Re: emu10k1 troubles...
Thanks for all your help so far, now just one more question. When I installed aumix-gtk it did not create a /etc/aumixrc file. When I run aumix it does create a /HOME/.aumixrc but no comments. Which I guess is fine. And I figured out my CD audio and TV card problem I have to set them to record or capture depending on which mixer I am using but I can't find a way to set them both at the same time I can only do one or the other anyway to fix this or do I just have to live with it. Sorry for sounding like a newbie I have been using Linux for about 4 years but sound cards have always given me problems and I don't know why:) Thanks Brad - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Brad Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: Re: emu10k1 troubles... Brad, Sounds like you just have mixer issues. Try apt-get'ting aumix-gtk and using it to tweak your sound levels. It's a little better than alsamixer. Also, when you install the aumix deb, make sure to comment out the lines in /etc/aumixrc (add a # character to the beginning of the line) that prevent it from messing with alsa mixer settings. You'll see them -- they're documented in the aumixrc file. cheers, On Sun, 2001-12-16 at 23:55, Brad Cramer wrote: I now have sound (kind of) I can play mp3s, wav's and I get sound from DVD's but no sound from cd's or through my WinTV card. Any idea about this? I cna't figure out what all the settings on alsamixer are for. I no befor when I first got sound working with alsa0.5x and sblive value cd's and tv card were first to work now it is the other way around. And what about Exound does it not work with Alsa 0.9betaX? Thanks for any more help Brad - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brad Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: Re: emu10k1 troubles... Hi Brad, I have never used make-kpkg kernel tools. How would I use this to set up the alsa stuff needed? You *should* use make-kpkg! :) It makes kernel building and module handling a lot easier. Here's how: Just download the latest alsa-source package by typing apt-get install alsa-source as root. Oh yeah, and do a dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source afterwards so that you can set the packages compile-time settings (what card, what options). After this, go to /usr/src and untar/ungzip the new alsa-source.tar.gz file there. It will make a bunch of sub directories.. modules/alsa-source, I think... then go into /usr/src/linux (or wherever your latest kernel is) and do this: As root, type make-kpkg kernel_image modules. This will (hopefully) bring you to the kernel configure screen if you've never done it before.. (if you don't need the kernel installed or don't want a kernel deb, just use make-kpkg modules)tweak whatever you have to tweak and then exit. make-kpkg will continue to build the kernel and the modules and then assemble nicely debianized packages for both the kernel and modules in /usr/src. From there, just dpkg -i yourkernelpackage.deb yourmodulepackage.deb and it'll install it for you, lilo and all. If you use grub or something else, remember to reinstall it after a kernel upgrade. hope this helps, Matt
Re: emu10k1 troubles...
Brad, Hmm... I think I'm finally at a loss here. I haven't had to mess with TV cards and ALSA before. or do I just have to live with it. Sorry for sounding like a newbie I have been using Linux for about 4 years but sound cards have always given me problems and I don't know why:) Only newbies apologize. :) No worries. cheers and good luck, Matt
Re: emu10k1 troubles...
Brad, Sounds like you just have mixer issues. Try apt-get'ting aumix-gtk and using it to tweak your sound levels. It's a little better than alsamixer. Also, when you install the aumix deb, make sure to comment out the lines in /etc/aumixrc (add a # character to the beginning of the line) that prevent it from messing with alsa mixer settings. You'll see them -- they're documented in the aumixrc file. cheers, On Sun, 2001-12-16 at 23:55, Brad Cramer wrote: I now have sound (kind of) I can play mp3s, wav's and I get sound from DVD's but no sound from cd's or through my WinTV card. Any idea about this? I cna't figure out what all the settings on alsamixer are for. I no befor when I first got sound working with alsa0.5x and sblive value cd's and tv card were first to work now it is the other way around. And what about Exound does it not work with Alsa 0.9betaX? Thanks for any more help Brad - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brad Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: Re: emu10k1 troubles... Hi Brad, I have never used make-kpkg kernel tools. How would I use this to set up the alsa stuff needed? You *should* use make-kpkg! :) It makes kernel building and module handling a lot easier. Here's how: Just download the latest alsa-source package by typing apt-get install alsa-source as root. Oh yeah, and do a dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source afterwards so that you can set the packages compile-time settings (what card, what options). After this, go to /usr/src and untar/ungzip the new alsa-source.tar.gz file there. It will make a bunch of sub directories.. modules/alsa-source, I think... then go into /usr/src/linux (or wherever your latest kernel is) and do this: As root, type make-kpkg kernel_image modules. This will (hopefully) bring you to the kernel configure screen if you've never done it before.. (if you don't need the kernel installed or don't want a kernel deb, just use make-kpkg modules)tweak whatever you have to tweak and then exit. make-kpkg will continue to build the kernel and the modules and then assemble nicely debianized packages for both the kernel and modules in /usr/src. From there, just dpkg -i yourkernelpackage.deb yourmodulepackage.deb and it'll install it for you, lilo and all. If you use grub or something else, remember to reinstall it after a kernel upgrade. hope this helps, Matt
Re: emu10k1 troubles...
