Re: determining which apps have entries in the applications menu in xfce
On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 21:54:48 -0700 Dan Hittwrote: > > I did have trouble with Settings > Main Menu my version of xfce > doesn't seem to have that. > The Settings submeu jumps from Keyboard to MIME Type Editor, and i > don't see an xfce icon i can click on. (I also tried the Settings > Manager, but similarly couldn't find anything.) My version of xfce is > version 4.12. > > It sounds like it would be very useful to get to Settings > Main > Menu, though. > That would be alacarte, a Gnome program but without many dependencies. -- Joe
Re: determining which apps have entries in the applications menu in xfce
Thanks everybody for all the suggestions. Whisker manager worked for me (thanks Darac), but the other suggestions were also interesting and useful. I did have trouble with Settings > Main Menu my version of xfce doesn't seem to have that. The Settings submeu jumps from Keyboard to MIME Type Editor, and i don't see an xfce icon i can click on. (I also tried the Settings Manager, but similarly couldn't find anything.) My version of xfce is version 4.12. It sounds like it would be very useful to get to Settings > Main Menu, though. (Ans along the way i discovered a nice little application showing a world map with at least some of the countries identified in their native scripts.) Sure appreciate everybody's help!!! :) dan On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Charlie Kravetzwrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 22:12:55 -0700 > Dan Hitt wrote: > >>I'm using a pretty vanilla debian 9 with xfce. >> >>There's an Applications menu in the upper left which has lots and lots >>of applications listed under multiple submenus. >> >>There's a program that i have on my system whose name i cannot find in >>the Applications menu. >> >>However, that might just be because i conducted a defective search. >> >>So i'm wondering if there's a systematic way to determine if the >>program is in the menu. (Presumably it is a matter of looking in >>/usr/bin or something like that, although that cannot be the complete >>solution as there are a few thousand programs in /usr/bin, and they >>cannot all fit in the menu. So i suspect there's a list somewhere . . >>. ) >> >>TIA for any clues on this, >> >>dan >> > > Xfce pulls the menu from the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications > and ~/.local/share/applications . > > > > - -- > Charlie Kravetz > Linux Registered User Number 425914 > [http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html] > Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEG5QK93YKrQMH22ZTiq6LjqbJ0IAFAlmB2ZwACgkQiq6LjqbJ > 0ICv3Af9HZCUb37KGTogoS6uvY/PhyzHH7L/Db1bs/aqMFEWdi9ljo+LCnoMuwSW > Zdhu5CTSOO1TWq8mQs+x/Nds3AwzoxmnS+TS8OrWAg87xFzaKfRMGmddzvHgcODc > JuiniR/zEZIVxzLHZFklF+GJ3xyEEpLQ/8gE6CDX5xef81nDlbg5ZgrhXJTUDBM/ > E1v9m40UTGm7z3gEm0eP/o9zGRzH0WDf8RRIN4G6MeIzvcrYE8x5e/xuphkptMxa > A7FqkX9/TTQPQL8OapybRBkCz2e4jRDXCrouT5OK35HCGy3DgYgEubGOk5lpCyEn > pP7SC0wd38di33+8BJQlZS53rQbB4g== > =c4+Y > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: determining which apps have entries in the applications menu in xfce
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 22:12:55 -0700 Dan Hittwrote: >I'm using a pretty vanilla debian 9 with xfce. > >There's an Applications menu in the upper left which has lots and lots >of applications listed under multiple submenus. > >There's a program that i have on my system whose name i cannot find in >the Applications menu. > >However, that might just be because i conducted a defective search. > >So i'm wondering if there's a systematic way to determine if the >program is in the menu. (Presumably it is a matter of looking in >/usr/bin or something like that, although that cannot be the complete >solution as there are a few thousand programs in /usr/bin, and they >cannot all fit in the menu. So i suspect there's a list somewhere . . >. ) > >TIA for any clues on this, > >dan > Xfce pulls the menu from the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications . - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://linuxcounter.net/user/425914.html] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEG5QK93YKrQMH22ZTiq6LjqbJ0IAFAlmB2ZwACgkQiq6LjqbJ 0ICv3Af9HZCUb37KGTogoS6uvY/PhyzHH7L/Db1bs/aqMFEWdi9ljo+LCnoMuwSW Zdhu5CTSOO1TWq8mQs+x/Nds3AwzoxmnS+TS8OrWAg87xFzaKfRMGmddzvHgcODc JuiniR/zEZIVxzLHZFklF+GJ3xyEEpLQ/8gE6CDX5xef81nDlbg5ZgrhXJTUDBM/ E1v9m40UTGm7z3gEm0eP/o9zGRzH0WDf8RRIN4G6MeIzvcrYE8x5e/xuphkptMxa A7FqkX9/TTQPQL8OapybRBkCz2e4jRDXCrouT5OK35HCGy3DgYgEubGOk5lpCyEn pP7SC0wd38di33+8BJQlZS53rQbB4g== =c4+Y -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: determining which apps have entries in the applications menu in xfce
