Re: didn't can use "fdisk"!
On 12/2/23 03:24, fuf wrote: Hello all again. I recently installed Debian-12. Your advises calmed me but will be used it's tomorrow so as now eyes shutting down. Good morning! I began since top of your advices i.e. https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes and reading: "The su command in buster is provided by the util-linux source package, instead of the shadow source package, and no longer alters the PATH variable by default. This means that after doing su, your PATH may not contain directories like /sbin, and many system administration commands will fail. There are several workarounds: Use su - instead; this launches a login shell, which forces PATH to be changed, but also changes everything else including the working directory." It was tried and at once into point!, further I didn't read as fear to tangle. All to luck! --fuf My Debian workstation: 2023-12-02 09:20:20 dpchrist@taz ~ $ cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a 11.8 Linux taz 5.10.0-26-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.197-1 (2023-09-29) x86_64 GNU/Linux How to login as root using su(1): 2023-12-02 09:22:38 dpchrist@taz ~ $ su - Password: 2023-12-02 09:22:47 root@taz ~ # How to list disk partition tables using fdisk(8): 2023-12-02 09:22:47 root@taz ~ # fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 55.9 GiB, 60022480896 bytes, 117231408 sectors Disk model: INTEL SSDSC2CW06 Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: gpt Disk identifier: ***redacted*** DeviceStart End Sectors Size Type /dev/sda1 2048 1953791 1951744 953M EFI System /dev/sda2 1953792 3907583 1953792 954M Linux filesystem /dev/sda3 3907584 5861375 1953792 954M Linux filesystem /dev/sda4 5861376 29298687 23437312 11.2G Linux filesystem /dev/sda5 29298688 117229567 87930880 41.9G Linux filesystem Disk /dev/sdb: 931.51 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors Disk model: TOSHIBA DT01ACA1 Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: ***redacted*** Device Boot StartEndSectors Size Id Type /dev/sdb12048 1953523711 1953521664 931.5G 83 Linux Disk /dev/mapper/sda4_crypt: 11.16 GiB, 11983126528 bytes, 23404544 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk /dev/mapper/sda3_crypt: 954 MiB, 1000341504 bytes, 1953792 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk /dev/mapper/sda5_crypt: 41.91 GiB, 45003833344 bytes, 87898112 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes David
Re: didn't can use "fdisk"!
Hello all again. I recently installed Debian-12. Your advises calmed me but will be used it's tomorrow so as now eyes shutting down. Good morning! I began since top of your advices i.e. https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes and reading: "The su command in buster is provided by the util-linux source package, instead of the shadow source package, and no longer alters the PATH variable by default. This means that after doing su, your PATH may not contain directories like /sbin, and many system administration commands will fail. There are several workarounds: Use su - instead; this launches a login shell, which forces PATH to be changed, but also changes everything else including the working directory." It was tried and at once into point!, further I didn't read as fear to tangle. All to luck! --fuf
Re: didn't can use "fdisk"!
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:46:28PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > My first guess is that you may have done "su" which results in you > not having /sbin in your path. So you need to execute it as > /sbin/fdisk, or "su -", or become root by some other means. At this point, we no longer need to guess. It's immediately clear. Using "su -" is an acceptable solution, though not my preferred one if this is your own system, as opposed to one where you are a "guest admin". I'd rather fix the problem permanently, by putting appropriate content into the /etc/default/su file. unicorn:~$ cat /etc/default/su ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes unicorn:~$ su Password: root@unicorn:/home/greg# declare -p PATH declare -x PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin" root@unicorn:/home/greg#
Re: didn't can use "fdisk"!
Hi, On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:06:58PM +, fuf wrote: > root@debian:/sbin# fdisk -l > bash: fdisk: command not found > > whereas: > root@debian:/sbin# ls -al > . > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 169520 Mar 23 2023 fdisk > > why? My first guess is that you may have done "su" which results in you not having /sbin in your path. So you need to execute it as /sbin/fdisk, or "su -", or become root by some other means. https://sources.debian.org/src/util-linux/2.33.1-0.1/debian/util-linux.NEWS/ https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=833256#80 This has been the case since the release of Debian 10 (buster). If it's not that, please state Debian version, how you became root, and $ ls -la /sbin/fdisk Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
Re: didn't can use "fdisk"!
fuf writes: > Hello all. > I'm embarrassed because didn't can use "fdisk"! > I work as normal user, open the terminal, switch to "root" user but > get: > root@debian:/sbin# fdisk -l > bash: fdisk: command not found > > whereas: > root@debian:/sbin# ls -al > . > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 169520 Mar 23 2023 fdisk It would seem that /sbin isn't in your $PATH. What method did you use to become root? Cheers, Tom
Re: didn't can use "fdisk"!
On Fri, Dec 01, 2023 at 07:06:58PM +, fuf wrote: > I'm embarrassed because didn't can use "fdisk"! > I work as normal user, open the terminal, switch to "root" user but get: > root@debian:/sbin# fdisk -l > bash: fdisk: command not found https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes Or the tl;dr version: echo 'ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes' >> /etc/default/su After this, exit from your root shell, and "su" again, and this time the PATH will be correctly set.
didn't can use "fdisk"!
Hello all. I'm embarrassed because didn't can use "fdisk"! I work as normal user, open the terminal, switch to "root" user but get: root@debian:/sbin# fdisk -l bash: fdisk: command not found whereas: root@debian:/sbin# ls -al . -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root169520 Mar 23 2023 fdisk why? I reinstalled "util-linux" and "fdisk" by "Synaptic" but nothing varied. What is matter?, give me any advice, please. --fuf
Re: hdd partition alignment parted vs fdisk, partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary, parted bug?
I could be an offset defined. Could you post following files? /sys/block/sdd/queue/optimal_io_size /sys/block/sdd/queue/minimum_io_size /sys/block/sdd/alignment_offset /sys/block/sdd/queue/physical_block_size /sys/block/sdd/queue/logical_block_size Toni Mas Missatge de Sergey Spiridonov del dia dc., 4 de des. 2019 a les 13:30: > > Hi all > > I am trying to partition 14TB HDD and get the following problem with an > alignment: > > # hdparam -I /dev/sdd tells that > > Logical Sector size: 512 bytes > Physical Sector size: 4096 bytes > > > # parted -a opt /dev/sdd > > (parted) mkpart primary 0% 100% > ... > > (parted) print > > Number Start End SizeFile system Name Flags > 1 33,6MB 14,0TB 14,0TB primary > > Now checking alignment: > > (parted) align-check opt > 1 1 aligned > > > So far, so good. Now let's look at the same disk with fdisk: > > # fdisk /dev/sdd > > : p > > Disk /dev/sdd: 12,8 TiB, 14000519643136 bytes, 27344764928 sectors > Disk model: IB-366StU3+B > Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 33553920 bytes > Disklabel type: gpt > Disk identifier: 82DD924B-BF0E-40FF-9037-1FD4E7307D26 > > Device Start End Sectors Size Type > /dev/sdd1 65535 27344740889 27344675355 12,8T Linux filesystem > > Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary. > > > What? Why? > > > man parted tells that > >optimal > Use optimum alignment as given by the disk > topology in‐ formation. This aligns to a > multiple of the physical block size in a way that > guarantees optimal performance > > > 1. Probably parted detected physical sector size as 512 > instead of 4096? Why? > > 2. Even if parted thinks that physical sector is 512 instead of > 4096, why start from 65535 and not from 65536? What is the logic > behind? How using odd multiplier can improve performance? > > Is it a bug in parted or I am missing something? > -- > Best regards, Sergey Spiridonov > > >
Re: hdd partition alignment parted vs fdisk, partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary, parted bug?
On Wed 04 Dec 2019 at 13:15:51 (+0100), Sergey Spiridonov wrote: > I am trying to partition 14TB HDD and get the following problem with an > alignment: > > # hdparam -I /dev/sdd tells that > > Logical Sector size: 512 bytes > Physical Sector size: 4096 bytes > > # parted -a opt /dev/sdd > > (parted) mkpart primary 0% 100% > ... > (parted) print > > Number Start End SizeFile system Name Flags > 1 33,6MB 14,0TB 14,0TB primary > > Now checking alignment: > > (parted) align-check opt > 1 1 aligned > > So far, so good. Now let's look at the same disk with fdisk: > > # fdisk /dev/sdd > : p > > Disk /dev/sdd: 12,8 TiB, 14000519643136 bytes, 27344764928 sectors > Disk model: IB-366StU3+B > Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 33553920 bytes > Disklabel type: gpt > Disk identifier: 82DD924B-BF0E-40FF-9037-1FD4E7307D26 > > Device Start End Sectors Size Type > /dev/sdd1 65535 27344740889 27344675355 12,8T Linux filesystem > > Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary. > > What? Why? > man parted tells that > >optimal > Use optimum alignment as given by the disk > topology in‐ formation. This aligns to a > multiple of the physical block size in a way that > guarantees optimal performance > > 1. Probably parted detected physical sector size as 512 > instead of 4096? Why? > > 2. Even if parted thinks that physical sector is 512 instead of > 4096, why start from 65535 and not from 65536? What is the logic > behind? How using odd multiplier can improve performance? > > Is it a bug in parted or I am missing something? Bug #923561 has a long discussion about alignment and optimal transfer size, and it would appear to be a bit of a mess, with no conclusion on the root cause of the problem, how to document it, or which software should deal with it (as best I can understand it). I think the straightforward way of coping with this is to use the "unit s" command (so that sectors are the default unit), and then create the partition with something like: (parted) mkpart primary 2048s 100% ie give an explicit alignment. (I've always used gdisk for creating partitions ever since GPT disks came on the scene, worked in sectors, and relied on gdisk to calculate the last sector number.) Regardless of the partitioning, I see messages like: Optimal transfer size 33553920 bytes not a multiple of physical block size (2048 bytes) Optimal transfer size 33553920 bytes not a multiple of physical block size (4096 bytes) Optimal transfer size 268431360 bytes not a multiple of physical block size (16384 bytes) in the kernel log when I plug some of my disks in. Adding to the mystery, the first two messages quoted here were given by the same 1TB disk. fdisk agrees with 4096 as the physical block size. This leads me to ignore the transfer size, let alone calculate anything from it. Cheers, David.
Re: hdd partition alignment parted vs fdisk, partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary, parted bug?
Le 04/12/2019 à 13:15, Sergey Spiridonov a écrit : Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 33553920 bytes Disklabel type: gpt Disk identifier: 82DD924B-BF0E-40FF-9037-1FD4E7307D26 Device Start End Sectors Size Type /dev/sdd1 65535 27344740889 27344675355 12,8T Linux filesystem Partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary. What? Why? Probably because of the reported "optimal" I/O size. 65535 * 512 = 33553920 Don't know where this value is taken from.
RE: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
USB port mtp Android 4 Linux- Provenance : Courrier<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> pour Windows 10 De : robo...@news.nic.it de la part de Michel Envoyé : Wednesday, December 19, 2018 9:21:21 AM À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp ) Le 19/12/2018 à 07:10, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : > Le 19/12/2018 à 07:03, steve a écrit : >> Le 17-12-2018, à 21:34:02 +0100, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : >> >>> Certains périphériques comme les lecteurs de carte mémoire peuvent >>> aussi être nommés /dev/sd*. Ou un problème lors de l'initialisation >>> d'un disque peut le faire détecter plusieurs fois, avec un nom >>> différent chaque fois. >> >> Oui, tout à fait d'accord. Mais comme il ne parlait que d'un seul disque >> (sans préciser l'existence d'autres types de cartes mémoire), je ne >> voyais pas vraiment comment c'était possible. > > Pas besoin qu'une carte mémoire soit insérée, il suffit que le lecteur > soit présent, comme les lecteurs intégrés aux ordinateurs connectés via > un port USB interne. > l'OP parlait d'une imprimante allumée ou éteinte durant le boot, et certaines imprimantes disposent d'un lecteur de cartes SD intégré qui peut provoquer ce type d'effet de bord. Michel
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le 19/12/2018 à 07:10, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : > Le 19/12/2018 à 07:03, steve a écrit : >> Le 17-12-2018, à 21:34:02 +0100, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : >> >>> Certains périphériques comme les lecteurs de carte mémoire peuvent >>> aussi être nommés /dev/sd*. Ou un problème lors de l'initialisation >>> d'un disque peut le faire détecter plusieurs fois, avec un nom >>> différent chaque fois. >> >> Oui, tout à fait d'accord. Mais comme il ne parlait que d'un seul disque >> (sans préciser l'existence d'autres types de cartes mémoire), je ne >> voyais pas vraiment comment c'était possible. > > Pas besoin qu'une carte mémoire soit insérée, il suffit que le lecteur > soit présent, comme les lecteurs intégrés aux ordinateurs connectés via > un port USB interne. > l'OP parlait d'une imprimante allumée ou éteinte durant le boot, et certaines imprimantes disposent d'un lecteur de cartes SD intégré qui peut provoquer ce type d'effet de bord. Michel
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le 19/12/2018 à 07:03, steve a écrit : Le 17-12-2018, à 21:34:02 +0100, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Certains périphériques comme les lecteurs de carte mémoire peuvent aussi être nommés /dev/sd*. Ou un problème lors de l'initialisation d'un disque peut le faire détecter plusieurs fois, avec un nom différent chaque fois. Oui, tout à fait d'accord. Mais comme il ne parlait que d'un seul disque (sans préciser l'existence d'autres types de cartes mémoire), je ne voyais pas vraiment comment c'était possible. Pas besoin qu'une carte mémoire soit insérée, il suffit que le lecteur soit présent, comme les lecteurs intégrés aux ordinateurs connectés via un port USB interne.
