Re: [OT]Re: any utility to change ip
On Monday 23 September 2013 12:54:42 Chris Bannister wrote: Here, some people (esp. the media) have this annoying habit of saying dub dub dub instead of WWW What about dubya dubya dubya? I always hear that as Dubya (i.e. a name!). ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201310032312.35230.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: [OT]Re: any utility to change ip
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 11:12:35PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 23 September 2013 12:54:42 Chris Bannister wrote: Here, some people (esp. the media) have this annoying habit of saying dub dub dub instead of WWW What about dubya dubya dubya? I always hear that as Dubya (i.e. a name!). ;-) You mean like George Dubya Bush? :) -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131004035416.GD13589@tal
Re: any utility to change ip
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: Bob Proulx a écrit : OT Rant: It annoys me that recent Linux kernels reverse the order of the route lines. Previously it would have been scanned from top to bottom and the first line matching wins. But now it is upside down and must be scanned from bottom to top. Can you please elaborate ? The order of routes displayed by ip r and route -n used to be from larger to smaller masks but it's now from smaller to larger masks. So now the default route (mask 0.0.0.0) is displayed at the top of the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SzUszarPT40iCnrnktvO37D-swET6QyqHK=4prkhhv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: any utility to change ip
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: On 9/20/2013 4:21 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 17 iul 13, 18:43:22, Gary Dale wrote: ifconfig can be used to both query and change the ip addresses of network interfaces on your machine. Used with no arguments, it lists all known interfaces and gives a lot of information about them. It's still in use in Jessie so reports of its demise may be premature. 'ip a' (short for 'ip addr') shows almost the same information, is available to users without using the full path and is shorter to type ;) Sure, it's ALMOST the same information. But it doesn't show everything ifconfig does. ifconfig and route are deprecated (1). If you mean by doesn't show everything ifconfig does that ip a doesn't show the TX and RX stats, then yes it doesn't, but they're of no interest in 99% of cases when running ifconfig. And you can get them with ip -s l if you need them. 1) http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/iproute2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SyspoAwY__C8ppewwutrGx5=oqw4tzgvawbv2j8qdm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT]Re: any utility to change ip
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 04:41:53PM +, Curt wrote: What's really interesting is that people say WWW (nine syllables), instead of World Wide Web (three). Here, some people (esp. the media) have this annoying habit of saying dub dub dub instead of WWW Akela should feed them to the wolfpack for plagarism. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130923115441.GC10219@tal
Re: [OT]Re: any utility to change ip
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 23:54 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 04:41:53PM +, Curt wrote: What's really interesting is that people say WWW (nine syllables), instead of World Wide Web (three). Here, some people (esp. the media) have this annoying habit of saying dub dub dub instead of WWW In German it's similar to [we][we][we] (not completely correct phonetic script), don't confuse it with the word we [wi:]. Not double u double u double u. They say [we][we][we] in the media privately we often simply say foo.com without the www. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1379938482.1022.163.camel@archlinux
[OT]Re: any utility to change ip
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:21:13 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 17 iul 13, 18:43:22, Gary Dale wrote: ifconfig can be used to both query and change the ip addresses of network interfaces on your machine. Used with no arguments, it lists all known interfaces and gives a lot of information about them. It's still in use in Jessie so reports of its demise may be premature. 'ip a' (short for 'ip addr') shows almost the same information, is available to users without using the full path and is shorter to type ;) Kind regards, Andrei It's quite interesting people always use 'IP' as short for 'IP address'. I've never seen 'IPA', which is obviously most correct, most logical and most natural. -- Marko Ranđelović, B.Sc. Software Developer Niš, Serbia marko...@eunet.rs http://mr.flossdaily.org Note: If you see a nonsense enclosed between lines BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE END PGP SIGNATURE then this message is digitally signed using OpenPGP compliant software. You need an appropriate plugin for your email client or other OpenPGP compliant software in order to verify the signature. However, the concept of computer insecurity implies digital signature is not absolute proof of identity. Note: If you see a nonsense enclosed between lines BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE END PGP SIGNATURE then this message is digitally signed using OpenPGP compliant software. You need an appropriate plugin for your email client or other OpenPGP compliant software in order to verify the signature. However, the concept of computer insecurity implies digital signature is not absolute proof of identity. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130922092747.71afd...@eunet.rs
Re: [OT]Re: any utility to change ip
On Sun, 2013-09-22 at 09:27 +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote: -- Marko Ranđelović, B.Sc. Software Developer Niš, Serbia marko...@eunet.rs http://mr.flossdaily.org Note: If you see a nonsense enclosed between lines BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE END PGP SIGNATURE then this message is digitally signed using OpenPGP compliant software. You need an appropriate plugin for your email client or other OpenPGP compliant software in order to verify the signature. However, the concept of computer insecurity implies digital signature is not absolute proof of identity. Note: If you see a nonsense enclosed between lines BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE END PGP SIGNATURE then this message is digitally signed using OpenPGP compliant software. You need an appropriate plugin for your email client or other OpenPGP compliant software in order to verify the signature. However, the concept of computer insecurity implies digital signature is not absolute proof of identity. Your signature contains duplicated information and this information sent one time already is a little bit long, please consider to send this paragraph just one time. TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1379836720.742.290.camel@archlinux
Re: [OT]Re: any utility to change ip
On 2013-09-22, Marko Randjelovic marko...@eunet.rs wrote: It's quite interesting people always use 'IP' as short for 'IP address'. I've never seen 'IPA', which is obviously most correct, most logical and most natural. What's really interesting is that people say WWW (nine syllables), instead of World Wide Web (three). That is if I'm counting my syllables better than I count my characters (missing both Space and Enter in another thread. Of course Jerry missed Enter and he's an expurt). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl3u7fd.2u4.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: any utility to change ip
Hello, Bob Proulx a écrit : OT Rant: It annoys me that recent Linux kernels reverse the order of the route lines. Previously it would have been scanned from top to bottom and the first line matching wins. But now it is upside down and must be scanned from bottom to top. Can you please elaborate ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/523f37e2.50...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: any utility to change ip
Pascal Hambourg wrote: Bob Proulx a écrit : OT Rant: It annoys me that recent Linux kernels reverse the order of the route lines. Previously it would have been scanned from top to bottom and the first line matching wins. But now it is upside down and must be scanned from bottom to top. Can you please elaborate ? In Linux 2.6.32 in Debian Squeeze 6 the kernel would print the route table in normal order. That is the same order as Unix and BSD did. (Example from a laptop with a vpn and some interesting routes for the example.) $ route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 172.27.61.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 tun0 192.168.240.0 172.27.61.1 255.255.255.0 UG0 00 tun0 192.168.224.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 wlan0 192.168.230.0 172.27.61.1 255.255.255.0 UG0 00 tun0 0.0.0.0 192.168.224.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 wlan0 $ ip route show 172.27.61.1 dev tun0 proto kernel scope link src 172.27.61.4 192.168.240.0/24 via 172.27.61.1 dev tun0 192.168.224.0/24 dev wlan0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.224.102 192.168.230.0/24 via 172.27.61.1 dev tun0 default via 192.168.224.1 dev wlan0 When determining a route for any particular network packet you can look at this as a table from top to bottom. That is convenient and matches normal human brain thinking. Let's say I am sending a ping to a device on my local subnet 192.168.224.10. First try to match against 172.27.61.1. No match. Then try against 192.168.240.0/24. No match. Then try against 192.168.224.0/24. Yes. Matched. Send the packet directly to wlan0 on the local subnet. Let's say I am sending a ping to www.debian.org on address 128.31.0.51. I would try to match against the first line with 172.27.61.1 (a host route). No match. Then try to match against 192.168.240.0/24, then 192.168.224.0/24, then 192.168.230.0/24. No matches. Then match against default. Yes, match, send the packet to the interface indicated. But on Linux 3.2.0 in Debian Wheezy 7 the Linux kernel has reversed the order that it prints this output. This is a simpler set of routes but as you can see they are reversed in order from previously. $ route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 0.0.0.0 192.168.240.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 192.168.240.