Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed

2011-11-11 Thread Harry Putnam
Alberto Luaces  writes:

>> Here is my .gnus file:

[...]

>> (setq imap-log t)
>> Here are the messages from my *Messages* buffer:

[...]

You've gone beyond my tiny store of possibly helpful input except to
suggest once more that you will definitely get expert help on this
question if you post it and this same surrounding information on one
of the 2 gnus help newsgroups.

If you are not familiar with the gmane gateway, it is a great way to
read mail groups as if they were newsgroups and without any of the
fuss one normally has when subscribing to mail groups.

You can subscribe to gmanes' nntp service at news.gmane.org. (using a
newsreader)

If you want to use gnus to do it then you could susbscribe to it as a
`foreign' server.

get started by pressing B in a gnus group buffer, and follow the
prompts.

keep the default type as `nntp' then enter the server name:
news.gmane.org.

Once that is done you can go into the server buffer, press ENTER on
the gmane server to get the active list.  Then subscribe to 

  gmane.emacs.gnus.user (This is for released versions of gnus)

If you want the development version list:

  gmane.emacs.gnus.general (this is for the development version of
gnus)

If you decide to post a question you will be sent a notice from gmane
the first time... reply to it, then you should be able to post.

Sorry if that is all tmi .. it would be nice if you are able to get
your answers here... but if not.  Expert help is available on those groups.


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Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed

2011-11-11 Thread Alberto Luaces
Sian Mountbatten writes:

> Harry Putnam  writes:
>
>> Sian Mountbatten  writes:
>>
>>> Having loaded gnus into emacs23, in the group buffer I keyed ^
>>> and got a list of servers. Two entries caught my attention:
>>>
>>> {nnimap:Opera} (denied)
>>> {nntp:nntp.aioe.org} (opened) (agent)
>>>
>>> Why was Opera denied? Will there be a log anywhere? The *Messages*
>>> buffer contains nothing about trying to connect to my imap server.
>>
>> Maybe you've already posted it, and since others have mentioned how to
>> get more debug info.
>>
>> I wonder what your .gnus.el setting are.. can you post relevant
>> sections (obfuscating any private inforamation of course)
> Here is my .gnus file:
> (setq user-full-name "Sian Mountbatten")
> (setq user-mail-address "poenik...@operamail.com")
> (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "nntp.aioe.org"))
> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods
>   '((nnimap "Opera"
>(nnimap-address "mail.messagingengine.com")
>(nnimap-authenticator "poenikatu")
>(nnimap-stream ssl)
>(nnimap-server-port 993)
>(remove-prefix "INBOX.")
>(nnimap-authinfo-file "/home/sian/.imap-authinfo"
> (setq imap-log t)
> Here are the messages from my *Messages* buffer:
> ==
> Reading active file from Opera via nnimap...
> Opening nnimap server on Opera...
> imap: Connecting to mail.messagingengine.com...
> imap: Opening SSL connection with `openssl s_client -quiet -ssl3 -connect 
> %s:%p'...done
> Waiting for response from mail.messagingengine.com...done
> Parsing authinfo file `/home/sian/.imap-authinfo'.
> Opening nnimap server on Opera...failed
> Opening nnimap server on Opera...
> Denied server nnimap+Opera
> Opening nnimap server on Opera...failed
> No new newsgroups
> 
> The file ~/.imap-authinfo contains the single line
> machine mail.messagingengine.com login poenikatu password *** port 993
>
> Any ideas of why the Opera nnimap connection failed?
>

H... check if you can connect manually from the shell:

$ openssl s_client -quiet -ssl3 -connect mail.messagingengine.com:993

Once you are connected, type the following command:

. LOGIN poenik...@operamail.com 

to see if there is any problem login in. Note the initial period and the
space between it and the `LOGIN' command.

