Re: changing roots on: dpkg -i
Rob Benton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to install the xfree86 packages with the /opt directory as root. I've tried using --instdir but the install fails on the pre/postinst scripts. Is there an easy way to do this without having to build my own package? No. In general, dpkg's options to change the root are useful if you have a chroot environment, or if you somehow otherwise have a complete working system installed somewhere other than / (e.g., you're booted off of a rescue CD and your hard disk is mounted on /target or something). The best you could do with this approach is install X stuff in /opt/usr/X11R6/..., and even that wouldn't work because the X server will do things like look for its configuration file in /etc/X11 (and has, in the Debian build, never heard of /opt). As far as X goes, IMHO the easiest way to get an XFree86 4.3 X server (because that's what you're really after, right?) is to download the Xxserv.tgz and Xmod.tgz binary tarballs from xfree86.org, unpack them somewhere like /usr/local, and repoint the /etc/X11/X symlink to point to them. There are also various backports, plus the ~official Debian experimental packages; search the list archives for details. Debian in general doesn't believe in /opt, and relocatable binaries are a hard problem that's not real high on the dpkg feature list. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing roots on: dpkg -i
On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 09:50, David Z Maze wrote: Rob Benton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to install the xfree86 packages with the /opt directory as root. I've tried using --instdir but the install fails on the pre/postinst scripts. Is there an easy way to do this without having to build my own package? No. In general, dpkg's options to change the root are useful if you have a chroot environment, or if you somehow otherwise have a complete working system installed somewhere other than / (e.g., you're booted off of a rescue CD and your hard disk is mounted on /target or something). The best you could do with this approach is install X stuff in /opt/usr/X11R6/..., and even that wouldn't work because the X server will do things like look for its configuration file in /etc/X11 (and has, in the Debian build, never heard of /opt). As far as X goes, IMHO the easiest way to get an XFree86 4.3 X server (because that's what you're really after, right?) is to download the Xxserv.tgz and Xmod.tgz binary tarballs from xfree86.org, unpack them somewhere like /usr/local, and repoint the /etc/X11/X symlink to point to them. There are also various backports, plus the ~official Debian experimental packages; search the list archives for details. Debian in general doesn't believe in /opt, and relocatable binaries are a hard problem that's not real high on the dpkg feature list. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell Well this is what I have going on. I'm basically building a poor man's laptop with a usb zip250 drive. I've got just enough to get booted up but I need X and a java sdk which is too much to fit on 250 MB. So what I decided I would do is mount some shared memory on /dev/shm and install the pacakages there. When I get ready to shutdown, tar and bzip up the files stored there to somewhere on disk. Make any sense? I downloaded the deb-src of xserver-common to mess around with. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: changing roots on: dpkg -i
-Original Message- From: Rob Benton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:00 AM To: David Z Maze Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: changing roots on: dpkg -i On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 09:50, David Z Maze wrote: Rob Benton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to install the xfree86 packages with the /opt directory as root. I've tried using --instdir but the install fails on the pre/postinst scripts. Is there an easy way to do this without having to build my own package? No. In general, dpkg's options to change the root are useful if you have a chroot environment, or if you somehow otherwise have a complete working system installed somewhere other than / (e.g., you're booted off of a rescue CD and your hard disk is mounted on /target or something). The best you could do with this approach is install X stuff in /opt/usr/X11R6/..., and even that wouldn't work because the X server will do things like look for its configuration file in /etc/X11 (and has, in the Debian build, never heard of /opt). As far as X goes, IMHO the easiest way to get an XFree86 4.3 X server (because that's what you're really after, right?) is to download the Xxserv.tgz and Xmod.tgz binary tarballs from xfree86.org, unpack them somewhere like /usr/local, and repoint the /etc/X11/X symlink to point to them. There are also various backports, plus the ~official Debian experimental packages; search the list archives for details. Debian in general doesn't believe in /opt, and relocatable binaries are a hard problem that's not real high on the dpkg feature list. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell Well this is what I have going on. I'm basically building a poor man's laptop with a usb zip250 drive. I've got just enough to get booted up but I need X and a java sdk which is too much to fit on 250 MB. So what I decided I would do is mount some shared memory on /dev/shm and install the pacakages there. When I get ready to shutdown, tar and bzip up the files stored there to somewhere on disk. Make any sense? I downloaded the deb-src of xserver-common to mess around with. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: changing roots on: dpkg -i
