Re: filtering MS* mails w/ Spamassassin

2003-10-24 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 07:30:10AM -0500, Nathan J. Malmberg wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 03:24:42AM -0400, ThanhVu Nguyen wrote:
> > My SA setting blocks most of the spam mails but it doesn't/can't stop
> > these MS mails, no matter how many MS examples I try to feed to it to
> > learn.  Anyone has any hint / howto's ?  
> 
> I found that SA didn't start filtering out the Swen mails until I gave
> it enough non-Swen mails (i.e. ham) to trigger the Bayesian filtering.
> Once I gave it some good emails that I had saved, SA started working
> very nicely for me (it mainly misses a few of the autoreplies generated
> when someone else receives the virus).

As a counter example, I noticed that once I fed SA enough Swen mails,
which was well above 200, 100% of them were blocked.  When Swen first
surfaced, I was recieving them often enough that it didn't take that
much time to accumulate that many.  Considering that I still see them in
my spam folder, I think it was worth the initial work.

Granted, I have SA set to autolearn as well, so my ham statistics were
already well trained.

Rob


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Re: filtering MS* mails w/ Spamassassin

2003-10-20 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 07:30, Nathan J. Malmberg wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 03:24:42AM -0400, ThanhVu Nguyen wrote:
> > My SA setting blocks most of the spam mails but it doesn't/can't stop
> > these MS mails, no matter how many MS examples I try to feed to it to
> > learn.  Anyone has any hint / howto's ?  
> 
> I found that SA didn't start filtering out the Swen mails until I gave
> it enough non-Swen mails (i.e. ham) to trigger the Bayesian filtering.
> Once I gave it some good emails that I had saved, SA started working
> very nicely for me (it mainly misses a few of the autoreplies generated
> when someone else receives the virus).

By default, you'll need 200 pieces of spam, and 200 pieces of ham before
Bayesian filtering kicks in. A good way to see if it started yet is to
run spamassassin from the command line with the debug and verbose
options. Near the top of the resulting output will be some Bayesian
information. It'll either tell you that it's scanning the message, or
that Bayesian filtering hasn't been activated yet because of something.

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Re: filtering MS* mails w/ Spamassassin

2003-10-18 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 03:24:42AM -0400, ThanhVu Nguyen wrote:
> My SA setting blocks most of the spam mails but it doesn't/can't stop
> these MS mails, no matter how many MS examples I try to feed to it to
> learn.  Anyone has any hint / howto's ?  

Not quite the answer you're looking for, but I have a howto at
http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ on how to reject them at SMTP time.

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Re: filtering MS* mails w/ Spamassassin

2003-10-18 Thread Nathan J. Malmberg
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 03:24:42AM -0400, ThanhVu Nguyen wrote:
> My SA setting blocks most of the spam mails but it doesn't/can't stop
> these MS mails, no matter how many MS examples I try to feed to it to
> learn.  Anyone has any hint / howto's ?  

I found that SA didn't start filtering out the Swen mails until I gave
it enough non-Swen mails (i.e. ham) to trigger the Bayesian filtering.
Once I gave it some good emails that I had saved, SA started working
very nicely for me (it mainly misses a few of the autoreplies generated
when someone else receives the virus).

Nate

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Re: filtering MS* mails w/ Spamassassin

2003-10-18 Thread Clive Menzies
On (18/10/03 03:24), ThanhVu Nguyen wrote:
> My SA setting blocks most of the spam mails but it doesn't/can't stop
> these MS mails, no matter how many MS examples I try to feed to it to
> learn.  Anyone has any hint / howto's ?  

Swen isn't classified as spam and if you search the archive you will
find that mailfilter seems to be the preferred method to remove it from
the server before download.  There have been many posts on this subject.

HTH

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filtering MS* mails w/ Spamassassin

2003-10-18 Thread ThanhVu Nguyen
My SA setting blocks most of the spam mails but it doesn't/can't stop
these MS mails, no matter how many MS examples I try to feed to it to
learn.  Anyone has any hint / howto's ?  

TIA,



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