Re: Can't locate module char-major-10-135

2002-01-29 Thread Pollywog

On 2002.01.30 00:07 martin f krafft wrote:

also sprach Aldo Maggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.29.2148 +0100]:
> Jan 29 01:27:05 debian modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
char-major-10-135
> what should i check in order to settle the matter?

that's the rtc module.
uhm, what does

  grep char-major-10-135 /etc/modules.conf

say on your system?

and

  find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name rtc.o


It's for the real-time clock.
You can recompile your kernel with real-time clock support and the error 
will disappear.
If you don't want to do that, remove /dev/rtc and the error message will 
go away.


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Re: Can't locate module char-major-10-135

2002-01-29 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Aldo Maggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.01.29.2148 +0100]:
> Jan 29 01:27:05 debian modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module 
> char-major-10-135
> what should i check in order to settle the matter?

that's the rtc module.
uhm, what does

  grep char-major-10-135 /etc/modules.conf

say on your system?

and 

  find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name rtc.o 

?

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Can't locate module char-major-10-135

2002-01-29 Thread Aldo Maggi

my distr. is debian woody
looking into /var/log/syslog i've found the following line:
Jan 29 01:27:05 debian modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135
what should i check in order to settle the matter?
thanks
aldo

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Re: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135 (daemon.log)

2001-07-21 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Gladimir ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010717 21:31]:
> 
> I have tracked this down to the point that I know it is an alias for the
> real time clock, and that it only occurs soon after switching to run-level 6
> and run-level 0.  I also know that the alias exists in two files, that I
> know of; /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modutils/arch/i386.  Removing the alias
> from i386 has no effect.
> 
> I have seen a few people suggesting that I should edit modules.conf, but the
> modules.conf file has comments stating that it should never be edited
> manually.  Is it either safe or effective to manually edit this file?  If
> not the modules.conf file, then which file do I edit to affect this
> workaround until I can compile rtc in the kernel?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> - gladimir

This is most likely being done by /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh. That it
happens with runlevels 0 and 6 would make sense when looking at:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/init.d % ls /etc/rc?.d/*hwclock.sh
/etc/rc0.d/K25hwclock.sh@  /etc/rc6.d/K25hwclock.sh@
/etc/rcS.d/S50hwclock.sh@

The actual command that tries to load the rtc driver is hwclock

from hwclock(8):

   hwclock tries to use /dev/rtc.  If it is  compiled  for  a
   kernel  that doesn't have that function or it is unable to
   open /dev/rtc, hwclock will fall back to  another  method,
   if  available.   On an ISA or Alpha machine, you can force
   hwclock to use the direct manipulation of the CMOS  regis?
   ters  without  even  trying  /dev/rtc  by  specifying  the
   --directisa option.


Looks to me like it tries to access /dev/rtc, which in turn tries to
load the kernel's rtc driver (char-major-10-135).

I saw the same error message with every boot/reboot. My solution was
just to include the rtc driver next time I built my kernel, but you
probably don't need that, and it's not worth recompiling just for
that; try adding the --directisa option in /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh

HTH,
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Re: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135 (daemon.log)

2001-07-21 Thread Guy Geens
>>>>> "listmgr" == listmgr  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

listmgr> I have tracked this down to the point that I know it is an
listmgr> alias for the real time clock, and that it only occurs soon
listmgr> after switching to run-level 6 and run-level 0. I also know
listmgr> that the alias exists in two files, that I know of;
listmgr> /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modutils/arch/i386. Removing the
listmgr> alias from i386 has no effect.

The file /etc/modules.conf is generated from all the files in
/etc/modutils/ . After you change something in one of those files, run
`update-modules' to generate the modules.conf.

You can get rid of the message by adding `alias char-major-10-135
off', but this only hides the real problem: some process tries to
access the RTC, but this functionality is not compiled in your kernel.

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modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135 (daemon.log)

2001-07-17 Thread Gladimir

I have tracked this down to the point that I know it is an alias for the
real time clock, and that it only occurs soon after switching to run-level 6
and run-level 0.  I also know that the alias exists in two files, that I
know of; /etc/modules.conf and /etc/modutils/arch/i386.  Removing the alias
from i386 has no effect.

I have seen a few people suggesting that I should edit modules.conf, but the
modules.conf file has comments stating that it should never be edited
manually.  Is it either safe or effective to manually edit this file?  If
not the modules.conf file, then which file do I edit to affect this
workaround until I can compile rtc in the kernel?

Thanks in advance for any help.

- gladimir



Re: char-major-10-135

2001-04-07 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
Ethan posts:

> yes, hwclock uses /dev/rtc, well at least on powerpc 
> it does, without a working /dev/rtc it fails.

You may be right with a PowerPC but your reasoning  will
not work on an x86 machine.   Can we say that the original
poster did not give us architecture details ? ;-)

> checking it now it seems to fall back to some other 
> method (at least for --show) on x86. 

