Re: dependency tree on installed packages
On Mi, 20 iun 12, 20:55:09, Artifex Maximus wrote: I think the continuous upgrade process from the early stage of Wheezy left some unneeded packages. This is normal as I started early just want to clean out my system. Maybe I am wrong on base idea but would like to check and look for some utility to make it easier. I there is no such utility I will compare line-by-line as last resort. Not what your looking for, but my way of cleaning up is to use aptitude's interactive mode and mark all packages automatically installed. Then I press 'g' once (this is important), go through the list of packages to be removed and use '+' to mark them to be kept and manually installed. I'm doing at least two or three passes, first time marking just packages that are very important to me and then consecutive passes marking packages less important. It's easier if I just 'q' after each pass and press 'g' again, to get a shorter list. Package relations can be seen in aptitude with 'r' (reverse dependencies) and 'd' (dependencies). See also debtree. Hope this helps, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
dependency tree on installed packages
Hello! My Wheezy was installed on a very early stage any I would like to compare packages against a fresh installation to see what is different or changed. Probably nothing but would like to verify. Therefore I would like to make a dependency tree (graph) on installed packages under Wheezy for both (my older and a fresh) installation. On the two dependency trees I am able to find differences between them because packages by packages compare is not enough I think. I have made some google and found that debtree and apt-cache might do that. But do not. Or not exactly what I would like. debtree needs a package name for graph but I need all my installed packages (no --all or asterisk parameter) not just some and apt-cache makes tree from all packages Debian has even I specify the parameter --installed. I am stuck. Any other idea for what I would like to do? Script or application or just hint. Anything. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvE2daRv1rmGy3POhCJ4t5_LU=H3pzO+_nOWLQ=36rz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
apt-cache dump | grep Package: apt-cache dump | grep Version: Those will get 2 separate lists of installed software names versions. Maybe that will get what you want in a roundabout way. :-) -- Sent from FOSS (Free Open Source Software) Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAL36VG=ozqno5pu_kvhvsctcrwfvp6cnjvcgtybujz5wv5q...@mail.gmail.com
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Keith McKenzie km3...@gmail.com wrote: apt-cache dump | grep Package: apt-cache dump | grep Version: Those will get 2 separate lists of installed software names versions. Maybe that will get what you want in a roundabout way. :-) Thank you. Unfortunately it gives all Debian packages not just installed. # apt-cache dump | grep Package: | wc -l 47121 # apt-cache --installed dump | grep Package: | wc -l 47121 # dpkg --list | wc -l 2481 Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvfby7egf62o+f3sp2wkrjcoouonugrq1yznmuccm+w...@mail.gmail.com
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:08:39PM +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: Hello! My Wheezy was installed on a very early stage any I would like to compare packages against a fresh installation to see what is different or changed. Probably nothing but would like to verify. Therefore I would like to make a dependency tree (graph) on installed packages under Wheezy for both (my older and a fresh) installation. On the two dependency trees I am able to find differences between them because packages by packages compare is not enough I think. I have made some google and found that debtree and apt-cache might do that. But do not. Or not exactly what I would like. debtree needs a package name for graph but I need all my installed packages (no --all or asterisk parameter) not just some and apt-cache makes tree from all packages Debian has even I specify the parameter --installed. I am stuck. It looks like apt-cache --installed depends . should do what you want. If it's doing what you want, but for all packages, then that seems like a bug to me (the --installed parameter says Limit the output of depends and rdepends to packages which are currently installed). Note that --installed only works with 'depends' and 'rdepends'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120620124915.gb10...@darac.org.uk
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
Artifex Maximus [2012-06-20 12:08:39 +0200] wrote: debtree needs a package name for graph but I need all my installed packages (no --all or asterisk parameter) not just some and apt-cache makes tree from all packages Debian has even I specify the parameter --installed. I am stuck. I may have misunderstood what you are asking but maybe this: aptitude -F%p search '~i' -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87lijidu3h@mithlond.arda
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
