Re: emacs-nox

2007-11-15 Thread Sebastian Tennant
Quoth Sven Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Sebastian,

 Have you run apt-get update recently?  

Of course. 

 If yes, you should use a different mirror.  FWIW, I already have
 libncurses5 5.6+20071013-1, installed on October 17 (I run unstable).

Hmm.  Interesting.

 I suspect that if I allow dist-upgrade to remove emacs22-nox I won't be
 able to simply install it again, which would be a disaster!

 It won't be that fatal, since you could reinstall it at a later point,
 but that is certainly not what you want.

Indeed not.

 Should I file a bug report, or just wait until a version of libncurses5
 is available that staisfies emacs22-nox.

 First make sure to run apt-get update.  If that does not cure the
 problem, file a bug against the mirrors pseudopackage that your
 mirror is horribly outdated.

This I will do.  Thanks for the information Sven.

Sebastian


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emacs-nox

2007-11-14 Thread Sebastian Tennant
Hi all,

I have the following problem:

  # apt-get install --reinstall emacs22-nox
  [...]
  The following packages have unmet dependencies.
emacs22-nox: Depends: libncurses5 (= 5.6+20071006-3) but 5.6+20070908-1 is
to be installed
  E: Broken packages

But libncurses5 = 5.6+20071006-3 is not available:

  # apt-show-versions libncurses5
  libncurses5   5.6+20070908-1  install ok installed
  libncurses5   5.5-5   stable
  libncurses5   5.6+20070908-1  testing
  libncurses5   5.6+20070908-1  unstable
  libncurses5/testing uptodate 5.6+20070908-1

This unmet dependency means when I want to dist-upgrade I am prompted to
do the following:

  # apt-get dist-upgrade
  Reading package lists... Done
  Building dependency tree   
  Reading state information... Done
  Calculating upgrade... Done
  The following packages will be REMOVED
bbdb debian-el dictem dictionary-el emacs22-nox nxml-mode ruby1.8-elisp
w3m-el
  The following packages have been kept back:
cupsys hpijs hpijs-ppds libcupsys2 mplayer-nogui
  The following packages will be upgraded:
emacs22-bin-common emacs22-common emacs22-el
  3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 8 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
  Need to get 25.7MB of archives.
  After unpacking 14.2MB disk space will be freed.
  Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
  Abort.

I suspect that if I allow dist-upgrade to remove emacs22-nox I won't be
able to simply install it again, which would be a disaster!

Should I file a bug report, or just wait until a version of libncurses5
is available that staisfies emacs22-nox.

Sebastian


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Re: emacs-nox

2007-11-14 Thread Sven Joachim
Hi Sebastian,

Sebastian Tennant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have the following problem:

   # apt-get install --reinstall emacs22-nox
   [...]
   The following packages have unmet dependencies.
 emacs22-nox: Depends: libncurses5 (= 5.6+20071006-3) but 5.6+20070908-1 
 is
 to be installed
   E: Broken packages

 But libncurses5 = 5.6+20071006-3 is not available:

   # apt-show-versions libncurses5
   libncurses5 5.6+20070908-1  install ok installed
   libncurses5 5.5-5   stable
   libncurses5 5.6+20070908-1  testing
   libncurses5 5.6+20070908-1  unstable
   libncurses5/testing uptodate 5.6+20070908-1

Have you run apt-get update recently?  If yes, you should use a
different mirror.  FWIW, I already have libncurses5 5.6+20071013-1,
installed on October 17 (I run unstable).

 This unmet dependency means when I want to dist-upgrade I am prompted to
 do the following:

   # apt-get dist-upgrade
   Reading package lists... Done
   Building dependency tree   
   Reading state information... Done
   Calculating upgrade... Done
   The following packages will be REMOVED
 bbdb debian-el dictem dictionary-el emacs22-nox nxml-mode ruby1.8-elisp
 w3m-el
   The following packages have been kept back:
 cupsys hpijs hpijs-ppds libcupsys2 mplayer-nogui
   The following packages will be upgraded:
 emacs22-bin-common emacs22-common emacs22-el
   3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 8 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
   Need to get 25.7MB of archives.
   After unpacking 14.2MB disk space will be freed.
   Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
   Abort.

 I suspect that if I allow dist-upgrade to remove emacs22-nox I won't be
 able to simply install it again, which would be a disaster!

It won't be that fatal, since you could reinstall it at a later point,
but that is certainly not what you want.

 Should I file a bug report, or just wait until a version of libncurses5
 is available that staisfies emacs22-nox.

First make sure to run apt-get update.  If that does not cure the
problem, file a bug against the mirrors pseudopackage that your
mirror is horribly outdated.

Regards,
Sven


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emacs-nox

2002-10-13 Thread Bruce Park

Hello,

Does anyone know where I can find the package for emacs-nox20.7-1? I looked 
on the main site for debian but I couldn't find it.

bp

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Re: emacs-nox

2002-10-13 Thread Henrik Enberg

Bruce Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does anyone know where I can find the package for emacs-nox20.7-1? I
 looked on the main site for debian but I couldn't find it.

There isn't one.  You'll have to build Emacs yourself if you want a
non-x version.

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Re: emacs-nox

2002-10-13 Thread Bob Proulx

Bruce Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-13 18:45:55 -0400]:
 Does anyone know where I can find the package for emacs-nox20.7-1? I looked 
 on the main site for debian but I couldn't find it.

To the best of my knowledge that naming convention is a Redhat naming
scheme.  I don't think Debian offers a stripped down emacs without
dependencies on the X libraries.  You would probably need to build it
yourself without those dependencies if that is your need.  But here is
how I would go about trying to find information about this topic.

If you search for 'emacs' on the debian site with a distribution set
to 'any' then you will see a list of emacs packages.  All of those are
available to install.  Go there and do that and learn what packages
are already available.

  http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

Emacs has its own policy page.  For more information I would look
there.  This should give background as to the rationale behind
things.  This may or may not cover the topic you care about.  But if
it does then you should know about it.

  http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/debian-emacs-policy

I would check the bug tracking system for any bugs against emacs in
this area.  If someone considers this a deficiency then there might be
a bug logged against it with a thread of email discussion it attached
to the bug report.  You asked about emacs20 so I list that but I
personally have upgraded to and use emacs21 these days.

  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=emacs20

And last I would search the debian-emacsen archives for references to
this since I would expect that it would have been discussed there
previously.  It is a low volume list so that should not take long.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-emacsen/

If you think this is a serious deficiency then you can log a report in
the BTS.  That is one way to influence the direction of packages.
And, of course, discussion here is always good.

HTH
Bob



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Re: emacs-nox

2002-10-13 Thread Henrik Enberg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:

 Bruce Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-10-13 18:45:55 -0400]:
 Does anyone know where I can find the package for emacs-nox20.7-1? I looked 
 on the main site for debian but I couldn't find it.


[...]

 I would check the bug tracking system for any bugs against emacs in
 this area.  If someone considers this a deficiency then there might be
 a bug logged against it with a thread of email discussion it attached
 to the bug report.

The maintainer is planning to build non-x versions in the future, but
there are some upstream issues w.r.t. the automatic doc generation that
needs to be fixed first. 

 You asked about emacs20 so I list that but I personally have upgraded
 to and use emacs21 these days.

Especially on the console, since Emacs 21 does syntax highlighting
there.

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