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le 17-12-2018, à 21:34:02 +0100, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Le 17/12/2018 à 15:47, steve a écrit : Le 17-12-2018, à 15:01:42 +0100, infos SX a écrit : Lorsque je fais un reboot, une fois sur deux il devient /dev/sdc et l'autre fois, /dev/sda. Difficile de croire que ça soit possible vu qu'il n'y a qu'un seul disque. Certains périphériques comme les lecteurs de carte mémoire peuvent aussi être nommés /dev/sd*. Ou un problème lors de l'initialisation d'un disque peut le faire détecter plusieurs fois, avec un nom différent chaque fois. Oui, tout à fait d'accord. Mais comme il ne parlait que d'un seul disque (sans préciser l'existence d'autres types de cartes mémoire), je ne voyais pas vraiment comment c'était possible.
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le 17-12-2018, à 21:53:19 +0100, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Le 17/12/2018 à 17:25, steve a écrit : Le 17-12-2018, à 17:16:35 +0100, ajh-valmer a écrit : /dev/disk# ls -l by-label/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda1 -> ../../sda1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda2 -> ../../sda2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda5 -> ../../sda5 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda6 -> ../../sda6 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda7 -> ../../sda7 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 swap -> ../../sda3 C'est une très mauvaise idée de donner des noms de périphériques non persistants comme étiquettes de système de fichiers. Quand ça ne se passe pas comme tu veux, l'étiquette "sda1" se retrouve sur /dev/sdc1. Pas génial pour la clarté. Une étiquette devrait être représentative du contenu, pas de la position du contenant. Comme le titre d'un livre : aurait-on l'idée de nommer un livre à partir de sa position sur l'étagère et de la position de l'étagère dans la bibliothèque ? Tout à fait d'accord. J'ai fait un mauvais copié-collé dans ce message. Correct est: $ pwd /dev/disk/by-label $ ll -l total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc 14 21:40 BOOT -> ../../sda1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 déc 14 21:40 HOME -> ../../md1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc 14 21:40 RACINE -> ../../sda5 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc 14 21:40 TMP -> ../../sda7 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc 14 21:40 USR -> ../../sda6 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 déc 14 21:40 VAR -> ../../md0 D'accord, l'UUID ne change pas, donc pas bien grave, ça n'empêche pas le système de bien fonctionner, mais je préférerais que le DD = /dev/sda et s'y tienne. Pas sûr que ça soit possible, mais clairement non recommendable. Peut-être qu'avec une règle udev tu pourrais y parvenir. Non, pas possible. On ne peut renommer que les interfaces réseau. Si les labels et UUID ne conviennent pas, au mieux on peut créer des liens symboliques (alias) persistants qui pointent vers les noms de périphériques canoniques. C'est ce que fait implicitement LVM avec les noms de volumes logiques. Merci pour la précision.
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le 17/12/2018 à 17:25, steve a écrit : Le 17-12-2018, à 17:16:35 +0100, ajh-valmer a écrit : /dev/disk# ls -l by-label/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda1 -> ../../sda1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda2 -> ../../sda2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda5 -> ../../sda5 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda6 -> ../../sda6 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda7 -> ../../sda7 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 swap -> ../../sda3 C'est une très mauvaise idée de donner des noms de périphériques non persistants comme étiquettes de système de fichiers. Quand ça ne se passe pas comme tu veux, l'étiquette "sda1" se retrouve sur /dev/sdc1. Pas génial pour la clarté. Une étiquette devrait être représentative du contenu, pas de la position du contenant. Comme le titre d'un livre : aurait-on l'idée de nommer un livre à partir de sa position sur l'étagère et de la position de l'étagère dans la bibliothèque ? D'accord, l'UUID ne change pas, donc pas bien grave, ça n'empêche pas le système de bien fonctionner, mais je préférerais que le DD = /dev/sda et s'y tienne. Pas sûr que ça soit possible, mais clairement non recommendable. Peut-être qu'avec une règle udev tu pourrais y parvenir. Non, pas possible. On ne peut renommer que les interfaces réseau. Si les labels et UUID ne conviennent pas, au mieux on peut créer des liens symboliques (alias) persistants qui pointent vers les noms de périphériques canoniques. C'est ce que fait implicitement LVM avec les noms de volumes logiques.
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le 17/12/2018 à 16:01, Haricophile a écrit : Tant qu'on était avec une connexion parallèle fixe (PATA), l'ordre des disques était fixes donc une config /dev/sda est robuste. Même pas. Le nommage /dev/sd* utilisé par les pilotes PATA et SATA basés sur libata est basé sur l'ordre d'énumération. Pour retrouver un nommage déterministe, il faut remonter aux pilotes IDE qui les ont précédés (qui ne sont plus activés dans les noyaux Debian depuis belle lurette) avec un nommage /dev/hd* basé sur la position physique : - hda maître primaire - hdb esclave primaire - hdc maître secondaire - hdd esclabe secondaire Dès qu'on passe a du série (SATA) et SURTOUT quand ça devient plug'n play comme USB, là c'est une autre paire de manche... Le passage au bus série n'a strictement rien à voir là-dedans.
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le 17/12/2018 à 15:47, steve a écrit : Le 17-12-2018, à 15:01:42 +0100, infos SX a écrit : Lorsque je fais un reboot, une fois sur deux il devient /dev/sdc et l'autre fois, /dev/sda. Difficile de croire que ça soit possible vu qu'il n'y a qu'un seul disque. Certains périphériques comme les lecteurs de carte mémoire peuvent aussi être nommés /dev/sd*. Ou un problème lors de l'initialisation d'un disque peut le faire détecter plusieurs fois, avec un nom différent chaque fois.
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le Mon, 17 Dec 2018 15:47:45 +0100, steve a écrit : > Difficile de croire que ça soit possible vu qu'il n'y a qu'un seul > disque. Moi je le crois très bien pour une imprimante connectée en USB qui se ferait passer pour un stockage de masse. Tant qu'on était avec une connexion parallèle fixe (PATA), l'ordre des disques était fixes donc une config /dev/sda est robuste. Dès qu'on passe a du série (SATA) et SURTOUT quand ça devient plug'n play comme USB, là c'est une autre paire de manche... D'où l'intérêt dans du matériel moderne d'utiliser toujours l'UUID ou le label (attention aux doublons pour le label).
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le 17-12-2018, à 17:55:45 +0100, ajh-valmer a écrit : Je posterai le résultat dès le prochaine reboot, il y a la console KVM et l'USB, Quand on aura tout dit :) qui peuvent prendre respectivement le nommage /dev/sda et /dev/sdb, donc disque dur = /dev/sdc. Ceci doit dépendre si KVM est lancé ou pas. KVM a besoin de l'USB. Reboot : KVM pas lancé : DD = /dev/sda KVM lancé : DD = /dev/sdc Alors c'est parfait, on a retrouvé nos petits.
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
> Le 17-12-2018, à 17:16:35 +0100, ajh-valmer a écrit : > >/dev/disk# ls -l by-label/ > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda1 -> ../../sda1 > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda2 -> ../../sda2 > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda5 -> ../../sda5 > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda6 -> ../../sda6 > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda7 -> ../../sda7 > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 swap -> ../../sda3 > >D'accord, l'UUID ne change pas, donc pas bien grave, > >ça n'empêche pas le système de bien fonctionner, > >mais je préférerais que le DD = /dev/sda et s'y tienne. > On Monday 17 December 2018 17:25:52 steve wrote: > Si c'est vraiment le cas, je serais vraiment intéressé d'en connaître la > raison. Et pourquoi sdc et pas sdb ou sdk par exemple ? > Pas sûr que ça soit possible, mais clairement non recommendable. > Peut-être qu'avec une règle udev tu pourrais y parvenir. J'ai > personnellement laissé tomber après avoir lu et relu que c'était perdu > d'avance (by design). Je posterai le résultat dès le prochaine reboot, il y a la console KVM et l'USB, qui peuvent prendre respectivement le nommage /dev/sda et /dev/sdb, donc disque dur = /dev/sdc. Ceci doit dépendre si KVM est lancé ou pas. KVM a besoin de l'USB. Reboot : KVM pas lancé : DD = /dev/sda KVM lancé : DD = /dev/sdc A. Valmer
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le lun. 17 déc. 2018 à 17:26, steve a écrit : > > Le 17-12-2018, à 17:16:35 +0100, ajh-valmer a écrit : > > >> Le 17-12-2018, à 15:01:42 +0100, A. Valmer a écrit : > >> > C'est ce que j'ai fait sur un serveur avec un seul disque dur. > >> >UUID et /dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part, > >> > Lorsque je fais un reboot, une fois sur deux il devient /dev/sdc > >> > et l'autre fois, /dev/sda. > > > >On Monday 17 December 2018 15:47:45 steve wrote: > >> Difficile de croire que ça soit possible vu qu'il n'y a qu'un seul > >> disque. Et même si c'était bien le cas, ce ne serait pas grave vu que > >> tu as utilisé le UUID et que le nom (aléatoire) du disque n'est pas > >> utilisé pour monter la partition. > > > >Si, c'est la réalité. > > > >/dev/disk# ls -l by-label/ > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda1 -> ../../sda1 > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda2 -> ../../sda2 > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda5 -> ../../sda5 > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda6 -> ../../sda6 > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda7 -> ../../sda7 > >lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 swap -> ../../sda3 > > > >Ici, impeccable et au prochain reboot, j'aurai ces lignes, > >mais, avec ../../sdc. > > Si c'est vraiment le cas, je serais vraiment intéressé d'en connaître la > raison. Et pourquoi sdc et pas sdb ou sdk par exemple ? > > >D'accord, l'UUID ne change pas, donc pas bien grave, > >ça n'empêche pas le système de bien fonctionner, > >mais je préférerais que le DD = /dev/sda et s'y tienne. > > Pas sûr que ça soit possible, mais clairement non recommendable. > Peut-être qu'avec une règle udev tu pourrais y parvenir. J'ai > personnellement laissé tomber après avoir lu et relu que c'était perdu > d'avance (by design). > > >Bonne soirée. > > De même. > J'ai eu ce cas sur un desktop à cause d'un lecteur de carte devenu capricieux : => s'il marchait bien, il enfonçait les HDD en termes de temps d'initialisation, donc les 4 devices correspondant aux lecteurs de carte étaient énumérés /dev/sda ... /dev/sdd, et les HDD /dev/sde et /dev/sdf => s'il "ratait" au démarrage, les HDD se retrouvaient premiers énumérés et donc reconnus comme /dev/sda et /dev/sdb Les clefs USB peuvent éventuellement avoir cet effet aussi... Pour savoir pourquoi il suffit peut-être de lister les /dev/sd* et de voir /dev/disk/by-label et /dev/disk/by-uuid pour voir qui "est devant" ... Quoi qu'il en soit, compter sur ces noms de device bruts n'a jamais été vraiment fiable (sachant que le matériel ou le bios introduisent dans certains cas de l'aléa dans les temps de réponse pour éviter les collisions entre périphériques sur un bus...), et les distributions ont donc cessé de compter dessus. Cordialement __ Éric Dégenètais Henix http://www.henix.com http://www.squashtest.org
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le 17-12-2018, à 17:16:35 +0100, ajh-valmer a écrit : Le 17-12-2018, à 15:01:42 +0100, A. Valmer a écrit : > C'est ce que j'ai fait sur un serveur avec un seul disque dur. >UUID et /dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part, > Lorsque je fais un reboot, une fois sur deux il devient /dev/sdc > et l'autre fois, /dev/sda. On Monday 17 December 2018 15:47:45 steve wrote: Difficile de croire que ça soit possible vu qu'il n'y a qu'un seul disque. Et même si c'était bien le cas, ce ne serait pas grave vu que tu as utilisé le UUID et que le nom (aléatoire) du disque n'est pas utilisé pour monter la partition. Si, c'est la réalité. /dev/disk# ls -l by-label/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda1 -> ../../sda1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda2 -> ../../sda2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda5 -> ../../sda5 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda6 -> ../../sda6 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda7 -> ../../sda7 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 swap -> ../../sda3 Ici, impeccable et au prochain reboot, j'aurai ces lignes, mais, avec ../../sdc. Si c'est vraiment le cas, je serais vraiment intéressé d'en connaître la raison. Et pourquoi sdc et pas sdb ou sdk par exemple ? D'accord, l'UUID ne change pas, donc pas bien grave, ça n'empêche pas le système de bien fonctionner, mais je préférerais que le DD = /dev/sda et s'y tienne. Pas sûr que ça soit possible, mais clairement non recommendable. Peut-être qu'avec une règle udev tu pourrais y parvenir. J'ai personnellement laissé tomber après avoir lu et relu que c'était perdu d'avance (by design). Bonne soirée. De même.
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
> Le 17-12-2018, à 15:01:42 +0100, A. Valmer a écrit : > > C'est ce que j'ai fait sur un serveur avec un seul disque dur. > >UUID et /dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part, > > Lorsque je fais un reboot, une fois sur deux il devient /dev/sdc > > et l'autre fois, /dev/sda. On Monday 17 December 2018 15:47:45 steve wrote: > Difficile de croire que ça soit possible vu qu'il n'y a qu'un seul > disque. Et même si c'était bien le cas, ce ne serait pas grave vu que > tu as utilisé le UUID et que le nom (aléatoire) du disque n'est pas > utilisé pour monter la partition. Si, c'est la réalité. /dev/disk# ls -l by-label/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda1 -> ../../sda1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda2 -> ../../sda2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda5 -> ../../sda5 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda6 -> ../../sda6 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 sda7 -> ../../sda7 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc. 15 00:45 swap -> ../../sda3 Ici, impeccable et au prochain reboot, j'aurai ces lignes, mais, avec ../../sdc. D'accord, l'UUID ne change pas, donc pas bien grave, ça n'empêche pas le système de bien fonctionner, mais je préférerais que le DD = /dev/sda et s'y tienne. C'est juste pour comprendre pourquoi ce changement ? : sans doute la console KVM qui peut prendre le nommage /dev/sda lorsqu'elle est lancée. Je ferai un test pour voir. Bonne soirée.
