Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 03 May 2012 02:54:47 Indulekha wrote:
 Please kindly reference the notice at the bottom of every single
 email you get from this list

It isn't at the end of Tina Braxton's email.  So she may be recieving none.

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 02 May 2012 23:52:05 tina braxton wrote:
 Please take me off this list.  Thanks.

We can't, Tina.  It has to be you.  Here are the instructions:  

To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
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HTH,
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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674 ERRATUM

2012-05-03 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 03 May 2012 09:58:08 Lisi wrote:
 recieving

Ouch!  receiving


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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 03 mai 12, 09:58:08, Lisi wrote:
 
 It isn't at the end of Tina Braxton's email.  So she may be recieving none.

It doesn't depend on the receiver, but the sender, i.e. my mail will not 
have the instructions appended because I use GPG/MIME[1].

I don't think this is a significant problem because, IMHO, people will 
tend to read other peoples' mails more carefully than their own :)

[1] IIRC SmartList will not append instructions to any multi-part MIME 
messages, like the ones with GPG/MIME signatures or text+html parts.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 03 May 2012 10:27:11 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 It doesn't depend on the receiver, but the sender, i.e. my mail will not
 have the instructions appended because I use GPG/MIME[1].

 I don't think this is a significant problem because, IMHO, people will
 tend to read other peoples' mails more carefully than their own :)

At that rate, it is the digest that doesn't have it.  When I said Emma's mail, 
I meant the mail she had received and to which she was replying.

So we must just be more tolerant when those who read the digest don't know how 
to unsubscribe.

Lisi


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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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Hash: SHA1

03.05.2012 12:27, Andrei POPESCU kirjoitti:
 On Jo, 03 mai 12, 09:58:08, Lisi wrote:
 
 It isn't at the end of Tina Braxton's email.  So she may be 
 recieving none.
 
 It doesn't depend on the receiver, but the sender, i.e. my mail 
 will not have the instructions appended because I use GPG/MIME[1].
 
 I don't think this is a significant problem because, IMHO, people 
 will tend to read other peoples' mails more carefully than their 
 own :)
 
 [1] IIRC SmartList will not append instructions to any multi-part 
 MIME messages, like the ones with GPG/MIME signatures or text+html 
 parts.
 
 Kind regards, Andrei

You are right, I don't see that in your messages.

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gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4DB53CFE82A46728
Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A  AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728

I use GPG/INLINE, because some mailing list programs modify the headers
of messages and this way make signature.asc files (PGP/MIME)
unverifiable. Please remove lines about beginning and ending GPG
signature blocks in your replies to messages, which are sent by me.
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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Mika Suomalainen
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03.05.2012 13:25, Lisi kirjoitti:
 On Thursday 03 May 2012 10:27:11 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 It doesn't depend on the receiver, but the sender, i.e. my mail
 will not have the instructions appended because I use
 GPG/MIME[1].
 
 I don't think this is a significant problem because, IMHO, people
 will tend to read other peoples' mails more carefully than their
 own :)
 
 At that rate, it is the digest that doesn't have it.  When I said
 Emma's mail, I meant the mail she had received and to which she was
 replying.
 
 So we must just be more tolerant when those who read the digest
 don't know how to unsubscribe.
 
 Lisi
 
 

Now that you mentioned it, wasn't there some different method to
unsubscribe from digest emails?
When I moved to normal emails from digest emails, I had to tick the
receive digest emails box at mailing list page and then press
unsubscribe before it let me out from digest list.
If that checkbox wasn't ticked, it just said that I am not subscribed
to that list.


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Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A  AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728

I use GPG/INLINE, because some mailing list programs modify the headers
of messages and this way make signature.asc files (PGP/MIME)
unverifiable. Please remove lines about beginning and ending GPG
signature blocks in your replies to messages, which are sent by me.
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Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Indulekha
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 09:58:08AM +0100, Lisi wrote:
 On Thursday 03 May 2012 02:54:47 Indulekha wrote:
  Please kindly reference the notice at the bottom of every single
  email you get from this list
 
 It isn't at the end of Tina Braxton's email.  So she may be recieving none.
 

Thanks for pointing that out. 
Right after I'd sent that I noticed the server seems to be attaching 
the how to unsub sig only intermittently. It's Murphy's devilbat again!
Looks like this:
 /\   /\ 
   \   /
  ^  caveat utilitor 
'v-v'
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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Wed, 2 May 2012 15:52:05 -0700 (PDT)
tina braxton tinabrax...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Please take me off this list.  Thanks.

Perhaps you don't get this with digest mail, but most mail from the
list has this at the end:

To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact
listmas...@lists.debian.org 

To the list:
When a person wishes to unsubscribe, they aren't likely to be reading
responses on the list.   It is a lot more likely to get the job done if
one were to email the unsubscribe-wisher directly as I have done with
this post.

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 03 May 2012 15:52:30 Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
 It is a lot more likely to get the job done if
 one were to email the unsubscribe-wisher directly as I have done with
 this post.