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 $ ip route show default via 192.168.240.1 dev eth0 192.168.240.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.240.12 If on this machine I were to ping www.debian.org on address 128.31.0.51 I first have to mentally start at the bottom of the list and attempt a match against 192.168.240.0/24 first and then try to match against the top entry second. If you start matching at the top you would wrongly send all packets to the default interface. So on newer Linux systems I say that the printed display is upside down and we have to mentally match entries from bottom to top now. Of course this is just the display for human understanding. The programmed code in the kernel does what it does at machine speed and efficiency. It isn't upside down there. It is just the display. In the kernel it doesn't matter what order it is displayed to the user. But for me as a user trying to understand the routing configuration I find the new reversed ordering to be less nice than the former. When trying to explain and teach how networking and routing works to newbies this just adds additional noise and confusion to the problem. Also the former is how Unix and BSD and other systems have always displayed it. Linux is now different for no good reason. Bob P.S. I know I can pipe through tac to reverse the output. But I shouldn't have to do so. And this doesn't work nicely for 'route' which has headers. $ ip route show | tac 192.168.230.0/24 dev br0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.230.119 default via 192.168.230.1 dev br0 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: any utility to change ip
On Mi, 17 iul 13, 18:43:22, Gary Dale wrote: ifconfig can be used to both query and change the ip addresses of network interfaces on your machine. Used with no arguments, it lists all known interfaces and gives a lot of information about them. It's still in use in Jessie so reports of its demise may be premature. 'ip a' (short for 'ip addr') shows almost the same information, is available to users without using the full path and is shorter to type ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: any utility to change ip
On 9/20/2013 4:21 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 17 iul 13, 18:43:22, Gary Dale wrote: ifconfig can be used to both query and change the ip addresses of network interfaces on your machine. Used with no arguments, it lists all known interfaces and gives a lot of information about them. It's still in use in Jessie so reports of its demise may be premature. 'ip a' (short for 'ip addr') shows almost the same information, is available to users without using the full path and is shorter to type ;) Kind regards, Andrei Sure, it's ALMOST the same information. But it doesn't show everything ifconfig does. As for shorter to type - 8 characters vs. 4 characters? Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/523c4a15.8090...@attglobal.net
Re: any utility to change ip
On 2013-09-20, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: 'ip a' (short for 'ip addr') shows almost the same information, is available to users without using the full path and is shorter to type ;) Sure, it's ALMOST the same information. But it doesn't show everything ifconfig does. As for shorter to type - 8 characters vs. 4 characters? I count 8 vs. 3 characters. ip a makes 3, doesn't it? And then you're not including in the 8 count the extra characters a regular Joe must type to specify the full path to the ifconfig executable: /sbin/ So let's see, that would be: 14 characters vs. 3 characters. And I think you neglected to take his winky into account too. ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl3oop6.2kr.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: any utility to change ip
On 9/20/2013 11:00 AM, Curt wrote: On 2013-09-20, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: 'ip a' (short for 'ip addr') shows almost the same information, is available to users without using the full path and is shorter to type ;) Sure, it's ALMOST the same information. But it doesn't show everything ifconfig does. As for shorter to type - 8 characters vs. 4 characters? I count 8 vs. 3 characters. ip a makes 3, doesn't it? You need the space, also. And then you're not including in the 8 count the extra characters a regular Joe must type to specify the full path to the ifconfig executable: /sbin/ A regular joe won't be able to change the ip address. So let's see, that would be: 14 characters vs. 3 characters. And I think you neglected to take his winky into account too. ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/523c74ed.1010...@attglobal.net
Re: any utility to change ip
Jerry Stuckle wrote: Andrei POPESCU wrote: Gary Dale wrote: ifconfig can be used to both query and change the ip addresses of network interfaces on your machine. Used with no arguments, it lists all known interfaces and gives a lot of information about them. It's still in use in Jessie so reports of its demise may be premature. 'ip a' (short for 'ip addr') shows almost the same information, is available to users without using the full path and is shorter to type ;) Sure, it's ALMOST the same information. But it doesn't show everything ifconfig does. Actually it is the other way around. The older ifconfig doesn't show everything the newer ip command shows. Because newer functionality and features have been added to the Linux kernel and ifconfig can't show those things. Such as ip addresses that are aliases but which do not have a campatibility label. Those are invisible to ifconfig but will be displayed with ip. Now of course you might say that you never use those so this is no problem for you. But ifupdown and other tools do and so in general when looking at any random system there isn't a way to know if those are going to be in use or not. Therefore one must be at least aware of 'ip' in order to be able to dump and debug such configurations. As for shorter to type - 8 characters vs. 4 characters? $ echo ifconfig | wc -c 9 $ echo ip a | wc -c 5 Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: any utility to change ip
On 9/20/2013 12:11 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Andrei POPESCU wrote: Gary Dale wrote: ifconfig can be used to both query and change the ip addresses of network interfaces on your machine. Used with no arguments, it lists all known interfaces and gives a lot of information about them. It's still in use in Jessie so reports of its demise may be premature. 'ip a' (short for 'ip addr') shows almost the same information, is available to users without using the full path and is shorter to type ;) Sure, it's ALMOST the same information. But it doesn't show everything ifconfig does. Actually it is the other way around. The older ifconfig doesn't show everything the newer ip command shows. Because newer functionality and features have been added to the Linux kernel and ifconfig can't show those things. Such as ip addresses that are aliases but which do not have a campatibility label. Those are invisible to ifconfig but will be displayed with ip. Now of course you might say that you never use those so this is no problem for you. But ifupdown and other tools do and so in general when looking at any random system there isn't a way to know if those are going to be in use or not. Therefore one must be at least aware of 'ip' in order to be able to dump and debug such configurations. If you don't use those features (and most people don't), who cares about them? Sure, ifupdown and other tools use them - IF YOU USE THEM. But if not, it's immaterial. As for shorter to type - 8 characters vs. 4 characters? $ echo ifconfig | wc -c 9 $ echo ip a | wc -c 5 Bob You're counting an extra space which is not required. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/523c75ae.8080...@attglobal.net
Re: any utility to change ip
Jerry Stuckle wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Now of course you might say that you never use those so this is no problem for you. But ifupdown and other tools do and so in general when looking at any random system there isn't a way to know if those are going to be in use or not. Therefore one must be at least aware of 'ip' in order to be able to dump and debug such configurations. If you don't use those features (and most people don't), who cares about them? Sure, ifupdown and other tools use them - IF YOU USE THEM. But if not, it's immaterial. Except that it isn't immaterial when it happens to be configured. And when people have things screwed up they don't know what they don't know. I have helped people who were following cutting and pasting of various snippets found on the net and they swore they hadn't done anything except they had configured exactly this problem. And because they were only using ifconfig they were blind to the problem. And I dare say that ifupdown is a very heavily used tool. As for shorter to type - 8 characters vs. 4 characters? $ echo ifconfig | wc -c 9 $ echo ip a | wc -c 5 You're counting an extra space which is not required. What extra space? The one between ip and a? That isn't extra. It is a required keystroke. It does not work without it. But even though I counted them out I don't think this is golf. The shortest number of keystrokes is not a very useful measure to the touch typist. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: any utility to change ip
On 9/20/2013 1:43 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Now of course you might say that you never use those so this is no problem for you. But ifupdown and other tools do and so in general when looking at any random system there isn't a way to know if those are going to be in use or not. Therefore one must be at least aware of 'ip' in order to be able to dump and debug such configurations. If you don't use those features (and most people don't), who cares about them? Sure, ifupdown and other tools use them - IF YOU USE THEM. But if not, it's immaterial. Except that it isn't immaterial when it happens to be configured. And when people have things screwed up they don't know what they don't know. I have helped people who were following cutting and pasting of various snippets found on the net and they swore they hadn't done anything except they had configured exactly this problem. And because they were only using ifconfig they were blind to the problem. And I dare say that ifupdown is a very heavily used tool. Sure, if people blindly cut/paste snippets without knowing what they are doing, it's hard telling what they have screwed up. And even though ifupdown is a very heavily used tool, if you're not using those features, it is immaterial. As for shorter to type - 8 characters vs. 4 characters? $ echo ifconfig | wc -c 9 $ echo ip a | wc -c 5 You're counting an extra space which is not required. What extra space? The one between ip and a? That isn't extra. It is a required keystroke. It does not work without it. Please show me how the characters string ip a comes out to 5 characters. I count 4. But even though I counted them out I don't think this is golf. The shortest number of keystrokes is not a very useful measure to the touch typist. Bob But not everyone is a touch typist, either. There are a lot of poke and hope people out there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/523c8bf9.5080...@attglobal.net