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le lun. 17 déc. 2018 à 15:48, steve a écrit : > Le 17-12-2018, à 15:01:42 +0100, infos SX a écrit : > > >On Monday 17 December 2018 14:47:03 Eric Degenetais wrote: > >> > certains ne sont plus reconnus et d'autres décalés d'une lettre . > > > >> ça vient peut-être d'un certain manque de robustesse de la > configuration : > >> si je comprends bien la configuration utilise des device names du type > >> /dev/sda1, dev/sda2, /dev/sdb ... > >> Or ces lettres dépendent de l'ordre dans lequel les périphériques > répondent > >> lors de leur énumération, ordre dont la stabilité n'est pas (n'a jamais > >> été) garantie. > >> Il est aujourd'hui recommandé de référencer les périphériques > >> - soit par l'UUID de la partition (ce que font normalement les > >> installeurs, mais il faut le faire soi-même si c'est une migration) > >> soit par un 'label' descriptif (/dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part) créé > >> avec les outils de gestion de FS (un peu plus de travail, mais a > >> l'avantage d'être immédiatement lisible) > > > >C'est ce que j'ai fait sur un serveur avec un seul disque dur. > >UUID et /dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part, > > > >Lorsque je fais un reboot, une fois sur deux il devient /dev/sdc > >et l'autre fois, /dev/sda. > > Difficile de croire que ça soit possible vu qu'il n'y a qu'un seul > disque. Et même si c'était bien le cas, ce ne serait pas grave vu que > tu as utilisé le UUID et que le nom (aléatoire) du disque n'est pas > utilisé pour monter la partition. > > >/dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part : > >je n'ai pas ce fichier "my_data_part". > > Sauf erreur, il n'y a pas de fichier nommé ainsi. Ici par exemple, j'ai > > Coquille de ma part, j'avais l'intention d'écrire (EXEMPLE : /dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part). L'outil d'installation peut créer des labels, ou bien on peut les créer manuellement. Il n'y a pas de contenu standard à /dev/disk/by-label à ma connaissance, ce sont des étiquettes descriptives créées à la demande de l'utilisateur (qu'on peut aussi ajouter a posteriori avec les outils de manipulation de filesystem). > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc 14 21:40 BOOT -> ../../sda1 > > et > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc 14 21:40 > 3148652c-4040-4348-9022-22250d497fcd -> ../../sda1 > > où BOOT est le nom de l'étiquette de /dev/sda1 et > 3148652c-4040-4348-9022-22250d497fcd son uuid. > > > __ Éric Dégenètais Henix http://www.henix.com http://www.squashtest.org
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le 17-12-2018, à 15:01:42 +0100, infos SX a écrit : On Monday 17 December 2018 14:47:03 Eric Degenetais wrote: > certains ne sont plus reconnus et d'autres décalés d'une lettre . ça vient peut-être d'un certain manque de robustesse de la configuration : si je comprends bien la configuration utilise des device names du type /dev/sda1, dev/sda2, /dev/sdb ... Or ces lettres dépendent de l'ordre dans lequel les périphériques répondent lors de leur énumération, ordre dont la stabilité n'est pas (n'a jamais été) garantie. Il est aujourd'hui recommandé de référencer les périphériques - soit par l'UUID de la partition (ce que font normalement les installeurs, mais il faut le faire soi-même si c'est une migration) soit par un 'label' descriptif (/dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part) créé avec les outils de gestion de FS (un peu plus de travail, mais a l'avantage d'être immédiatement lisible) C'est ce que j'ai fait sur un serveur avec un seul disque dur. UUID et /dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part, Lorsque je fais un reboot, une fois sur deux il devient /dev/sdc et l'autre fois, /dev/sda. Difficile de croire que ça soit possible vu qu'il n'y a qu'un seul disque. Et même si c'était bien le cas, ce ne serait pas grave vu que tu as utilisé le UUID et que le nom (aléatoire) du disque n'est pas utilisé pour monter la partition. /dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part : je n'ai pas ce fichier "my_data_part". Sauf erreur, il n'y a pas de fichier nommé ainsi. Ici par exemple, j'ai lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc 14 21:40 BOOT -> ../../sda1 et lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 déc 14 21:40 3148652c-4040-4348-9022-22250d497fcd -> ../../sda1 où BOOT est le nom de l'étiquette de /dev/sda1 et 3148652c-4040-4348-9022-22250d497fcd son uuid.
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le lun. 17 déc. 2018 à 15:27, infos SX a écrit : > > On Monday 17 December 2018 14:47:03 Eric Degenetais wrote: > > > certains ne sont plus reconnus et d'autres décalés d'une lettre . > > > ça vient peut-être d'un certain manque de robustesse de la configuration : > > si je comprends bien la configuration utilise des device names du type > > /dev/sda1, dev/sda2, /dev/sdb ... > > Or ces lettres dépendent de l'ordre dans lequel les périphériques répondent > > lors de leur énumération, ordre dont la stabilité n'est pas (n'a jamais > > été) garantie. > > Il est aujourd'hui recommandé de référencer les périphériques > > - soit par l'UUID de la partition (ce que font normalement les > > installeurs, mais il faut le faire soi-même si c'est une migration) > > soit par un 'label' descriptif (/dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part) créé > > avec les outils de gestion de FS (un peu plus de travail, mais a > > l'avantage d'être immédiatement lisible) > > C'est ce que j'ai fait sur un serveur avec un seul disque dur. > UUID et /dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part, > Identifier par UUDI n'empêche pas que la lettre change. Simplement, comme on n'utilise pas la lettre pour référencer la partition, on se fiche qu'elle change. > Lorsque je fais un reboot, une fois sur deux il devient /dev/sdc > et l'autre fois, /dev/sda. > l'identificatio > /dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part : > je n'ai pas ce fichier "my_data_part". Ce n'est peut-être pas évident dans mon message précédent, mais : > > soit par un 'label' descriptif (/dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part) créé > > avec les outils de gestion de FS (un peu plus de travail, mais a > > l'avantage d'être immédiatement lisible) indique que c'est manuel. > A. V. > Cordialement. __ Éric Dégenètais Henix http://www.henix.com http://www.squashtest.org
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
On Monday 17 December 2018 14:47:03 Eric Degenetais wrote: > > certains ne sont plus reconnus et d'autres décalés d'une lettre . > ça vient peut-être d'un certain manque de robustesse de la configuration : > si je comprends bien la configuration utilise des device names du type > /dev/sda1, dev/sda2, /dev/sdb ... > Or ces lettres dépendent de l'ordre dans lequel les périphériques répondent > lors de leur énumération, ordre dont la stabilité n'est pas (n'a jamais > été) garantie. > Il est aujourd'hui recommandé de référencer les périphériques > - soit par l'UUID de la partition (ce que font normalement les > installeurs, mais il faut le faire soi-même si c'est une migration) > soit par un 'label' descriptif (/dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part) créé > avec les outils de gestion de FS (un peu plus de travail, mais a > l'avantage d'être immédiatement lisible) C'est ce que j'ai fait sur un serveur avec un seul disque dur. UUID et /dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part, Lorsque je fais un reboot, une fois sur deux il devient /dev/sdc et l'autre fois, /dev/sda. /dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part : je n'ai pas ce fichier "my_data_part". A. V.
Re: souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
Le lun. 17 déc. 2018 à 13:45, alain-buster a écrit : > bonjour , je rencontre un souci avec mon imprimante usb HP ENVY 5536 . > > je ne sais à quel(s) paquet se rapporte le souci : > > description : > > 1) j'allume l'imprimante > > 2) j'allume le pc > > 3) arrivé sous testing , les disques sont tous mélangés . > > certains ne sont plus reconnus et d'autres décalés d'une lettre . > bonjour, ça vient peut-être d'un certain manque de robustesse de la configuration : si je comprends bien la configuration utilise des device names du type /dev/sda1, dev/sda2, /dev/sdb ... Or ces lettres dépendent de l'ordre dans lequel les périphériques répondent lors de leur énumération, ordre dont la stabilité n'est pas (n'a jamais été) garantie. Il est aujourd'hui recommandé de référencer les périphériques - soit par l'UUID de la partition (ce que font normalement les installeurs, mais il faut le faire soi-même si c'est une migration) - soit par un 'label' descriptif (/dev/disk/by-label/my_data_part) créé avec les outils de gestion de FS (un peu plus de travail, mais a l'avantage d'être immédiatement lisible) > fdisk -l se mélange les pinceaux. > Ce qui sera évité avec la technique ci-dessus. > > deuxième cas de figure : > > 1) j'allume le pc > > 2) j'allume l'imprimante > > 3) pas de souci . tout fonctionne parfaitement . > > aucun disque ne disparait , tous sont reconnus dans l'ordre. > > En ce qui concerne les disques qui "disparaissent", il faudrait vérifier s'ils sont intégralement "non-reconnus" ou simplement changés d'identifiants. > je me suis bien exprimé ? besoin d' éclaircissements ? > > je me tiens à votre disposition . > > je ne sais ni quand , ni où , ni comment poster ??? > > merci > > alain > > alain_bel...@bbox.fr > > __ Éric Dégenètais Henix http://www.henix.com http://www.squashtest.org
souci imprimante usb (fdisk -l , hddtemp )
bonjour , je rencontre un souci avec mon imprimante usb HP ENVY 5536 . je ne sais à quel(s) paquet se rapporte le souci : description : 1) j'allume l'imprimante 2) j'allume le pc 3) arrivé sous testing , les disques sont tous mélangés . certains ne sont plus reconnus et d'autres décalés d'une lettre . fdisk -l se mélange les pinceaux. deuxième cas de figure : 1) j'allume le pc 2) j'allume l'imprimante 3) pas de souci . tout fonctionne parfaitement . aucun disque ne disparait , tous sont reconnus dans l'ordre. je me suis bien exprimé ? besoin d' éclaircissements ? je me tiens à votre disposition . je ne sais ni quand , ni où , ni comment poster ??? merci alain alain_bel...@bbox.fr
Re: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
Merci à vous! Ca sent le petit bloc-note avec tous ces raccourcis :) Sinon à propos des touches pgup+pgdown, on a un portable avec une touche "fonction" + flèches pour les activer... je me méfie des histoires de compatibilité ? En me disant que ce n'est pas une touche "physique"... Bref, il y a plusieurs moyens d'arriver à se déplacer dans cet écran, c'est top ! Le 06/01/2018 à 13:49, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : > Bonjour, > > > Le samedi 06 janvier 2018, Pierre L. a écrit... > > >> @Michel, je testerai "shift + pgdwn ou pgup". >> Mais je vais quand même garder le "less" en mémoire, des claviers >> d'ordis portables n'ayant pas ces 2 touches physiques... > Tu peux faire défiler le texte avec les touches 'j' et 'k', mais également > 'Ctrl-n' et 'Ctrl-p' et par "page" avec 'Ctrl-B' et 'Ctrl-F'. > Pour aller tout en haut : gg > Tout en bas : G > L'aide : h > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
Bonjour, Le samedi 06 janvier 2018, Pierre L. a écrit... > @Michel, je testerai "shift + pgdwn ou pgup". > Mais je vais quand même garder le "less" en mémoire, des claviers > d'ordis portables n'ayant pas ces 2 touches physiques... Tu peux faire défiler le texte avec les touches 'j' et 'k', mais également 'Ctrl-n' et 'Ctrl-p' et par "page" avec 'Ctrl-B' et 'Ctrl-F'. Pour aller tout en haut : gg Tout en bas : G L'aide : h -- jm
Re: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
Le 06/01/2018 à 09:11, Pierre L. a écrit : > Merci à tous pour votre aide ! > "less" a l'ai assez sympa dans ce cas, avec la touche "q" pour en sortir... > La navigation est un peu déroutante au début, j'ai l'impression qu'il > n'y a pas moyen de remonter une fois dans le bas ? On peut descendre et remonter d'une ligne a la fois avec les fleches bas et haut. On peut descendre et remonter d'une hauteur d'écran a la fois avec les touches "page down" et "page up". On peut aller tout a la fin ou tout au début avec les touches "fin de page" et "debut de page". Tout cela fonctionne meme quand on a atteint la fin. > @Michel, je testerai "shift + pgdwn ou pgup". Chez moi ca marche, mais sur un nombre de lignes moins grand que ne sait le faire less. > Mais je vais quand même garder le "less" en mémoire, des claviers > d'ordis portables n'ayant pas ces 2 touches physiques... Tous les ordis portables que j'ai eus ont ces touches. PS : si tu veux voir la sortie d'une commande, tu la renvoie sur less avec le pipe. Si tu veux voir un fichier, pas la peine de faire cat lefichier.txt | less tu peux faire directement less lefichier.txt
Re: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
Merci à tous pour votre aide ! "less" a l'ai assez sympa dans ce cas, avec la touche "q" pour en sortir... La navigation est un peu déroutante au début, j'ai l'impression qu'il n'y a pas moyen de remonter une fois dans le bas ? A voir ce que ca va donner sur la machine en question ;) @Michel, je testerai "shift + pgdwn ou pgup". Mais je vais quand même garder le "less" en mémoire, des claviers d'ordis portables n'ayant pas ces 2 touches physiques... Merci à vous signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
Le 05/01/2018 à 12:35, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : serait il possible d'employer cfdisk ? illustrations : http://manual.aptosid.com/fr/part-cfdisk-fr.htm slt bernard Cela faisait longtemps que je n'avais pas regardé "cfdisk", l'interface à bien progressée, l'affichage des UUID est pratique. Mais attention, tel quel les actions sont possibles, donc risque de modification des partitions par rapport à "fdisk -l".
