Re: excessive CPU usage (SOLVED)

[Gary Roach]

On 09/21/2014 11:54 AM, Gary Roach wrote:

Hi all

For the last few months I have been plagued by very slow response from 
my system. As an example, it takes 2 1/2 minutes to drag and drop 80 
files from my email inbox to the trash bin in icedove. It has taken as 
high as 5 minutes for iceweasel to load. This problem is not just 
these packages but also applies to all of the rest of my programs.


I am using Debian Wheezy with a i5750 4 core processor on a fast Intel 
board. I run a kde desktop. All the software is up to date.


I have checked all of the log files and can't find any anomalies. 
Rebooting doesn't help.


Using the KDE System Monitor (ksysguard) I have noticed that at least 
one of the processors goes to 100% and stays there for long periods 
even though there is no noticeable activity in the process tables. The 
only other thing I have noticed (the printing just hung up while I am 
writing this) is that the hard drive indicator comes on and stays on 
during the processor activity. I ran some checks on the hard drive but 
found no indication of any hard drive problems.


Has anyone else had a similar problem or have any idea what is going on.

Thanks in advance

Gary R.


Thanks for all of the help. It was pointed out on a web site I found 
that SMART item 5 - Reallocated_Sector_Cnt - was zero, indicating that 
there was no bad sectors found. Further, all of the logged errors were 
DMA Read / Write errors that occurred very recently. To me, this 
indicated a problem with the drives logic board. I bought an identical 
drive - except a Caviar Black instead of Green -  and used Clonezilla to 
clone the original to the new drive. I had to use the -recover- mode 
because of the errors. It took most of the day but finally completed. I 
unplugged the old drive and rebooted the system. Everything works great. 
The black drive is faster than the green one so the system is even more 
responsive that it was originally.


Thanks again for all of the help. Using SMART works if you can ever 
figure out what all of that cryptic data means.


Gary R.


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Re: excessive CPU usage

[Håkon Alstadheim]

This is getting embarassing, hdparm does obvously also need to know 
which drive to read from, something like "hdparm   --read-sector 307316 
/dev/sda".

I'll not bother the entire list with that :)

On 29. sep. 2014 10:48, Håkon Alstadheim wrote:

On 29. sep. 2014 09:32, Julien b wrote:

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining 
LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offlineCompleted: read failure   90% 
35888 307316
# 2  Short offline   Completed: read failure   90% 
35887 330254
# 3  Extended offlineCompleted: read failure   90% 
35887 410646
Sorry for the verbiage, but you might have the clues you need to start 
reassigning sectors here, though I have on occasion seen that the LBA 
is reported erroneously by smartctl. You will find out soon enough if 
you do


$ hdparm  --read-sector 307316
$ hdparm --read-sector 330254
$ hdparm --read-sector 410646
---
If you get errors from the above commands, you need to reassign those 
sectors. If not, then smartctl may be reporting erroneously because 
the drive has not been able to store the correct value of the sector 
where the error occured in its internal log. Your numbers look good 
though (they do not look like a single "highest possible integer" that 
you would most likely get if the values are wrong).


If smartcl is in error, you need to find the error when they happened 
in your system logs. I.E. you need to find the bad sectors somewhere 
like /var/log/syslog (or is it /var/log/messages ? ) . I forget. grep 
for 'SAT' or 'ATA' in your logs.


It may also be that you have "lucked out", and the sectors have been 
written to, and thus reassigned automatically. This will make the next 
read from that sector succeed, if the drive is not totally beyond repair.


And, like I said at first, this is merely a stop-gap-while your drive 
is getting progressively worse, and %wa goes up in "top" (you never 
told us how much wait you have).


So your plan should be:

1) Back up everything
2) Order a new drive
3) muddle through while you wait for your replacement.

You should consider ordering TWO drives, and run them in a mirror. 
Then you can set error-timeout to 7 seconds and not experience such 
bad performance the next time a drive starts failing. DO NOT set that 
error timeout if you only have one drive, or chances of data-loss will 
increase.


Remember, if your drive is in warranty, a replacement is free.