It is.  Please do read the util-linux docs at
/usr/share/doc/util-linux/README.Debian.hwclock.gz.
You need not have the module 'rtc' at all. So switch it
off and update your modules.conf

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Re: char-major-10-135

2001-04-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 04:15:04PM +0530, Raghavendra Bhat wrote:
> Ethan posts:
> 
> > hwclock uses it to update the hardware clock, this
> > is done at shutdown to keep the clocks synchronized.  
> 
> Agreed that 'hwclock' updates the hardware clock
> while shutting down the m/c.  This does not have 
> anything to do with the 'rtc' module and hwclock does
> in no way use it.  The 'rtc' module gives you access
> to the real time clock (or hardware clock) built 
> into your computer.

yes, hwclock uses /dev/rtc, well at least on powerpc it does, without
a working /dev/rtc it fails.  checking it now it seems to fall back to
some other method (at least for --show) on x86.  do a strace though,
it clearly looks for /dev/rtc.  

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Re: char-major-10-135

2001-04-07 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
Ethan posts:

> hwclock uses it to update the hardware clock, this
> is done at shutdown to keep the clocks synchronized.  

Agreed that 'hwclock' updates the hardware clock
while shutting down the m/c.  This does not have 
anything to do with the 'rtc' module and hwclock does
in no way use it.  The 'rtc' module gives you access
to the real time clock (or hardware clock) built 
into your computer.

Yup, it is a good thing to have rtc support if you do 
data sampling work or on an SMP machine.  Otherwise
it is not needed for a reasonably stable CMOS clock
that you normally have on your uniprocessor m/b.
It should not drift, that is you should have a stable
clock tick.

The hardware clock is synced with the system clock,
when you go down with an init 0/6.  I think that the
system clock can adjust a drifting hardware clock.
How was the system clock set ?  It was set from the
hardware clock when you booted up.  See the script 
hwclock.sh in /etc/rcS.h.  So, is 'rtc' really 
needed ?  I would say no. Correct me if I am wrong,
tnx anyway.

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Re: char-major-10-135

2001-04-07 Thread Philipp Lehman
On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 10:27:07AM +0530, Raghavendra Bhat wrote:
>> Philipp Lehman posts:
>> 
>> > Can I safely change the alias to "off"? 
>> Go ahead, you can switch it off.
>
>hwclock uses it to update the hardware clock, this is done at shutdown
>to keep the clocks syncronized.  

I was expecting something like this, thanks.

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Re: char-major-10-135

2001-04-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 10:27:07AM +0530, Raghavendra Bhat wrote:
> Philipp Lehman posts:
> 
> > is that for "real time clock"? Do I need kernel support
> > for that?
> 
> Yes, it is.  You need to compile 'rtc support' either into
> the kernel or as a module.
> 
> 
> > Can I safely change the alias to "off"? 
> 
> Go ahead, you can switch it off.  Usually a normal 'joe' 
> user does not require 'rtc support'.  Do not forget to run
> 'update-modules' after your change it in your
> /etc/modutils/aliases, so that it re-generates a new 
> modules.conf file.

hwclock uses it to update the hardware clock, this is done at shutdown
to keep the clocks syncronized.  

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Re: char-major-10-135

2001-04-06 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
Philipp Lehman posts:

> is that for "real time clock"? Do I need kernel support
> for that?

Yes, it is.  You need to compile 'rtc support' either into
the kernel or as a module.


> Can I safely change the alias to "off"? 

Go ahead, you can switch it off.  Usually a normal 'joe' 
user does not require 'rtc support'.  Do not forget to run
'update-modules' after your change it in your
/etc/modutils/aliases, so that it re-generates a new 
modules.conf file.


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char-major-10-135

2001-04-06 Thread Philipp Lehman
I'm getting modprobe complaints about char-major-10-135 not being
found. modules.conf defines an alias pointing to "rtc", is that
for "real time clock"? Do I need kernel support for that? Or can
I safely change the alias to "off"? I don't seem to miss
anything in the current situation. TIA

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Re: Fwd: Re: missing char-major-10-135

2001-03-10 Thread Mike
MaD dUCK wrote:
> set rant=on
> 
> somebody please explain to me why this message, posted on 05 Mar 2001:

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I can't be sure, but it looks like the RR servers are having issues.  On
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Re: Fwd: Re: missing char-major-10-135

2001-03-09 Thread brian moore
(wonders why debian-user was copied on the reply, when I didn't post
there...  but what the hell, since you seem to think it's crucial for
the whole world to see)

On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:25:08PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote:
> also sprach brian moore (on Fri, 09 Mar 2001 10:31:53AM -0800):
> > Are you [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> obviously not.

Really?  It's not at all obvious to me.  I have lots and lots of
addresses, many with no public connection between them...  I have no
idea how many you have and where they may be and what forwarding rules
you have between them.

> > Temporary?  No, the mail was sent to an address at rr.com, why would it
> > go to madduck.net?
> > 
> > > the worst - i think i even received this message at one point. what's
> > > going on???
> > 
> > You probably did.  You'd have to ask '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' why he
> > forwarded it to you.
> 
> bouncing it or piping it through any of mail, mailx, binmail,
> sendmail, and qmail-inject will add Resent-* headers to the mail.
> however, there were none in the email. i am really not stupid and i
> know smtp pretty well, but this message really has me stumped.

Who said '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' did any of that?

(And, no, sendmail, as in the package from sendmail.org, doesn't add
resent headers.   A client may.  "echo [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~/.forward"
won't add any resent headers with sendmail or postfix, and probably not
with exim either  I don't know the qmail forward mechanism to know
whether or not it would... but of course, all of that is POINTLESS
because as you noted before, these are servers owned by RoadRunner and
they're running Windows-based MTA's, so how Unix MTA's behave is
irrelevant.)