Re: any utility to change ip
Jerry Stuckle wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: $ echo ip a | wc -c 5 You're counting an extra space which is not required. What extra space? The one between ip and a? That isn't extra. It is a required keystroke. It does not work without it. Please show me how the characters string ip a comes out to 5 characters. I count 4. Did you forget the Enter key? 1 i 2 p 3 SPACE 4 a 5 ENTER Any number of keys less than that number doesn't produce a useful result. But even though I counted them out I don't think this is golf. The shortest number of keystrokes is not a very useful measure to the touch typist. But not everyone is a touch typist, either. There are a lot of poke and hope people out there. Then you would like the route dump then too. ip r Which is the short abbreviation for: ip route show Which is the information previously available from: netstat -nr route -n OT Rant: It annoys me that recent Linux kernels reverse the order of the route lines. Previously it would have been scanned from top to bottom and the first line matching wins. But now it is upside down and must be scanned from bottom to top. Grr... Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: any utility to change ip
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 01:01:41PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Did you forget the Enter key? 1 i 2 p 3 SPACE 4 a 5 ENTER root@tal:~# echo ip a|wc -m 5 Ahh! implicit ENTER -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130920202731.GA23342@tal
Re: any utility to change ip
On 20 September 2013 17:27, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 01:01:41PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Did you forget the Enter key? 1 i 2 p 3 SPACE 4 a 5 ENTER root@tal:~# echo ip a|wc -m 5 Ahh! implicit ENTER -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130920202731.GA23342@tal -- Dr Beco A.I. researcher Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye. (H. Jackson Brown Jr.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALuYw2ws2oMMUv+6r-PiVex+KSot7TnRW8T2N8wF5P6M=kf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: any utility to change ip
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Re: any utility to change ip
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 06:16:57PM -0400, doug wrote: it did not find any MAC adresses, nor did it produce the name of the printer at 120. Here's the output: [doug@Dell ~]$ sudo arpscan -p 192.168.1.0/24 Password: 00:15:C5:A8:8A:7A 192.168.1.103 00:23:69:BC:D3:36 192.168.1.1 50:E5:49:B3:A2:51 192.168.1.102 00:0E:7F:E3:77:B7 192.168.1.101 Hewlett Packard 00:26:AB:FA:BB:58 192.168.1.120 it doesn't produce names of anything, it just decodes the network card vendor from the mac address. Device names need some kind of name resolution service such as dns or netbios names used by samba. mk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130718080859.GC13281@finrod
Re: any utility to change ip
On 18/07/13 09:08, Martin Kraus wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 06:16:57PM -0400, doug wrote: it did not find any MAC adresses, nor did it produce the name of the printer at 120. Here's the output: [doug@Dell ~]$ sudo arpscan -p 192.168.1.0/24 Password: 00:15:C5:A8:8A:7A 192.168.1.103 00:23:69:BC:D3:36 192.168.1.1 50:E5:49:B3:A2:51 192.168.1.102 00:0E:7F:E3:77:B7 192.168.1.101 Hewlett Packard 00:26:AB:FA:BB:58 192.168.1.120 it doesn't produce names of anything, it just decodes the network card vendor from the mac address. Device names need some kind of name resolution service such as dns or netbios names used by samba. mk And the translation from the leading triple in the mac address to the company_id can be checked here: http://standards.ieee.org/develop/regauth/oui/public.html, where it then turns out that Doug's printer at 192.168.1.120 is from Epsom? Anybody know where arp-scan finds or stores this info? It's not quite up to date, for instance b8:27:eb:xx:xx:xx should translate to the Raspberry Pi Foundation, but it shows as (unknown). (This is on Debian sid, where incidentally the package as well as the command is called arp-scan with a hyphen). -- Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51e7aaf2.50...@gmail.com
Re: any utility to change ip
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:44:34AM +0100, Klaus wrote: And the translation from the leading triple in the mac address to the company_id can be checked here: http://standards.ieee.org/develop/regauth/oui/public.html, where it then turns out that Doug's printer at 192.168.1.120 is from Epsom? The below was requested What I'd really like to see is something like this: 192.168.1.100 HPLaserJet 2200dn 192.168.1.101 Epson WP4530 192.168.1.104 TV Blu-ray player And that was not decoded from a mac address. mk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130718094020.GA11245@finrod
Re: any utility to change ip
On 18/07/13 10:40, Martin Kraus wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 09:44:34AM +0100, Klaus wrote: And the translation from the leading triple in the mac address to the company_id can be checked here: http://standards.ieee.org/develop/regauth/oui/public.html, where it then turns out that Doug's printer at 192.168.1.120 is from Epsom? The below was requested (...) And that was not decoded from a mac address. mk I think I didn't claim it was. All I tried was to link Darac's earlier post On 17/07/13 11:15, Darac Marjal wrote: (...) You can then lookup the manufacturer of that network device (the xx:xx:xx portion) to give a clue as to what the device is. with your (Martin's) post On 18/07/13 09:08, Martin Kraus wrote: (..) it doesn't produce names of anything, it just decodes the network card vendor from the mac address. Device names need some kind of name resolution service such as dns or netbios names used by samba. mk -- Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51e7ce9e.5060...@gmail.com
Re: any utility to change ip
On 7/18/2013 4:44 AM, Klaus wrote: On 18/07/13 09:08, Martin Kraus wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 06:16:57PM -0400, doug wrote: it did not find any MAC adresses, nor did it produce the name of the printer at 120. Here's the output: [doug@Dell ~]$ sudo arpscan -p 192.168.1.0/24 Password: 00:15:C5:A8:8A:7A 192.168.1.103 00:23:69:BC:D3:36 192.168.1.1 50:E5:49:B3:A2:51 192.168.1.102 00:0E:7F:E3:77:B7 192.168.1.101 Hewlett Packard 00:26:AB:FA:BB:58 192.168.1.120 it doesn't produce names of anything, it just decodes the network card vendor from the mac address. Device names need some kind of name resolution service such as dns or netbios names used by samba. mk And the translation from the leading triple in the mac address to the company_id can be checked here: http://standards.ieee.org/develop/regauth/oui/public.html, where it then turns out that Doug's printer at 192.168.1.120 is from Epsom? Anybody know where arp-scan finds or stores this info? It's not quite up to date, for instance b8:27:eb:xx:xx:xx should translate to the Raspberry Pi Foundation, but it shows as (unknown). (This is on Debian sid, where incidentally the package as well as the command is called arp-scan with a hyphen). Thank you! You're right, the printer at 120 is an Epson WP-4530. Obviously I knew that, but I was wondering how the command was supposed to work. Also, this allows finding, in a roundabout manner, what device is connected to what ip. (In this case, I have assigned a static ip to the Epson.) --doug
Re: any utility to change ip
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:31:46AM -0400, Doug wrote: 192.168.1.100 HPLaserJet 2200dn 192.168.1.101 Epson WP4530 192.168.1.104 TV Blu-ray player findsmb needs smbclient and samba-common-bin packages. uses nmblookup from samba-common-bin package so maybe that would be enough if you read the manpage for it. mk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130717064040.GB13281@finrod
Re: any utility to change ip
On 17/07/13 06:31, Doug wrote: On 07/17/2013 12:53 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: On 2013-07-17 07:48, David Guntner wrote: Doug grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On 07/17/2013 12:26 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any utility to change IP via command line, actually i am looking for a utility same as the one which we using during installation of debian. it actually find and display all the brand names of Ethernet controllers and Ethernet port assignments. can i call the same utility via normal console or is there any different one which i can use on debian. Thanks, Anybody know? man ifconfig it's now iproute2: ip addr xxx vvv -- RMA. I didn't find iproute2, but doing man ifconfig brings up a message that this is obsolete, and to see ip addr and ip link. Looking at the man pages for either of these shows each to be 1000 lines or more, and, while I tried a batch of suggested commands, I obviously don't understand what's going on. In no case did I get anything useful. What I'd really like to see is something like this: 192.168.1.100 HPLaserJet 2200dn 192.168.1.101 Epson WP4530 192.168.1.104 TV Blu-ray player (Obviously, these are not necessarily what the ips really are--that's what I'd like to find out!) Looking at pages in PCLOS. --doug Doug, have you tried nmap? Can't remember whether it's part of the base install, so you might have to install the package nmap first. Then use something like 'nmap -sn 192.168.1.0/24' to get a list of hosts on the subnet replying to ping requests (this won't work for hosts that deny ping requests). -- Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51e651fd.5060...@gmail.com
Re: any utility to change ip