Re: excessive CPU usage

[Håkon Alstadheim]

On 29. sep. 2014 09:32, Julien b wrote:

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_DescriptionStatus  Remaining 
LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offlineCompleted: read failure   90% 
35888 307316
# 2  Short offline   Completed: read failure   90% 
35887 330254
# 3  Extended offlineCompleted: read failure   90% 
35887 410646
Sorry for the verbiage, but you might have the clues you need to start 
reassigning sectors here, though I have on occasion seen that the LBA is 
reported erroneously by smartctl. You will find out soon enough if you do


$ hdparm  --read-sector 307316
$ hdparm --read-sector 330254
$ hdparm --read-sector 410646
---
If you get errors from the above commands, you need to reassign those 
sectors. If not, then smartctl may be reporting erroneously because the 
drive has not been able to store the correct value of the sector where 
the error occured in its internal log. Your numbers look good though 
(they do not look like a single "highest possible integer" that you 
would most likely get if the values are wrong).


If smartcl is in error, you need to find the error when they happened in 
your system logs. I.E. you need to find the bad sectors somewhere like 
/var/log/syslog (or is it /var/log/messages ? ) . I forget. grep for 
'SAT' or 'ATA' in your logs.


It may also be that you have "lucked out", and the sectors have been 
written to, and thus reassigned automatically. This will make the next 
read from that sector succeed, if the drive is not totally beyond repair.


And, like I said at first, this is merely a stop-gap-while your drive is 
getting progressively worse, and %wa goes up in "top" (you never told us 
how much wait you have).


So your plan should be:

1) Back up everything
2) Order a new drive
3) muddle through while you wait for your replacement.

You should consider ordering TWO drives, and run them in a mirror. Then 
you can set error-timeout to 7 seconds and not experience such bad 
performance the next time a drive starts failing. DO NOT set that error 
timeout if you only have one drive, or chances of data-loss will increase.


Remember, if your drive is in warranty, a replacement is free.

Re: excessive CPU usage

[Håkon Alstadheim]

On 29. sep. 2014 09:55, Håkon Alstadheim wrote:

On 29. sep. 2014 09:32, Julien b wrote:
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030   198  189   000   
Old_ageOffline - 232  0

Get a new drive.
Sorry to follow up on myself, but, in the mean-time you should also 
check the logs to figure out exactly which sectors are having problems, 
and re-write those sectors (or the files occupying those sectors) to get 
them reassigned to good parts of the drive.


Read up on smartmontools if you do not know what I mean . This 
 might 
be a start, but I have not studied that exact page extensively to check 
if that one is the definitive guide.

Re: excessive CPU usage

[Håkon Alstadheim]

On 29. sep. 2014 09:32, Julien b wrote:
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030   198  189   000 Old_age  
  Offline -232   0

Get a new drive.

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Re: excessive CPU usage

[Julien boooo]

Hello Gary

What does "top" returns ?
-> high load average ? / high %sys ? ...

2014-09-29 4:32 GMT+02:00 Gary Roach :