Why would Debian, in an attempt to mail -you- send it to austin.rr.com
mail servers and address it to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' when they're not
doing that for anyone else?  Hint: they're not.

The question would be, then, why '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' is forwarding
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something debian-user could answer.

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Re: Fwd: Re: missing char-major-10-135

2001-03-09 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach brian moore (on Fri, 09 Mar 2001 10:31:53AM -0800):
> Are you [EMAIL PROTECTED]

obviously not.

> Temporary?  No, the mail was sent to an address at rr.com, why would it
> go to madduck.net?
> 
> > the worst - i think i even received this message at one point. what's
> > going on???
> 
> You probably did.  You'd have to ask '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' why he
> forwarded it to you.

bouncing it or piping it through any of mail, mailx, binmail,
sendmail, and qmail-inject will add Resent-* headers to the mail.
however, there were none in the email. i am really not stupid and i
know smtp pretty well, but this message really has me stumped.

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Fwd: Re: missing char-major-10-135

2001-03-09 Thread MaD dUCK
set rant=on

somebody please explain to me why this message, posted on 05 Mar 2001:

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was handed off by murphy to a micro$oft server:

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before being relayed by another micro$oft server 14 hours later:

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before finally arriving at mine 32 hours later:

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???

usually, messages from murphy go straight:

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and arrive in a timely manner.

okay, i am sure that some form of temporary mail relay chain could
have been put in place for whatever reason, but please, someone give
me a clue why this chain has to involve two micro$oft servers which
take 46 hours total to get the message to me?

does debian have a regular mailbox? because i'd much rather send my
replies USPS -- which would be faster than micros~1 SMTPSVC (ugh!).

the worst - i think i even received this message at one point. what's
going on???

set rant=off

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Re: missing char-major-10-135

2001-03-05 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach Osamu Aoki (on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:28:29PM -0800):
> I guess this is to /etc/modutils/aliases.  

yes

> But who is responsible making this entry? Me or some postinst script?  

nope. you are dealing with kernel options. that's underneath debian.
so it's all you.

> I only edit /etc/modules to enable some modules manually (scsi-ide,...)
> but I was not anticipating to do this manually to /etc/modutils/aliases.  
> I thought that was only when I compile my kernel.  Is this IDE kernel thing?

not IDE at all. it is a kernel thing. you either alias
char-major-10-135 off, or you roll your own kernel with module rtc.o.

martin

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Re: missing char-major-10-135

2001-03-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
Thanks guys.

I guess this is to /etc/modutils/aliases.  

But who is responsible making this entry? Me or some postinst script?  

I only edit /etc/modules to enable some modules manually (scsi-ide,...)
but I was not anticipating to do this manually to /etc/modutils/aliases.  
I thought that was only when I compile my kernel.  Is this IDE kernel thing?

I am using default potato 2.2 IDE kernel.

Osamu

On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 12:33:13PM -0500, MaD dUCK wrote:
> also sprach Osamu Aoki (on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:47:50AM -0800):
> > Which paxckage is responsible with this problem of missing "rtc"?
> > 
> > Anyother package?
> > Boot floppy(IDE)?
> 
> it's a kernel option. i have rtc as a module and then
> 
> alias char-major-10-135 rtc
> 
> in my /etc/modutils somewhere.
> 
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Re: missing char-major-10-135

2001-03-05 Thread Ilya Martynov
>>>>> "OA" == Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

OA> Since this is fresh install, this should not happen, I guess.
OA> Which paxckage is responsible with this problem of missing "rtc"?

I also see it on stratup with my customized kernel. I belive it
happens when startup script setups linux clock from CMOS.

For me it happens becouse my kernel is compiled without Real Time
Clock support, has support for modules autoloading and I've not
compiled module for it. Probably your kernel also doesn't have it.

If you don't like this warning edit your /etc/modules.conf and add
there line:

alias char-major-10-135 off

I belive it should help. I've not tried it.

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Re: missing char-major-10-135

2001-03-05 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach Osamu Aoki (on Mon, 05 Mar 2001 08:47:50AM -0800):
> Which paxckage is responsible with this problem of missing "rtc"?
> 
> Anyother package?
> Boot floppy(IDE)?

it's a kernel option. i have rtc as a module and then

alias char-major-10-135 rtc

in my /etc/modutils somewhere.

martin

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Re: missing char-major-10-135

2001-03-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
Since this is fresh install, this should not happen, I guess.

Which paxckage is responsible with this problem of missing "rtc"?

Anyother package?
Boot floppy(IDE)?

I am thinking filing bug report.

Osamu

On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 08:49:29AM -0500, mike polniak wrote:
> Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > I just installed fresh woody system using 2 potato floppies. It was
> > smooth for testing but now I get missing char-major-10-135 when I
> > reboot.
>  >ls -l /dev/* |grep '^c.*10,.*135' shows rtc
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Re: missing char-major-10-135

2001-03-05 Thread mike polniak
Osamu Aoki wrote:
> I just installed fresh woody system using 2 potato floppies. It was
> smooth for testing but now I get missing char-major-10-135 when I
> reboot.
 >  ls -l /dev/* |grep '^c.*10,.*135' shows rtc
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missing char-major-10-135

2001-03-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
I just installed fresh woody system using 2 potato floppies. It was
smooth for testing but now I get missing char-major-10-135 when I
reboot.