On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 10:12:55PM -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: I'm using a pretty vanilla debian 9 with xfce. There's an Applications menu in the upper left which has lots and lots of applications listed under multiple submenus. There's a program that i have on my system whose name i cannot find in the Applications menu. However, that might just be because i conducted a defective search. So i'm wondering if there's a systematic way to determine if the program is in the menu. (Presumably it is a matter of looking in /usr/bin or something like that, although that cannot be the complete solution as there are a few thousand programs in /usr/bin, and they cannot all fit in the menu. So i suspect there's a list somewhere . . . ) TIA for any clues on this, Just as an alternative solution, you might find the XFCE Whisker Menu more user-friendly. Especially if you're used to the Windows 7-style start menu. If you install 'xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin', you can then right-click on a panel, select "Add to Panel" and choose the Whisker Menu. Click the button and you should see a panel with two panes - one side is a list of applications, the other side is a tree of folders. All familiar so far. At the bottom of the panel, though, is a search box. If you type a few characters of the name of the application in there, you should see matching entries display in the pane above. dan -- For more information, please reread. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: determining which apps have entries in the applications menu in xfce
On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 22:12:55 -0700 Dan Hittwrote: > I'm using a pretty vanilla debian 9 with xfce. > > There's an Applications menu in the upper left which has lots and lots > of applications listed under multiple submenus. > > There's a program that i have on my system whose name i cannot find in > the Applications menu. > > However, that might just be because i conducted a defective search. > > So i'm wondering if there's a systematic way to determine if the > program is in the menu. (Presumably it is a matter of looking in > /usr/bin or something like that, although that cannot be the complete > solution as there are a few thousand programs in /usr/bin, and they > cannot all fit in the menu. So i suspect there's a list somewhere . . > . ) > > TIA for any clues on this, > > dan > Before it gets too messy, and with menus it does... a maze of twisty little XML files, none of which have any effect... On the menu, go to Settings, then Main Menu. Explore the structure and you might find your program, without a tick to enable it. I don't know why this happens, but it does occasionally. You'll almost certainly find other things you didn't know were there. If not... click on the Xfce at the top left and look for 'Other' in the right pane. If it is there, tick it, close out the menu then explore the new Other (I'm assuming it is not there now or you would probably have mentioned it). I won't guarantee that every binary on the system is listed here, but it must be a large percentage, there will certainly be things here which aren't anywhere else in the menu. Whether your program is already in the menu or not, you can add it, but first you need to know where it is. At a command prompt, type 'which ' with your program name, whereby you should see the full path to the program binary. Back in Settings->Main Menu, choose an appropriate location, then click 'New Item'. Give it a descriptive name and the start command i.e. the path to the binary plus any parameters you want. You can run scripts like this, or wrappers to the normal startup commands for programs, but with extra parameters to control the startup. -- Joe
Re: determining which apps have entries in the applications menu in xfce
On 08/02/2017 02:12 PM, Dan Hitt wrote: > There's a program that i have on my system whose name i cannot find in > the Applications menu. > > However, that might just be because i conducted a defective search. > > So i'm wondering if there's a systematic way to determine if the > program is in the menu. (Presumably it is a matter of looking in > /usr/bin or something like that, although that cannot be the complete > solution as there are a few thousand programs in /usr/bin, and they > cannot all fit in the menu. So i suspect there's a list somewhere . . > . ) The applications list is from .desktop files in various locations in your system, so searching for .desktop files in the packages (with apt-file or dpkg) should work. Try something like 'dpkg -L $package | grep desktop' or 'apt-file search -F $package | grep desktop'. Some applications also generate .desktop files and install themselves in $HOME/.local/share/applications, so look in there as well. Hope it helps.
determining which apps have entries in the applications menu in xfce
I'm using a pretty vanilla debian 9 with xfce. There's an Applications menu in the upper left which has lots and lots of applications listed under multiple submenus. There's a program that i have on my system whose name i cannot find in the Applications menu. However, that might just be because i conducted a defective search. So i'm wondering if there's a systematic way to determine if the program is in the menu. (Presumably it is a matter of looking in /usr/bin or something like that, although that cannot be the complete solution as there are a few thousand programs in /usr/bin, and they cannot all fit in the menu. So i suspect there's a list somewhere . . . ) TIA for any clues on this, dan