>  On 09/21/2014 11:54 AM, Gary Roach wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> For the last few months I have been plagued by very slow response from my
> system. As an example, it takes 2 1/2 minutes to drag and drop 80 files
> from my email inbox to the trash bin in icedove. It has taken as high as 5
> minutes for iceweasel to load. This problem is not just these packages but
> also applies to all of the rest of my programs.
>
> I am using Debian Wheezy with a i5750 4 core processor on a fast Intel
> board. I run a kde desktop. All the software is up to date.
>
> I have checked all of the log files and can't find any anomalies.
> Rebooting doesn't help.
>
> Using the KDE System Monitor (ksysguard) I have noticed that at least one
> of the processors goes to 100% and stays there for long periods even though
> there is no noticeable activity in the process tables. The only other thing
> I have noticed (the printing just hung up while I am writing this) is that
> the hard drive indicator comes on and stays on during the processor
> activity. I ran some checks on the hard drive but found no indication of
> any hard drive problems.
>
> Has anyone else had a similar problem or have any idea what is going on.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Gary R.
>
>
>  After several days of investigation, I am still not sure what is causing
> the problem. I have noted the following:
>
> The journaling program jbd2/sda1-8 is taking up most of the I/O time. I do
> have noatime set in fstab.
>
> Having two identical machines is very helpful. My wifes system is fast and
> never bogs down. Mine is a real dog at this time. I ran iotop on both
> systems. In my wifes kjournal will pop to the top of the list for a very
> short period when loading a new application. Otherwise iotop is quiet. On
> mine kjournal doesn't show at all but jbd2/sda1-8 shows up all of the time.
> There is constant activity on my system even when nothing is happening.
>
> Below is the output from gsmartcontrol. Note that vendor specific
> attributes 197 and 198 raw values are 757 and 232 respectively and are
> highlighted in pink on the gsmartcontrol program. My wifes computer's raw
> values are included in the last column of the smart attributes table for
> comparison. Also note that there were no errors reported for my wifes
> system. Do I need to replace the drive or is this fixable. Is this even the
> root cause of my problems. I'm not too sharp on reading this data an will
> appreciate comments from a more knowledgeable person.
>
>
>
>
> smartctl 5.41 2011-06-09 r3365 [x86_64-linux-3.2.0-4-amd64] (local build)
> Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net
>
> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> Model Family: Western Digital Caviar Green
> Device Model: WDC WD5000AADS-00M2B0
> Serial Number:WD-WCAV59765616
> LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 25992fc38
> Firmware Version: 01.00A01
> User Capacity:500,107,862,016 bytes [500 GB]
> Sector Size:  512 bytes logical/physical
> Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
> ATA Version is:   8
> ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
> Local Time is:Sun Sep 28 18:12:56 2014 PDT
> SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
> SMART support is: Enabled
>
> === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
>
> General SMART Values:
> Offline data collection status:  (0x84)Offline data collection activity
> was suspended by an interrupting command from host.
> Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
> Self-test execution status:  ( 121)The previous self-test
> completed having
> the read element of the test failed.
> Total time to complete Offline
> data collection: ( 9960) seconds.
> Offline data collection
> capabilities:  (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
> Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
> Suspend Offline collection upon new
> command.
> Offline surface scan supported.
> Self-test supported.
> Conveyance Self-test supported.
> Selective Self-test supported.
> SMART capabilities:(0x0003)Saves SMART data before entering
> power-saving mode.
> Supports SMART auto save timer.
> Error logging capability:(0x01)Error logging supported.
> General Purpose Logging supported.
> Short self-test routine
> recommended polling time:  (   2) minutes.
> Extended self-test routine
> recommended polling time:  ( 118) minutes.
> Conveyance self-test routine
> recommended polling time:  (   5) minutes.
> SCT capabilities:   

Re: excessive CPU usage

[Gary Roach]

On 09/21/2014 11:54 AM, Gary Roach wrote:

Hi all

For the last few months I have been plagued by very slow response from 
my system. As an example, it takes 2 1/2 minutes to drag and drop 80 
files from my email inbox to the trash bin in icedove. It has taken as 
high as 5 minutes for iceweasel to load. This problem is not just 
these packages but also applies to all of the rest of my programs.


I am using Debian Wheezy with a i5750 4 core processor on a fast Intel 
board. I run a kde desktop. All the software is up to date.


I have checked all of the log files and can't find any anomalies. 
Rebooting doesn't help.


Using the KDE System Monitor (ksysguard) I have noticed that at least 
one of the processors goes to 100% and stays there for long periods 
even though there is no noticeable activity in the process tables. The 
only other thing I have noticed (the printing just hung up while I am 
writing this) is that the hard drive indicator comes on and stays on 
during the processor activity. I ran some checks on the hard drive but 
found no indication of any hard drive problems.


Has anyone else had a similar problem or have any idea what is going on.

Thanks in advance

Gary R.


After several days of investigation, I am still not sure what is causing 
the problem. I have noted the following:


The journaling program jbd2/sda1-8 is taking up most of the I/O time. I 
do have noatime set in fstab.


Having two identical machines is very helpful. My wifes system is fast 
and never bogs down. Mine is a real dog at this time. I ran iotop on 
both systems. In my wifes kjournal will pop to the top of the list for a 
very short period when loading a new application. Otherwise iotop is 
quiet. On mine kjournal doesn't show at all but jbd2/sda1-8 shows up all 
of the time. There is constant activity on my system even when nothing 
is happening.