Brad, Sounds like you just have mixer issues. Try apt-get'ting aumix-gtk and using it to tweak your sound levels. It's a little better than alsamixer. Also, when you install the aumix deb, make sure to comment out the lines in /etc/aumixrc (add a # character to the beginning of the line) that prevent it from messing with alsa mixer settings. You'll see them -- they're documented in the aumixrc file. cheers, On Sun, 2001-12-16 at 23:55, Brad Cramer wrote: I now have sound (kind of) I can play mp3s, wav's and I get sound from DVD's but no sound from cd's or through my WinTV card. Any idea about this? I cna't figure out what all the settings on alsamixer are for. I no befor when I first got sound working with alsa0.5x and sblive value cd's and tv card were first to work now it is the other way around. And what about Exound does it not work with Alsa 0.9betaX? Thanks for any more help Brad - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brad Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: Re: emu10k1 troubles... Hi Brad, I have never used make-kpkg kernel tools. How would I use this to set up the alsa stuff needed? You *should* use make-kpkg! :) It makes kernel building and module handling a lot easier. Here's how: Just download the latest alsa-source package by typing apt-get install alsa-source as root. Oh yeah, and do a dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source afterwards so that you can set the packages compile-time settings (what card, what options). After this, go to /usr/src and untar/ungzip the new alsa-source.tar.gz file there. It will make a bunch of sub directories.. modules/alsa-source, I think... then go into /usr/src/linux (or wherever your latest kernel is) and do this: As root, type make-kpkg kernel_image modules. This will (hopefully) bring you to the kernel configure screen if you've never done it before.. (if you don't need the kernel installed or don't want a kernel deb, just use make-kpkg modules)tweak whatever you have to tweak and then exit. make-kpkg will continue to build the kernel and the modules and then assemble nicely debianized packages for both the kernel and modules in /usr/src. From there, just dpkg -i yourkernelpackage.deb yourmodulepackage.deb and it'll install it for you, lilo and all. If you use grub or something else, remember to reinstall it after a kernel upgrade. hope this helps, Matt
Re: emu10k1 troubles...
I now have sound (kind of) I can play mp3s, wav's and I get sound from DVD's but no sound from cd's or through my WinTV card. Any idea about this? I cna't figure out what all the settings on alsamixer are for. I no befor when I first got sound working with alsa0.5x and sblive value cd's and tv card were first to work now it is the other way around. And what about Exound does it not work with Alsa 0.9betaX? Thanks for any more help Brad - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brad Cramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: Re: emu10k1 troubles... Hi Brad, I have never used make-kpkg kernel tools. How would I use this to set up the alsa stuff needed? You *should* use make-kpkg! :) It makes kernel building and module handling a lot easier. Here's how: Just download the latest alsa-source package by typing apt-get install alsa-source as root. Oh yeah, and do a dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source afterwards so that you can set the packages compile-time settings (what card, what options). After this, go to /usr/src and untar/ungzip the new alsa-source.tar.gz file there. It will make a bunch of sub directories.. modules/alsa-source, I think... then go into /usr/src/linux (or wherever your latest kernel is) and do this: As root, type make-kpkg kernel_image modules. This will (hopefully) bring you to the kernel configure screen if you've never done it before.. (if you don't need the kernel installed or don't want a kernel deb, just use make-kpkg modules)tweak whatever you have to tweak and then exit. make-kpkg will continue to build the kernel and the modules and then assemble nicely debianized packages for both the kernel and modules in /usr/src. From there, just dpkg -i yourkernelpackage.deb yourmodulepackage.deb and it'll install it for you, lilo and all. If you use grub or something else, remember to reinstall it after a kernel upgrade. hope this helps, Matt
Re: emu10k1 troubles...
The ALSA emu10k1 driver is finally superior to the kernel OSS sound drivers for sblive. No more hisses and pops, and it's super-easy to install with make-kpkg kernel tools. cheers, Matt
Re: emu10k1 troubles...
I have never used make-kpkg kernel tools. How would I use this to set up the alsa stuff needed? Brad - Original Message - From: Matt Yanchyshyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 10:39 AM Subject: Re: emu10k1 troubles... The ALSA emu10k1 driver is finally superior to the kernel OSS sound drivers for sblive. No more hisses and pops, and it's super-easy to install with make-kpkg kernel tools. cheers, Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emu10k1 troubles...
Hi Brad, I have never used make-kpkg kernel tools. How would I use this to set up the alsa stuff needed? You *should* use make-kpkg! :) It makes kernel building and module handling a lot easier. Here's how: Just download the latest alsa-source package by typing apt-get install alsa-source as root. Oh yeah, and do a dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source afterwards so that you can set the packages compile-time settings (what card, what options). After this, go to /usr/src and untar/ungzip the new alsa-source.tar.gz file there. It will make a bunch of sub directories.. modules/alsa-source, I think... then go into /usr/src/linux (or wherever your latest kernel is) and do this: As root, type make-kpkg kernel_image modules. This will (hopefully) bring you to the kernel configure screen if you've never done it before.. (if you don't need the kernel installed or don't want a kernel deb, just use make-kpkg modules)tweak whatever you have to tweak and then exit. make-kpkg will continue to build the kernel and the modules and then assemble nicely debianized packages for both the kernel and modules in /usr/src. From there, just dpkg -i yourkernelpackage.deb yourmodulepackage.deb and it'll install it for you, lilo and all. If you use grub or something else, remember to reinstall it after a kernel upgrade. hope this helps, Matt
Re: emu10k1 troubles...