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 01:31:46AM -0400, Doug wrote: On 07/17/2013 12:53 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: On 2013-07-17 07:48, David Guntner wrote: Doug grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On 07/17/2013 12:26 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any utility to change IP via command line, actually i am looking for a utility same as the one which we using during installation of debian. it actually find and display all the brand names of Ethernet controllers and Ethernet port assignments. can i call the same utility via normal console or is there any different one which i can use on debian. Thanks, Anybody know? man ifconfig it's now iproute2: ip addr xxx vvv -- RMA. I didn't find iproute2, but doing man ifconfig brings up a message that this is obsolete, and to see ip addr and ip link. Looking at the man pages for either of these shows each to be 1000 lines or more, and, while I tried a batch of suggested commands, I obviously don't understand what's going on. In no case did I get anything useful. What I'd really like to see is something like this: 192.168.1.100 HPLaserJet 2200dn 192.168.1.101 Epson WP4530 192.168.1.104 TV Blu-ray player Try ip neigh. Theis will show your neighbours on the network. That is, hosts for whom you have ARP or NDISC cache entries. You'll get an entry like: 192.168.2.36 dev eth0.1 lladdr xx:xx:xx:30:65:6c REACHABLE You can then lookup the manufacturer of that network device (the xx:xx:xx portion) to give a clue as to what the device is. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: any utility to change ip
by the way it is my thread :) any ways. the easiest way to achieve your goal is arp-scan install arp-scan i dont know if it support other destros or not you can do arp-scan 192.168.1.0/24 all devices/Computers with MAC addresses will be listed. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 07/17/2013 12:26 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any utility to change IP via command line, actually i am looking for a utility same as the one which we using during installation of debian. it actually find and display all the brand names of Ethernet controllers and Ethernet port assignments. can i call the same utility via normal console or is there any different one which i can use on debian. Thanks, One would think there is some simple way to find what device is using what ip. but I haven't ever seen it. Since the system installs printers and other network hardware, it surely must know what the ips for these devices are. (It would have to work on any Linux system, not just Debian, since that is not my normal system.) Anybody know? --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51e620ae.7060...@optonline.net
Re: any utility to change ip
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:24:54AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: by the way it is my thread :) any ways. the easiest way to achieve your goal is arp-scan install arp-scan i dont know if it support other destros or not Or arp from package net-tools (only depends on libc6, no libpcap) -- kchr |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Kim Christensen |O|O|O| http://technopragmatics.org - () ascii ribbon campain - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: any utility to change ip
On 07/17/2013 03:24 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: by the way it is my thread :) any ways. the easiest way to achieve your goal is arp-scan install arp-scan i dont know if it support other destros or not you can do arp-scan 192.168.1.0/24 http://192.168.1.0/24 all devices/Computers with MAC addresses will be listed. /snip/ One would think there is some simple way to find what device is using what ip. but I haven't ever seen it. Since the system installs printers and other network hardware, it surely must know what the ips for these devices are. (It would have to work on any Linux system, not just Debian, since that is not my normal system.) Anybody know? --doug - Well, this is closer than anything else yet. It's arpscan, without the hyphen, and it did not find any MAC adresses, nor did it produce the name of the printer at 120. Here's the output: [doug@Dell ~]$ sudo arpscan -p 192.168.1.0/24 Password: 00:15:C5:A8:8A:7A 192.168.1.103 00:23:69:BC:D3:36 192.168.1.1 50:E5:49:B3:A2:51 192.168.1.102 00:0E:7F:E3:77:B7 192.168.1.101 Hewlett Packard 00:26:AB:FA:BB:58 192.168.1.120 So that's some help. Thank you! --doug - Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51e620ae.7060...@optonline.net -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51e717d9.7030...@optonline.net
Re: any utility to change ip
On 17/07/13 12:26 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any utility to change IP via command line, actually i am looking for a utility same as the one which we using during installation of debian. it actually find and display all the brand names of Ethernet controllers and Ethernet port assignments. can i call the same utility via normal console or is there any different one which i can use on debian. Thanks, I'm not sure if the thread has actually answered your question or not. ifconfig can be used to both query and change the ip addresses of network interfaces on your machine. Used with no arguments, it lists all known interfaces and gives a lot of information about them. It's still in use in Jessie so reports of its demise may be premature. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51e71e0a.5010...@rogers.com
Re: any utility to change ip
On Wed 17 Jul 2013 at 09:26:53 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any utility to change IP via command line, actually i am looking for a utility same as the one which we using during installation of debian. it actually find and display all the brand names of Ethernet controllers and Ethernet port assignments. can i call the same utility via normal console or is there any different one which i can use on debian. You could roll out your own. Something along the lines of this: V=$(cat /sys/class/net/eth0/device/vendor) D=$(cat /sys/class/net/eth0/device/device) C=$(lspci -d $V:$D echo $C You'll likely need to knock this idea into better shape and throw in a few seds, greps and cuts to get exactly what you want. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130717224239.gk25...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: any utility to change ip
On 2013-07-17, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: One would think there is some simple way to find what device is using what ip. but I haven't ever seen it. Since the system installs printers and other network hardware, it surely must know what the ips for these devices are. (It would have to work on any Linux system, not just Debian, since that is not my normal system.) Anybody know? --doug arp-scan -l -g --interface=wlan0 arp-scan -l -g --interface=eth0 arp-scan -l -g --interface=eth1 etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130717181133.516@0.0.0
Re: any utility to change ip
On 7/17/2013 6:21 PM, Kruppt wrote: On 2013-07-17, Dougdmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: One would think there is some simple way to find what device is using what ip. but I haven't ever seen it. Since the system installs printers and other network hardware, it surely must know what the ips for these devices are. (It would have to work on any Linux system, not just Debian, since that is not my normal system.) Anybody know? --doug arp-scan -l -g --interface=wlan0 arp-scan -l -g --interface=eth0 arp-scan -l -g --interface=eth1 etc. Doesn't work on PCLOS. See my other report. Thanx anyway--doug
any utility to change ip
is there any utility to change IP via command line, actually i am looking for a utility same as the one which we using during installation of debian. it actually find and display all the brand names of Ethernet controllers and Ethernet port assignments. can i call the same utility via normal console or is there any different one which i can use on debian. Thanks,
Re: any utility to change ip
On 07/17/2013 12:26 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any utility to change IP via command line, actually i am looking for a utility same as the one which we using during installation of debian. it actually find and display all the brand names of Ethernet controllers and Ethernet port assignments. can i call the same utility via normal console or is there any different one which i can use on debian. Thanks, One would think there is some simple way to find what device is using what ip. but I haven't ever seen it. Since the system installs printers and other network hardware, it surely must know what the ips for these devices are. (It would have to work on any Linux system, not just Debian, since that is not my normal system.) Anybody know? --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51e620ae.7060...@optonline.net
Re: any utility to change ip
Doug grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On 07/17/2013 12:26 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any utility to change IP via command line, actually i am looking for a utility same as the one which we using during installation of debian. it actually find and display all the brand names of Ethernet controllers and Ethernet port assignments. can i call the same utility via normal console or is there any different one which i can use on debian. Thanks, One would think there is some simple way to find what device is using what ip. but I haven't ever seen it. Since the system installs printers and other network hardware, it surely must know what the ips for these devices are. (It would have to work on any Linux system, not just Debian, since that is not my normal system.) Anybody know? man ifconfig smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: any utility to change ip
On 2013-07-17 07:48, David Guntner wrote: Doug grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On 07/17/2013 12:26 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any utility to change IP via command line, actually i am looking for a utility same as the one which we using during installation of debian. it actually find and display all the brand names of Ethernet controllers and Ethernet port assignments. can i call the same utility via normal console or is there any different one which i can use on debian. Thanks, Anybody know? man ifconfig it's now iproute2: ip addr xxx vvv -- RMA.