Re: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
Le 05/01/2018 à 11:46, Pierre L. a écrit : Bonjour, En mode console, est-il possible d'avoir une option qui permette d'avoir une "liste déroulante", plutôt que d'avoir le résultat d'une commande qui défile d'un coup à l'écran ? Clavier/écran directement branchés sur la machine. Je tente de m'expliquer car probablement assez peu clair (d'ailleurs je ne vois pas comment trouver l'info, car quel mot clé utiliser ?!) : - la commande fdisk affiche toutes les partitions reconnues par le système (si je ne me trompe pas). Dans mon cas, seule la fin est lisible, pas moyen de remonter... Certes via ssh il est possible d'avoir un ascenseur dans une interface type XFCE, mais en local directement sur la console de la machine, est-ce possible ? En vous remerciant par avance, Et au passage les bons voeux à la liste :) J'ai découvert "most" : apt-get install most. fdisk -l | most L'aide en ligne indique qu'il faut appuyer sur "Q" pour quitter et "H" pour l'aide. Cela permet de monter et descendre. Pour avoir les pages de manuel en couleur, dans mon ".bashrc" : PAGER=most export PAGER
Re: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
Le 05/01/2018 à 12:30, daniel huhardeaux a écrit : > Le 05/01/2018 à 11:46, Pierre L. a écrit : >> Bonjour, > > Bonjour > >> >> En mode console, est-il possible d'avoir une option qui permette d'avoir >> une "liste déroulante", plutôt que d'avoir le résultat d'une commande >> qui défile d'un coup à l'écran ? > more > > Ex: ls -al|more > > [...] > shift + pgdwn ou pgup ?
Re: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
Le 05/01/2018 à 12:29, Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : > daniel huhardeauxwrites: >> more > less est préférable car on peut défiler dans les deux sens. Petit dicton : il faut arriver a se convaincre que "less is better than more".
Re: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
Le 05/01/2018 à 12:20, Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : > "Pierre L." <pet...@miosweb.mooo.com> writes: >> En mode console, est-il possible d'avoir une option qui permette d'avoir >> une "liste déroulante", plutôt que d'avoir le résultat d'une commande >> qui défile d'un coup à l'écran ? >> Clavier/écran directement branchés sur la machine. > Piper dans less : > fdisk -l | less Ne jamais dire "less" a un débutant sans lui dire que pour en sortir ensuite c'est la touche "q". C'est pareil quand on dit "RTFM" d'ailleurs.
Re: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
- Mail original - > De: "Pierre L." <pet...@miosweb.mooo.com> > À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org > Envoyé: Vendredi 5 Janvier 2018 11:46:09 > Objet: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ? > > Bonjour, > > En mode console, est-il possible d'avoir une option qui permette > d'avoir > une "liste déroulante", plutôt que d'avoir le résultat d'une commande > qui défile d'un coup à l'écran ? > Clavier/écran directement branchés sur la machine. > > Je tente de m'expliquer car probablement assez peu clair (d'ailleurs > je > ne vois pas comment trouver l'info, car quel mot clé utiliser ?!) : > - la commande fdisk affiche toutes les partitions reconnues par le > système (si je ne me trompe pas). Dans mon cas, seule la fin est > lisible, pas moyen de remonter... > Certes via ssh il est possible d'avoir un ascenseur dans une > interface > type XFCE, mais en local directement sur la console de la machine, > est-ce possible ? > > En vous remerciant par avance, > > Et au passage les bons voeux à la liste :) > > bonjour, serait il possible d'employer cfdisk ? illustrations : http://manual.aptosid.com/fr/part-cfdisk-fr.htm slt bernard
Re: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
daniel huhardeauxwrites: > more less est préférable car on peut défiler dans les deux sens. -- Raphaël POITEVIN
Re: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
Le 05/01/2018 à 11:46, Pierre L. a écrit : Bonjour, Bonjour En mode console, est-il possible d'avoir une option qui permette d'avoir une "liste déroulante", plutôt que d'avoir le résultat d'une commande qui défile d'un coup à l'écran ? more Ex: ls -al|more [...] -- Daniel
Re: fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
"Pierre L." <pet...@miosweb.mooo.com> writes: > En mode console, est-il possible d'avoir une option qui permette d'avoir > une "liste déroulante", plutôt que d'avoir le résultat d'une commande > qui défile d'un coup à l'écran ? > Clavier/écran directement branchés sur la machine. Piper dans less : fdisk -l | less -- Raphaël
fdisk via console locale, défilement manuel ?
Bonjour, En mode console, est-il possible d'avoir une option qui permette d'avoir une "liste déroulante", plutôt que d'avoir le résultat d'une commande qui défile d'un coup à l'écran ? Clavier/écran directement branchés sur la machine. Je tente de m'expliquer car probablement assez peu clair (d'ailleurs je ne vois pas comment trouver l'info, car quel mot clé utiliser ?!) : - la commande fdisk affiche toutes les partitions reconnues par le système (si je ne me trompe pas). Dans mon cas, seule la fin est lisible, pas moyen de remonter... Certes via ssh il est possible d'avoir un ascenseur dans une interface type XFCE, mais en local directement sur la console de la machine, est-ce possible ? En vous remerciant par avance, Et au passage les bons voeux à la liste :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Fdisk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 08:15:27PM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 20/01/2017 à 11:11, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > > >>On 01/20/2017 11:54 AM, Gokan Atmaca wrote: > >>>Pre: > >>>root@debian:/home/gokan# fdisk -l > >>> > >>>Disk /dev/sda:[b] 40 GiB[/b], 42949672960 bytes, 83886080 sectors > (...) > >>>Post: > >>>root@debian:/home/gokan# fdisk -l > >>> > >>>Disk /dev/sda:[b] 50 GiB[/b], 53687091200 bytes, 104857600 sectors > (...) > >>>How can I grow this disc? > > You just did. The disk size is now 50 GiB. > Do not confuse disk, partition and filesystem. > > > (3) you could try to add your new space to your existing root > > partition (sda1). Problem is, the swap is on the way. So > > first disable swap, remove swap partition (as in (2)), delete > > swap partition (fdisk), enlarge sda1 (still fdisk), re-create > > swap at the end (still fdisk). When finished, and all is > > well, then you can resize your file system (resize2fs). Note > > that root can't be mounted read/write for that. > > Why not ? ext4 supports online growing. You're right: only shrinking has to be done off-line these days. Sorry for the confusion. regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAliDFE8ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYFGwCeJhjxoy3LlVHhlm5+5cHXIEKI FRMAn1GePzsYDhw6OUE/A30avXn9LU9k =ROyC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Fdisk
Le 20/01/2017 à 12:41, Gokan Atmaca a écrit : Yeah, he's working right now. I've erased all the available parts. (Disk) I did not write the configuration. (W) Then I created a new primary partition and gave default values. Then I ran "resize2fs". Of course, I recreated the deleted swap partition with "dd". That's it ... dd does not create partitions. Didn't you create a swap file instead ?
Re: Fdisk
Le 20/01/2017 à 11:11, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : On 01/20/2017 11:54 AM, Gokan Atmaca wrote: Pre: root@debian:/home/gokan# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda:[b] 40 GiB[/b], 42949672960 bytes, 83886080 sectors (...) Post: root@debian:/home/gokan# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda:[b] 50 GiB[/b], 53687091200 bytes, 104857600 sectors (...) How can I grow this disc? You just did. The disk size is now 50 GiB. Do not confuse disk, partition and filesystem. (3) you could try to add your new space to your existing root partition (sda1). Problem is, the swap is on the way. So first disable swap, remove swap partition (as in (2)), delete swap partition (fdisk), enlarge sda1 (still fdisk), re-create swap at the end (still fdisk). When finished, and all is well, then you can resize your file system (resize2fs). Note that root can't be mounted read/write for that. Why not ? ext4 supports online growing. Note : fdisk is not the best tool for such operation. It does not allow to directly resize partitions ; you must delete and recreate them at the exact same beginning position. Also, it cannot update the kernel's idea of the partition table if partitions of the disk are in use. So the reboot was required so that the kernel sees the new size Parted would allow both resizing partitions and updating the kernel's view. (4-n) you could use LVM... I'm afraid it it's too late now, the installation was done without LVM.
Re: Fdisk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 02:41:26PM +0300, Gokan Atmaca wrote: > Yeah, he's working right now. I've erased all the available parts. > (Disk) I did not write the configuration. (W) Then I created a new > primary partition and gave default values. > Then I ran "resize2fs". Of course, I recreated the deleted swap > partition with "dd". That's it ... > > Note: I fixed the fstab. Great, then :-) regards - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAliCAToACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZCKgCeKPQLdEe8266xMwGa46UA1mkT 0sMAnRGMN0dWqSJ/jPiyiCCKBCSSPN3M =TOnQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Fdisk
Yeah, he's working right now. I've erased all the available parts. (Disk) I did not write the configuration. (W) Then I created a new primary partition and gave default values. Then I ran "resize2fs". Of course, I recreated the deleted swap partition with "dd". That's it ... Note: I fixed the fstab. On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 2:27 PM,wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 02:05:26PM +0300, Gokan Atmaca wrote: >> I did it. I first erased all parts. Without saying "W". Then I called >> the new section and gave default values. >> I've done it the next time I restart. :) >> >> #resize2fs /dev/sda1 > > Sorry, I couldn't understand exactly what you mean. But I hope it > worked for you! > > Cheers > - -- t > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAliB9BgACgkQBcgs9XrR2kbHDACdEdsrLVcmq4nLaLCmv6LAjbRL > ivQAn1K0GbY1qMLYci66Brze0QqGhDh3 > =vxZR > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Fdisk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 02:05:26PM +0300, Gokan Atmaca wrote: > I did it. I first erased all parts. Without saying "W". Then I called > the new section and gave default values. > I've done it the next time I restart. :) > > #resize2fs /dev/sda1 Sorry, I couldn't understand exactly what you mean. But I hope it worked for you! Cheers - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAliB9BgACgkQBcgs9XrR2kbHDACdEdsrLVcmq4nLaLCmv6LAjbRL ivQAn1K0GbY1qMLYci66Brze0QqGhDh3 =vxZR -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Fdisk
I did it. I first erased all parts. Without saying "W". Then I called the new section and gave default values. I've done it the next time I restart. :) #resize2fs /dev/sda1 On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 1:11 PM, <to...@tuxteam.de> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 11:59:36AM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: >> On 01/20/2017 11:54 AM, Gokan Atmaca wrote: >> > Hello >> > >> > Debian is running as a VM on the KVM. I enlarged the disk with QEMU. >> > But the disk is as follows. >> > So he did not grow up. >> > >> > Pre: >> > root@debian:/home/gokan# fdisk -l >> > >> > Disk /dev/sda:[b] 40 GiB[/b], 42949672960 bytes, 83886080 sectors >> > Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes >> > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >> > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >> > Disklabel type: dos >> > Disk identifier: 0x6845f24a >> > >> > Device BootStart End Sectors Size Id Type >> > /dev/sda1 *2048 80383999 80381952 38.3G 83 Linux >> > /dev/sda2 80386046 83884031 3497986 1.7G 5 Extended >> > /dev/sda5 80386048 83884031 3497984 1.7G 82 Linux swap / Solaris >> > >> > root@debian:/home/gokan# >> > root@debian:/home/gokan# df -Th >> > Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on >> > /dev/sda1 ext4 38G 908M 35G 3% / >> > udev devtmpfs 10M 0 10M 0% /dev >> > tmpfs tmpfs 201M 4.4M 196M 3% /run >> > tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /dev/shm >> > tmpfs tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock >> > tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /sys/fs/cgroup >> > >> > Post: >> > root@debian:/home/gokan# fdisk -l >> > >> > Disk /dev/sda:[b] 50 GiB[/b], 53687091200 bytes, 104857600 sectors >> > Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes >> > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >> > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes >> > Disklabel type: dos >> > Disk identifier: 0x6845f24a >> > >> > Device BootStart End Sectors Size Id Type >> > /dev/sda1 *2048 80383999 80381952 38.3G 83 Linux >> > /dev/sda2 80386046 83884031 3497986 1.7G 5 Extended >> > /dev/sda5 80386048 83884031 3497984 1.7G 82 Linux swap / Solaris >> > >> > root@debian:/home/gokan# >> > root@debian:/home/gokan# df -Th >> > Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on >> > /dev/sda1 ext4 38G 908M 35G 3% / >> > udev devtmpfs 10M 0 10M 0% /dev >> > tmpfs tmpfs 201M 4.4M 196M 3% /run >> > tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /dev/shm >> > tmpfs tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock >> > tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /sys/fs/cgroup >> > >> > How can I grow this disc? >> >> Hi, >> >> after enlarging disk or logical volume (in case of LVM), you have to >> enlarge file system. > > Exactly. The disk is bigger now, but you have to do something with > this extra space. > > (1) You could make an extra partition (that would go after sda5, > that is your swap space) and put a file system on it, then > e.g. mount it > > (2) you could try to add your new space to your existing swap > partition. Just disable swap (swapoff), enlarge sda5 (fdisk), > make new swap (mkswap), re-enable swap (swapon). > > (3) you could try to add your new space to your existing root > partition (sda1). Problem is, the swap is on the way. So > first disable swap, remove swap partition (as in (2)), delete > swap partition (fdisk), enlarge sda1 (still fdisk), re-create > swap at the end (still fdisk). When finished, and all is > well, then you can resize your file system (resize2fs). Note > that root can't be mounted read/write for that. > > (4-n) you could use LVM... > > I guess you want (3). > > Regards > - -- t > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAliB4kcACgkQBcgs9XrR2kb80gCdEYOlD7WNf2PEujXXs6SCC3hP > KLcAn0OcfH+JNlXFth5ftiIPRHJRlVXA > =JUyi > -END PGP SIGNATURE- >