-- From: Sreelal Chandrasenan Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:25:21 AM To: Debian User (E-mail) Subject: FW: changing roots on: dpkg -i Auto forwarded by a Rule -Original Message- From: Rob Benton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:00 AM To: David Z Maze Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: changing roots on: dpkg -i On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 09:50, David Z Maze wrote: Rob Benton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to install the xfree86 packages with the /opt directory as root. I've tried using --instdir but the install fails on the pre/postinst scripts. Is there an easy way to do this without having to build my own package? No. In general, dpkg's options to change the root are useful if you have a chroot environment, or if you somehow otherwise have a complete working system installed somewhere other than / (e.g., you're booted off of a rescue CD and your hard disk is mounted on /target or something). The best you could do with this approach is install X stuff in /opt/usr/X11R6/..., and even that wouldn't work because the X server will do things like look for its configuration file in /etc/X11 (and has, in the Debian build, never heard of /opt). As far as X goes, IMHO the easiest way to get an XFree86 4.3 X server (because that's what you're really after, right?) is to download the Xxserv.tgz and Xmod.tgz binary tarballs from xfree86.org, unpack them somewhere like /usr/local, and repoint the /etc/X11/X symlink to point to them. There are also various backports, plus the ~official Debian experimental packages; search the list archives for details. Debian in general doesn't believe in /opt, and relocatable binaries are a hard problem that's not real high on the dpkg feature list. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell Well this is what I have going on. I'm basically building a poor man's laptop with a usb zip250 drive. I've got just enough to get booted up but I need X and a java sdk which is too much to fit on 250 MB. So what I decided I would do is mount some shared memory on /dev/shm and install the pacakages there. When I get ready to shutdown, tar and bzip up the files stored there to somewhere on disk. Make any sense? I downloaded the deb-src of xserver-common to mess around with. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing roots on: dpkg -i
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:50:17AM -0500, David Z Maze wrote: Rob Benton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to install the xfree86 packages with the /opt directory as root. I've tried using --instdir but the install fails on the pre/postinst scripts. Is there an easy way to do this without having to build my own package? No. In general, dpkg's options to change the root are useful if you have a chroot environment, or if you somehow otherwise have a complete working system installed somewhere other than / (e.g., you're booted off of a rescue CD and your hard disk is mounted on /target or something). The best you could do with this approach is install X stuff in /opt/usr/X11R6/..., and even that wouldn't work because the X server will do things like look for its configuration file in /etc/X11 (and has, in the Debian build, never heard of /opt). As far as X goes, IMHO the easiest way to get an XFree86 4.3 X server (because that's what you're really after, right?) is to download the Xxserv.tgz and Xmod.tgz binary tarballs from xfree86.org, unpack them somewhere like /usr/local, and repoint the /etc/X11/X symlink to point to them. There are also various backports, plus the ~official Debian experimental packages; search the list archives for details. Debian in general doesn't believe in /opt, and relocatable binaries are a hard problem that's not real high on the dpkg feature list. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell given the recurrence of opt/ related posts, it might be appropriate to provide an other-distro-refugee howto on debian.org, or, at least, a specifically new user link to fhs resources. as far as i know, the only linux distro that automatically assigns and relies on opt/ is suse (last experience, 8.0; rh 5.0). 3 days of mandrake left me with only a memory of sheer frustration, so much so that i simply can't remember whether opt/ was a part of their plan. i know that opt/ is/was a feature of various *nixes, but i can't see where /usr/local doesn't serve the same objective already. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
changing roots on: dpkg -i
I'm trying to install the xfree86 packages with the /opt directory as root. I've tried using --instdir but the install fails on the pre/postinst scripts. Is there an easy way to do this without having to build my own package? If not is there a way I can modify the binary debs without having to rebuild them from deb-src? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
