Re: casablanca

2012-01-09 Thread steef

Scott Ferguson schreef:

On 08/01/12 04:59, steef wrote:

hi all!

maybe this question does not belong on this maybe it does: however... as
a long time debian user i give it a try in the hope a kind soul can be
of some help

a friend of mine is a birdwatcher and makes movies of woodpeckers with
youngs in their nest; a tedious job of weeks of observation etc. with
three cameras in our sometime horrible dutch climate.

he tried to put the images of these three cameras together with a piece
of german hardware called casablanca running on opensource software
(guess what!) called bogart. the hd-capacity of the hardware is 500 GB.
type 2000S. software type unknown. he put the output-images (raw) an
enormous quantity of a couple of terabytes on 4 external hd's. he could
not open any of the images (collected in projects) anymore so he came to
me. with mplayer and some experiments in /etc/fstab and /mnt, gparted
and mkfs.ext3 i could mount some parts of one of the hdś and make the
images visible again on a partition in one of my machines, however,
without sound.

sorry for this long introduction.

my question: is there somebody out there who knows more of the
casablanca 2000S and the software called bogart?

thank you,

regards,

steef




Pretty sure the format was AVCHD (mpeg .mt2s files), sounds like
you've found ffmpeg will handle the video (using libavcodec).

You might also try ffdshow tryouts:-
http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/

Sound is probably PCM (for quality), but could be AC-3



Cheers




thanks scott. this could be of substantial help.

reg.,

steef


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[OT] Re: casablanca

2012-01-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:59:32 +, steef wrote:

 hi all!
 
 maybe this question does not belong on this maybe it does: however... as
 a long time debian user i give it a try in the hope a kind soul can be
 of some help

I'm earning points for my parcel at heaven O:-)

 a friend of mine is a birdwatcher and makes movies of woodpeckers with
 youngs in their nest; a tedious job of weeks of observation etc. with
 three cameras in our sometime horrible dutch climate.
 
 he tried to put the images of these three cameras together with a piece
 of german hardware called casablanca running on opensource software
 (guess what!) called bogart. the hd-capacity of the hardware is 500 GB.
 type 2000S. software type unknown. he put the output-images (raw) an
 enormous quantity of a couple of terabytes on 4 external hd's. he could
 not open any of the images (collected in projects) anymore so he came to
 me. with mplayer and some experiments in /etc/fstab and /mnt, gparted
 and mkfs.ext3 i could mount some parts of one of the hdś and make the
 images visible again on a partition in one of my machines, however,
 without sound.
 
 sorry for this long introduction.

Long introduction was required to fully understand the problematic.

Okay, Google returned this:

http://www.macrosystem.us/index.php?pr=S3000

So I think your friend's appliance would be similar (maybe an older 
version). It seems to be a dedicated computer for managing (input/output) 
high ammounts of multimedia data which uses its own software for handling 
the files (import/export and editing operations).

The fact that your were able to reproduce the images but no sound it 
could indicate the files are using an audio codec not installed in your 
machine. 

What's the output of file run over one of those raw files? Are they 
video or just plain images? I ask this because sometimes, high-end 
multimedia systems split video files in separate chuncks of video and 
audio tracks for quick access and software manipulation.

 my question: is there somebody out there who knows more of the
 casablanca 2000S and the software called bogart?

I would also ask to the company tech support guys, they will provide more 
information about the raw format used by Casablanca, audio and video 
codecs, etc...

Greetings,

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Re: [OT] Re: casablanca

2012-01-08 Thread steef


thanks for your response.

look down here further

Camaleón schreef:

On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:59:32 +, steef wrote:


hi all!

maybe this question does not belong on this maybe it does: however... as
a long time debian user i give it a try in the hope a kind soul can be
of some help


I'm earning points for my parcel at heaven O:-)


guess you do!



a friend of mine is a birdwatcher and makes movies of woodpeckers with
youngs in their nest; a tedious job of weeks of observation etc. with
three cameras in our sometime horrible dutch climate.

he tried to put the images of these three cameras together with a piece
of german hardware called casablanca running on opensource software
(guess what!) called bogart. the hd-capacity of the hardware is 500 GB.
type 2000S. software type unknown. he put the output-images (raw) an
enormous quantity of a couple of terabytes on 4 external hd's. he could
not open any of the images (collected in projects) anymore so he came to
me. with mplayer and some experiments in /etc/fstab and /mnt, gparted
and mkfs.ext3 i could mount some parts of one of the hdś and make the
images visible again on a partition in one of my machines, however,
without sound.

sorry for this long introduction.


Long introduction was required to fully understand the problematic.