Any idea.  Do I need to makenod?

Osamu
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RE: modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

2000-12-17 Thread Jon Pennington
Jason Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> Pete,
>   I'm not sure about that.  I always edit it by hand, just because I've
> become comfortable doing that.  if there is another way, or official way of
> making changes to this file, I'd like to hear about it.  Anyone??

If you're still confused after digging through man update-modules (which I was
still a /bit/ nervous), the long and the short of it is that any changes you
*would* make to /etc/modules.conf *should* be added to /etc/modutils/local (a
regular file).  I keep a copy of modules.conf from a SuSE 7.0 box handy for
referece :).

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Re: modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

2000-12-17 Thread David Wright
Quoting Jason Holland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> > >   To get rid of that, put this line in your /etc/modules.conf file

>   I'm not sure about that.  I always edit it by hand, just because I've
> become comfortable doing that.  if there is another way, or official way of
> making changes to this file, I'd like to hear about it.  Anyone??

man update-modules

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RE: modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

2000-12-17 Thread Jason Holland
Pete,
  I'm not sure about that.  I always edit it by hand, just because I've
become comfortable doing that.  if there is another way, or official way of
making changes to this file, I'd like to hear about it.  Anyone??

Jason

>
> i thought we weren't supposed to modify that file by hand?
>
> is that the "proper" way of doing it, or is there an official
> debian method
> that doesn't involve editing that file by hand?
>
> pete
>
> On Sat 16 Dec 00,  8:02 PM, Jason Holland said...
> > Sven,
> >   To get rid of that, put this line in your /etc/modules.conf file
> >
> > alias char-major-10-135 off
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > >
> > > Hello debs,
> > >
> > > How do I fix the following?
> > >
> > > modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135
> > >
> > > This appears when booting my potato box. Why does this come up?
> > > I mean, what is missing / wrong?
> > >
> > > Cheers
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Re: modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

2000-12-17 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
i thought we weren't supposed to modify that file by hand?

is that the "proper" way of doing it, or is there an official debian method
that doesn't involve editing that file by hand?

pete

On Sat 16 Dec 00,  8:02 PM, Jason Holland said...
> Sven,
>   To get rid of that, put this line in your /etc/modules.conf file
> 
> alias char-major-10-135 off
> 
> Jason
> 
> > 
> > Hello debs,
> > 
> > How do I fix the following?
> > 
> > modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135
> > 
> > This appears when booting my potato box. Why does this come up? 
> > I mean, what is missing / wrong?
> > 
> > Cheers
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Re: modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

2000-12-17 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
for what it's worth, that device is your "RTC", or, real time clock.

the kernel is looking for rtc.o and isn't finding it...

in the future, you can find the device for a particular major/minor number
from /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt.

pete

On Sun 17 Dec 00,  2:27 AM, Sven Burgener said...
> Hello debs,
> 
> How do I fix the following?
> 
> modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135
> 
> This appears when booting my potato box. Why does this come up? 
> I mean, what is missing / wrong?
> 
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Re: modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

2000-12-17 Thread Jim McClosky

> How do I fix the following?
> 
> modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135
> 
> This appears when booting my potato box. Why does this come up? 
> I mean, what is missing / wrong?

What special privileges does the Real Time Clock enjoy?  For the
longest time after I had compiled a 2.2.17 kernel, this error would
appear in the log-files. I'd comment out the line in modules.conf and
the errors would cease. I'd re-rerun update-modules (for whatever
independent reason) and the line would re-appear un-commented in
modules.conf and the error-messages would resume. It took me a while
to figure out that it was re-appearing in modules.conf because there
was a corresponding entry in /etc/modutils/arch/i386.  I deleted the
line from that file and the error messages ceased.

What I'm curious about, though, is how the line ever came to be in the
i386 file within /etc/modutils/arch.  I always say no (not M) to that
option when configuring the kernel,

Jim




RE: modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

2000-12-16 Thread Jason Holland
Sven,
  To get rid of that, put this line in your /etc/modules.conf file

alias char-major-10-135 off

Jason

> 
> Hello debs,
> 
> How do I fix the following?
> 
> modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135
> 
> This appears when booting my potato box. Why does this come up? 
> I mean, what is missing / wrong?
> 
> Cheers
> Sven
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modprobe module problem (char-major-10-135)

2000-12-16 Thread Sven Burgener
Hello debs,

How do I fix the following?

modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135

This appears when booting my potato box. Why does this come up? 
I mean, what is missing / wrong?

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Re: No char-major-10-135

2000-11-14 Thread Mark Carroll
On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote:
(snip)
> Just put a comment '#' in front of the alias and run "update-modules".
> It's for the "Real Time Clock" which is mostly not used, except in
> applications that need microsecond real-time stuff (most likely control
> systems, etc.).

Thanks! (-: I got,

/etc# update-modules
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.15/fs/lockd.o

...but recompiling them seems to have fixed it. (-:

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Re: No char-major-10-135

2000-11-14 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 06:07:16PM -0500, Mark Carroll wrote:
> Since upgrading to the latest stable release, at boot-time I get:
> 
>   modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135
> 
> The upgrade has put in my /etc/modules.conf:
> 
>   alias char-major-10-135 rtc
> 
> Where do I look in my 2.2.15's kernel's "make menuconfig" to find the
> thing that is needed? (Or do I need to fix something in /etc/ ?)

