Re: disk group (was ... Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?)

2014-11-26 Thread Rick Macdonald

On 26/11/14 04:36 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:


I vaguely remember reading somewhere (may have been on this list) that
putting anybody in the disk group is a big no no, I think it was to do
with security.


*It is* (shoot foot material). So is setting ntfs-3g setuid. Which is
another practise used for what the OP wanted to achieve - in the way he
wanted to do it.
Like sudo no password it's a common practise - in hindsight I should
have refused to help with that option (I did suggest udev) - and there
are other ways.


Whether I'm misremembering or not it would be nice to get it cleared up.


You didn't misremember it - unfettered access to raw disks is not good
practise.

I was wrong. Following those instructions could have caused the OP to
inadvertently break Windows.



Thanks, I've removed myself from the disk group.

Rick


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Re: disk group (was ... Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?)

2014-11-26 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 26/11/14 21:27, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 02:46:24PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>
>> In which case I'd "recommend":-
>> *1.* uncommenting the user_allow_other line in /etc/fuse.conf
>>
>> *2.* changing the fstab line to:-
>> LABEL=WinBackup /media/WinBackup ntfs-3g
>> uid=1000,gid=1000,permissions,auto,noatime 0 0
>>
>> *3.* check that you are a member of the "disk" group (as a "user":-
>> groups |grep disk
>> if you aren't, become one (as "root")[*1]:-
>> gpasswd -a $YourUsername disk
>>
>> [*1] "groups" won't show your changed group membership until after
>> you've logged out, and logged back in. You can use the following if you
>> need to double-check:-
>> grep disk /etc/group
> 
> I vaguely remember reading somewhere (may have been on this list) that
> putting anybody in the disk group is a big no no, I think it was to do
> with security.


*It is* (shoot foot material). So is setting ntfs-3g setuid. Which is
another practise used for what the OP wanted to achieve - in the way he
wanted to do it.
Like sudo no password it's a common practise - in hindsight I should
have refused to help with that option (I did suggest udev) - and there
are other ways.

> 
> Whether I'm misremembering or not it would be nice to get it cleared up.


You didn't misremember it - unfettered access to raw disks is not good
practise.

I was wrong. Following those instructions could have caused the OP to
inadvertently break Windows.


Kind regards


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disk group (was ... Re: How to override fuse args to ntfs-3g to set permissions?)

2014-11-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 02:46:24PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> 
> In which case I'd "recommend":-
> *1.* uncommenting the user_allow_other line in /etc/fuse.conf
> 
> *2.* changing the fstab line to:-
> LABEL=WinBackup /media/WinBackup ntfs-3g
> uid=1000,gid=1000,permissions,auto,noatime 0 0
> 
> *3.* check that you are a member of the "disk" group (as a "user":-
> groups |grep disk
> if you aren't, become one (as "root")[*1]:-
> gpasswd -a $YourUsername disk
> 
> [*1] "groups" won't show your changed group membership until after
> you've logged out, and logged back in. You can use the following if you
> need to double-check:-
> grep disk /etc/group

I vaguely remember reading somewhere (may have been on this list) that
putting anybody in the disk group is a big no no, I think it was to do
with security.

Whether I'm misremembering or not it would be nice to get it cleared up. 

-- 
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who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X


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