Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur")
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Thomas Schmitt Sent: Friday, 10 August 2018 10:47 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur") Hi, I really really want to abstain from that thread. So a new one: Gene Heskett wrotei in 'mailing list vs "the futur"': > [...] NNTP [...] > To fully support it needs 2000 times the bandwidth of an email server. But not because of the transport protocoli or message format. NNTP belongs to the same breed of reasonably concise protocols as the mail protocols POP3 and SMTP. The message formats too are very similar: A list of header lines and a message body. Of course, if it is about newsgroups with videos or many large pictures, you get clients sucking data for hours. But a news server which imposes the same restrictions as most mailing list servers would not cause more traffic or storage need. While googling for debian-user as newsgroup i found https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg00735.html where Miles Fidelman points to nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user i.e. newsgroup linux.debian.user which should be on most news servers (because it is of modest size). Newest message on the server which i can use: 638790 from : Gene Heskett date : Fri, 10 Aug 2018 14:10:01 +0200 size : 2724 bytes in 60 lines subject: Re: mailing list vs "the futur" My mail box seems to be about half an hour ahead of the news server. Have a nice day :) Thomas
Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur")
Dan Purgert wrote: > Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) wrote: >> Dan Purgert writes: >>> Yeah, well, least it's on eternal-september (my NNTP provider). I doubt >>> they're the most active, but the service is free, and good enough for my >>> tastes. yes! i'm glad there are people who are willing to do such things. >> Also i like NNTP service! For now i'm on Gmane, thanks^^^ > > Now that you meantion it, I might've needed to go through gmane for the > debian lists. yes, that's what i do for some, not sure what others are available if i were to go through eternal-september (which is for the more general newsgroups i read/write to). songbird
Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur")
Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙) wrote: > Dan Purgert writes: >> Yeah, well, least it's on eternal-september (my NNTP provider). I doubt >> they're the most active, but the service is free, and good enough for my >> tastes. > > Also i like NNTP service! For now i'm on Gmane, thanks^^^ Now that you meantion it, I might've needed to go through gmane for the debian lists. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur")
Dan Purgert writes: > Thomas Schmitt wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I really really want to abstain from that thread. So a new one: >> >> Gene Heskett wrotei in 'mailing list vs "the futur"': >>> [...] NNTP [...] >>> To fully support it needs 2000 times the bandwidth of an email server. >> >> But not because of the transport protocoli or message format. NNTP belongs >> to the same breed of reasonably concise protocols as the mail protocols >> POP3 and SMTP. The message formats too are very similar: A list of header >> lines and a message body. >> >> [...] >> >> linux.debian.user >> >> which should be on most news servers (because it is of modest size). > > Yeah, well, least it's on eternal-september (my NNTP provider). I doubt > they're the most active, but the service is free, and good enough for my > tastes. Also i like NNTP service! For now i'm on Gmane, thanks^^^ -- ^고맙습니다 _地平天成_ 감사합니다_^))//
Re: debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur")
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > I really really want to abstain from that thread. So a new one: > > Gene Heskett wrotei in 'mailing list vs "the futur"': >> [...] NNTP [...] >> To fully support it needs 2000 times the bandwidth of an email server. > > But not because of the transport protocoli or message format. NNTP belongs > to the same breed of reasonably concise protocols as the mail protocols > POP3 and SMTP. The message formats too are very similar: A list of header > lines and a message body. > > [...] > > linux.debian.user > > which should be on most news servers (because it is of modest size). Yeah, well, least it's on eternal-september (my NNTP provider). I doubt they're the most active, but the service is free, and good enough for my tastes. -- |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947 |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: 05CA 9A50 3F2E 1335 4DC5 4AEE 8E11 DDF3 1279 A281
debian-user over NNTP: linux.debian.user (was mailing list vs "the futur")
Hi, I really really want to abstain from that thread. So a new one: Gene Heskett wrotei in 'mailing list vs "the futur"': > [...] NNTP [...] > To fully support it needs 2000 times the bandwidth of an email server. But not because of the transport protocoli or message format. NNTP belongs to the same breed of reasonably concise protocols as the mail protocols POP3 and SMTP. The message formats too are very similar: A list of header lines and a message body. Of course, if it is about newsgroups with videos or many large pictures, you get clients sucking data for hours. But a news server which imposes the same restrictions as most mailing list servers would not cause more traffic or storage need. While googling for debian-user as newsgroup i found https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/10/msg00735.html where Miles Fidelman points to nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user i.e. newsgroup linux.debian.user which should be on most news servers (because it is of modest size). Newest message on the server which i can use: 638790 from : Gene Heskett date : Fri, 10 Aug 2018 14:10:01 +0200 size : 2724 bytes in 60 lines subject: Re: mailing list vs "the futur" My mail box seems to be about half an hour ahead of the news server. Have a nice day :) Thomas