Re: Fdisk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 11:59:36AM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 01/20/2017 11:54 AM, Gokan Atmaca wrote: > > Hello > > > > Debian is running as a VM on the KVM. I enlarged the disk with QEMU. > > But the disk is as follows. > > So he did not grow up. > > > > Pre: > > root@debian:/home/gokan# fdisk -l > > > > Disk /dev/sda:[b] 40 GiB[/b], 42949672960 bytes, 83886080 sectors > > Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > > Disklabel type: dos > > Disk identifier: 0x6845f24a > > > > Device BootStart End Sectors Size Id Type > > /dev/sda1 *2048 80383999 80381952 38.3G 83 Linux > > /dev/sda2 80386046 83884031 3497986 1.7G 5 Extended > > /dev/sda5 80386048 83884031 3497984 1.7G 82 Linux swap / Solaris > > > > root@debian:/home/gokan# > > root@debian:/home/gokan# df -Th > > Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/sda1 ext4 38G 908M 35G 3% / > > udev devtmpfs 10M 0 10M 0% /dev > > tmpfs tmpfs 201M 4.4M 196M 3% /run > > tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /dev/shm > > tmpfs tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock > > tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /sys/fs/cgroup > > > > Post: > > root@debian:/home/gokan# fdisk -l > > > > Disk /dev/sda:[b] 50 GiB[/b], 53687091200 bytes, 104857600 sectors > > Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > > Disklabel type: dos > > Disk identifier: 0x6845f24a > > > > Device BootStart End Sectors Size Id Type > > /dev/sda1 *2048 80383999 80381952 38.3G 83 Linux > > /dev/sda2 80386046 83884031 3497986 1.7G 5 Extended > > /dev/sda5 80386048 83884031 3497984 1.7G 82 Linux swap / Solaris > > > > root@debian:/home/gokan# > > root@debian:/home/gokan# df -Th > > Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/sda1 ext4 38G 908M 35G 3% / > > udev devtmpfs 10M 0 10M 0% /dev > > tmpfs tmpfs 201M 4.4M 196M 3% /run > > tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /dev/shm > > tmpfs tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock > > tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /sys/fs/cgroup > > > > How can I grow this disc? > > Hi, > > after enlarging disk or logical volume (in case of LVM), you have to > enlarge file system. Exactly. The disk is bigger now, but you have to do something with this extra space. (1) You could make an extra partition (that would go after sda5, that is your swap space) and put a file system on it, then e.g. mount it (2) you could try to add your new space to your existing swap partition. Just disable swap (swapoff), enlarge sda5 (fdisk), make new swap (mkswap), re-enable swap (swapon). (3) you could try to add your new space to your existing root partition (sda1). Problem is, the swap is on the way. So first disable swap, remove swap partition (as in (2)), delete swap partition (fdisk), enlarge sda1 (still fdisk), re-create swap at the end (still fdisk). When finished, and all is well, then you can resize your file system (resize2fs). Note that root can't be mounted read/write for that. (4-n) you could use LVM... I guess you want (3). Regards - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAliB4kcACgkQBcgs9XrR2kb80gCdEYOlD7WNf2PEujXXs6SCC3hP KLcAn0OcfH+JNlXFth5ftiIPRHJRlVXA =JUyi -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Fdisk
On 01/20/2017 11:54 AM, Gokan Atmaca wrote: > Hello > > Debian is running as a VM on the KVM. I enlarged the disk with QEMU. > But the disk is as follows. > So he did not grow up. > > Pre: > root@debian:/home/gokan# fdisk -l > > Disk /dev/sda:[b] 40 GiB[/b], 42949672960 bytes, 83886080 sectors > Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > Disklabel type: dos > Disk identifier: 0x6845f24a > > Device BootStart End Sectors Size Id Type > /dev/sda1 *2048 80383999 80381952 38.3G 83 Linux > /dev/sda2 80386046 83884031 3497986 1.7G 5 Extended > /dev/sda5 80386048 83884031 3497984 1.7G 82 Linux swap / Solaris > > root@debian:/home/gokan# > root@debian:/home/gokan# df -Th > Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda1 ext4 38G 908M 35G 3% / > udev devtmpfs 10M 0 10M 0% /dev > tmpfs tmpfs 201M 4.4M 196M 3% /run > tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /dev/shm > tmpfs tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock > tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /sys/fs/cgroup > > Post: > root@debian:/home/gokan# fdisk -l > > Disk /dev/sda:[b] 50 GiB[/b], 53687091200 bytes, 104857600 sectors > Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes > Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes > Disklabel type: dos > Disk identifier: 0x6845f24a > > Device BootStart End Sectors Size Id Type > /dev/sda1 *2048 80383999 80381952 38.3G 83 Linux > /dev/sda2 80386046 83884031 3497986 1.7G 5 Extended > /dev/sda5 80386048 83884031 3497984 1.7G 82 Linux swap / Solaris > > root@debian:/home/gokan# > root@debian:/home/gokan# df -Th > Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda1 ext4 38G 908M 35G 3% / > udev devtmpfs 10M 0 10M 0% /dev > tmpfs tmpfs 201M 4.4M 196M 3% /run > tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /dev/shm > tmpfs tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock > tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /sys/fs/cgroup > > How can I grow this disc? Hi, after enlarging disk or logical volume (in case of LVM), you have to enlarge file system. HTH Kind regards Georgi
Fdisk
Hello Debian is running as a VM on the KVM. I enlarged the disk with QEMU. But the disk is as follows. So he did not grow up. Pre: root@debian:/home/gokan# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda:[b] 40 GiB[/b], 42949672960 bytes, 83886080 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0x6845f24a Device BootStart End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sda1 *2048 80383999 80381952 38.3G 83 Linux /dev/sda2 80386046 83884031 3497986 1.7G 5 Extended /dev/sda5 80386048 83884031 3497984 1.7G 82 Linux swap / Solaris root@debian:/home/gokan# root@debian:/home/gokan# df -Th Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1 ext4 38G 908M 35G 3% / udev devtmpfs 10M 0 10M 0% /dev tmpfs tmpfs 201M 4.4M 196M 3% /run tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /dev/shm tmpfs tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /sys/fs/cgroup Post: root@debian:/home/gokan# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda:[b] 50 GiB[/b], 53687091200 bytes, 104857600 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0x6845f24a Device BootStart End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sda1 *2048 80383999 80381952 38.3G 83 Linux /dev/sda2 80386046 83884031 3497986 1.7G 5 Extended /dev/sda5 80386048 83884031 3497984 1.7G 82 Linux swap / Solaris root@debian:/home/gokan# root@debian:/home/gokan# df -Th Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1 ext4 38G 908M 35G 3% / udev devtmpfs 10M 0 10M 0% /dev tmpfs tmpfs 201M 4.4M 196M 3% /run tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /dev/shm tmpfs tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock tmpfs tmpfs 501M 0 501M 0% /sys/fs/cgroup How can I grow this disc?
Re: FDisk Help
Sven: On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 16:12:51 +0100, you wrote: >You said in your first mail that /dev/sda6 was swap. And since Linux >always numbers the logical partitions beginning from 5 and /dev/sda1 was >/, /dev/sda2 can only be the extended partition, containing sda5-8. >Simple deduction (and experience with the matter of course). > >(Side-note: this is also why I really like GPT instead of MSDOS as a >partition table. No primary, extended and logical partition nonsense, >kist 128 possible partitions without any special conventions.) Thanks. More of that esoteric knowledge again, comes with experience I know.
Re: FDisk Help
On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 04:53:34PM +0100, jdd wrote: > fdisk -l > > gives all the necessary info > > example: > > Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type > /dev/sdc1 * 2048 62910463 6290841630G 83 Linux > /dev/sdc262910464 937701375 874790912 417,1G f W95 Ext'd (LBA) > /dev/sdc562912512 125820927 6290841630G 83 Linux > /dev/sdc6 125822976 142591999 16769024 8G 82 Linux swap / Solaris > /dev/sdc7 142594048 937701375 795107328 379,1G 83 Linux > > > > (but all I have at hand is an openSUSE, the debian version may be different) LOL, you do realise this is a list for Debian users, right? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X
Re: FDisk Help
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jan 09, 2016 at 02:54:44AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 04:53:34PM +0100, jdd wrote: [...] > > (but all I have at hand is an openSUSE, the debian version may be different) > > LOL, you do realise this is a list for Debian users, right? But Debian users tend to be helpful and give others a hand (in my experience, OpenSuSE users are very nice too. And don't get me started on Arch: their wiki alone is a service to humankind so huge that I've got no words for that :-) - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlaPuk8ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZ4ewCfVuzQKUF+fRI+ZIaeGCC8gxz5 SucAni76hcJi3j7dX6SVBDkP38Gv2xXM =UXfg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: FDisk Help
Le 08/01/2016 14:54, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 04:53:34PM +0100, jdd wrote: fdisk -l gives all the necessary info example: Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sdc1 * 2048 62910463 6290841630G 83 Linux /dev/sdc262910464 937701375 874790912 417,1G f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sdc562912512 125820927 6290841630G 83 Linux /dev/sdc6 125822976 142591999 16769024 8G 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdc7 142594048 937701375 795107328 379,1G 83 Linux (but all I have at hand is an openSUSE, the debian version may be different) LOL, you do realise this is a list for Debian users, right? and? I also have Debian on some computers and there are several fdisk on the air jdd
Re: FDisk Help
Le 07/01/2016 08:08, Steve Matzura a écrit : I actually tried answering my own questions by looking at an other running system to see how this is done, but the system is a different df is not the right tool to lokk at partitions, simply use "sudo fdisk -l" jdd
Re: FDisk Help
Steve Matzurawrote: > Sven: On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 08:29:46 +0100, you wrote: >> /dev/sda5 to /dev/sda8 are logical partitions inside an extended >> partition. The extended partition is /dev/sda2. > How did you know that? sda6 isn't even a mounted filesystem--sda1, 5, > 7 and 8 are the mounted filesystems for /, /tmp, /var, and /home > respectively. How did /dev/sda6 get in there? It shows as swap. You said in your first mail that /dev/sda6 was swap. And since Linux always numbers the logical partitions beginning from 5 and /dev/sda1 was /, /dev/sda2 can only be the extended partition, containing sda5-8. Simple deduction (and experience with the matter of course). (Side-note: this is also why I really like GPT instead of MSDOS as a partition table. No primary, extended and logical partition nonsense, kist 128 possible partitions without any special conventions.) Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.
Re: FDisk Help
Sven: On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 08:29:46 +0100, you wrote: >/dev/sda5 to /dev/sda8 are logical partitions inside an extended >partition. The extended partition is /dev/sda2. How did you know that? sda6 isn't even a mounted filesystem--sda1, 5, 7 and 8 are the mounted filesystems for /, /tmp, /var, and /home respectively. How did /dev/sda6 get in there? It shows as swap. >Hint: try the tool "lsblk" to see where which filesystem resides. NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT sda 8:00 111.8G 0 disk tqsda1 8:10 8.4G 0 part / tqsda2 8:20 1K 0 part tqsda5 8:50 2.8G 0 part /var tqsda6 8:60 13.4G 0 part [SWAP] tqsda7 8:70 380M 0 part /tmp mqsda8 8:80 86.9G 0 part /home sdb 8:16 0 232.9G 0 disk sr0 11:01 1024M 0 rom OK, I see /dev/sdb is the 250G disk which probably needs partitioning and formatting. Thanks for the hint. Always learning these single-purpose tools is one of the ! joys of Linux.
