Help me get dselect through this firewall

1998-07-09 Thread pedro . i . sanchez
Hello,

In order to update my system I want dselect to ftp
into one of the debian mirrors. The problem is that
the interface to our firewall is kind of unique. It goes like this:

local_host% ftp firewall
Name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  local_userid
Password: remote_password
Account: local_password

In answering Name I have to type two things in the same line. Is there some 
place where the login procedure to the firewall can be customized? (Note, I 
tried apt also with no success :(

Thank you,

Pedro I. Sanchez




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Re: dselect through a firewall?

1997-07-18 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Shaya Potter wrote:

 Just remember, many people can use dpkg-ftp through a firewall if their
 proxy is a 2 step procedure+password.  All you do is tell dselect to ftp
 to the firewall.  Then set it to respond with [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 and then when the password is asked, use [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I used this
 method for a while when I was behind a TIS fwtk based firewall, and then
 behind Gaunlet, which behaved the same.

Wish I knew that back when I was behind the thing : Anyhow, if I have the
time I might add an option for those kind of firewalls.. FTP over
HTTP-Proxy should be a last resort kind of thing anyhow..

BTW, anyone have Debain mirrored that can be accessed with a web server?

Jason


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Re: dselect through a firewall?

1997-07-18 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas


On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

 
 Wish I knew that back when I was behind the thing : Anyhow, if I have the
 time I might add an option for those kind of firewalls.. 

I know in my case (ANS Interlock) it didn't work.  And it wasn't for lack
of trying let me tell you!  It asks for a username and
password, and then you have to type quote site sitename and then the
remote sites username and password if any. 


 FTP over
 HTTP-Proxy should be a last resort kind of thing anyhow..
 

Perhaps the best way would just be to integrate Deity with expect or some
such scripting language so people with these oddball setups can work it
out for themselves.

 BTW, anyone have Debain mirrored that can be accessed with a web server?
 

I do.  But it's behind a firewall. :-(

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Re: dselect through a firewall?

1997-07-18 Thread Shaya Potter
On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:

 
 
 On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
 
  
  Wish I knew that back when I was behind the thing : Anyhow, if I have the
  time I might add an option for those kind of firewalls.. 
 
 I know in my case (ANS Interlock) it didn't work.  And it wasn't for lack
 of trying let me tell you!  It asks for a username and
 password, and then you have to type quote site sitename and then the
 remote sites username and password if any. 

That's because the firewall made you authenticate to it first. 
Having dpkg-ftp know how to deal with those firewalls would be a plus, but
then certain files better have theirs bits set right, because your
password is going to be in one of them.  It's hard to make things like
that totally automatic.

Shaya


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Re: dselect through a firewall?

1997-07-18 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

:
:On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Shaya Potter wrote:
:
: Just remember, many people can use dpkg-ftp through a firewall if their
: proxy is a 2 step procedure+password.  All you do is tell dselect to ftp
: to the firewall.  Then set it to respond with [EMAIL PROTECTED],
: and then when the password is asked, use [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I used this
: method for a while when I was behind a TIS fwtk based firewall, and then
: behind Gaunlet, which behaved the same.
:
:Wish I knew that back when I was behind the thing : Anyhow, if I have the
:time I might add an option for those kind of firewalls.. FTP over
:HTTP-Proxy should be a last resort kind of thing anyhow..
:
:BTW, anyone have Debain mirrored that can be accessed with a web server?
:
:Jason
:
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By with a web server do you mean through a URL such as
http://www.cfni.com/ftp/debian/; ? If so, there ya go.

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Re:Re: dselect through a firewall?

1997-07-18 Thread Linh Dang
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 spotter Just remember, many people can use dpkg-ftp through a firewall if
 spotter their proxy is a 2 step procedure+password.  All you do is tell
 spotter dselect to ftp to the firewall.  Then set it to respond with

The proxy of my company is Raptor style, 3-steps user+passwd+account. I've had
to modify dselect's ftp scripts (setup, update, install) to get throught the
firewalls. Perl5's Net::FTP can pass throught most of the firewalls.