Re: any utility to change ip
On 07/17/2013 12:53 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: On 2013-07-17 07:48, David Guntner wrote: Doug grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On 07/17/2013 12:26 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: is there any utility to change IP via command line, actually i am looking for a utility same as the one which we using during installation of debian. it actually find and display all the brand names of Ethernet controllers and Ethernet port assignments. can i call the same utility via normal console or is there any different one which i can use on debian. Thanks, Anybody know? man ifconfig it's now iproute2: ip addr xxx vvv -- RMA. I didn't find iproute2, but doing man ifconfig brings up a message that this is obsolete, and to see ip addr and ip link. Looking at the man pages for either of these shows each to be 1000 lines or more, and, while I tried a batch of suggested commands, I obviously don't understand what's going on. In no case did I get anything useful. What I'd really like to see is something like this: 192.168.1.100 HPLaserJet 2200dn 192.168.1.101 Epson WP4530 192.168.1.104 TV Blu-ray player (Obviously, these are not necessarily what the ips really are--that's what I'd like to find out!) Looking at pages in PCLOS. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers..for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M.Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51e62c42.3060...@optonline.net
Re: /etc/init.d/networking restart does not change IP address. I have to reboot. Help.
On 2009-04-04 13:28 +0200, Foss User wrote: Trying to change the IP address in /etc/network/interfaces and then /etc/init.d/networking restart does not really change my IP. I am having to do a reboot to really change the IP. Could someone please help me in understanding why restarting networking doesn't do it? OUTPUT BEFORE CHANGING IP ADDRESS: lenny-template:~# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0c:29:e9:63:c4 inet addr:10.31.253.153 Bcast:10.31.253.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::20c:29ff:fee9:63c4/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:255 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:22731 (22.1 KiB) TX bytes:6835 (6.6 KiB) Interrupt:18 Base address:0x2080 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:560 (560.0 B) TX bytes:560 (560.0 B) lenny-template:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 ^ This is your problem, you probably want to change that to auto. iface eth0 inet static address 10.31.253.153 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 10.31.253.0 broadcast 10.31.253.255 gateway 10.31.253.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers 10.100.8.203 Then I edit only the 'address' line of 'iface eth0 inet static' to: address 10.31.253.154 and issue the command: /etc/init.d/networking restart. After that when I run ipconfig command, I see only iface lo in the output. If I run ipconfig -a command, then I see iface eth0 too but its ip address is still the old one: 10.31.253.153 The reason is that /etc/init.d/networking restart boils down to ifdown -a --exclude=lo; ifup -a --exclude=lo and ifup -a only brings up interfaces that are marked auto in /etc/network/interfaces. Running ifup eth0 will bring the interface up again and change your IP address. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /etc/init.d/networking restart does not change IP address. I have to reboot. Help.
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: On 2009-04-04 13:28 +0200, Foss User wrote: Trying to change the IP address in /etc/network/interfaces and then /etc/init.d/networking restart does not really change my IP. I am having to do a reboot to really change the IP. Could someone please help me in understanding why restarting networking doesn't do it? OUTPUT BEFORE CHANGING IP ADDRESS: lenny-template:~# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0c:29:e9:63:c4 inet addr:10.31.253.153 Bcast:10.31.253.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::20c:29ff:fee9:63c4/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:255 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:22731 (22.1 KiB) TX bytes:6835 (6.6 KiB) Interrupt:18 Base address:0x2080 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:560 (560.0 B) TX bytes:560 (560.0 B) lenny-template:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 ^ This is your problem, you probably want to change that to auto. iface eth0 inet static address 10.31.253.153 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 10.31.253.0 broadcast 10.31.253.255 gateway 10.31.253.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers 10.100.8.203 Then I edit only the 'address' line of 'iface eth0 inet static' to: address 10.31.253.154 and issue the command: /etc/init.d/networking restart. After that when I run ipconfig command, I see only iface lo in the output. If I run ipconfig -a command, then I see iface eth0 too but its ip address is still the old one: 10.31.253.153 The reason is that /etc/init.d/networking restart boils down to ifdown -a --exclude=lo; ifup -a --exclude=lo and ifup -a only brings up interfaces that are marked auto in /etc/network/interfaces. Running ifup eth0 will bring the interface up again and change your IP address. Sven So, should I add the following line: auto eth0 before this line: allow-hotplug eth0 ? What is the use of allow-hotplug eth0? Can I remove the allow-hotplug line? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
/etc/init.d/networking restart does not change IP address. I have to reboot. Help.
Trying to change the IP address in /etc/network/interfaces and then /etc/init.d/networking restart does not really change my IP. I am having to do a reboot to really change the IP. Could someone please help me in understanding why restarting networking doesn't do it? OUTPUT BEFORE CHANGING IP ADDRESS: lenny-template:~# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0c:29:e9:63:c4 inet addr:10.31.253.153 Bcast:10.31.253.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::20c:29ff:fee9:63c4/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:255 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:22731 (22.1 KiB) TX bytes:6835 (6.6 KiB) Interrupt:18 Base address:0x2080 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:560 (560.0 B) TX bytes:560 (560.0 B) lenny-template:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 10.31.253.153 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 10.31.253.0 broadcast 10.31.253.255 gateway 10.31.253.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers 10.100.8.203 Then I edit only the 'address' line of 'iface eth0 inet static' to: address 10.31.253.154 and issue the command: /etc/init.d/networking restart. After that when I run ipconfig command, I see only iface lo in the output. If I run ipconfig -a command, then I see iface eth0 too but its ip address is still the old one: 10.31.253.153 Please help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /etc/init.d/networking restart does not change IP address. I have to reboot. Help.
On 2009-04-04 07:21, Foss User wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: On 2009-04-04 13:28 +0200, Foss User wrote: [snip] # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 ^ This is your problem, you probably want to change that to auto. iface eth0 inet static address 10.31.253.153 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 10.31.253.0 broadcast 10.31.253.255 gateway 10.31.253.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers 10.100.8.203 Then I edit only the 'address' line of 'iface eth0 inet static' to: address 10.31.253.154 [snip] So, should I add the following line: auto eth0 before this line: allow-hotplug eth0 I think he said that you need to *change*, not *add*. What is the use of allow-hotplug eth0? Can I remove the allow-hotplug line? -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /etc/init.d/networking restart does not change IP address. I have to reboot. Help.
On 2009-04-04 14:45 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-04-04 07:21, Foss User wrote: So, should I add the following line: auto eth0 before this line: allow-hotplug eth0 I think he said that you need to *change*, not *add*. This is what I meant, yes. AFAIK auto and allow-hotplug are mutually exclusive, but interfaces(5) is a bit unclear in that point. What is the use of allow-hotplug eth0? Can I remove the allow-hotplug line? There are at least two use cases: - A network device might not always be present (such as a USB WLAN adapter), and you want to bring up the interface automatically whenever you plug in the device. - You use DHCP to get an IP. IIRC, dhclient will run in the foreground and thus slow down the boot process if the interface is auto; but it nicely runs in the background if the interface is allow-hotplug. Since Foss User has a static IP and probably not a removable network card, neither of these reasons apply. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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On 2009-04-04 08:16, Sven Joachim wrote: [snip] - A network device might not always be present (such as a USB WLAN adapter), and you want to bring up the interface automatically Or CardBus/PCMCIA. -- Scooty Puff, Sr The Doom-Bringer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: /etc/init.d/networking restart does not change IP address. I have to reboot. Help.