Just put a comment '#' in front of the alias and run "update-modules".
It's for the "Real Time Clock" which is mostly not used, except in
applications that need microsecond real-time stuff (most likely control
systems, etc.).

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No char-major-10-135

2000-11-14 Thread Mark Carroll
Since upgrading to the latest stable release, at boot-time I get:

modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135

The upgrade has put in my /etc/modules.conf:

alias char-major-10-135 rtc

Where do I look in my 2.2.15's kernel's "make menuconfig" to find the
thing that is needed? (Or do I need to fix something in /etc/ ?)

Thanks. (-:

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Re: modprobe: Cannot locate module char-major-10

1999-01-02 Thread Carey Evans
"Jeroen N. Witmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have searched the mailing list archives for this problem, and I
> understand it can be solved by aliasing module char-major-10 to off, but
> I would like to understand what is going on. (It is not really a
> problem, because in spite of the message everything seems to work.)

[snip]

> In human language: The Debian 2.0.34 configured the serial support as a
> module, whereas I included it into the 2.0.36 kernel itself.  It seems
> that, even when the serial support is included into the kernel,
> 'somebody' still wants to access it as a module, but I can't find who,
> where and why.

Serial ports are on char-major-4; see "ls -l /dev/ttyS0":

crw-rw   1 root dialout4,  64 Feb 10  1998 /dev/ttyS0
 major ^   ^^ minor

char-major-10 is misc devices such as psaux, watchdog, apm and nvram - 
"cat /proc/misc" should list the ones you're using.

Presumably something is trying to access one of the misc devices.  You 
might be able to get some idea of what's happening with:

$ cd /dev
$ ls -ltur
[...]
crw-rw   1 uucp dialout4,  65 Jan  3 10:32 ttyS1
crw---   1 root sys   10,   1 Jan  3 11:53 psaux
prw-r--r--   1 root root0 Jan  3 11:55 xconsole|
[...]
crw-rw-rw-   1 root root   2,   1 Jan  3 11:58 ptyp1
crw--w   1 careytty3,   1 Jan  3 11:58 ttyp1
crw--w--w-   1 root root   4,   7 Jan  3 11:58 tty7
$ 

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Re: modprobe: Cannot locate module char-major-10

1999-01-01 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
"Jeroen N. Witmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The problem appeared on my box when I upgraded from the Debian hamm
> kernel 2.0.34 to a 2.0.36 kernel straight from linux. The only
> relevent difference in the configuration of these kernels seems to
> be:
> 
> diff -u /boot/config-2.0.34 /usr/src/linux-2.0.36/.config
>  #
>  # Character devices
>  #
> -CONFIG_SERIAL=m
> +CONFIG_SERIAL=y
> 
> In human language: The Debian 2.0.34 configured the serial support
> as a module, whereas I included it into the 2.0.36 kernel itself.
> It seems that, even when the serial support is included into the
> kernel, 'somebody' still wants to access it as a module, but I can't
> find who, where and why.
> 
> Can somebody explain what is going on?  Thanks in advance.

Please check the contents of your /etc/modules file (the comments at
the begin should explain its purpose).

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modprobe: Cannot locate module char-major-10

1998-12-31 Thread Jeroen N. Witmond
I have searched the mailing list archives for this problem, and I
understand it can be solved by aliasing module char-major-10 to off, but
I would like to understand what is going on. (It is not really a
problem, because in spite of the message everything seems to work.)

The problem appeared on my box when I upgraded from the Debian hamm
kernel 2.0.34 to a 2.0.36 kernel straight from linux. The only relevent
difference in the configuration of these kernels seems to be:

diff -u /boot/config-2.0.34 /usr/src/linux-2.0.36/.config
 #
 # Character devices
 #
-CONFIG_SERIAL=m
+CONFIG_SERIAL=y

In human language: The Debian 2.0.34 configured the serial support as a
module, whereas I included it into the 2.0.36 kernel itself.  It seems
that, even when the serial support is included into the kernel,
'somebody' still wants to access it as a module, but I can't find who,
where and why.

Can somebody explain what is going on?  Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: what is char-major-10?

1997-10-05 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
Miscellaneous char devices.  See
/usr/src/kernel-source-*/Documantation/devices.txt.

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what is char-major-10?

1997-10-05 Thread Lawrence



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Re: can't locate module char-major-10

1997-09-04 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
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can't locate module char-major-10

1997-09-04 Thread Aria Prima Novianto

Hi,
Every time I connect using pppd, I got this message in my console
after get connected:

pppd[257]: remote IP address 128.10.16.110
modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10

I can't find char-major-10 module in my kernel source. Is it safe to
put 'alias char-major-10 off' in /etc/conf.modules?

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Re: can't locate module char-major-10

1997-09-04 Thread jdassen
On Sep 4, Aria Prima Novianto wrote
> Every time I connect using pppd, I got this message in my console
> after get connected:
> 
> pppd[257]: remote IP address 128.10.16.110
> modprobe: can't locate module char-major-10
> 
> I can't find char-major-10 module in my kernel source. Is it safe to put
> 'alias char-major-10 off' in /etc/conf.modules?

