Re: cpu arch performance

2000-05-24 Thread Daniel Reuter
Hello Lee,

On Tue, 23 May 2000, Lee Elliott wrote:

 Hello list(s),
  
 Just something I noticed after setting up an x86 system after running
 Debian on m68k.
 
 The m68k system was an Amiga with an m68060/50MHz which gave a BogoMIP
 rating of 99.something.  The x86 system is a dual PIII 650MHz system and
 it rates as 2600 BogoMIPs.  This would seem to imply that on a per MHz
 basis, the m68060 is the equivalent of two PIIIs.

This is right. 
AFAIK, the hardware side of the issue goes something like this:
One phase of the clock signal looks something like this:

Voltage
high  
 |||
low  |||

The x86 Processors will issue a command whenever the signal voltage is
high. The m68k processors will issue a command whenever the signal voltage
is high and the next when it's low (Motorola claims, that the 68060
issues three commands per clock cycle, I don't know why you then don't get
three times  the MIPS value of a x86 on a per MHz basis. I also don't
know if the above mentioned holds true for Pentium and upwards. But it
holds true for 386 and 486). This is why a m68k processor is on a per MHz
basis really twice as fast as a x86 processor.
Regards,
Daniel



Re: cpu arch performance

2000-05-24 Thread Kenneth Scharf
On Tue, 23 May 2000, Lee Elliott wrote:

 Hello list(s),
  
 Just something I noticed after setting up an x86
system after running
 Debian on m68k.
 
 The m68k system was an Amiga with an m68060/50MHz
which gave a 
BogoMIP
 rating of 99.something.  The x86 system is a dual
PIII 650MHz system 
and
 it rates as 2600 BogoMIPs.  This would seem to imply
that on a per 
MHz
 basis, the m68060 is the equivalent of two PIIIs.

This is right. 
AFAIK, the hardware side of the issue goes something
like this:
One phase of the clock signal looks something like
this:

Voltage
high  
 |||
low  |||

The x86 Processors will issue a command whenever the
signal voltage is
high. The m68k processors will issue a command
whenever the signal 
voltage
is high and the next when it's low (Motorola claims,
that the 68060
issues three commands per clock cycle, I don't know
why you then don't 
get
three times  the MIPS value of a x86 on a per MHz
basis. I also don't
know if the above mentioned holds true for Pentium and
upwards. But it
holds true for 386 and 486). This is why a m68k
processor is on a per 
MHz
basis really twice as fast as a x86 processor.
Regards,
Daniel

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The AMD K6 also gives about 2x the clock in bogo mips.
 Not sure about the K7/Athlon though.

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cpu arch performance

2000-05-23 Thread Lee Elliott
Hello list(s),


Just something I noticed after setting up an x86 system after running
Debian on m68k.

The m68k system was an Amiga with an m68060/50MHz which gave a BogoMIP
rating of 99.something.  The x86 system is a dual PIII 650MHz system and
it rates as 2600 BogoMIPs.  This would seem to imply that on a per MHz
basis, the m68060 is the equivalent of two PIIIs.

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Re: cpu arch performance

2000-05-23 Thread Ashley Clark
* Lee Elliott in cpu arch performance dated 2000/05/23 22:49 wrote:

 Hello list(s),
 
 Just something I noticed after setting up an x86 system after running
 Debian on m68k.
 
 The m68k system was an Amiga with an m68060/50MHz which gave a BogoMIP
 rating of 99.something.  The x86 system is a dual PIII 650MHz system and
 it rates as 2600 BogoMIPs.  This would seem to imply that on a per MHz
 basis, the m68060 is the equivalent of two PIIIs.

From Jargon File (4.2.0, 31 JAN 2000) [jargon]:

  BogoMIPS bo'go-mips The number of million times a second a
  processor can do absolutely nothing.  The {Linux} OS measures
  BogoMIPS at startup in order to calibrate some soft timing loops
  that will be used later on; details at the BogoMIPS mini-HOWTO
  (http://www.hobby.nl/~clifton).  The name Linus chose, of course, is
  an ironic comment on the uselessness of all _other_ {MIPS} figures.

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Re: cpu arch performance

2000-05-23 Thread Andreas Oeldenberger
Lee Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 it rates as 2600 BogoMIPs.  This would seem to imply that on a per MHz
 basis, the m68060 is the equivalent of two PIIIs.

http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/BogoMips.html

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