And as I had done with mine.

Lisi


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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 17:22 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 Unsubscribing is easy for Debian mailing list and for mailman mailing
 lists, for normal mails and digest. It's always possible that there
 is a technical issue and that somebody really is unable to
 unsbscribe, but usually the folks are just idiots.
 
 When we subscribe, we already should be aware of the consequences, such
 as what happens with my data, if I unsubscribe.
 
 People today are careless idiots, they subscribe to crap like facebook
 and than they gang up and try to lynch innocent.
 
 Anyway. This is Debian mailing list. Hopefully employers google and
 don't hire adults who are unable to unsubscribe from mailing lists.
 
 This unsubscribe issue is a running gag.
 
 - Ralf

PS: This is the Thread I received Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012
#674, no problem this can happen.

Don't get me wrong. If intellectually disabled should have an issue with
unsubscribing, it would be ok, but usually academics, such as social
pedagogues tend to use the computer, similar to driving a car
blindfolded.

When a blind pen-pal confer a knighthood on me, I renounced it ;).


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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Unsubscribing is easy for Debian mailing list and for mailman mailing
lists, for normal mails and digest. It's always possible that there
is a technical issue and that somebody really is unable to
unsbscribe, but usually the folks are just idiots.

When we subscribe, we already should be aware of the consequences, such
as what happens with my data, if I unsubscribe.

People today are careless idiots, they subscribe to crap like facebook
and than they gang up and try to lynch innocent.

Anyway. This is Debian mailing list. Hopefully employers google and
don't hire adults who are unable to unsubscribe from mailing lists.

This unsubscribe issue is a running gag.

- Ralf


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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 03 May 2012 16:48:04 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 PS: This is the Thread I received Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012
 #674, no problem this can happen.

 Don't get me wrong. If intellectually disabled should have an issue with
 unsubscribing, it would be ok, but usually academics, such as social
 pedagogues tend to use the computer, similar to driving a car
 blindfolded.

 When a blind pen-pal confer a knighthood on me, I renounced it ;).

You are remarkably intolerant.  Have you never had a problem doing something 
other people find simple?  The answer, of course, is yes, whether you admit 
it or not.  We all have.  We are all mere human beings, and as such are 
neither infallible nor omniscient.

Lisi


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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Indulekha
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 05:14:52PM +0100, Lisi wrote:
 On Thursday 03 May 2012 16:48:04 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  PS: This is the Thread I received Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012
  #674, no problem this can happen.
 
  Don't get me wrong. If intellectually disabled should have an issue with
  unsubscribing, it would be ok, but usually academics, such as social
  pedagogues tend to use the computer, similar to driving a car
  blindfolded.
 
  When a blind pen-pal confer a knighthood on me, I renounced it ;).
 
 You are remarkably intolerant.  Have you never had a problem doing something 
 other people find simple?  The answer, of course, is yes, whether you admit 
 it or not.  We all have.  We are all mere human beings, and as such are 
 neither infallible nor omniscient.
 
 Lisi

Indeed. I tend to be a joker and a smart@ss, but in fact I've no room 
whatsoever to talk. Being rather visually impaired myself, there have been 
many times I got so worked up, thinking why the devil doesn't that function 
I need exist, only to find it finally on the fifth or sixth try, right under 
my nose, plain as day...

To Ralf: No knightbood for you! Those of us who are (nearly) blind need love 
too! 

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 09:52 -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
 To the list:
 When a person wishes to unsubscribe, they aren't likely to be reading
 responses on the list.   It is a lot more likely to get the job done if
 one were to email the unsubscribe-wisher directly as I have done with
 this post.

Good point :)!

I'm ashamed for my noise and everybody else should be ashamed too ;).

Regards,
Ralf



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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 17:14 +0100, Lisi wrote:

 You are remarkably intolerant.

Bullshit!

 We are all mere human beings

I'm a human being too. So if you call me intolerant for my fault, you're
intolerant yourself ;). Your claim isn't inherently consistent.

Reconsider your own words ;). Do you judge what is right and what is
wrong without fault?! A rhetorical question sister :p.

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Indulekha
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 06:45:37PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 17:14 +0100, Lisi wrote:
 
  You are remarkably intolerant.
 
 Bullshit!
 
  We are all mere human beings
 
 I'm a human being too. So if you call me intolerant for my fault, you're
 intolerant yourself ;). Your claim isn't inherently consistent.
 
 Reconsider your own words ;). Do you judge what is right and what is
 wrong without fault?! A rhetorical question sister :p.
 

You must be very young.

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Lisi
Forwarded to the list, where it belongs.

On Thursday 03 May 2012 18:45:32 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 18:37 +0100, Lisi wrote:
  On Thursday 03 May 2012 17:45:37 you wrote:
You are remarkably intolerant.
  
   Bullshit!
 
  I rest my case.