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:58:50 +0530, Foss User posted: Trying to change the IP address in /etc/network/interfaces and then /etc/init.d/networking restart does not really change my IP. I am having to do a reboot to really change the IP. Could someone please help me in understanding why restarting networking doesn't do it? OUTPUT BEFORE CHANGING IP ADDRESS: lenny-template:~# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0c:29:e9:63:c4 inet addr:10.31.253.153 Bcast:10.31.253.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::20c:29ff:fee9:63c4/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:255 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:22731 (22.1 KiB) TX bytes:6835 (6.6 KiB) Interrupt:18 Base address:0x2080 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:560 (560.0 B) TX bytes:560 (560.0 B) lenny-template:~# cat /etc/network/interfaces # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 10.31.253.153 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 10.31.253.0 broadcast 10.31.253.255 gateway 10.31.253.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers 10.100.8.203 Then I edit only the 'address' line of 'iface eth0 inet static' to: address 10.31.253.154 and issue the command: /etc/init.d/networking restart. After that when I run ipconfig command, I see only iface lo in the output. If I run ipconfig -a command, then I see iface eth0 too but its ip address is still the old one: 10.31.253.153 Please help. Do you have network-manager installed? If it is trying to control your network interfaces for you, it will ignore that stanza with the static address in your interfaces file (and presumeably, try to use the old address it knows). You could uninstall network-manager and regain the old behaviour, your edits to the interfaces file would work as expected. Network Manager is mostly meant to be used in the roaming situation. You could leave network-manager working and modify the interfaces file to just auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp and let your router hand out a static address to the interface by MAC address (router documentation will discuss this). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: proper way to change ip and hostname
On Tuesday, 26.07.2005 at 20:47 -0500, Matthew Lenz wrote: I think everyone should probably look at Dave Ewart's response. I tend to agree with him now that I've seen it in action. dpkg-reconfigure etherconf the only difference from etherconf and the sarge installer is that the sarge installer puts some guesses into the fields for you first. The only other difference I could see is that etherconf puts the FQDN in /etc/hostname rather than just the host name. :-) It is a very good, reliable tool for setting up your network config. It ensures that you don't miss out anything that ought to be changed. It's one of those tools where you find yourself saying I can't believe I didn't know *that* tool existed before ... Cheers, Dave. -- Please don't CC me on list messages! ... Dave Ewart - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All email from me is now digitally signed, key from http://www.sungate.co.uk/ Fingerprint: AEC5 9360 0A35 7F66 66E9 82E4 9E10 6769 CD28 DA92 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: proper way to change ip and hostname
Brian Kimball wrote: Others have already led you in the right direction. To summarize: 1) change IP address: edit interface information in /etc/network/interfaces 2) change hostname: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts 3) update nameserver information in /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/network/interfaces if you use the resolvconf package. Good But that only handles the bare minimum. You will also need to reconfigure any software that has your old hostname, IP address, netmask, network address, etc., hardcoded in its config files. In this case grepping everything in /etc is the only sure-fire way to remember what needs to be changed and what doesn't. But in many cases the software should have been configured to use localhost anyway, and this name -- the canonical hostname corresponding to IP address 127.0.0.1, never changes. Matthew Lenz wrote: The only other difference I could see is that etherconf puts the FQDN in /etc/hostname rather than just the host name. Arrgh. I'll file a bug report about that. It is possible to have a FQDN as one's system hostname, but this is not Debian tradition and Debian configuration tools should be consistent. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have just looked at the bug reports open against etherconf and the package looks undermaintained. I would not recommend using it. -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: proper way to change ip and hostname
Thomas Hood wrote: Matthew Lenz wrote: The only other difference I could see is that etherconf puts the FQDN in /etc/hostname rather than just the host name. Arrgh. I'll file a bug report about that. It is possible to have a FQDN as one's system hostname, but this is not Debian tradition and Debian configuration tools should be consistent. Be that as it may, but I always use the FQDN in the hostname. It is the traditional BSD way and also just seems the right way of doing things. So etherconf should allow both policies. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: proper way to change ip and hostname
Thomas Hood wrote: Brian Kimball wrote: But that only handles the bare minimum. You will also need to reconfigure any software that has your old hostname, IP address, netmask, network address, etc., hardcoded in its config files. In this case grepping everything in /etc is the only sure-fire way to remember what needs to be changed and what doesn't. But in many cases the software should have been configured to use localhost anyway, and this name -- the canonical hostname corresponding to IP address 127.0.0.1, never changes. Good point. I was thinking from the point of view of having multiple linux machines on a network. I guess not everyone's that lucky. ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: proper way to change ip and hostname
Matthew Lenz wrote: rather than grep xarging /etc for occurances of the ip and hostname is there a proper debian way of changing them? Editing /etc/hosts ? Paul Scott -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: proper way to change ip and hostname
On Monday, 25.07.2005 at 23:19 -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Matthew Lenz wrote: rather than grep xarging /etc for occurances of the ip and hostname is there a proper debian way of changing them? Editing /etc/hosts ? That won't change the machine's IP. The Correct Way to change a machine IP configuration and hostname is by doing: dpkg-reconfigure etherconf (or apt-get install etherconf, if it's not installed) This will ask you various questions about your setup and IP config, and write results to all the pertinent files under /etc, such as /etc/hosts, /etc/network/interfaces etc. Cheers, Dave. -- Please don't CC me on list messages! ... Dave Ewart - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All email from me is now digitally signed, key from http://www.sungate.co.uk/ Fingerprint: AEC5 9360 0A35 7F66 66E9 82E4 9E10 6769 CD28 DA92 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: proper way to change ip and hostname
Matthew Lenz wrote: rather than grep xarging /etc for occurances of the ip and hostname is there a proper debian way of changing them? Editing /etc/hosts ? I went through this experience a short while ago. All kinds of recommendations about greping /etc, even that reinstalling linux is the only safe way to change the hostname. But, in contast, there was also the suggestion that all that is needed is to change /etc/hosts and reboot. It makes one feel very insecure when there's such conflicting advice out there. I bit the bullet, changed /etc/hostname, and rebooted; nothing else. As far as I can make out after a month, this procedure worked beautifully. I can think of ways it could lead to a problem or two, but I don't think that denies the basic soundness of the approach. Haines Brown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: proper way to change ip and hostname
On 26 Jul 2005, Haines Brown wrote: Matthew Lenz wrote: rather than grep xarging /etc for occurances of the ip and hostname is there a proper debian way of changing them? Editing /etc/hosts ? I went through this experience a short while ago. All kinds of recommendations about greping /etc, even that reinstalling linux is the only safe way to change the hostname. But, in contast, there was also the suggestion that all that is needed is to change /etc/hosts and reboot. It makes one feel very insecure when there's such conflicting advice out there. I bit the bullet, changed /etc/hostname, and rebooted; nothing else. As far as I can make out after a month, this procedure worked beautifully. I can think of ways it could lead to a problem or two, but I don't think that denies the basic soundness of the approach. Haines Brown I've done just the same in the past without any problems. In fact, I'm not even sure I had to reboot, but certainly the only things I needed to change were /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname. Anthony -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| http://www.acampbell.org.uk for using Linux GNU/Debian || blog, book reviews, electronic Microsoft-free zone|| books and skeptical articles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: proper way to change ip and hostname
Anthony Campbell wrote: On 26 Jul 2005, Haines Brown wrote: Editing /etc/hosts ? I bit the bullet, changed /etc/hostname, and rebooted; nothing else. As far as I can make out after a month, this procedure worked beautifully. I can think of ways it could lead to a problem or two, but I don't think that denies the basic soundness of the approach. Editing /etc/hostname will change the hostname but not the IP address. The ip address of an interface is setup in /etc/network/interfaces (at least for static ip addresses). For dynamic address you would need to modify the DHCP server to return a different ip for your MAC. You also may have to change any internal DNS servers to reflect the new name/ip changes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: proper way to change ip and hostname
Matthew Lenz wrote: rather than grep xarging /etc for occurances of the ip and hostname is there a proper debian way of changing them? Others have already led you in the right direction. To summarize: 1) change IP address: edit interface information in /etc/network/interfaces 2) change hostname: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts 3) update nameserver information in /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/network/interfaces if you use the resolvconf package. But that only handles the bare minimum. You will also need to reconfigure any software that has your old hostname, IP address, netmask, network address, etc., hardcoded in its config files. In this case grepping everything in /etc is the only sure-fire way to remember what needs to be changed and what doesn't. Note the above: you need to grep for more than just your IP address and hostname. For example, I run the cups printing service and have the statement Allow From 64.172.171.64/29 in cupsd.conf which allows network printing from all my other IP addresses. Grepping for any one of my IP addresses (.65, .66, .67, .68, .69) would not have reminded me that I need to change that statement to my new settings. So, in short, grepping /etc _is_ the proper way. It feels brute force but it isn't really. In fact, it helps you learn your system. Someone else mentioned that when they were in a similar sitation they were told to reinstall. BLECH!! That's gross. _That_ would be improper. hth, brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think everyone should probably look at Dave Ewart's response. I tend to agree with him now that I've seen it in action. dpkg-reconfigure etherconf the only difference from etherconf and the sarge installer is that the sarge installer puts some guesses into the fields for you first. The only other difference I could see is that etherconf puts the FQDN in /etc/hostname rather than just the host name. - Original Message - From: Brian Kimball [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:12 PM Subject: Re: proper way to change ip and hostname Matthew Lenz wrote: rather than grep xarging /etc for occurances of the ip and hostname is there a proper debian way of changing them? Others have already led you in the right direction. To summarize: 1) change IP address: edit interface information in /etc/network/interfaces 2) change hostname: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts 3) update nameserver information in /etc/resolv.conf or /etc/network/interfaces if you use the resolvconf package. But that only handles the bare minimum. You will also need to reconfigure any software that has your old hostname, IP address, netmask, network address, etc., hardcoded in its config files. In this case grepping everything in /etc is the only sure-fire way to remember what needs to be changed and what doesn't. Note the above: you need to grep for more than just your IP address and hostname. For example, I run the cups printing service and have the statement Allow From 64.172.171.64/29 in cupsd.conf which allows network printing from all my other IP addresses. Grepping for any one of my IP addresses (.65, .66, .67, .68, .69) would not have reminded me that I need to change that statement to my new settings. So, in short, grepping /etc _is_ the proper way. It feels brute force but it isn't really. In fact, it helps you learn your system. Someone else mentioned that when they were in a similar sitation they were told to reinstall. BLECH!! That's gross. _That_ would be improper. hth, brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: change IP and default route.