On Sep 4, Luis Francisco Gonzalez answered
> char-major-10 is the mouse. If this appears right after the pppd is
> started, I would guess that you have somehow set the mouse to be connected
> to the serial port where in reality you have your modem. Check for links
> in /dev or the configuration of gpm or something similar.

char-major-10 is non-serial mice _and miscellaneous features_ (e.g. APM
BIOS and real time clock). 

I'd suggest 
alias char-major-10-??? off
^^^ minor device number.

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Re: Mouse : can't locate module char-major-10

1996-11-06 Thread Andre Dewevre

> > Hello All,
> > 
> > I am new to Linux and of course new to the Debian distribution.
> > 
> > Recently I tried to install X on my box using the vga16 server. When
> > started, the server immediately die with a message "Cannot open
> > mouse : (no such device).
> > 

> 
> I had the same problem.  As far as I know, Debian does not include 
> PS/2 driver as a module, so you'll have to recompile your kenel :(.
> 
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Igor,

Many thanks for your suggestion. I recompiled the kernel with PS/2 
mouse support and the mouse is now working.

Andre

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Re: Mouse : can't locate module char-major-10

1996-11-05 Thread Igor Grobman
> Hello All,
> 
> I am new to Linux and of course new to the Debian distribution.
> 
> Recently I tried to install X on my box using the vga16 server. When
> started, the server immediately die with a message "Cannot open
> mouse : (no such device).
> 
> Because X is a rather complex package, I tried to troubleshoot my
> mouse problem using gpm. The result was the same as with X, now the
> message is gpm : /dev/psmouse :  No shuch device. Because psmouse is
> a symbolic link a also tried psaux and because it still didn't work,
> I even tried /dev/msmouse and /dev/inportbm (in fact this is a
> non-sense because my mouse is a PS-2 style).
> 
> The problem is not the mouse hardware, because under Windows95, the
> same mouse on the same PC work ok. It is discovered as a PS/2
> compatible mouse using interrupt 12.
> 
> The computer is a Gateway 2000 P100. I think they use an Intel
> Alladin mother-board, but I am not completly sure. The mouse
> is a Microsoft "Mouse Port Compatible 2.0"
> 
> I had also a look at /proc/devices and I didn't find any mouse
> device there. Also /proc/interrupts do not show any entry for
> interrupt 12.
> 
> Finally I found that every time a started X or gpm, I got an entry
> in daemon.log : "modprobe : can't locate module  char-major-10
> 
> So it seems that I need to load a module for my mouse.
> In /usr/lib/module_help/modules I found that modules
> should exist for psaux and mouse, however I didn't find any
> psaux.o or mouse.o on my system.
> 
> Now I am stuck. I only see two possibilities :
> 
> 1)I really need to load psaux.o and mouse.o; but where can I found
>   those files?
> 
> 2)The mouse driver is build in the kernel and for some reason the
> mouse is not detected at boot-up. How can I force the mouse
> configuration?
> 
> I have really no idea which of those two possibilities is correct.
> As I am new to Linux maybe I made a stupid mistake.
> 
> All the software was loaded from the stable subtree of the 
> distribution. Kernel is 2.0.6.
> 
> Any help would be appraciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andre Dewevre
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Mouse : can't locate module char-major-10

1996-11-04 Thread Andre Dewevre
Hello All,

I am new to Linux and of course new to the Debian distribution.

Recently I tried to install X on my box using the vga16 server.
When started, the server immediately die with a message
"Cannot open mouse : (no such device).

Because X is a rather complex package, I tried to troubleshoot 
my mouse problem using gpm. The result was the same as
with X, now the message is gpm : /dev/psmouse :  No shuch device.
Because psmouse is a symbolic link a also tried psaux and because
it still didn't work, I even tried /dev/msmouse and /dev/inportbm (in
fact this is a non-sense because my mouse is a PS-2 style).

The problem is not the mouse hardware, because under Windows95,
the same mouse on the same PC work ok. It is discovered as a PS/2
compatible mouse using interrupt 12.

The computer is a Gateway 2000 P100. I think they use an Intel
Alladin mother-board, but I am not completly sure. The mouse
is a Microsoft "Mouse Port Compatible 2.0"

I had also a look at /proc/devices and I didn't find any mouse device 
there. Also /proc/interrupts do not show any entry for interrupt 12.

Finally I found that every time a started X or gpm, I got an entry
in daemon.log : "modprobe : can't locate module  char-major-10

So it seems that I need to load a module for my mouse.
In /usr/lib/module_help/modules I found that modules
should exist for psaux and mouse, however I didn't find any
psaux.o or mouse.o on my system.

Now I am stuck. I only see two possibilities :

1)I really need to load psaux.o and mouse.o; but where can I found
  those files?

2)The mouse driver is build in the kernel and for some reason the 
mouse is not detected at boot-up. How can I force the mouse 
configuration?

I have really no idea which of those two possibilities is correct.
As I am new to Linux maybe I made a stupid mistake.

All the software was loaded from the stable subtree of the 
distribution. Kernel is 2.0.6.

Any help would be appraciated.

