Re: dual boot debian & Windoze, need advice
On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 14:16:19 -0700, Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The Windoze HD came with the computer in the original purchase, and > was pre-loaded. It was/is master. And the Linux HD is, currently, also > master. Of course one would have to change. ..to fool bios and wintendo:" disk=/dev/sda bios=0x80 disk=/dev/hda bios=0x81 " ...details in 'man lilo.conf ' -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dual boot debian & Windoze, need advice
On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:06:38 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > I want to dual boot an i686 machine with Debian Sarge and Windoze. My > situation is somewhat special, so the directions that I find when I > google the topic do not really apply IMHO. > > The i686 computer already has Sarge installed on a 60G HD, and Windoze > XP installed on a 30G HD that is sitting inside the case. But the > Windoze HD is currently disconnected from both the ribbon cable and > the power cable. > > I want to add an appropriate stanza to lilo.conf and connect cables to > get dual boot with a minimum of reinstalling. I would like to have the > 60G HD be hda under Linux, and the 30G HD be C: under Windoze. I would > like to use lilo. > > My understanding is that bios boot code on an i686 looks at the MBR of > the master drive on the first IDE channel to find the 2nd stage boot > program, and that lilo overwrites this record. > > If I do the cabling so that Windoze HD is the slave drive, lilo should > not touch the MBR of the Windoze HD. Correct? > > So what do I put in the Windoze stanza of lilo.conf to make boot program > load Windoze? And is there a reasonable hope that Windoze can be made to > think that the slave drive is C:? Or will it do this automatically? > > Or, am I crazy to be contemplating this? > > TIA You don't say which version of Windows you are using, or whether the Windows drive was the primary drive when Windows was installed. I'm running multi-boot Linux and Windows XP with Windows XP on the first partition in the first slave drive (i.e. what would be /dev/hdb to Linux). When I installed XP, it was on the primary drive; I moved the drive to the slave position and, rather than mess with boot.ini, etc., I simply swapped bios drive numbers in lilo for the Windows boot. If you are using XP or W2K or later, this stanza should work in the situation which you describe: other=/dev/hdb1 label=WinXP table=/dev/hdb master-boot -- paul It is important to realize that any lock can be picked with a big enough hammer. -- Sun System & Network Admin manual -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dual boot debian & Windoze, need advice
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 08:30:21PM +, stephen parkinson wrote: > Paul E Condon wrote: > > >I want to dual boot an i686 machine with Debian Sarge and Windoze. My > >situation is somewhat special, so the directions that I find when I > >google the topic do not really apply IMHO. > > > >The i686 computer already has Sarge installed on a 60G HD, and Windoze > >XP installed on a 30G HD that is sitting inside the case. But the > >Windoze HD is currently disconnected from both the ribbon cable and > >the power cable. > > > >I want to add an appropriate stanza to lilo.conf and connect cables to > >get dual boot with a minimum of reinstalling. I would like to have the > >60G HD be hda under Linux, and the 30G HD be C: under Windoze. I would > >like to use lilo. > > > >My understanding is that bios boot code on an i686 looks at the MBR of > >the master drive on the first IDE channel to find the 2nd stage boot > >program, and that lilo overwrites this record. > > > >If I do the cabling so that Windoze HD is the slave drive, lilo should > >not touch the MBR of the Windoze HD. Correct? > > > >So what do I put in the Windoze stanza of lilo.conf to make boot program > >load Windoze? And is there a reasonable hope that Windoze can be made to > >think that the slave drive is C:? Or will it do this automatically? > > > >Or, am I crazy to be contemplating this? > > > >TIA > > > > > > > istr that windows ignores non-dos partition types > for drive allocation letters > > i have a vague idea that the problem is the stanza > for windows > further than that i don't know > > did you install windoze on the slave drive when it was in the machine as > a master? > The Windoze HD came with the computer in the original purchase, and was pre-loaded. It was/is master. And the Linux HD is, currently, also master. Of course one would have to change. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dual boot debian & Windoze, need advice
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 01:06:38PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > So what do I put in the Windoze stanza of lilo.conf to make boot program > load Windoze? And is there a reasonable hope that Windoze can be made to > think that the slave drive is C:? Or will it do this automatically? In my experience, when Windows is on anything other than the first partition of the primary master HD, the results are unpredictable and event-sequence dependent. 98 will walk the bios chain and the first dos-readable partition becomes C:. NT/W2K/XP have completely different algorithms for assigning driver letters during setup and post setup. The number of permutations for failure modes for NT is stochastic. In other words: don't f*cking bother. > > Or, am I crazy to be contemplating this? > > TIA > > -- > Paul E Condon > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dual boot debian & Windoze, need advice
Paul E Condon wrote: I want to dual boot an i686 machine with Debian Sarge and Windoze. My situation is somewhat special, so the directions that I find when I google the topic do not really apply IMHO. The i686 computer already has Sarge installed on a 60G HD, and Windoze XP installed on a 30G HD that is sitting inside the case. But the Windoze HD is currently disconnected from both the ribbon cable and the power cable. I want to add an appropriate stanza to lilo.conf and connect cables to get dual boot with a minimum of reinstalling. I would like to have the 60G HD be hda under Linux, and the 30G HD be C: under Windoze. I would like to use lilo. My understanding is that bios boot code on an i686 looks at the MBR of the master drive on the first IDE channel to find the 2nd stage boot program, and that lilo overwrites this record. If I do the cabling so that Windoze HD is the slave drive, lilo should not touch the MBR of the Windoze HD. Correct? So what do I put in the Windoze stanza of lilo.conf to make boot program load Windoze? And is there a reasonable hope that Windoze can be made to think that the slave drive is C:? Or will it do this automatically? Or, am I crazy to be contemplating this? TIA istr that windows ignores non-dos partition types for drive allocation letters i have a vague idea that the problem is the stanza for windows further than that i don't know did you install windoze on the slave drive when it was in the machine as a master? srp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dual boot debian & Windoze, need advice
I want to dual boot an i686 machine with Debian Sarge and Windoze. My situation is somewhat special, so the directions that I find when I google the topic do not really apply IMHO. The i686 computer already has Sarge installed on a 60G HD, and Windoze XP installed on a 30G HD that is sitting inside the case. But the Windoze HD is currently disconnected from both the ribbon cable and the power cable. I want to add an appropriate stanza to lilo.conf and connect cables to get dual boot with a minimum of reinstalling. I would like to have the 60G HD be hda under Linux, and the 30G HD be C: under Windoze. I would like to use lilo. My understanding is that bios boot code on an i686 looks at the MBR of the master drive on the first IDE channel to find the 2nd stage boot program, and that lilo overwrites this record. If I do the cabling so that Windoze HD is the slave drive, lilo should not touch the MBR of the Windoze HD. Correct? So what do I put in the Windoze stanza of lilo.conf to make boot program load Windoze? And is there a reasonable hope that Windoze can be made to think that the slave drive is C:? Or will it do this automatically? Or, am I crazy to be contemplating this? TIA -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