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: snip Thank you very much for that - and everyone else that replied. I had not seen your post before I see others mentioning /etc/network/interfaces, so edit that. so was not sure what to put for the broadcase, although since the original ended in .255, I went for that too. Reading the man pages I found the gateway was optional, which rather surprised me. Perhaps the broadcast will get a response from the gateway - I am not sure I must admit. snip There need not *be* a gateway. Not every LAN is connected to a wider network. Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: change IP and default route.
Jonathan Colaco wrote: On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:53:15 +, Dr. David Kirkby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I installed a system on a company network with a fixed IP (213.78.42.115), but recently bought a small router. The PC will now have to use the router as the default route, and I will make the IP private. The following commands do what I want # ifconfig eth0 192.168.123.1 netname 255.255.255.0 # set my IP to 192.168.123.1 # route add default gw 192.168.123.254 But how do I set this to happen automatically? I changed the IP in /etc/hosts, and had an attempt at changing /etc/gateways, but clearly not successfully, as the routing does work after a reboot - I need to type these commands again. Try this: edit the file: /etc/network/interfaces auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.123.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.123.0 broadcast 192.168.123.255 gateway 192.168.123.254 and than: /etc/init.d/network restart Jonathan Colaço - Jc Thank you very much for that - and everyone else that replied. I had not seen your post before I see others mentioning /etc/network/interfaces, so edit that. so was not sure what to put for the broadcase, although since the original ended in .255, I went for that too. Reading the man pages I found the gateway was optional, which rather surprised me. Perhaps the broadcast will get a response from the gateway - I am not sure I must admit. Anyway, the result it is now works fine, so thanks everyone for their response. -- Dr. David Kirkby PhD CEng MIEE Senior Research Fellow Department of Medical Physics University College London 11-20 Capper St London WC1E 6JA Tel: 020 7679 6406 (direct line) Tel: 020 7679 6262 (office) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, I installed a system on a company network with a fixed IP (213.78.42.115), but recently bought a small router. The PC will now have to use the router as the default route, and I will make the IP private. The following commands do what I want # ifconfig eth0 192.168.123.1 netname 255.255.255.0 # set my IP to 192.168.123.1 # route add default gw 192.168.123.254 But how do I set this to happen automatically? I changed the IP in /etc/hosts, and had an attempt at changing /etc/gateways, but clearly not successfully, as the routing does work after a reboot - I need to type these commands again. -- Dr. David Kirkby PhD CEng MIEE Senior Research Fellow Department of Medical Physics University College London 11-20 Capper St London WC1E 6JA Tel: 020 7679 6406 (direct line) Tel: 020 7679 6262 (office) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: change IP and default route.
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:53:15 +, Dr. David Kirkby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I installed a system on a company network with a fixed IP (213.78.42.115), but recently bought a small router. The PC will now have to use the router as the default route, and I will make the IP private. The following commands do what I want # ifconfig eth0 192.168.123.1 netname 255.255.255.0 # set my IP to 192.168.123.1 # route add default gw 192.168.123.254 But how do I set this to happen automatically? I changed the IP in /etc/hosts, and had an attempt at changing /etc/gateways, but clearly not successfully, as the routing does work after a reboot - I need to type these commands again. Try this: edit the file: /etc/network/interfaces auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.123.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.123.0 broadcast 192.168.123.255 gateway 192.168.123.254 and than: /etc/init.d/network restart Jonathan Colaço - Jc
Re: change IP and default route.
Dr. David Kirkby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But how do I set this to happen automatically? I changed the IP in /etc/hosts, and had an attempt at changing /etc/gateways, but clearly not successfully, as the routing does work after a reboot - I need to type these commands again. you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces look at 'man interfaces' for more details. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: change IP and default route.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr. David Kirkby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi, I installed a system on a company network with a fixed IP (213.78.42.115), but recently bought a small router. The PC will now have to use the router as the default route, and I will make the IP private. The following commands do what I want # ifconfig eth0 192.168.123.1 netname 255.255.255.0 # set my IP to 192.168.123.1 # route add default gw 192.168.123.254 But how do I set this to happen automatically? I changed the IP in /etc/hosts, and had an attempt at changing /etc/gateways, but clearly not successfully, as the routing does work after a reboot - I need to type these commands again. The file you need is /etc/network/interfaces. It's fairly self-explanatory, or man interfaces for the whole story.. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: change IP and default route.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, 04.11.2004 at 19:16 +, Joe wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr. David Kirkby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi, I installed a system on a company network with a fixed IP (213.78.42.115), but recently bought a small router. The PC will now have to use the router as the default route, and I will make the IP private. The following commands do what I want # ifconfig eth0 192.168.123.1 netname 255.255.255.0 # set my IP to 192.168.123.1 # route add default gw 192.168.123.254 But how do I set this to happen automatically? I changed the IP in /etc/hosts, and had an attempt at changing /etc/gateways, but clearly not successfully, as the routing does work after a reboot - I need to type these commands again. The file you need is /etc/network/interfaces. It's fairly self-explanatory, or man interfaces for the whole story.. You might also like to try: dpkg-reconfigure etherconf or apt-get install etherconf This package provides a debconf-based interface to configuring the Ethernet on your system. Dave. - -- Dave Ewart - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All email from me is now digitally signed, key from http://www.sungate.co.uk/ Fingerprint: AEC5 9360 0A35 7F66 66E9 82E4 9E10 6769 CD28 DA92 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBior0nhBnac0o2pIRAhhgAKDdfi8fGB99e666vsHiCft2rMHO/wCgu+RS GjHK0w6Db0bK+L+brobo3j8= =y19N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Standard way to change IP?
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, George Bonser wrote: On Sat, 8 Jan 2000, Jonathan Chang wrote: Hi, all Is there any standard way for debian to change ip address? Or I need to modify files in /etc manully? Thanks in advance. Edit /etc/init.d/network and reboot is the EASIEST way for a newbie. No need to reboot, just shutdown the NIC: ifconfig eth0 down and then run the /etc/init.d/network (after you edited it of course): /etc/init.d/network Oki
Re: Standard way to change IP?
On Sat, Jan 08, 2000 at 09:17:05PM +0100, Robert Waldner wrote: I find that sometimes I cannot use that interface after the network is changed I get something like network unreachable when I try to ping some hosts on that network. The NIC is fine after a reboot. Most of the time I was using slink with kernel 2.2.13. Are there any other things that I need to do? Or was it driver dependent? sounds like a missing route, route -n will show you the actual routing table, which should be something like Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 193.154.142.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 116 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 04 lo 0.0.0.0 193.154.142.1 0.0.0.0 UG1 0 46 eth0 the kernel needs to know which ip-address of its default-gateway and over which interface that can be reached. /etc/init.d/network should add the appropriate routes when invoked via /etc/rcS.d/S40network. if that doesn´t help, do a ping -v to see where the unreachables come from, could be your host or some router on the way... But the routes are there. At least the routes for the local network are there. (2.2 kernels add them automatically, don't they?) I even tried to manually bring down all ethX, remove all routes and start them up again. Still doesn't work until I reboot in frustration. Can't even ping other hosts in the same network. Perhaps I overlooked something To Lindsay: I tried manually using ifconfig already :(
Standard way to change IP?
