months or so old you will need to flash the motherboard bios. However it should be silent and should still detect as a smaller disk, if I get a hard drive that chirps my supplier gets a prompt request for a replacement. Jeff Richard E. Hawkins wrote: I sent this earlier, but it doesn't seem to have made it to hte list . . . This weekend, I tried installing the 20G IBM drive I picked up on vacation, and I think it has serious problem s :( It chirps, which seems to come haveter a major (loud) move of the heads. The bios can find the drive about half the time, and reports possible geometry choices, the least number of cylinders being 2053 or so. Neiter cfdisk nor fdisk, nor the FreeBSD utilities, can read the disk, reporting various timeout problems. The FreeBSD bootloader noticed that the disk existed--once. I've tried reading it on two different computers: the K6 on a Shuttle 603 where it's supposed to live, and on an IBM P133. Neither has been able to fdisk it. If this was a sub-1024 clinder disk, I'd have called to have it replaced by now. I'm hoping that I'm missing something that would let me initialize the disk and be on my way. hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. Smeal 178(814) 375-4700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] These opinions will not be those of Penn State until it pays my retainer. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: bad new large hard disk? [chirps]
Jeff Green wrote: Is said disk IDE or SCSI, if IDE IDE. I can't afford scsi :) and your motherboard is over 18 months or so old you will need to flash the motherboard bios. Uh, oh :) It's from the first set of 603's that worked (once they dropped the third sdram slot), so it's near the end of '97, I think (nearly three years?). *can* a bios be flashed from linux of *bsd? However it should be silent and should still detect as a smaller disk, Jeff It's detecting with the correct number of cylinders. Do I still need a flash? And does anyone know where shuttle/spacewalker has hid the information on the 603? I haven't found it on the last couple of trips to the site. (I presume that the board was short lived, as it was a specialty board: be the first to market with the via/amd chipset, unofficially run stably at 83mhz [oops? we put those settings on the chip :) ], and a 1M cache.) if I get a hard drive that chirps my supplier gets a prompt request for a replacement. Unfortunately, the supplier is in San Diego, and I'm in Pennsylvania, so I assume I'll deal with IBM. The chirp isn't a sqeak; I'm not convinced that it's not a result of what the motherboard is telling it to do . . . hawk
Re: bad new large hard disk? [chirps]
I don't think that the information that I give right now is applicable to your case due to the chirp issue you mention, but as I've found working HDDs that also chirp, I've thought this would be interesting for you. In the case of a defective electrical installation, if the computer is not earthed, it can cause lots of annoying problems like Kernel Panics, schizophrenic BIOS behaviour, and very annoying little electrical shocks when you manipulate the PC's intestines. Don't know how are the electrical supplies in your country, but in Catalonia are a wide and unknown problem. If the PC's were behaving without complain before you wanted to install the HDD, I'd give it back to your vendor. At 17.08 21/8/00 -0400, heu escrit: I sent this earlier, but it doesn't seem to have made it to hte list . . . This weekend, I tried installing the 20G IBM drive I picked up on vacation, and I think it has serious problem s :( It chirps, which seems to come haveter a major (loud) move of the heads. The bios can find the drive about half the time, and reports possible geometry choices, the least number of cylinders being 2053 or so. Neiter cfdisk nor fdisk, nor the FreeBSD utilities, can read the disk, reporting various timeout problems. The FreeBSD bootloader noticed that the disk existed--once. I've tried reading it on two different computers: the K6 on a Shuttle 603 where it's supposed to live, and on an IBM P133. Neither has been able to fdisk it. If this was a sub-1024 clinder disk, I'd have called to have it replaced by now. I'm hoping that I'm missing something that would let me initialize the disk and be on my way. hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. Smeal 178(814) 375-4700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] These opinions will not be those of Penn State until it pays my retainer. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null _ \___||/ \__| els fills abandonats |___/ \_||__/ from BarcelonaCatalonia ___ Do You Yahoo!? Achetez, vendez! À votre prix! Sur http://encheres.yahoo.fr