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Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed

2011-11-11 Thread Sian Mountbatten
Harry Putnam  writes:

> Sian Mountbatten  writes:
>
>> Having loaded gnus into emacs23, in the group buffer I keyed ^
>> and got a list of servers. Two entries caught my attention:
>>
>> {nnimap:Opera} (denied)
>> {nntp:nntp.aioe.org} (opened) (agent)
>>
>> Why was Opera denied? Will there be a log anywhere? The *Messages*
>> buffer contains nothing about trying to connect to my imap server.
>
> Maybe you've already posted it, and since others have mentioned how to
> get more debug info.
>
> I wonder what your .gnus.el setting are.. can you post relevant
> sections (obfuscating any private inforamation of course)
Here is my .gnus file:
(setq user-full-name "Sian Mountbatten")
(setq user-mail-address "poenik...@operamail.com")
(setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "nntp.aioe.org"))
(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods
  '((nnimap "Opera"
 (nnimap-address "mail.messagingengine.com")
 (nnimap-authenticator "poenikatu")
 (nnimap-stream ssl)
 (nnimap-server-port 993)
 (remove-prefix "INBOX.")
 (nnimap-authinfo-file "/home/sian/.imap-authinfo"
(setq imap-log t)
Here are the messages from my *Messages* buffer:
==
Reading active file from Opera via nnimap...
Opening nnimap server on Opera...
imap: Connecting to mail.messagingengine.com...
imap: Opening SSL connection with `openssl s_client -quiet -ssl3 -connect 
%s:%p'...done
Waiting for response from mail.messagingengine.com...done
Parsing authinfo file `/home/sian/.imap-authinfo'.
Opening nnimap server on Opera...failed
Opening nnimap server on Opera...
Denied server nnimap+Opera
Opening nnimap server on Opera...failed
No new newsgroups

The file ~/.imap-authinfo contains the single line
machine mail.messagingengine.com login poenikatu password *** port 993

Any ideas of why the Opera nnimap connection failed?


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Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed

2011-11-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Sian Mountbatten  writes:

> Having loaded gnus into emacs23, in the group buffer I keyed ^
> and got a list of servers. Two entries caught my attention:
>
> {nnimap:Opera} (denied)
> {nntp:nntp.aioe.org} (opened) (agent)
>
> Why was Opera denied? Will there be a log anywhere? The *Messages*
> buffer contains nothing about trying to connect to my imap server.

Maybe you've already posted it, and since others have mentioned how to
get more debug info.

I wonder what your .gnus.el setting are.. can you post relevant
sections (obfuscating any private inforamation of course)


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Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed

2011-11-09 Thread Memnon Anon
Sian Mountbatten  writes:

> Why was Opera denied? Will there be a log anywhere? The *Messages*
> buffer contains nothing about trying to connect to my imap server.

,[ (info "(gnus)Debugging IMAP") ]
| 6.5.6 Debugging IMAP
| 
| 
| [...]
| 
|Because the protocol dump, when enabled, generates lots of data, it
| is disabled by default.  You can enable it by setting `imap-log' as
| follows:
| 
|  (setq imap-log t)
| 
|This instructs the `imap.el' package to log any exchanges with the
| server.  The log is stored in the buffer `*imap-log*'.  Look for error
| messages, which sometimes are tagged with the keyword `BAD'--but when
| submitting a bug, make sure to include all the data.
`

hth
Memnon


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Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed

2011-11-09 Thread Rémi Letot
Sian Mountbatten  writes:

> Having loaded gnus into emacs23, in the group buffer I keyed ^
> and got a list of servers. Two entries caught my attention:
>
> {nnimap:Opera} (denied)
> {nntp:nntp.aioe.org} (opened) (agent)
>
> Why was Opera denied? Will there be a log anywhere? The *Messages*
> buffer contains nothing about trying to connect to my imap server.

Try to close it ('C'), then reopen it ('O'), and see what happens in the
Messages buffer.

HTH,
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Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed

2011-11-09 Thread Sian Mountbatten
Having loaded gnus into emacs23, in the group buffer I keyed ^
and got a list of servers. Two entries caught my attention:

{nnimap:Opera} (denied)
{nntp:nntp.aioe.org} (opened) (agent)

Why was Opera denied? Will there be a log anywhere? The *Messages*
buffer contains nothing about trying to connect to my imap server.