Re: FDisk Help
Le 07/01/2016 16:43, David Christensen a écrit : 'lsblk' can tell you the relationship between kernel names (e.g. sda, sda1, etc.) and mount points: $ lsblk not always. I just tested: lsblk only flag as swap the active swap partition fdisk -l gives all the necessary info example: Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sdc1 * 2048 62910463 6290841630G 83 Linux /dev/sdc262910464 937701375 874790912 417,1G f W95 Ext'd (LBA) /dev/sdc562912512 125820927 6290841630G 83 Linux /dev/sdc6 125822976 142591999 16769024 8G 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdc7 142594048 937701375 795107328 379,1G 83 Linux (but all I have at hand is an openSUSE, the debian version may be different) jdd
Re: FDisk Help
Steve Matzura <s...@noisynotes.com> wrote: > I have three physical drives in my system--/dev/sda is presumably my > boot drive, which shows up as six devices in /dev: > /dev/sda1,2,5,6,7,8. Additionally, there's a CD-ROM drive, and a 250GB > standard rotating disk. My boot partition is located on a 120GB SSD, > which I presume is /dev/sda, is divided as follows according to df: > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda1 8518920 879012 7184128 11% / > /dev/sda7 368615 2058343005 1% /tmp > /dev/sda5 2817056 178752 2475488 7% /var > /dev/sda889493696 57076 84867532 1% /home > What, then, are /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda6? I tried looking at them with > FDisk and got the following: > For /dev/sda2: Failed to read extended partition table > (offset=5858805): Invalid argument > For /dev/sda6: device contains a valid 'swap' signature, it's strongly > recommended to wipe the device by command wipefs(8) if this setup is > unexpected to avoid possible collisions. /dev/sda5 to /dev/sda8 are logical partitions inside an extended partition. The extended partition is /dev/sda2. Hint: try the tool "lsblk" to see where which filesystem resides. Grüße -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.
gnu fdisk pour kfreebsd
bonjour, je recherche une doc pour pouvoir utiliser fdisk en mode chs afin de préparer une install sur un ordi portable slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150313053036.446cbc94.bernard.schoenac...@free.fr
Re: PROBLEMA FDISK/KDE
O que mostra a saída do comando fdisk -l /dev/sdX, onde X é o id do pendrive? Abs, Helio Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro http://twitter.com/helioloureiro http://gplus.to/helioloureiro Em 6 de fevereiro de 2014 17:57, André Luiz andre4li...@gmail.comescreveu: Ja tentou o comando dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=512 count=1 ? Em Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:44:34 -0200 Paulo Roberto shellcl...@gmail.com escreveu: Olá, Estou com problema ao tentar particionar/formatar um pendrive utilizando fdisk/cfdisk/parted. Utilizei recentemente um pendrive de 4Gb para criar um disco 'bootavel' debian 7, dd if=imagem.iso of=/dev/sdx , o resultado foi uma imagem funcionando normalmente. O que acontece e que depois de instalar o sistema fui apagar o pendrive, particionar/formatar e tudo ocorreu normalmente...mass quando plugo o pendrive na porta usb o kdenotification mostra o pendrive como se fossem 2 pendrives ja deletei a tabela de partições várias vezes e formatei com vfat,ext4,ext3 e nada resolve, sempre acontece a mesma coisa... Acredito que seja um bug em algum pacote do kde... mas não encontrei nada relacionado, alguem ja conhece este problema? obs: testei em outros hosts com a mesma versão de pacotes e o problema acontece em todos...temente um pendrive de 4Gb para c em anexo o print... Versão do pacote que tem o fdisk # dpkg -l util-linux Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version ArchitectureDescription +++-=-===-===-=== ii util-linux2.20.1-5.3 amd64 Miscellaneous system utilities # fdisk -v fdisk (util-linux 2.20.1) -- André Luiz Fraga Moreira ___ AGORACRED -- Departamento de TI Tel: (27) 4009-0200 / ramal 0247 andre.more...@agoracred.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140206145708.0...@gmail.com
PROBLEMA FDISK/KDE
Olá, Estou com problema ao tentar particionar/formatar um pendrive utilizando fdisk/cfdisk/parted. Utilizei recentemente um pendrive de 4Gb para criar um disco 'bootavel' debian 7, dd if=imagem.iso of=/dev/sdx , o resultado foi uma imagem funcionando normalmente. O que acontece e que depois de instalar o sistema fui apagar o pendrive, particionar/formatar e tudo ocorreu normalmente...mass quando plugo o pendrive na porta usb o kdenotification mostra o pendrive como se fossem 2 pendrives ja deletei a tabela de partições várias vezes e formatei com vfat,ext4,ext3 e nada resolve, sempre acontece a mesma coisa... Acredito que seja um bug em algum pacote do kde... mas não encontrei nada relacionado, alguem ja conhece este problema? obs: testei em outros hosts com a mesma versão de pacotes e o problema acontece em todos...temente um pendrive de 4Gb para c em anexo o print... Versão do pacote que tem o fdisk # dpkg -l util-linux Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version ArchitectureDescription +++-=-===-===-=== ii util-linux2.20.1-5.3 amd64 Miscellaneous system utilities # fdisk -v fdisk (util-linux 2.20.1) cee05022016 Description: Binary data
Re: PROBLEMA FDISK/KDE
Ja tentou o comando dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=512 count=1 ? Em Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:44:34 -0200 Paulo Roberto shellcl...@gmail.com escreveu: Olá, Estou com problema ao tentar particionar/formatar um pendrive utilizando fdisk/cfdisk/parted. Utilizei recentemente um pendrive de 4Gb para criar um disco 'bootavel' debian 7, dd if=imagem.iso of=/dev/sdx , o resultado foi uma imagem funcionando normalmente. O que acontece e que depois de instalar o sistema fui apagar o pendrive, particionar/formatar e tudo ocorreu normalmente...mass quando plugo o pendrive na porta usb o kdenotification mostra o pendrive como se fossem 2 pendrives ja deletei a tabela de partições várias vezes e formatei com vfat,ext4,ext3 e nada resolve, sempre acontece a mesma coisa... Acredito que seja um bug em algum pacote do kde... mas não encontrei nada relacionado, alguem ja conhece este problema? obs: testei em outros hosts com a mesma versão de pacotes e o problema acontece em todos...temente um pendrive de 4Gb para c em anexo o print... Versão do pacote que tem o fdisk # dpkg -l util-linux Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version ArchitectureDescription +++-=-===-===-=== ii util-linux2.20.1-5.3 amd64 Miscellaneous system utilities # fdisk -v fdisk (util-linux 2.20.1) -- André Luiz Fraga Moreira ___ AGORACRED -- Departamento de TI Tel: (27) 4009-0200 / ramal 0247 andre.more...@agoracred.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140206145708.0...@gmail.com
Algo raro con fdisk -l
Hola lista. Todas mis estaciones de trabajo están en Debian 6.0.7. En dos de ellas ayer hice un fdisk y me salió algo que nunca había percibido (debajo) Pudieran explicarme por qué ocurre esto, si mi HDD está en peligro, además cómo solucionarlo. root@informatico:/home/administrador# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 1000 GB, 1000202273280 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 16527524280967 HPFS/NTFS Warning: Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda2 *6527 1305352420095 83 Linux Warning: Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda3 13053 13445 3148740 82 Linux swap Warning: Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda4 13446 121602 8687630705 Extended Warning: Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda5 13446 67524 4343815357 HPFS/NTFS Warning: Partition 5 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda6 67524 121602 4343815357 HPFS/NTFS Warning: Partition 6 does not end on cylinder boundary. Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/55872.10.0.1.2.1369926781.squir...@www.correo.pinarte.cult.cu
Re: Algo raro con fdisk -l
Saludos: Hola lista. Todas mis estaciones de trabajo están en Debian 6.0.7. En dos de ellas ayer hice un fdisk y me salió algo que nunca había percibido (debajo) Pudieran explicarme por qué ocurre esto, si mi HDD está en peligro, además cómo solucionarlo. root@informatico:/home/administrador# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 1000 GB, 1000202273280 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 16527524280967 HPFS/NTFS Warning: Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda2 *6527 1305352420095 83 Linux Warning: Partition 2 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda3 13053 13445 3148740 82 Linux swap Warning: Partition 3 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda4 13446 121602 8687630705 Extended Warning: Partition 4 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda5 13446 67524 4343815357 HPFS/NTFS Warning: Partition 5 does not end on cylinder boundary. /dev/sda6 67524 121602 4343815357 HPFS/NTFS Warning: Partition 6 does not end on cylinder boundary. Saludos Eso puede ocurrir en los discos modernos por una falta de alineación. Repercute sólo en que las lecturas y estrituras en ese sector son más lentas. Para corregir el problema deberias eliminar esas particiones y volverlas a crearlas con fdisk (cambiando las unidades de cilindros a sectores). Supongo que con un livecd y usando parted/gparted tambien lo podrias solucionar. De este problema se ha hablado largo y tendido en los foros de OVH: http://foros.ovh.es/showthread.php?t=9807 http://foros.ovh.es/showthread.php?t=10748 -- Alfonso alfo...@gnuino.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1820838367.817.1369927939957.javamail.r...@gnuino.net
Re: Algo raro con fdisk -l
El Thu, 30 May 2013 11:13:01 -0400, academia escribió: Hola lista. Todas mis estaciones de trabajo están en Debian 6.0.7. En dos de ellas ayer hice un fdisk y me salió algo que nunca había percibido (debajo) Pudieran explicarme por qué ocurre esto, si mi HDD está en peligro, además cómo solucionarlo. Le habla el sistema automatizado de alertas smarmontools. Stop. Su disco duro está en peligro. Stop. Hemos detectado particiones con Windows. Stop. ¿Hay algo más peligroso que eso? Stop. No. Stop. (es broma :-P) root@informatico:/home/administrador# fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 1000 GB, 1000202273280 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 16527524280967 HPFS/NTFS Warning: Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary. ^^ (...) Si te refieres a ese mensaje, ya te ha contestado Alfonso, a lo que simple (y maliciosamente) añado: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Warning%3A+Partition+1+does+not+end+on+cylinder+boundary Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ko7thd$5ni$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
Or (from hdparm's man page: Disable the automatic power-saving function of certain Seagate drives...): hdparm -Z /dev/sda # hdparm -Z /dev/sda /dev/sda: disabling Seagate auto powersaving mode HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(seagatepwrsave) failed: Input/output error lbrtchx -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cafakbwjz5c7lhwsegnntlk4ldc2dsuurbexdlvjnfguzn9z...@mail.gmail.com
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
Hi Albrecht! Am Samstag, 29. September 2012 schrieb Albretch Mueller: […] [11750.572197] ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) [11750.572245] ata1: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) [11750.676244] ata3.00: ACPI cmd ef/03:0c:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES) filtered out [11750.676248] ata3.00: ACPI cmd ef/03:42:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES) filtered out [11750.676252] ata3.00: ACPI cmd f5/00:00:00:00:00:a0 (SECURITY FREEZE LOCK) filtered out [11750.682804] ata3.00: configured for UDMA/33 [11755.300321] psmouse serio1: hgpk: ID: 10 00 64 [11757.745503] [11757.745504] floppy driver state [11757.745505] --- [11757.745513] now=3437324 last interrupt=1109734 diff=2327590 last called handler=recal_interrupt [11757.745515] timeout_message=lock fdc [11757.745517] last output bytes: [11757.745518] 18 80 4294884748 [11757.745520] 8 80 4294884748 [11757.745522] 8 80 4294884748 [11757.745523] 8 80 4294884748 [11757.745525] 8 80 4294884748 [11757.745527] 12 80 1109103 [11757.745528] 0 90 1109103 [11757.745530] 13 90 1109103 [11757.745531] 0 90 1109103 [11757.745533] 1a 90 1109103 [11757.745534] 0 90 1109103 [11757.745536] 3 80 1109103 [11757.745537] c1 90 1109103 [11757.745539] 10 90 1109103 [11757.745540] 7 80 1109103 [11757.745542] 0 90 1109103 [11757.745544] 8 81 1109416 [11757.745545] 7 80 1109422 [11757.745547] 0 90 1109422 [11757.745548] 8 81 1109734 [11757.745550] last result at 1109734 [11757.745551] last redo_fd_request at 1121152 [11757.745554] 70 00p. [11757.745564] status=0 [11757.745566] fdc_busy=1 [11757.745569] do_floppy=reset_interrupt [11757.745571] cont=f85786c8 [11757.745572] current_req= (null) [11757.745574] command_status=-1 [11757.745575] [11757.745578] floppy0: floppy timeout called [11757.745604] PM: resume of devices complete after 7495.396 msecs [11757.745866] Restarting tasks ... done. [11758.374389] VFS: busy inodes on changed media or resized disk sr0 [11758.376145] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready [11760.048064] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex [11760.048068] tg3 :02:00.0: eth0: Flow control is on for TX and on for RX [11760.048247] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready [11770.228921] eth0: no IPv6 routers present [11952.768836] usb 1-8: new high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd [11952.898331] usb 1-8: New USB device found, idVendor=0930, idProduct=6545 [11952.898334] usb 1-8: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [11952.898337] usb 1-8: Product: DT 101 G2 [11952.898340] usb 1-8: Manufacturer: Kingston [11952.898342] usb 1-8: SerialNumber: 001CC0C83B35EB61142A011A [11952.899440] scsi6 : usb-storage 1-8:1.0 [11953.948116] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Kingston DT 101 G2 PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS [11953.948296] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 [11954.607947] sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] 15638528 512-byte logical blocks: (8.00 GB/7.45 GiB) [11954.610064] sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off [11954.610068] sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00 [11954.612344] sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page present [11954.612347] sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through [11954.619566] sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page present [11954.619569] sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through [11954.641593] sda: sda1 [11954.647337] sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page present [11954.647342] sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through [11954.647345] sd 6:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI removable disk [12011.869055] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 [12097.222509] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 [12150.892906] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 [12209.992320] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 [22999.715096] usb 1-8: USB disconnect, device number 4 [22999.974401] usb 1-8: new high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci_hcd [23000.494403] usb 1-8: device not accepting address 5, error -71 [23000.547764] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 8 [23431.424360] usb 1-8: new high-speed USB device number 7 using ehci_hcd [23431.553861] usb 1-8: New USB device found, idVendor=0930, idProduct=6545 [23431.553866] usb 1-8: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [23431.553869] usb 1-8: Product: DT 101 G2 [23431.553871] usb 1-8: Manufacturer: Kingston [23431.553874] usb 1-8: SerialNumber: 001CC0C83B35EB61142A011A [23431.555077] scsi7 : usb-storage 1-8:1.0 [23432.603528] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access Kingston DT 101 G2 PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS [23432.603703] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 [23433.241968] sd 7:0:0:0: [sda] 15638528 512-byte logical blocks: (8.00 GB/7.45 GiB) [23433.244088] sd 7:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off [23433.244091] sd 7:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00 [23433.246215] sd 7:0:0:0: [sda] No Caching mode page present