Thanks,

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Re: char-major-10

1996-09-11 Thread Michael Meskes
Bernd Eckenfels writes:
> Therefore there is one alias needed:
> 
> alias char-major-10 misc
> 
> Each single device with major 10 will be requested from kerneld with:
> 
> char-major-10-%d, therefore the following aliases are needed in addition:
> 
> alias char-major-10-0 busmouse
> alias char-major-10-1 psaux
> alias char-major-10-2 msbusmouse
> alias char-major-10-4 amigamouse
> alias char-major-10-5 atarimouse
> alias char-major-10-6 ?
> alias char-major-10-130 wdt (or softdog)
> alias char-major-10-131 wdt
> alias char-major-10-134 apm_bios
> alias char-major-10-135 rtc

Quite a lot of these are already built into the kerneld source (at least if
you use a fairly new one). Please tell me which of these aliases is missing
in the latest modules release.

Michael

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Re: char-major-10

1996-09-11 Thread Michael Meskes
Boris Beletsky writes:
> lists>add in /etc/conf.modules:
> lists>alias char-major-10 misc
> how about :
> alias char-major-10 off ?
> cause i realy don't have non serial mice

Yes, you should set all modules to off that get requested despite not being
available.

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Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Vadik V. Vygonets
On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Boris Beletsky wrote:

> bruce> [...] Do this command:
> bruce>
> bruce>ls /dev |grep "10,"
> bruce>
> bruce>and you will see those devices - you are trying to open one of them.
> bruce>Perhaps one of the mouse interfaces?
> 
> -
> sim:~# ls /dev | grep "10,"
> Exit 1
> sim:~# ls /dev | grep "10"
> [lots of crap]
> -
> so is it "10," / "10" ?
> and i am not sure how can i find the solution to this prob.
> I think i missed somthing. can u plz tell me what exactly device i should
> create?
> 
> thks alot

The command is kinda wrong.  See this:

marvin:~> ls -l /dev | grep 10,
crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   10,   3 Jan  1  1970 atimouse
crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   10,   4 Jan  1  1970 jmouse
crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   10,   0 Jan  1  1970 logimouse
crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   10,   2 Jan  1  1970 msmouse
crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   10,   1 Jan  1  1970 psmouse
marvin:~> 

> borik

Vad.

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Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Boris Beletsky
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On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:


lists>add in /etc/conf.modules:
lists>alias char-major-10 misc
how about :
alias char-major-10 off ?
cause i realy don't have non serial mice

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Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hi,

> how exactly i add the alias :
> alias char-major-10 char-major-10-%d ?

add in /etc/conf.modules:
alias char-major-10 misc

or even better load misc.o from /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/misc.o (or
/lib/modues/current/misc/mic.o)

This module will request itself the char-major-10-%d modules and you will
get another missing entry in the logs with the minor number added.

Greetings
Bernd



Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Boris Beletsky
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On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:


lists> 10 charNon-serial mice, misc features
what i have here is a simple serial mouse
i don't understand why is this device was requested in the first place

lists>BTW: if you add the alias for char-major-10 you will get requests for
lists>char-major-10-%d (with %d is a number from the above list) and you should
lists>know which device is missing.
how exactly i add the alias :
alias char-major-10 char-major-10-%d ?

thks alot
borik


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Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Christian Hudon
On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Boris Beletsky wrote:

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> 
> On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> 
> lists>alias char-major-10-0 busmouse
> lists>alias char-major-10-1 psaux
> lists>alias char-major-10-2 msbusmouse
> lists>alias char-major-10-4 amigamouse
> lists>alias char-major-10-5 atarimouse
> the only prob is that i don't use bus/msbus/amiga/atarimouse
> i use simple (trivial!) mman logitech
> so i don't understand why the kerneld looking for that module *shrug*

Btw, if your system is working fine (i.e. mouse working, etc.) you can
just ignore the kerneld message. It doesn't do any harm, other than being
slightly annoying. That's what I do.

Everyone: is there no way of knowing the minor number of the char-10
device for which kerneld got the request? (Without patching kerneld, that
is.)

  Christian




Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hi,

> so is it "10," / "10" ?

ls -l /dev |grep "10,"

From: /usr/src/linux/Documantation/devices.txt:

 10 charNon-serial mice, misc features
  0 = /dev/logibm   Logitech bus mouse
  1 = /dev/psauxPS/2-style mouse port
  2 = /dev/inportbm Microsoft Inport bus mouse
  3 = /dev/atibmATI XL bus mouse
  4 = /dev/jbm  J-mouse
  4 = /dev/amigamouse   Amiga mouse (68k/Amiga)
  5 = /dev/atarimouse   Atari mouse
  6 = /dev/sunmouse Sun mouse
  7 = /dev/amigamouse1  Second Amiga mouse
128 = /dev/beep Fancy beep device
129 = /dev/modreq   Kernel module load request
130 = /dev/watchdog Watchdog timer port
131 = /dev/temperature  Machine internal temperature
132 = /dev/hwtrap   Hardware fault trap
133 = /dev/exttrp   External device trap
134 = /dev/apm_bios Advanced Power Management BIOS
135 = /dev/rtc  Real Time Clock
136 = /dev/qcam0QuickCam on lp0
137 = /dev/qcam1QuickCam on lp1
138 = /dev/qcam2QuickCam on lp2
139 = /dev/openprom SPARC OpenBoot PROM

BTW: if you add the alias for char-major-10 you will get requests for
char-major-10-%d (with %d is a number from the above list) and you should
know which device is missing.