Hi, all Is there any standard way for debian to change ip address? Or I need to modify files in /etc manully? Thanks in advance. -- Chia-Sheng Chang Institute of Communications Engineering College of Electrical Engineering National Taiwan University Taipei, Taiwan 10617 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 15:04:33 +0800, Jonathan Chang writes: Hi, all Is there any standard way for debian to change ip address? Or I need to modify files in /etc manully? Thanks in advance. modify /etc/init.d/network accordingly, do an ifconfig interface down, then run /etc/rcS.d/S40network rw -- -- +++ EUnet/[EMAIL PROTECTED], 15.-17.2.'2k, Ebene02/Stand08 +++ - ___ - Robert WaldnerEUnet/AT tech staff // / ___ _/_ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] RW960-RIPE --- /--- / / / / /___/ / --- ---EUnet EDV-DienstleistungsgesmbH--- -- /___ /___/ / / /___ /_ Diefenbachgasse 35A-1150 Wien - - Tel: +43 1 89933 Fax: +43 1 89933 533
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Jonathan Chang said: Is there any standard way for debian to change ip address? Or I need to modify files in /etc manully? Thanks in advance. To change it temporarily (until the next reboot), use ifconfig. For a permanent change, yes, you have to edit a config file in /etc. (/etc/init.d/network, to be exact.) -- Geek Code 3.1: GCS d- s+: a- C++ UL++$ P L++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- !V PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv- b++ DI D G e* h+ r++ y+
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On Sat, Jan 08, 2000 at 12:10:41PM +0100, Robert Waldner wrote: On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 15:04:33 +0800, Jonathan Chang writes: Hi, all Is there any standard way for debian to change ip address? Or I need to modify files in /etc manully? Thanks in advance. modify /etc/init.d/network accordingly, do an ifconfig interface down, then run /etc/rcS.d/S40network I find that sometimes I cannot use that interface after the network is changed I get something like network unreachable when I try to ping some hosts on that network. The NIC is fine after a reboot. Most of the time I was using slink with kernel 2.2.13. Are there any other things that I need to do? Or was it driver dependent?
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2000 03:06:02 +0800, Ronald Tin writes: On Sat, Jan 08, 2000 at 12:10:41PM +0100, Robert Waldner wrote: modify /etc/init.d/network accordingly, do an ifconfig interface down, the n run /etc/rcS.d/S40network I find that sometimes I cannot use that interface after the network is changed I get something like network unreachable when I try to ping some hosts on that network. The NIC is fine after a reboot. Most of the time I was using slink with kernel 2.2.13. Are there any other things that I need to do? Or was it driver dependent? sounds like a missing route, route -n will show you the actual routing table, which should be something like Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 193.154.142.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 116 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 04 lo 0.0.0.0 193.154.142.1 0.0.0.0 UG1 0 46 eth0 the kernel needs to know which ip-address of its default-gateway and over which interface that can be reached. /etc/init.d/network should add the appropriate routes when invoked via /etc/rcS.d/S40network. if that doesn´t help, do a ping -v to see where the unreachables come from, could be your host or some router on the way... rw -- -- +++ EUnet/[EMAIL PROTECTED], 15.-17.2.'2k, Ebene02/Stand08 +++ - ___ - Robert WaldnerEUnet/AT tech staff // / ___ _/_ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] RW960-RIPE --- /--- / / / / /___/ / --- ---EUnet EDV-DienstleistungsgesmbH--- -- /___ /___/ / / /___ /_ Diefenbachgasse 35A-1150 Wien - - Tel: +43 1 89933 Fax: +43 1 89933 533
Re: how change IP address?
David Zanetti writes: As an asside to the list, what's the chances of the /etc/init.d/network scripts being replaced with something else? Long ago I hacked up a script for slackware to read bits and pieces from a directory and use that information to build the interfaces. A group on -devel are discussing that very thing right now. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
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As an asside to the list, what's the chances of the /etc/init.d/network scripts being replaced with something else? Long ago I hacked up a script for slackware to read bits and pieces from a directory and use that information to build the interfaces. A group on -devel are discussing that very thing right now. Such a script wouldn't be all that difficult - personally I wrote up a couple of them for myself over the years. But I found that the usual circumstances involving a change of IP, involved alterations to other information, computer name, subnet, network, domain name, etc. And since there are a lot of configuration files that have the raw system values within them - it is necessary to search for the information that I needed to change, as well as being aware of what affects my changes would have upon the running status of the system. Jolyon
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On Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 09:32:50PM -, Shaleh wrote: On 10-Feb-99 Eliezer Figueroa wrote: how can I change the IP address? Is there any menu I can use like the one in the install process? Edit /etc/init.d/network And don't forget to change it in /etc/hosts too Nils -- Plug-and-Play is really nice, unfortunately it only works 50% of the time. To be specific the Plug almost always works.--unknown source pgpN0CZUAyWIH.pgp Description: PGP signature
how change IP address?
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On 10-Feb-99 Eliezer Figueroa wrote: how can I change the IP address? Is there any menu I can use like the one in the install process? Edit /etc/init.d/network
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You'll need to edit /etc/init.d/network if you're talking about the ethernet IP address. For PPP dialed up to a normal ISP, that's determined by your ISP, not your machine. As an asside to the list, what's the chances of the /etc/init.d/network scripts being replaced with something else? Long ago I hacked up a script for slackware to read bits and pieces from a directory and use that information to build the interfaces. It'd make admining a lot easier (I did it because I had a box with 3 real interfaces and a dozen aliases) and handles things like being re-run when the interfaces are up. (read: it downs them first..) David Zanetti, Unix System Administrator, Information Technology Group Wellington City Council, New Zealand. Phone x3354 or 04 801 3354 The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are asked to respect that confidentiality and not disclose, copy or make use of its contents. If received in error you are asked to destroy this email and contact the sender immediately. Your assistance is appreciated. -Original Message- From: Eliezer Figueroa [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 11 February 1999 10:07 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: recipient list not shown Subject: how change IP address? how can I change the IP address? Is there any menu I can use like the one in the install process? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
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hi..netterss.. i'm new user in debian linux i wanna change ip address in my debian server... how can i change that,.?? please give an advise ... thanks sincerly 'teguh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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You will have to edit the file /etc/init.d/networks... you will have to change IPADDR, and maybe BROADCAST and GATEWAY, depending if you change subnets. If you do, make sure you edit /etc/networks also. Once you make those changes, as root run /etc/init.d/networks to test your new settings. You shouldn't need to reboot. Thanks, Dennis -- dpk [EMAIL PROTECTED], Systems/Network | work: 353.4844 Division of Engineering Computing Services | page: 222.5875 On Thu, 20 Nov 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi..netterss.. i'm new user in debian linux i wanna change ip address in my debian server... how can i change that,.?? please give an advise ... thanks sincerly 'teguh -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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At 12:51 AM 11/20/97 -0500, you wrote: You will have to edit the file /etc/init.d/networks... you will have to change IPADDR, and maybe BROADCAST and GATEWAY, thanks for helping me about change the ip addres ..it's work,..! -:) and i have 2 program in my debian linux : - IRCD - eggdrop that stuff already work but i must start that stuff step by step , first i run IRCD and then eggdrop , i wanna that all stuff running in start up .., how can i make it,..?? please , give some advice... thanks sincerly 'teguh. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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that stuff already work but i must start that stuff step by step , first i run IRCD and then eggdrop , i wanna that all stuff running in start up .., how can i make it,..?? Add a script file to the /etc/rc.boot directory as follows: /etc/rc.boot/irc-startup: ---snip here--- #!/bin/sh /path/to/ircd /path/to/eggdrop ---snip here Just a few additional comments: - make sure the #!/bin/sh is the *first* line in the file. - adjust the path entries as required... obviously. - chmod 755 /etc/rc.boot/irc-startup to make it executable Good luck, Kevin Traas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