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
On 9/29/12, Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net wrote: run d-ban on the disk and do a thorough cleaning of the disk then try ~ The only data erasure I know of is shredding your hard drives to pieces, smashing them to dust and melting them. This is by the way what US gov does with their hard drives and monitors ~ lbrtchx ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_remanence ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercivity ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degaussing For certain forms of computer data storage, however, such as modern hard drives and some tape backup drives, degaussing renders the magnetic media completely unusable and damages the storage system. This is due to the devices having an infinitely variable read/write head positioning mechanism which relies on special servo control data (e.g. Gray Code) that is meant to be permanently embedded into the magnetic media. This servo data is written onto the media a single time at the factory using special-purpose servo writing hardware. The servo patterns are normally never overwritten by the device for any reason and are used to precisely position the read/write heads over data tracks on the media, to compensate for sudden jarring device movements, thermal expansion, or changes in orientation. Degaussing indiscriminately removes not only the stored data but also the servo control data, and without the servo data the device is no longer able to determine where data is to be read or written on the magnetic medium. The medium must be low-level formatted to become usable again; with modern hard drives, this is generally not possible without manufacturer-specific and often model-specific service equipment. ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFakBwj=pS0AT98ZjzPF1uVJ_X4NH=isxr4w1pavamvofd_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
On 9/29/12, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: Hi Albrecht! Am Samstag, 29. September 2012 schrieb Albretch Mueller: Two ideas: 1) floppy device activated in BIOS while no floppy device present 2) floppy emulation for USB mass storage activated in BIOS ~ that was it! Reset, checked and solved! ~ thank you Martin et al lbrtchx -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFakBwgGtMMFAja1zP8_0X=1qg8Wsf_NKQF=q_cqpts2od1...@mail.gmail.com
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
Because your disk is sleeping? -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87k3ve4pyk@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
Could it be a missing swap partition is slowing down drive access? I don't know if you were connected to the internet when you did this run, but if so, you might disconnect from the internet and run fdisk -l again and compare speeds. It could be fdisk is checking for remote disks as well but I don't know that for sure. hth. --- jude jdash...@shellworld.net Adobe fiend for failing to Flash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1209280326270.86...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
Hi On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 03:52:26AM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: $ date; fdisk -l; date Thu Sep 27 22:48:21 UTC 2012 Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00052568 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 633908614419543041c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda2390861457814015919527007+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda378140160 23442047978140160 83 Linux /dev/sda4 234420480 488396799 1269881605 Extended /dev/sda5 234420543 3534259504728+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda6 353430063 372981104 9775521c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda7 372981168 392516144 9767488+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda8 392516208 43157015919526976 83 Linux /dev/sda9 431570223 441353744 4891761 83 Linux /dev/sda10 441353808 446253569 2449881 83 Linux /dev/sda11 446253633 44981 1783183+ 83 Linux /dev/sda12 449822720 48839679919287040 83 Linux Thu Sep 27 22:48:59 UTC 2012 So... fdisk -l took 38 seconds - which is a bit much. Question: How long does fdisk -l /dev/sda take? (note: specifying /dev/sda explicitly, rather than fdisk figure it out) If this is a lot shorter, then your problem may be related to how fdisk chooses a default device to look at, and the contents of /proc/partitions becomes interesting... Hope this help -- Karl E. Jorgensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120928103027.GA7383@hawking
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
Failing boot sector? Some other sector it has to read is failing? Check the logs. Try (from smartmontools): ~ I don't know exactly which of your questions/suggestions running: ~ smartctl -A /dev/sda | egrep -i sector|realloc ~ relates to, but it didn't report any error message. Without grep I got: ~ $ sudo smartctl -A /dev/sda smartctl 5.43 2012-05-01 r3539 [i686-linux-3.3.7] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-12 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 115 082 006Pre-fail Always - 96695847 3 Spin_Up_Time0x0003 096 095 000Pre-fail Always - 0 4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032 100 100 020Old_age Always - 365 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 075 060 030Pre-fail Always - 17316569764 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000Old_age Always - 2678 10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0013 100 100 097Pre-fail Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020Old_age Always - 395 187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 0 189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000Old_age Always - 0 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 059 045 045Old_age Always In_the_past 41 (Min/Max 40/41) 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 041 055 000Old_age Always - 41 (0 23 0 0 0) 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 078 057 000Old_age Always - 102323103 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count0x003e 200 200 000Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x 100 253 000Old_age Offline - 0 202 Data_Address_Mark_Errs 0x0032 100 253 000Old_age Always - 0 $ Because your disk is sleeping? ~ That I think may be the reason why. I did notice and check that it always seems to happen after suspending my box, even if you unmount all drives before, but what I don't get is that may people would be complaining about that same problem. I have seem people complaining all the time about hardware-related issues with suspending a box, but not such delays and I always thought when you awaken your box after suspending it, it should go to its initial state. Is there a way to awaken all harddrive/partitions you are using? ~ Could it be a missing swap partition is slowing down drive access? ~ $ cat /proc/swaps FilenameTypeSizeUsedPriority /dev/zram0 partition 1942352 0 0 ~ I don't know if you were connected to the internet ~ I wasn't, but I have notice weird things happening when I am and, of course, my work horse box I don't connect to the Internet at all ~ So... fdisk -l took 38 seconds - which is a bit much. ~ Yep! Exactly 38 seconds!?! ~ $ date; fdisk -l; date Fri Sep 28 07:13:45 UTC 2012 Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00052568 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 633908614419543041c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda2390861457814015919527007+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda378140160 23442047978140160 83 Linux /dev/sda4 234420480 488396799 1269881605 Extended /dev/sda5 234420543 3534259504728+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda6 353430063 372981104 9775521c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda7 372981168 392516144 9767488+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda8 392516208 43157015919526976 83 Linux /dev/sda9 431570223 441353744 4891761 83 Linux /dev/sda10 441353808 446253569 2449881 83 Linux /dev/sda11 446253633 44981 1783183+ 83 Linux /dev/sda12 449822720 48839679919287040 83 Linux Fri Sep 28 07:14:23 UTC 2012 knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ date; fdisk -l; date Fri Sep 28 07:14:41 UTC 2012 Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
On 28/09/12 11:30, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: Hi On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 03:52:26AM +0100, Albretch Mueller wrote: $ date; fdisk -l; date Thu Sep 27 22:48:21 UTC 2012 Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00052568 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 633908614419543041c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda2390861457814015919527007+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda378140160 23442047978140160 83 Linux /dev/sda4 234420480 488396799 1269881605 Extended /dev/sda5 234420543 3534259504728+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda6 353430063 372981104 9775521c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda7 372981168 392516144 9767488+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda8 392516208 43157015919526976 83 Linux /dev/sda9 431570223 441353744 4891761 83 Linux /dev/sda10 441353808 446253569 2449881 83 Linux /dev/sda11 446253633 44981 1783183+ 83 Linux /dev/sda12 449822720 48839679919287040 83 Linux Thu Sep 27 22:48:59 UTC 2012 So... fdisk -l took 38 seconds - which is a bit much. Question: How long does fdisk -l /dev/sda take? (note: specifying /dev/sda explicitly, rather than fdisk figure it out) If this is a lot shorter, then your problem may be related to how fdisk chooses a default device to look at, and the contents of /proc/partitions becomes interesting... Hope this help Also, try using time fdisk -l. The time command gives a slightly better idea of where the time is being spent that just using date before and after. -- Dom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50659554.5060...@rpdom.net
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
On 28/09/12 12:27, Albretch Mueller wrote: Failing boot sector? Some other sector it has to read is failing? Check the logs. Try (from smartmontools): ~ I don't know exactly which of your questions/suggestions running: ~ smartctl -A /dev/sda | egrep -i sector|realloc ~ relates to, but it didn't report any error message. Without grep I got: ~ $ sudo smartctl -A /dev/sda smartctl 5.43 2012-05-01 r3539 [i686-linux-3.3.7] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-12 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 115 082 006Pre-fail Always - 96695847 Ok, your disk is dying. The Raw_Read_Error_Rate should be zero, or very low. 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 075 060 030Pre-fail Always - 17316569764 That is also seriously bad. 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000Old_age Always - 2678 Is this a fairly new disk? Only 2678 hours use. 195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 078 057 000Old_age Always - 102323103 It looks like many errors have been recovered using ECC, so you probably wouldn't have noticed those. It *is* possible that smartctl is mis-interpretting the status of your disk, but given your slow fdisk command I suspect not. Time to backup, backup, backup, buy a new disk and transfer the data over asap. -- Dom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/506596df.7030...@rpdom.net
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 01:23:59PM +0100, Dom wrote: It *is* possible that smartctl is mis-interpretting the status of your disk, but given your slow fdisk command I suspect not. Time to backup, backup, backup, buy a new disk and transfer the data over asap. YES to backup, but it's worth changing your SATA cable before investing in a new disk, or at least ensuring your current one is seated properly. Try to measure the *rate* that Hardware_ECC_Recovered is increasing over a set period of time, check/replace cable, measure again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120928125241.GD5503@debian
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
Albretch Mueller lbrt...@gmail.com writes: Because your disk is sleeping? ~ That I think may be the reason why. I did notice and check that it always seems to happen after suspending my box, even if you unmount all drives before, but what I don't get is that may people would be complaining about that same problem. I have seem people complaining all the time about hardware-related issues with suspending a box, but not such delays and I always thought when you awaken your box after suspending it, it should go to its initial state. It should go back to where you suspended or hibernated it, and it doesn't. If your disk is sleeping because its power management decided to turn it off, it can take a while for it to wake up. It might be a good idea to check the power management settings with something like hdparm. Is there a way to awaken all harddrive/partitions you are using? fdisk -l seems to do that. However, it's difficult to reasonably put to sleep a disk which has partitions on it that are mounted, and it's very questionable if it's reasonable to do so (unless it's an SSD maybe, if those can be put to sleep at all). How much money and energy do you actually save by putting disks to sleep when you consider the possibility of increased wear and perhaps having to replace them sooner than would otherwise be necessary? Are there any good studies aimed to answer this question? -- Debian testing amd64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txui2sgj@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
I just backed up all the data ~ Yet, it seems something else may be (also?) somehow relating to those delays. Since I start knoppix 7.0.2 as: ~ knoppix no3d fromhd=/dev/sda9 ~ could these issues/problems relate to the fact that /dev/sda9 is mounted read-only and knoppix keeps it to itself throughout its running time? ~ See bellow the fdisk -l timings when I run knoppix from the dvd ~ lbrtchx // __ fdisk -l $ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X Fri Sep 28 10:20:26 UTC 2012 real 0m0.014s $ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X Fri Sep 28 10:20:28 UTC 2012 real 0m0.012s $ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X Fri Sep 28 10:20:29 UTC 2012 real 0m0.012s $ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X Fri Sep 28 10:20:29 UTC 2012 real 0m0.013s // __ fdisk -l /dev/sda $ date; X=`(time fdisk -l /dev/sda) 21 | grep real`; echo $X Fri Sep 28 10:20:35 UTC 2012 real 0m0.002s $ date; X=`(time fdisk -l /dev/sda) 21 | grep real`; echo $X Fri Sep 28 10:20:36 UTC 2012 real 0m0.002s $ date; X=`(time fdisk -l /dev/sda) 21 | grep real`; echo $X Fri Sep 28 10:20:37 UTC 2012 real 0m0.002s $ date; X=`(time fdisk -l /dev/sda) 21 | grep real`; echo $X Fri Sep 28 10:20:38 UTC 2012 real 0m0.002s -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFakBwhnYgFAoEuuCFf-3oCsKJ+HiN=y4cgxcpefhnwm_vb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
On 28/09/12 13:52, Jon Dowland wrote: On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 01:23:59PM +0100, Dom wrote: It *is* possible that smartctl is mis-interpretting the status of your disk, but given your slow fdisk command I suspect not. Time to backup, backup, backup, buy a new disk and transfer the data over asap. YES to backup, but it's worth changing your SATA cable before investing in a new disk, or at least ensuring your current one is seated properly. Try to measure the *rate* that Hardware_ECC_Recovered is increasing over a set period of time, check/replace cable, measure again. Good points, which I did think of *after* I'd posted my comment. Good catch. :-) -- Dom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5065bdf9.1040...@rpdom.net
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
in a box in which I use the fromhd stanza using a disk which smartclt reports as being fine the results before and after suspending are the same ~ this is what the dying disk reports ~ $ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X Fri Sep 28 10:52:58 UTC 2012 real 0m0.191s $ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X Fri Sep 28 10:52:59 UTC 2012 real 0m0.055s $ date; X=`(time fdisk -l) 21 | grep real`; echo $X Fri Sep 28 10:53:00 UTC 2012 real 0m0.052s ~ it then stabilize around 0.050s ~ For the good ones time consistently reports 0.003s ~ the thing is (for more than one reason) I use a crappy box to go online ~ Also, any comprehensive documentation regarding hd's health? smartctl's is OK to get by, but you are telling me about logs I don't know about and I would like to know more about the physics of it ~ lbrtchx -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFakBwjq=rD5G_SRLx=j7wakoctyp2nua9xgk-yeygexds1...@mail.gmail.com