To a previous question about /dev, I don't usually use devfs on this
machine but to findout what the kernel was seeing:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jon]$ ls /mnt/sound/
dsp dsp1 midi mixer
Now to see what of this is really in /dev:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jon]$ ls -l /dev/{dsp,dsp1,midi,mixer}
ls: /dev/midi: No such file or directory
crw-rw1 root user 14, 3 Nov 30 2000 /dev/dsp
crw-rw1 root user 14, 19 Nov 30 2000 /dev/dsp1
crw-rw-rw-1 root user 14, 0 Nov 30 2000 /dev/mixer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jon]$ groups
user rt systems aries sysadmin uucp
Note root has the same trouble
On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 04:40:33PM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote:
:The emu10k1 driver in 2.4.6 is pretty stale; it was updated somewhere
:around 2.4.9 to come somewhat up to date with the creative sources. I
:believe there were updated because the older driver didn't work for
:Linus.
I got the latest from creative and built against the running kernel,
buth the stock 2.4.6 and the creative modules exhibit the same
problem.
: emu10k156272 0
: ac97_codec 9264 0 [emu10k1]
:
:I assume the sound module is loaded as well, right?
Oh, yes cut too much
:Does the driver load properly in dmesg?
Yup:
Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version 0.17, 11:36:20 Dec 11 2001
emu10k1: EMU10K1 rev 7 model 0x8022 found, IO at 0xdce0-0xdcff, IRQ 16
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7609 (SigmaTel STAC9721/23)
:Does something like:
:# cat some_sound.wav /dev/dsp
Nope, no complaints and no sound. I just discovered /dev/dsp1 in
responding to these messages, wouldn't it be clever if that's all my
trouble is. Unfortunately I won't be able to test this untill
tomorrow.
-Jon
emu10k1 troubles...
Hi, I'm having weird problems with sound using the emu10k1 module. The system bell is coming out through the speakers, but other sound (xmms, gcd, etc..) seems to play (ie no complaints about devices, visualization shows levels) but no sound comes out. Adjusting mixer levels affects the system bell, but not the others. I'm running 2.4.6, tried the modules that built with it and the latest from creative. Both have the same behaviour. Get the same as root and two different regular users. emu10k156272 0 ac97_codec 9264 0 [emu10k1] I'm puzzled. -Jon
Re: emu10k1 troubles...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 December 2001 4:11 pm, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: Hi, I'm having weird problems with sound using the emu10k1 module. The system bell is coming out through the speakers, but other sound (xmms, gcd, etc..) seems to play (ie no complaints about devices, visualization shows levels) but no sound comes out. What /dev files do you have? - -- Alan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8F8TO1mf3M5ZDr2kRAtpwAJ9q81iUrK5xZjc0mkR5LjcqzOygJACgqEHe IDbwIuh98fnkgwtaQQ3d+ec= =PGmk -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: emu10k1 troubles...
On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:57:50 + Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 December 2001 4:11 pm, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: Hi, I'm having weird problems with sound using the emu10k1 module. The system bell is coming out through the speakers, but other sound (xmms, gcd, etc..) seems to play (ie no complaints about devices, visualization shows levels) but no sound comes out. I've the same card running sid and that happened to me too a while ago. I don't use the module, it's compiled into a custom kernel. Then I installed the emu-tools (I've got them from creative's site), but didn't really understand what's that about. I tried out a couple of commands with different arguments, and all of the sudden it worked, much better than before. Too bad, I've no idea what I did then, so if it happens again, I'll have to guess. But be carefull, there are some patches which do some really strange things... Sorry, can't tell you more. -- Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help .
Re: emu10k1 troubles...
Jonathan D. Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'm having weird problems with sound using the emu10k1 module. The system bell is coming out through the speakers, but other sound (xmms, gcd, etc..) seems to play (ie no complaints about devices, visualization shows levels) but no sound comes out. Adjusting mixer levels affects the system bell, but not the others. I'm running 2.4.6, tried the modules that built with it and the latest from creative. Both have the same behaviour. Get the same as root and two different regular users. The emu10k1 driver in 2.4.6 is pretty stale; it was updated somewhere around 2.4.9 to come somewhat up to date with the creative sources. I believe there were updated because the older driver didn't work for Linus. emu10k156272 0 ac97_codec 9264 0 [emu10k1] I assume the sound module is loaded as well, right? Does the driver load properly in dmesg? Does something like: # cat some_sound.wav /dev/dsp work? -- Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bignachos.com