Greetings
Bernd



Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Boris Beletsky
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On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Susan G. Kleinmann wrote:

sgk>Hi Boris --
sgk>Try instead:
sgk>ls -l /dev | grep "10,"
thks alot all!
we solved it with bruce. (well - kinda)
*bow*
Regards
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Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Boris --

Bruce suggested:
> bruce>ls /dev |grep "10,"

Try instead:
ls -l /dev | grep "10,"

Good luck,
Susan Kleinmann



Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
Hi,

> > Sep  9 03:53:44 sim modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10
> 
> You are running kerneld. You go to open a character device with major
> number 10. There is no driver for the device and kerneld tries to load
> it.

char-major-10 is handled by the drivers/char/misc.o 

(which will be installed in the kernel if:

#if defined (CONFIG_BUSMOUSE) || defined(CONFIG_UMISC) || \
defined (CONFIG_PSMOUSE) || defined (CONFIG_MS_BUSMOUSE) || \
defined (CONFIG_ATIXL_BUSMOUSE) || defined(CONFIG_SOFT_WATCHDOG) || \
defined (CONFIG_PCWATCHDOG) || \
defined (CONFIG_APM) || defined (CONFIG_RTC) || defined (CONFIG_SUN_MOUSE)
). If none of those options are installed into the kernel, and it will be
compiled as a module if one of the above options are build as modules.

Therefore there is one alias needed:

alias char-major-10 misc

Each single device with major 10 will be requested from kerneld with:

char-major-10-%d, therefore the following aliases are needed in addition:

alias char-major-10-0 busmouse
alias char-major-10-1 psaux
alias char-major-10-2 msbusmouse
alias char-major-10-4 amigamouse
alias char-major-10-5 atarimouse
alias char-major-10-6 ?
alias char-major-10-130 wdt (or softdog)
alias char-major-10-131 wdt
alias char-major-10-134 apm_bios
alias char-major-10-135 rtc

(this is what i read from the source, it is neighter complete nor i am sure
if it is correct).

Greetings
Bernd
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Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

I assume that Bruce meant

$ ls -l /dev | grep "10,"

which yields: 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> ls -l /dev|grep "10,"
crw-rw   1 root sys   10, 134 Dec 31  1969 apm_bios
crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   10,   3 Dec 31  1969 atibm
crw-rw   1 root audio 10, 128 Dec 31  1969 beep
crw-rw   1 root sys   10, 133 Dec 31  1969 exttrap
crw-rw   1 root sys   10, 132 Dec 31  1969 hwtrap
crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   10,   2 Dec 31  1969 inportbm
crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   10,   4 Dec 31  1969 jbm
crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   10,   0 Dec 31  1969 logibm
crw-rw   1 root sys   10, 129 Dec 31  1969 modreq
crw-rw-rw-   1 root sys   10,   1 Dec 31  1969 psaux
crw-rw   1 root lp10, 138 Dec 31  1969 qcam0
crw-rw   1 root sys   10, 135 Dec 31  1969 rtc
crw-rw   1 root sys   10, 131 Dec 31  1969 temperature
crw-rw   1 root sys   10, 130 Dec 31  1969 watchdog 

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Re: char-major-10

1996-09-10 Thread Bruce Perens
[Trying to find which major-10 device he's opening]
> sim:~# ls /dev | grep "10,"

Oops. Make that

ls -l /dev | grep "10,"

Bruce



Re: char-major-10

1996-09-09 Thread Boris Beletsky
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On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:

lists>alias char-major-10-0 busmouse
lists>alias char-major-10-1 psaux
lists>alias char-major-10-2 msbusmouse
lists>alias char-major-10-4 amigamouse
lists>alias char-major-10-5 atarimouse
the only prob is that i don't use bus/msbus/amiga/atarimouse
i use simple (trivial!) mman logitech
so i don't understand why the kerneld looking for that module *shrug*

borik

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Re: char-major-10

1996-09-09 Thread Boris Beletsky
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On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Bruce Perens wrote:

bruce>You are running kerneld. You go to open a character device with major
bruce>number 10. There is no driver for the device and kerneld tries to load
bruce>it. Do this command:
bruce>
bruce>  ls /dev |grep "10,"
bruce>
bruce>and you will see those devices - you are trying to open one of them.
bruce>Perhaps one of the mouse interfaces?

- -
sim:~# ls /dev | grep "10,"
Exit 1
sim:~# ls /dev | grep "10"
fd0h410
fd1u1040
hda10
hdb10
hdc10
hdd10
sda10
sdb10
sdc10
sdd10
sde10
sdf10
sdg10
sdh10
tty10
xda10
xdb10
xdc10
xdd10
- -
so is it "10," / "10" ?
and i am not sure how can i find the solution to this prob.
I think i missed somthing. can u plz tell me what exactly device i should
create?

thks alot
borik

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Re: char-major-10

1996-09-09 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Boris Beletsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sep  9 03:53:44 sim modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10

You are running kerneld. You go to open a character device with major
number 10. There is no driver for the device and kerneld tries to load
it. Do this command:

ls /dev |grep "10,"

and you will see those devices - you are trying to open one of them.
Perhaps one of the mouse interfaces?

Bruce



char-major-10

1996-09-09 Thread Boris Beletsky
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Sep  9 03:53:44 sim modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10
any ideas what that module mean?
and another one
where can i look for module aliases execpt /etc/module.conf
i saw it somewhere
but can't remmeber now
thks
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