Re: dualboot linux and NT?

1999-01-24 Thread Jaymes Hill
 Still, I'm not sure if NT 4.0 doesn't support FAT32.  Its a nonissue 
for me since all I use partition 2 for is the pagefile.sys.

Unless they introduced it in SP4, it doesn't.


Windows NT doesn't provide support for FAT32 out-of-the-box, but there 
are thrid-party programs that allow you to access FAT32 partitions. eg. 
FAT32 by Winternals (www.winternals.com)

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Re: dualboot linux and NT?

1999-01-23 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 06:50:32PM -0500, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote:
 Hmmm ... I just checked and indeed my second partition is FAT16.
 Still, I'm not sure if NT 4.0 doesn't support FAT32.  Its a nonissue
 for me since all I use partition 2 for is the pagefile.sys.

Unless they introduced it in SP4, it doesn't.


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Re: dualboot linux and NT?

1999-01-22 Thread Frederick Page
Hi Jean,

you wrote on: 20 Jan 99 at 13:14 (received 21.01.99)
about   : _Re: dualboot linux and NT?_

 That's exactly the problem, you need to have a FAT16-partition within the
 first 1024 cylinders of the first harddrive. The so-called C: (speaking in
 DOS-/Win-terms).

This is clearly not true.  I have a dual boot configuration on my Dell
Inspiron with one IDE harddrive configured as follows:

  MBR   lilo


I'm sorry, I did not make myself clear enough: what I meant is, if you  
have the NT-Bootmanager on the MBR of your hd, it needs the NTLDR,  
NTDETECT.COM and BOOT.INI on the first Fat16-partition. I have the  
following configuration (three SCSI-hds, each 2 GB):

MBR: NT-Bootmanager

sda1 Win 95 (fat 16) 1 GB
sda2 Win NT 4.0, SP3 (NTFS) 1 GB
sdb1 Linux (ext2) 1.9 GB
sbd5 Linux swap 0.1 GB
sdc1 Data (fat 16) 2 GB

And I boot LILO with the NT-Bootmanager, also works fine.

  partition-1   Windows-NT, 4.0-service pack 4, NTFS
  partition-2   FAT32, pagefile.sys, only used for virtual memory

How does that work? I was always under the impression, that Fat32 was not  
supported by NT 4.0.

Kind regardsFrederick


Re: dualboot linux and NT?

1999-01-22 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq


On 21 Jan 1999, Frederick Page wrote:

 And I boot LILO with the NT-Bootmanager, also works fine.
 
   partition-1   Windows-NT, 4.0-service pack 4, NTFS
   partition-2   FAT32, pagefile.sys, only used for virtual memory
 
 How does that work? I was always under the impression, that Fat32 was not  
 supported by NT 4.0.

Hmmm ... I just checked and indeed my second partition is FAT16.
Still, I'm not sure if NT 4.0 doesn't support FAT32.  Its a nonissue
for me since all I use partition 2 for is the pagefile.sys.

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Re: dualboot linux and NT?

1999-01-20 Thread Frederick Page
Hi Tom,

you wrote on: 18 Jan 99 at 15:30 (received 19.01.99)
about   : _Re: dualboot linux and NT?_

WinNT can not boot directly from a slave disk, as far as I know.

Well, it *can* boot from any disk and any partition, no matter what.

It needs to have it's boot files on the active partition on the master
drive.

That's exactly the problem, you need to have a FAT16-partition within the  
first 1024 cylinders of the first harddrive. The so-called C: (speaking in  
DOS-/Win-terms).

Daryl made several mistakes. Win NT needs a (small) FAT16-partition (C:)  
in order to boot, this partition has to carry the NTLDR.EXE, boot.ini and  
other hidden files.

I triple-boot my machine with Win 95, Win NT and Linux, no problem at all.  
linux is on the second hard-disk (the first is completely occupied by both  
Wins).

Here's what to do: create a small FAT16-Partition at the beginning of the  
drive (Partition Magic, e.g.), put NTLDR and other NT-files there (rescue  
installation). Boot Linux and create a boot-floppy (if you haven't already  
got one).

Boot Linux and enter

dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=512 count=1 of=/boot/bootsec.lin

this copies the bootblock from your hd (you might need to change hda1 to  
hda2 since hda1 is your fat16-partition) to /boot/bootsec.lin

Create/modifiy /etc/lilo.conf

boot=/boot/bootsec.lin
root=/dev/hda1
compact
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
delay=3
image=/vmlinuz
  root=/dev/hda1
  label=linux
  read-only

now run

lilo -v -v

Now copy the bootsector to your first fat16-partition (whereever you  
mounted it)

cp /boot/bootsec.lin /mnt/drivec/bootsec.lin

Now rescue the NT-system (with your NT-CD) restore boot-loader, etc. etc.