Hello Artifex, Artifex Maximus artife...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Keith McKenzie km3...@gmail.com wrote: Those will get 2 separate lists of installed software names versions. # dpkg --list | wc -l 2481 Why don’t you use the output of dpkg -l? Also check man 1 dpkg-query. Best regards, Claudius -- A diplomatic husband said to his wife, How do you expect me to remember your birthday when you never look any older? http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:08:39PM +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: Hello! My Wheezy was installed on a very early stage any I would like to compare packages against a fresh installation to see what is different or changed. Probably nothing but would like to verify. Therefore I would like to make a dependency tree (graph) on installed packages under Wheezy for both (my older and a fresh) installation. On the two dependency trees I am able to find differences between them because packages by packages compare is not enough I think. I have made some google and found that debtree and apt-cache might do that. But do not. Or not exactly what I would like. debtree needs a package name for graph but I need all my installed packages (no --all or asterisk parameter) not just some and apt-cache makes tree from all packages Debian has even I specify the parameter --installed. I am stuck. It looks like apt-cache --installed depends . should do what you want. If it's doing what you want, but for all packages, then that seems like a bug to me (the --installed parameter says Limit the output of depends and rdepends to packages which are currently installed). Note that --installed only works with 'depends' and 'rdepends'. This depends output looks very close to what I would like but --installed does not works with depends for me even man page says so. # dpkg --list | grep 0ad # apt-cache --installed depends . | grep 0ad 0ad 0ad-data 0ad-dbg # apt-cache --installed depends . | egrep -v '^ ' | wc -l 47121 Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvewqkep50j4qjhom71my-7x5mhk6wfjjyzmsljbqwp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Teemu Likonen tliko...@iki.fi wrote: Artifex Maximus [2012-06-20 12:08:39 +0200] wrote: debtree needs a package name for graph but I need all my installed packages (no --all or asterisk parameter) not just some and apt-cache makes tree from all packages Debian has even I specify the parameter --installed. I am stuck. I may have misunderstood what you are asking but maybe this: aptitude -F%p search '~i' Thanks but not really what I want. Its output is close to dpkg --list and nothing about dependency which I would like. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvehyro-pkqnxmmjuopnqo_d7chn83ymg5fyxcrjyxj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
Hello, On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Claudius Hubig debian_1...@chubig.net wrote: Hello Artifex, Artifex Maximus artife...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Keith McKenzie km3...@gmail.com wrote: Those will get 2 separate lists of installed software names versions. # dpkg --list | wc -l 2481 Why don’t you use the output of dpkg -l? Also check man 1 dpkg-query. Thank you. dpkg -l writes out all installed packages but not the relations between them. I did similar comparison between systems but seeing the differences in a tree makes this process easier because I can cut leafs if I know there is related or not to my later installation. If I compare packages line-by-line without any relation I do not know that any extra or missing packages is related to other packages or might standalone packages. I think the continuous upgrade process from the early stage of Wheezy left some unneeded packages. This is normal as I started early just want to clean out my system. Maybe I am wrong on base idea but would like to check and look for some utility to make it easier. I there is no such utility I will compare line-by-line as last resort. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvEF34-EcG-jPck3J-hNrNrmDj2MW+N2Ro=veq4hrqy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
Hello Artifex, Artifex Maximus artife...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. dpkg -l writes out all installed packages but not the relations between them. I did similar comparison between systems but seeing the differences in a tree makes this process easier because I can cut leafs if I know there is related or not to my later installation. If I compare packages line-by-line without any relation I do not know that any extra or missing packages is related to other packages or might standalone packages. I was implying to feed this output into higher level tools to generate dependency graphs for you. I think the continuous upgrade process from the early stage of Wheezy left some unneeded packages. This is normal as I started early just want to clean out my system. Maybe I am wrong on base idea but would like to check and look for some utility to make it easier. I there is no such utility I will compare line-by-line as last resort. If you simply want to clean out your system, have a look at deborphan. Best regards, Claudius -- I am NOT a kludge! I am a computer! -- tts http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