Okay, Google returned this:

http://www.macrosystem.us/index.php?pr=S3000


i saw that one


So I think your friend's appliance would be similar (maybe an older
version).


correct

It seems to be a dedicated computer for managing (input/output)

high ammounts of multimedia data which uses its own software for handling
the files (import/export and editing operations).


correct too


The fact that your were able to reproduce the images but no sound it
could indicate the files are using an audio codec not installed in your
machine.


well: the reality knows more nuances. the files i can reproduce do not produce 
environmental sounds. the files i cannot reproduce give one short image 
followed by coloured 'rubble' (is that the proper term ?) and some 
environmental sound. very funny indeed.


What's the output of file run over one of those raw files? Are they
video or just plain images? I ask this because sometimes, high-end
multimedia systems split video files in separate chuncks of video and
audio tracks for quick access and software manipulation.


these video-files are spilt in separate files; on their turn split in separate 
chunks of about 7 or 8 GBs. mplayer opens them as raw files with the (ffmpeg) 
mpeg2 codes.



my question: is there somebody out there who knows more of the
casablanca 2000S and the software called bogart?


I would also ask to the company tech support guys, they will provide more
information about the raw format used by Casablanca, audio and video
codecs, etc...


my brother did. the dutch importer was of good will; his representatives too 
but they could not provide any help. the german chaps said bluntly they could 
and would not provide any help. (they seem only to be happy to help their own 
money-bags with opensource software).


I'll provide you with the output of the mplayer-console somewhat later today. 
first i must startup our business again. tomorrow we start working all over in 
a new year.


Greetings,


kind regards,

steef


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Re: [OT] Re: casablanca

2012-01-08 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 16:08:07 +, steef wrote:

 thanks for your response.
 
 look down here further
 
 Camaleón schreef:

(...)

 The fact that your were able to reproduce the images but no sound it
 could indicate the files are using an audio codec not installed in your
 machine.
 
 well: the reality knows more nuances. the files i can reproduce do not
 produce environmental sounds. the files i cannot reproduce give one
 short image followed by coloured 'rubble' (is that the proper term ?)
 and some environmental sound. very funny indeed.

He... maybe they are separated video files and sound files. Question here 
is how to join them again. 

But let me ask you something, what was the workflow for the videos? Were 
the cameras (input devices) directly connected to/processed by Casablanca 
or your friend just copied the video files to the external device and 
then wanted to import them into Casablanca?

In brief, what device generated the raw files, the cameras or Casablanca?

 What's the output of file run over one of those raw files? Are they
 video or just plain images? I ask this because sometimes, high-end
 multimedia systems split video files in separate chuncks of video and
 audio tracks for quick access and software manipulation.
 
 these video-files are spilt in separate files; on their turn split in
 separate chunks of about 7 or 8 GBs. mplayer opens them as raw files
 with the (ffmpeg) mpeg2 codes.

If the files were directly processed by Casablanca I wonder why your 
friend cannot open the files from Bogart's software provided by the 
manufacturer :-?

 I would also ask to the company tech support guys, they will provide
 more information about the raw format used by Casablanca, audio and
 video codecs, etc...
 
 my brother did. the dutch importer was of good will; his representatives
 too but they could not provide any help. the german chaps said bluntly
 they could and would not provide any help. (they seem only to be happy
 to help their own money-bags with opensource software).

(...)

How bad... if I were your friend I would ask for the source code of that 
system, Bogart, just to annoy them a bit :-)

There is a forum, you can also try there:

http://www.casablancaforum.us/

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casablanca

2012-01-07 Thread steef

hi all!

maybe this question does not belong on this maybe it does: however... as a 
long time debian user i give it a try in the hope a kind soul can be of some help


a friend of mine is a birdwatcher and makes movies of woodpeckers with youngs 
in their nest; a tedious job of weeks of observation etc. with three cameras 
in our sometime horrible dutch climate.


he tried to put the images of these three cameras together with a piece of 
german hardware called casablanca running on opensource software (guess what!) 
called bogart. the hd-capacity of the hardware is 500 GB. type 2000S. software 
type unknown. he put the output-images (raw) an enormous quantity of a couple 
of terabytes on 4 external hd's. he could not open any of the images 
(collected in projects) anymore so he came to me. with mplayer and some 
experiments in /etc/fstab and /mnt, gparted and mkfs.ext3 i could mount some 
parts of one of the hdś and make the images visible again on a partition in 
one of my machines, however, without sound.


sorry for this long introduction.

my question: is there somebody out there who knows more of the casablanca 
2000S and the software called bogart?


thank you,

regards,

steef



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