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Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed

2011-11-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Sian Mountbatten  writes:

> I have been trying to get an email client which would access my
> web mail. I've tried
>   kmail -- which simply does not retrieve the mail
>   balsa -- which asks for an SMTP address (I don't have SMTP)
> and I am now using emacs23.
>
> Can anybody tell me how to configure RMAIL so that it accesses
> my mail server.

You can get that on the gnu.emacs.help newsgroup. (on gmane:
gmane.emacs.help) But rmail is not in use so much anymore You
should investigate the mail/news reader bundled with emacs23 called
`gnus'.  It is under lively development currently.  But a newer
version is available with emacs24.

gnus is a very capable reader and handles gmail well thru imap.
You can get lots of expert help at `gnu.emacs.gnus' newsgroup. Or on
gmane: gmane.emacs.gnus.users

You didn't mention what web style account you have.

You might get better advice if you were post more information
concerning what exactly you want to do.

For information on gnus.

If you have texinfo installed you should be able to read all about it
by doing this in emacs:

C-h i  (brings up info manuals)

memacs 
g  gnus 

Or if that seems inadequate or you do not like reading texinfo (info)
manuals, you can access the gnus manual online at:

  http://www.gnus.org/manual.html

Far as which format to use there... you might like 

`monolithic HTML'   Which displays the manual in one very long page.
That makes page searching very easy and you can search the entire
manual with your browsers (C-f on most browsers) page search
functions. 



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Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed

2011-11-08 Thread Bob Proulx
Walter Hurry wrote:
> Sian Mountbatten wrote:
> > I have been trying to get an email client which would access my web
> > mail. I've tried
> >   kmail -- which simply does not retrieve the mail balsa -- which asks
> >   for an SMTP address (I don't have SMTP)
> > and I am now using emacs23.
> > 
> > Can anybody tell me how to configure RMAIL so that it accesses my mail
> > server.

Look at 'fetchmail'.  Assuming your provider enables something like
IMAP or POP then you can use fetchmail to retrieve your email to your
local machine for reading within RMAIL or any other mailer.  Although
it is arguably better to use an IMAP based mail user agent and leave
the email on your web email provider.  That is what I recommend you do
but I won't stop you from trying it anyway.  :-)

Instead of RMAIL let me recommend 'vm' if you want to read email
within emacs.  RMAIL uses an old format mail spool.  Unless you really
want to use RMAIL then you probably don't really want to use RMAIL.

  http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryViewMail

> What "web mail"? For gmail and other accounts I use fetchmail/postfix/
> procmail (and spamassassin) to retrieve using IMAP, and process. Works 
> perfectly for me. I'm afraid I have never heard of "RMAIL".

RMAIL is an old classic email-inside-of-emacs mode.

  http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Rmail.html#Rmail

Bob


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Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed

2011-11-08 Thread Walter Hurry
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:52:34 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote:

> I have been trying to get an email client which would access my web
> mail. I've tried
>   kmail -- which simply does not retrieve the mail balsa -- which asks
>   for an SMTP address (I don't have SMTP)
> and I am now using emacs23.
> 
> Can anybody tell me how to configure RMAIL so that it accesses my mail
> server.

What "web mail"? For gmail and other accounts I use fetchmail/postfix/
procmail (and spamassassin) to retrieve using IMAP, and process. Works 
perfectly for me. I'm afraid I have never heard of "RMAIL".


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emacs RMAIL -- help needed

2011-11-08 Thread Sian Mountbatten
I have been trying to get an email client which would access my
web mail. I've tried
  kmail -- which simply does not retrieve the mail
  balsa -- which asks for an SMTP address (I don't have SMTP)
and I am now using emacs23.

Can anybody tell me how to configure RMAIL so that it accesses
my mail server.

Any help welcome.
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