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
On Friday, September 28, 2012 08:23:59 AM Dom wrote: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 115 082 006Pre-fail Always - 96695847 Ok, your disk is dying. The Raw_Read_Error_Rate should be zero, or very low. Not necessarily. At least one disk mfr (Seagate?) puts large values in these fields. Cause me a few moments' consternation the first time I saw it on my own drives -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209281448.32568.neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 115 082 006Pre-fail Always - 96695847 Ok, your disk is dying. The Raw_Read_Error_Rate should be zero, or very low. Not necessarily. At least one disk mfr (Seagate?) puts large values in these fields. Cause me a few moments' consternation the first time I saw it on my own drives ~ Indeed! Something spooky may be going on. After taking the drive out in order to back it up, I have run fdisk -l with no disk and sometimes with a pen drive inserted and these bellow are the results I got. ~ Don't you find all of this downright weird? ~ I don't believe in ghosts ;-) What do you think I could do to troubleshoot this further? ~ lbrtchx ~ $ time fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes 39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *806415638527 7815232c W95 FAT32 (LBA) real0m38.106s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.000s $ mount /media/sda1 $ time fdisk -l konqueror(2828)/kdecore (KLibrary) findLibraryInternal: plugins should not have a 'lib' prefix: libkhtmlpart.so konqueror(2828)/kdecore (KLibrary) kde4Factory: The library /usr/lib/kde4/khtml_kget.so does not offer a qt_plugin_instance function. Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes 39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *806415638527 7815232c W95 FAT32 (LBA) real0m38.107s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.000s $ sudo umount /media/sda1 $ time fdisk -l real0m38.314s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.000s $ _DT=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`; dmesg dmesg_${_DT}.log $ date; time fdisk -l; date Fri Sep 28 20:51:09 UTC 2012 real0m38.097s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.000s Fri Sep 28 20:51:47 UTC 2012 $ _DT=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`; dmesg dmesg_${_DT}.log $ ls -l dmesg_*.log -rw-r--r-- 1 knoppix knoppix 15493 Sep 28 20:50 dmesg_20120928205055.log -rw-r--r-- 1 knoppix knoppix 15490 Sep 28 20:51 dmesg_20120928205157.log $ wc -l dmesg_*.log 298 dmesg_20120928205055.log 299 dmesg_20120928205157.log 597 total $ diff dmesg_20120928205055.log dmesg_20120928205157.log 1c1 090] ehci_hcd :00:13.2: wake-up capability enabled by ACPI --- PI 298a299 [26607.877660] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 $ $ cat dmesg_20120928205055.log 090] ehci_hcd :00:13.2: wake-up capability enabled by ACPI [ 4008.172988] ohci_hcd :00:13.1: wake-up capability enabled by ACPI [ 4008.173025] ohci_hcd :00:13.0: wake-up capability enabled by ACPI [ 4008.173066] PM: late suspend of devices complete after 13.416 msecs [ 4008.173239] ACPI: Preparing to enter system sleep state S3 [ 4008.173322] PM: Saving platform NVS memory [ 4008.173361] Disabling non-boot CPUs ... [ 4008.173361] ACPI: Low-level resume complete [ 4008.173361] PM: Restoring platform NVS memory [ 4008.173361] ACPI: Waking up from system sleep state S3 [ 4008.173361] ohci_hcd :00:13.0: wake-up capability disabled by ACPI [ 4008.173361] ohci_hcd :00:13.1: wake-up capability disabled by ACPI [ 4008.173361] ehci_hcd :00:13.2: wake-up capability disabled by ACPI [ 4008.173361] PM: early resume of devices complete after 0.718 msecs [ 4008.176363] pci:00: wake-up capability disabled by ACPI [ 4008.176442] radeon :01:00.0: f529d800 unpin not necessary [ 4008.178326] serial 00:08: activated [ 4008.178771] parport_pc 00:09: activated [ 4008.189307] [drm] radeon: 1 quad pipes, 1 z pipes initialized. [ 4008.201519] [drm] PCIE GART of 512M enabled (table at 0x0004). [ 4008.201531] radeon :01:00.0: WB enabled [ 4008.201534] [drm] fence driver on ring 0 use gpu addr 0x1000 and cpu addr 0xff885000 [ 4008.201621] [drm] radeon: ring at 0x10001000 [ 4008.201651] [drm] ring test succeeded in 7 usecs [ 4008.201667] [drm] ib test succeeded in 0 usecs [ 4008.496304] ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) [ 4008.496352] ata1: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300) [ 4008.600352] ata3.00: ACPI cmd ef/03:0c:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES) filtered out [ 4008.600356] ata3.00: ACPI cmd ef/03:42:00:00:00:a0 (SET FEATURES) filtered out [ 4008.600360] ata3.00: ACPI cmd f5/00:00:00:00:00:a0 (SECURITY FREEZE LOCK) filtered out [ 4008.606911] ata3.00: configured for UDMA/33 [ 4013.233591] psmouse serio1: hgpk: ID: 10 00 64 [ 4015.679626] [ 4015.679628] floppy driver state [ 4015.679629] --- [ 4015.679637] now=1114704 last interrupt=1109734 diff=4970 last called handler=recal_interrupt [ 4015.679639
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
On Friday, September 28, 2012 08:58:47 PM Albretch Mueller wrote: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 115 082 006Pre-fail Always - 96695847 Ok, your disk is dying. The Raw_Read_Error_Rate should be zero, or very low. Not necessarily. At least one disk mfr (Seagate?) puts large values in these fields. Cause me a few moments' consternation the first time I saw it on my own drives ~ Indeed! Something spooky may be going on. After taking the drive out in order to back it up, I have run fdisk -l with no disk and sometimes with a pen drive inserted and these bellow are the results I got. ~ Don't you find all of this downright weird? Not yet. ~ I don't believe in ghosts ;-) What do you think I could do to troubleshoot this further? Have you tried fdisk -l /dev/sda? I think you did, to no avail. It might be searching some other drive or type of drive first that is slow to respond. Check the drive's power state: hdparm -C /dev/sda How about: tail -f /var/log/messages # In a separate window time dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=1024k count=1 time fdisk -l /dev/sda to see if the drive is dozing. Or (from hdparm's man page: Disable the automatic power-saving function of certain Seagate drives...): hdparm -Z /dev/sda -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209282134.29827.neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
~ I think there may be a number of things going on here. Let me first answer Neal's questions: ~ Have you tried fdisk -l /dev/sda? ~ Well, there are no disk attached whatsoever to my box. I am using a bear live CD (knoppix 7.0.2) right off the DVD drive ~ How about: tail -f /var/log/messages # In a separate window ~ file seems to be empty ~ $ date; time sudo ls -l /KNOPPIX/var/log/messages Fri Sep 28 21:55:38 UTC 2012 -rw-r- 1 syslog adm 0 May 13 02:17 /KNOPPIX/var/log/messages real0m0.012s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.007s ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Without having any drive attached I booted into init 2 using: ~ boot: knoppix no3d init 2 ~ and fdisk -l was returning with timings bellow 0.010s. Then I suspended the box (again no hard drives attached whatsoever) and after awakening the box fdisk -l started giving me the 38+ seconds responses ~ So it may not be a hard drive dying issue after all. Am I the only debian user suspending his box to whom that happens? ~ lbrtchx ~ $ date; time fdisk -l Fri Sep 28 21:14:08 UTC 2012 real 0m0.009s $ date; time fdisk -l Fri Sep 28 21:14:10 UTC 2012 real 0m0.009s $ date; time fdisk -l Fri Sep 28 21:14:11 UTC 2012 real 0m0.009s sys 0m0.003s $ date; time fdisk -l Fri Sep 28 21:14:12 UTC 2012 real 0m0.009s $ sudo mount /media/sda1 $ date; time fdisk -l Fri Sep 28 21:14:45 UTC 2012 Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes 39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *806415638527 7815232c W95 FAT32 (LBA) real 0m0.017s $ date; time fdisk -l Fri Sep 28 21:14:49 UTC 2012 Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes 39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *806415638527 7815232c W95 FAT32 (LBA) real 0m0.015s $ date; time fdisk -l Fri Sep 28 21:14:50 UTC 2012 Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes 39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *806415638527 7815232c W95 FAT32 (LBA) real 0m0.013s $ date; time fdisk -l Fri Sep 28 21:14:51 UTC 2012 Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes 39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *806415638527 7815232c W95 FAT32 (LBA) real 0m0.014s $ sudo umount /media/sda1 $ date; time fdisk -l Fri Sep 28 21:15:02 UTC 2012 Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes 39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *806415638527 7815232c W95 FAT32 (LBA) real 0m0.025s user 0m0.003s $ date; time fdisk -l Fri Sep 28 21:15:03 UTC 2012 Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes 39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *806415638527 7815232c W95 FAT32 (LBA) real 0m0.022s $ date; time fdisk -l Fri Sep 28 21:15:04 UTC 2012 Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes 39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xc3072e18 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 *806415638527 7815232c W95 FAT32 (LBA) real 0m0.024s $ date; time fdisk -l Fri Sep 28 21:15:04 UTC 2012 Disk /dev/sda: 8006 MB, 8006926336 bytes 39 heads, 39 sectors/track, 10281 cylinders, total 15638528 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512
why would fdisk -l take so long?
$ date; fdisk -l; date Thu Sep 27 22:48:21 UTC 2012 Disk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB, 250059350016 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders, total 488397168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0x00052568 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 633908614419543041c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda2390861457814015919527007+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda378140160 23442047978140160 83 Linux /dev/sda4 234420480 488396799 1269881605 Extended /dev/sda5 234420543 3534259504728+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda6 353430063 372981104 9775521c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda7 372981168 392516144 9767488+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sda8 392516208 43157015919526976 83 Linux /dev/sda9 431570223 441353744 4891761 83 Linux /dev/sda10 441353808 446253569 2449881 83 Linux /dev/sda11 446253633 44981 1783183+ 83 Linux /dev/sda12 449822720 48839679919287040 83 Linux Thu Sep 27 22:48:59 UTC 2012 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cafakbwhihfatiqirsygz-3xk4qnac51fmruttpl6p+cvmly...@mail.gmail.com
Re: why would fdisk -l take so long?
On Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:52:26 PM Albretch Mueller wrote: $ date; fdisk -l; date Thu Sep 27 22:48:21 UTC 2012 ... Thu Sep 27 22:48:59 UTC 2012 Failing boot sector? Some other sector it has to read is failing? Check the logs. Try (from smartmontools): smartctl -A /dev/sda | egrep -i sector|realloc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201209272347.31024.neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu
How to Begin - fdisk
I just installed Debian. If I issue:ls -alRI get output. Some things work.If I issue:fdiskor fdisk -lI get 'command not found'. What might I be doing wrong? ray -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120820041542.1753ead7c2b35a7d15c5b99498690bcc.f18e71ac27@email11.secureserver.net
Re: How to Begin - fdisk
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 8:15 AM, r...@aarden.us wrote: I just installed Debian. If I issue: ls -alR I get output. Some things work. If I issue: fdisk or fdisk -l I get 'command not found'. What might I be doing wrong? ray -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120820041542.1753ead7c2b35a7d15c5b99498690bcc.f18e71ac27@email11.secureserver.net Try to run the command as root. Michel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAG++Yr8qVbS9+EJh0ZEaK5r+Mi=5=bv3npdo8h3bsh2wfmw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to Begin - fdisk
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:15 AM, r...@aarden.us wrote: I just installed Debian. If I issue: ls -alR I get output. Some things work. If I issue: fdisk or fdisk -l I get 'command not found'. Because it's /sbin/fdisk and /sbin isn't in $PATH. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SwYOJ+QpE7aU=qmEMNOc_y3vgjdS2Td5=x7r0uqhcj...@mail.gmail.com
How to Begin - fdisk
I just installed Debian. If I issue: ls -alR I get output. Some things work. If I issue: fdisk or fdisk -l I get 'command not found'. What might I be doing wrong? ray -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120820043745.1753ead7c2b35a7d15c5b99498690bcc.9faf2b7fe3@email11.secureserver.net
Re: How to Begin - fdisk
Hi, 2012/8/20 r...@aarden.us: I just installed Debian. If I issue: ls -alR I get output. Some things work. If I issue: fdisk or fdisk -l I get 'command not found'. What might I be doing wrong? That's a common issue when starting with Debian (not sure with other distributions) : /sbin and /usr/sbin directories are not in the user path. You can use whereis command to find where a command is located : $ whereis fdisk fdisk: /sbin/fdisk /usr/share/man/man8/fdisk.8.gz Anyway, a normal user can't use fdisk, so try login as root, or su - root in a terminal. If you want your user to be able to access easily /sbin and /usr/sbin directories, add this line in the .bashrc file in the home directory of your user : export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin By the way, /usr/game isn't either in the path. Sebastien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/can64bfag3xwucyyfz+zfygkevt+cdraa8oloszo4y9nr7zd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to Begin - fdisk
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 04:15 -0700, r...@aarden.us wrote: I just installed Debian. If I issue: ls -alR I get output. Some things work. If I issue: fdisk or fdisk -l I get 'command not found'. What might I be doing wrong? ray Become root first, resp. $ su -c fdisk -l or $ su # fdisk -l you also can set up sudo and then run $ sudo fdisk -l or you can be reckless and make fdisk available for users without the needed permissions. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1345464261.2458.44.camel@precise
OT: How to Begin - fdisk
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 13:56 +0200, Sébastien Kalt wrote: That's a common issue when starting with Debian (not sure with other distributions) : /sbin and /usr/sbin directories are not in the user path. At the moment there isn't a FHS for any distro :p. OT for the OT: IIRC Red Hat/ Fedora/ Lennart Poettering plans to switch from / to \. So next time don't run $ /media/usb-stick but $ \run\media\username\usb-stick Sorry, I couldn't resist. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1345464787.2458.50.camel@precise
Re: OT: How to Begin - fdisk
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 14:13 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 13:56 +0200, Sébastien Kalt wrote: That's a common issue when starting with Debian (not sure with other distributions) : /sbin and /usr/sbin directories are not in the user path. At the moment there isn't a FHS for any distro :p. OT for the OT: IIRC Red Hat/ Fedora/ Lennart Poettering plans to switch from / to \. So next time don't run $ /media/usb-stick $ ls /media/usb-stick but $ \run\media\username\usb-stick $ ls \run\media\username\usb-stick Sorry, I couldn't resist. Now you're allowed to laugh at me :D. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1345464929.2458.51.camel@precise
Re: How to Begin - fdisk
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 04:37:45 -0700, ray wrote: I just installed Debian. If I issue: ls -alR I get output. Some things work. If I issue: fdisk or fdisk -l I get 'command not found'. What might I be doing wrong? That you need to run it as root (su -) or using sudo :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0tgce$mg3$6...@ger.gmane.org