 Rephrased: You decided what failure is ok and what failure is bad ;p. So
 you reduce your own ethical statement to absurdity ;).

 Is every human allowed to be faulty or are just some humans you select
 are allowed to fail?

 2 Cents,
 Ralf

 PS: Pardon, English isn't my native language, I hope it#s possible to
 understand what I'm writing.



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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-03 at 19:56 +0100, Lisi wrote:
 Forwarded to the list, where it belongs.

It doesn't belong to the list.


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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-02 Thread tina braxton
Please take me off this list.  Thanks.



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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 3:54 AM
Subject: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674
  
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debian-user-digest Digest                Volume 2012 : Issue 674

Today's Topics:
  Re: changing window managers in debi  [ Dan Hitt dan.h...@gmail.com ]
  Re: eglibc fails to build from sourc  [ Christofer C. Bell christofer.c. ]
  Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not worki  [ Chris Bannister cbannister@slingsh ]
  Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not worki  [ Chris Bannister cbannister@slingsh ]
  Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. E  [ Han Soo Chang hansoo7...@gmail.com ]
  Re: changing window managers in debi  [ =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Gr=F6nqvist?=  ]
  Re: eglibc fails to build from sourc  [ Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de ]
  Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfre  [ =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Gr=F6nqvist?=  ]
  Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing u  [ Chris Bannister cbannister@slingsh ]
  Re: SOLVED Re: genisoimage and burni  [ Chris Bannister cbannister@slingsh ]
  Re: genisoimage and truncating of fi  [ Chris Bannister cbannister@slingsh ]
  Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfre  [ Han Soo Chang hansoo7...@gmail.com ]
  Re: genisoimage and truncating of fi  [ Kushal Kumaran kushal.kumaran+debi ]
  Re: genisoimage and truncating of fi  [ keith km3...@gmail.com ]
  Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfre  [ Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net ]
  Re: Shorewall 4.5.2.2 startup questi  [ Andrei POPESCU andreimpopescu@gmai ]
  Re: iptables service with debian      [ Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com ]
  Re: iptables service with debian      [ Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com ]
This is a sort of subquery to the question of how to change window
managers.  (And thanks again Johan, Camaleón, and Indulekha for your
earlier help.)

So the question is: supposing you compile a window manager yourself,
so that it does not come from the packaging system.

What is the standard best way of setting this new window manager as yours?

It certainly won't exist in any of the lists on the login page, since
debian could not know about it.

So, i googled around, and there's this page
    http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/doc/debian/ch-X.html
which recommends just making an executable file
    /home/USER/.xsession
and putting in a sequence of commands there---which
could just be the path to your window manager.

I tried this, and . . . . it works.

But i feel a little uneasy about this, like this is not a best practice,
or some newer release of debian may break it.

(Note that the window manager i built is WindowMaker 0.95.2 which
is a few revisions ahead of the squeeze version.  And although it
certainly works, and i can launch applications, it doesn't look at all
like the squeeze version.  For example, it has a solid light purple
background, instead of the debian swirls.)

Thanks in advance for any info.

dan
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:01 PM, bibop554 - bibop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I try to build eglibc from source but it fails. I'm on Debian squeeze 6.0.3
 I downloaded [eglibc_2.11.3.orig.tar.gz] and [eglibc_2.11.3-2.diff.gz]
 from http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libc6

Did you install the build dependencies?

$ apt-get build-dep eglibc

 Not sure if i made an error somewhere or if it is a bug.
 Any help would be appreciated. Feel free to ask more information

From the apt-get man page:

build-dep causes apt-get to install/remove packages in an attempt to
satisfy the build dependencies for a source package.

Try again after doing that and see what happens.

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On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 07:07:30PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 So please help the OP to get it working. It's working for some of you,
 so if it isn't working for others, they spread FUD?

It is, when you say debian have dropped support for PS/2 keyboards and
mice.

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On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 04:27:08PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 FWIW
 Not working: Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A PS/2 Compatible

What testing have you done?
i.e. Does it work in another computer? Does another type of PS/2 mouse
work in the problem computer?

Does gpm work in console mode:
    a) With problem mouse?
    b) With good mouse?

Once you have some idea where the problem is, then you can start fine
tuning your fault finding.

By using techniques like those, more often than not, you can solve the
problem yourself. 

-- 
Religion is excellent stuff for keeping common people quiet.
   -- Napoleon Bonaparte
Hi,

I recently installed debian squeeze, but I can't see youtube videos on
iceweasel.

$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

Above command ends with a following error message. (My sources.list has non-free
included)

ERROR: wget failed to download
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2012 #674

2012-05-02 Thread Indulekha
On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 03:52:05PM -0700, tina braxton wrote:
Please take me off this list.  Thanks.
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I'm sure most of us would be happy to do that for you if we could.
Please kindly reference the notice at the bottom of every single 
email you get from this list for the top secret instructions which 
will grant you the awesome power to take yourself off the list, as 
if by magic. Thanks!

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