Below is the output from gsmartcontrol. Note that vendor specific 
attributes 197 and 198 raw values are 757 and 232 respectively and are 
highlighted in pink on the gsmartcontrol program. My wifes computer's 
raw values are included in the last column of the smart attributes table 
for comparison. Also note that there were no errors reported for my 
wifes  system. Do I need to replace the drive or is this fixable. Is 
this even the root cause of my problems. I'm not too sharp on reading 
this data an will appreciate comments from a more knowledgeable person.





smartctl 5.41 2011-06-09 r3365 [x86_64-linux-3.2.0-4-amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-11 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Western Digital Caviar Green
Device Model: WDC WD5000AADS-00M2B0
Serial Number:WD-WCAV59765616
LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 25992fc38
Firmware Version: 01.00A01
User Capacity:500,107,862,016 bytes [500 GB]
Sector Size:  512 bytes logical/physical
Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   8
ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is:Sun Sep 28 18:12:56 2014 PDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x84)Offline data collection activity
was suspended by an interrupting command from host.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:  ( 121)The previous self-test 
completed having

the read element of the test failed.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 9960) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:  (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:(0x0003)Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:(0x01)Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:  (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:  ( 118) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:  (   5) minutes.
SCT capabilities:(0x3037)SCT Status supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE

Re: excessive CPU usage

[Steve Litt]

I wouldn't want to speculate before using htop and iotop, but for many
of the years I used Kmail (and therefore the KDE libraries), I
regularly had dbus-daemon instances go rogue and eat up 98% of the
processor. It got so bad that I made a daemon to go out every 5
seconds, find any dbus-daemon instances that had been > 95% for two
cycles in a row, and kill them.

So, if the OP finds out that dbus-daemon *is* the problem (which is
unlikely just because of the huge number of possible causes), I can
give him the daemon.

SteveT

On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 15:08:26 -0400
Gary Dale  wrote:

> Could be virtuoso or nepomuk. I had similar problems from time to
> time that were traced to one of those two programs.
> 
> 
> On 21/09/14 02:54 PM, Gary Roach wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > For the last few months I have been plagued by very slow response
> > from my system. As an example, it takes 2 1/2 minutes to drag and
> > drop 80 files from my email inbox to the trash bin in icedove. It
> > has taken as high as 5 minutes for iceweasel to load. This problem
> > is not just these packages but also applies to all of the rest of
> > my programs.
> >
> > I am using Debian Wheezy with a i5750 4 core processor on a fast
> > Intel board. I run a kde desktop. All the software is up to date.
> >
> > I have checked all of the log files and can't find any anomalies. 
> > Rebooting doesn't help.
> >
> > Using the KDE System Monitor (ksysguard) I have noticed that at
> > least one of the processors goes to 100% and stays there for long
> > periods even though there is no noticeable activity in the process
> > tables. The only other thing I have noticed (the printing just hung
> > up while I am writing this) is that the hard drive indicator comes
> > on and stays on during the processor activity. I ran some checks on
> > the hard drive but found no indication of any hard drive problems.
> >
> > Has anyone else had a similar problem or have any idea what is
> > going on.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Gary R.
> >
> >
> 
> 



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Re: excessive CPU usage

[Steve Litt]

On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 22:58:38 +0400
Reco  wrote:

>  Hi.
> 
> On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 11:54:01 -0700
> Gary Roach  wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone else had a similar problem or have any idea what is
> > going on.
> 
> apt-get install iotop.
> Run iotop as root once you experience a slowdown.
> The process on top of the list is the one which's causing all this
> mess on your PC (most probably, as there may be several of them).

Very nice!

Thanks for the tip.

SteveT

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Re: excessive CPU usage

[Håkon Alstadheim]

On 21. sep. 2014 20:54, Gary Roach wrote:

Hi all

For the last few months I have been plagued by very slow response from 
my system.

...
at least one of the processors goes to 100% and stays there for long 
periods 

...

no noticeable activity in the process tables.

...

hard drive indicator comes on and stays on


Are your drives healthy?
What is then number in front of "wa" in the "top" output?
Are you running smartd/smartmontools?

If you are running a raid setup with redundancy, you should shorten the 
error-timeouts on your drives to 7 seconds, with "smartctl -l scterc,70,70".

If you are not running a raid level > 0, go buy a mirror drive stat.