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Re: dselect through a firewall?

1997-07-17 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas


On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Christopher Ray Martin wrote:

 
 I'm trying to get my girlfriend's Debian machine updated to 1.3 but so far
 its been a real pain because she is behind a corporate firewall and I have
 to manually ftp the files. Is there any way to configure deselect to go
 through the firewall? 
 

When I first started with Debian many moons ago, I had the same problem.
My only fast net access was at work behind a formidable firewall. After
tediously working my way through a couple of hundred packages (Thank God
it wasn't the 1000+ of today!)  I thought there had to be a better way.
So I wrote an http method for dselect.  I actually used lynx to do the
transfer because you can specify a proxy configuration in its setup.

It did work but it wasn't very polished.  With Deity on its way and CDs
going for as little as $3.99, there is probably not much point but if
people think it could be useful, I don't mind starting work on it again.

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Re: dselect through a firewall?

1997-07-17 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

 It did work but it wasn't very polished.  With Deity on its way and CDs
 going for as little as $3.99, there is probably not much point but if

I'm going to try to make sure that deity will support a FTP over
HTTP-Proxy and HTTP over HTTP-Proxy methods, I am usualy behind such a
firewall myself..

Jaosn


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Re: dselect through a firewall?

1997-07-17 Thread Shaya Potter
On Wed, 16 Jul 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

 
  It did work but it wasn't very polished.  With Deity on its way and CDs
  going for as little as $3.99, there is probably not much point but if
 
 I'm going to try to make sure that deity will support a FTP over
 HTTP-Proxy and HTTP over HTTP-Proxy methods, I am usualy behind such a
 firewall myself..
 

Just remember, many people can use dpkg-ftp through a firewall if their
proxy is a 2 step procedure+password.  All you do is tell dselect to ftp
to the firewall.  Then set it to respond with [EMAIL PROTECTED],
and then when the password is asked, use [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I used this
method for a while when I was behind a TIS fwtk based firewall, and then
behind Gaunlet, which behaved the same.

Shaya


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Re: dselect through a firewall?

1997-07-17 Thread Brian White
 I'm trying to get my girlfriend's Debian machine updated to 1.3 but so far
 its been a real pain because she is behind a corporate firewall and I have
 to manually ftp the files. Is there any way to configure deselect to go
 through the firewall?

Dftp was able to go through firewalls with FTP proxies.  I haven't personally
used that code in well over a year, but it's probably still functional.

  Brian
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dselect through a firewall?

1997-07-15 Thread Christopher Ray Martin

I'm trying to get my girlfriend's Debian machine updated to 1.3 but so far
its been a real pain because she is behind a corporate firewall and I have
to manually ftp the files. Is there any way to configure deselect to go
through the firewall? 

in case this helps, netscape is setup for proxy like:

gate.machine  port 80

and you can ftp using

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

and then when it asks for username you type

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

she doesn't have direct access to any outside machine.

anyone have any ideas?

Thanks, 
chris.


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Re: dselect through a firewall?

1997-07-15 Thread Shaya Potter
On Tue, 15 Jul 1997, Christopher Ray Martin wrote:

 
 I'm trying to get my girlfriend's Debian machine updated to 1.3 but so far
 its been a real pain because she is behind a corporate firewall and I have
 to manually ftp the files. Is there any way to configure deselect to go
 through the firewall? 
 
 in case this helps, netscape is setup for proxy like:
 
 gate.machine  port 80
 
 and you can ftp using
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 and then when it asks for username you type
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

This seems like a proxy type firewall of the TIS-fwtk/gauntlet variety.
When I was using that firewall.  I set up the machine I was ftp'ing to in
dselect as the firewall.  I set the username to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
and the password as [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You then set up the directories as
normal.

Did this make sense, sorry I'm in a rush.

Shaya


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