Edit the boot.ini (on fat16) and add the following line

c:\bootsec.lin=linux

(remember this file has attributes r s h!)

You'll have to re-run lilo and copy the bootsec.lin after kernel-changes  
(another distribution, re-compile, etc.)


Kind regards

Frederick


Re: dualboot linux and NT?

1999-01-20 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On 19 Jan 1999, Frederick Page wrote:

 you wrote on: 18 Jan 99 at 15:30 (received 19.01.99)
 about   : _Re: dualboot linux and NT?_
 
 WinNT can not boot directly from a slave disk, as far as I know.
 
 Well, it *can* boot from any disk and any partition, no matter what.
 
 It needs to have it's boot files on the active partition on the master
 drive.
 
 That's exactly the problem, you need to have a FAT16-partition within the  
 first 1024 cylinders of the first harddrive. The so-called C: (speaking in  
 DOS-/Win-terms).

This is clearly not true.  I have a dual boot configuration on my Dell
Inspiron with one IDE harddrive configured as follows:

  MBR   lilo
  partition-1   Windows-NT, 4.0-service pack 4, NTFS
  partition-2   FAT32, pagefile.sys, only used for virtual memory
  partition-3   Debian, ext2
  partition Remaining Debian filesystems

Works fine.  

-- 
Jean Pierre



Re: dualboot linux and NT?

1999-01-19 Thread Rafael Kitover
On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 05:38:06PM +, Daryl Williams wrote:
 folks,
 
 i have a system running linux debian hamm with kernel 2.0.34.
 this system has 2 IDE drives. linux is installed on the 1st disk
 and boot using lilo. i have windows NT on the second disk which
 is set as a slave IDE disk. when i try to boot windows NT from
 lilo i get the an error message from the system that says is cant
 find NTLDR. i am assuming this error message is comming from
 the NT boot loader.
 
 i have read the howtos on dual booting but none of them address
 this kind of setup with 2 disks. it looks like i might have to edit the
 boot.ini file on NT, but that could result in an unbootable system
 so i am trying to get some feedback before proceeding that down
 road.

Do you have any space on the master disk to make a tiny FAT partition? If
so, just put some sort of dos on it and look at the Linux+NT+win95 howto
(or something like that), set boot=/win95/bootsect.lnx in /etc/lilo.conf
(as someone who's name I forgot on the list previously mentioned, neat trick).

If you don't have any space but a swap partition, you might just convert
the swap partition and setup a swap file instead.

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dualboot linux and NT?

1999-01-18 Thread Daryl Williams
folks,

i have a system running linux debian hamm with kernel 2.0.34.
this system has 2 IDE drives. linux is installed on the 1st disk
and boot using lilo. i have windows NT on the second disk which
is set as a slave IDE disk. when i try to boot windows NT from
lilo i get the an error message from the system that says is cant
find NTLDR. i am assuming this error message is comming from
the NT boot loader.

i have read the howtos on dual booting but none of them address
this kind of setup with 2 disks. it looks like i might have to edit the
boot.ini file on NT, but that could result in an unbootable system
so i am trying to get some feedback before proceeding that down
road.

any ideas, tips, etc. are welcomed.

thanks in advance,

//daryl
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Re: dualboot linux and NT?

1999-01-18 Thread Tom Pfeifer
WinNT can not boot directly from a slave disk, as far as I know. It
needs to have it's boot files on the active partition on the master
drive. It is possible to have the bulk of NT on any drive, but the boot
files must always be on the master drive.

How did you install NT there to begin with? You must have switched
drives around at some point, or originally had a FAT16 partition on the
master drive. 

Tom

Daryl Williams wrote:
 
 folks,
 
 i have a system running linux debian hamm with kernel 2.0.34.
 this system has 2 IDE drives. linux is installed on the 1st disk
 and boot using lilo. i have windows NT on the second disk which
 is set as a slave IDE disk. when i try to boot windows NT from
 lilo i get the an error message from the system that says is cant
 find NTLDR. i am assuming this error message is comming from
 the NT boot loader.
 
 i have read the howtos on dual booting but none of them address
 this kind of setup with 2 disks. it looks like i might have to edit the
 boot.ini file on NT, but that could result in an unbootable system
 so i am trying to get some feedback before proceeding that down
 road.
 
 any ideas, tips, etc. are welcomed.
 
 thanks in advance,
 
 //daryl
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