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Re: excessive CPU usage

[Karl E. Jorgensen]

Hi

On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:54:01AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> For the last few months I have been plagued by very slow response
> from my system. As an example, it takes 2 1/2 minutes to drag and
> drop 80 files from my email inbox to the trash bin in icedove. It
> has taken as high as 5 minutes for iceweasel to load. This problem
> is not just these packages but also applies to all of the rest of my
> programs.
> 
> I am using Debian Wheezy with a i5750 4 core processor on a fast
> Intel board. I run a kde desktop. All the software is up to date.
> 
> I have checked all of the log files and can't find any anomalies.
> Rebooting doesn't help.
> 
> Using the KDE System Monitor (ksysguard) I have noticed that at
> least one of the processors goes to 100% and stays there for long
> periods even though there is no noticeable activity in the process
> tables. The only other thing I have noticed (the printing just hung
> up while I am writing this) is that the hard drive indicator comes
> on and stays on during the processor activity. I ran some checks on
> the hard drive but found no indication of any hard drive problems.

First step is probably to collect more data to find out whether the
bottleneck is cpu, memory, io or network (although we can probably
eliminate network here).

Try running e.g. "vmstat 10" (its in the "procps" package which you
probably have installed anyway) - this will emit a line every 10
seconds with interesting system information. (As a rule of thumb:
ignore the first sample). Analyzing this can be a bit of a dark art -
it requires a decent understanding of how the kernel works, but not
too bad.  Lots of people on this list should be able to help if they
have that output.

It's also worth having a glance in /var/log/kern.log (usually where
syslog puts the kernel messages) for anything amiss: Misbehaving
hardware can really mess things up.

Hope this helps
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Re: excessive CPU usage

[Gary Dale]

Could be virtuoso or nepomuk. I had similar problems from time to time 
that were traced to one of those two programs.



On 21/09/14 02:54 PM, Gary Roach wrote:

Hi all

For the last few months I have been plagued by very slow response from 
my system. As an example, it takes 2 1/2 minutes to drag and drop 80 
files from my email inbox to the trash bin in icedove. It has taken as 
high as 5 minutes for iceweasel to load. This problem is not just 
these packages but also applies to all of the rest of my programs.


I am using Debian Wheezy with a i5750 4 core processor on a fast Intel 
board. I run a kde desktop. All the software is up to date.


I have checked all of the log files and can't find any anomalies. 
Rebooting doesn't help.


Using the KDE System Monitor (ksysguard) I have noticed that at least 
one of the processors goes to 100% and stays there for long periods 
even though there is no noticeable activity in the process tables. The 
only other thing I have noticed (the printing just hung up while I am 
writing this) is that the hard drive indicator comes on and stays on 
during the processor activity. I ran some checks on the hard drive but 
found no indication of any hard drive problems.


Has anyone else had a similar problem or have any idea what is going on.

Thanks in advance

Gary R.





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Re: excessive CPU usage

[Reco]

 Hi.

On Sun, 21 Sep 2014 11:54:01 -0700
Gary Roach  wrote:

> Has anyone else had a similar problem or have any idea what is going on.

apt-get install iotop.
Run iotop as root once you experience a slowdown.
The process on top of the list is the one which's causing all this mess
on your PC (most probably, as there may be several of them).

Reco


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excessive CPU usage

[Gary Roach]

Hi all

For the last few months I have been plagued by very slow response from 
my system. As an example, it takes 2 1/2 minutes to drag and drop 80 
files from my email inbox to the trash bin in icedove. It has taken as 
high as 5 minutes for iceweasel to load. This problem is not just these 
packages but also applies to all of the rest of my programs.


I am using Debian Wheezy with a i5750 4 core processor on a fast Intel 
board. I run a kde desktop. All the software is up to date.


I have checked all of the log files and can't find any anomalies. 
Rebooting doesn't help.


Using the KDE System Monitor (ksysguard) I have noticed that at least 
one of the processors goes to 100% and stays there for long periods even 
though there is no noticeable activity in the process tables. The only 
other thing I have noticed (the printing just hung up while I am writing 
this) is that the hard drive indicator comes on and stays on during the 
processor activity. I ran some checks on the hard drive but found no 
indication of any hard drive problems.


Has anyone else had a similar problem or have any idea what is going on.

Thanks in advance

Gary R.


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