Re: finding the right .iso for USB install of Squeeze

2010-09-13 Thread Scott Ferguson
 On 13/09/10 08:04, Miles Fidelman wrote:
 Javier Barroso wrote:
 Did you try to download Squeeze alpha1 iso cd from
 http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/index.en.html  ? There are
 links to the correct ftp site:
 For i386 for example:
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_alpha1/i386/iso-cd/

 yes, but...

 1. looks like these have been updated since my inquiry (when I
 downloaded things, vmlinuz and initrd in the /hd-media directory were
 dated 7/23, today they're dated 9/10 - so they look consistent with
 the iso images I downloaded), but...

 2. looks like I may have uncovered a but in the USB installer, after
 booting itself and starting up, it goes and looks for a .iso image -
 BUT it looks on the hard drives, not the USB stick - and, of course,
 doesn't find it

 Anybody understand the installer well enough to tell me how to tell it
 to look on the USB stick (which seems to be /dev/sdc1 and mounted as
 /hd-media).

 Thanks,

 Miles




If all else fails try INSTALL_MEDIA_DEV=/dev/whatever as an install
parameter.
I have just tested the install (with the net iso) - I had no problem -
takes two passes to find the iso on /dev/sda1 though...

Cheers


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Re: finding the right .iso for USB install of Squeeze

2010-09-13 Thread Miles Fidelman

Scott Ferguson wrote:

  On 13/09/10 08:04, Miles Fidelman wrote:
   

Javier Barroso wrote:
 

Did you try to download Squeeze alpha1 iso cd from
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/index.en.html  ? There are
links to the correct ftp site:
   

yes, but...

1. looks like these have been updated since my inquiry (when I
downloaded things, vmlinuz and initrd in the /hd-media directory were
dated 7/23, today they're dated 9/10 - so they look consistent with
the iso images I downloaded), but...

2. looks like I may have uncovered a but in the USB installer, after
booting itself and starting up, it goes and looks for a .iso image -
BUT it looks on the hard drives, not the USB stick - and, of course,
 

Did the install actually fail to find the iso?  If you copy the iso to
the hard drive will the installer find it then??
   

When it was only on the usb stick (/dev/sdc1, mounted as /hd-media) it did not 
find the iso.

When I copied the iso to both / and /boot on my hard drive:
- on the first pass, the installer didn't find it
- on the deep search pass it reported  while one or more possible iso images were 
found, they did not look like valid installer iso images

This time I was using both the installer and mini.iso from the current build 
(today).

I've reported all this as a bug.





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Re: finding the right .iso for USB install of Squeeze

2010-09-13 Thread Miles Fidelman

Scott Ferguson wrote:

If all else fails try INSTALL_MEDIA_DEV=/dev/whatever as an install
parameter.
   

Any suggestion on where to set this?

On startup, the USB installer goes right to language selection - no 
splash screen or other opportunity to adjust the invocation.


I tried adding it to syslinux.cfg (append  INSTALL_MEDIA_DEV=/dev/sdc1) 
but that doesn't seem to work.  Exiting to shell reports that the 
installer thinks INSTALL_MEDIA_DEV=/dev/ - AND now its mounted /dev/sda1 
as /dev/hd-media - it doesn't see the stick at all


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Re: finding the right .iso for USB install of Squeeze

2010-09-13 Thread Miles Fidelman

Miles Fidelman wrote:

Scott Ferguson wrote:

If all else fails try INSTALL_MEDIA_DEV=/dev/whatever as an install
parameter.

Any suggestion on where to set this?

On startup, the USB installer goes right to language selection - no 
splash screen or other opportunity to adjust the invocation.


I tried adding it to syslinux.cfg (append  
INSTALL_MEDIA_DEV=/dev/sdc1) but that doesn't seem to work.  Exiting 
to shell reports that the installer thinks INSTALL_MEDIA_DEV=/dev/ - 
AND now its mounted /dev/sda1 as /dev/hd-media - it doesn't see the 
stick at all
ooops - I had a typo in syslinux.cfg - it actually did say /dev/ - so 
the boot picked up the environment variable


just fixed this and retried
now, after starting the installer, and going through language selection, 
it still can't find the .iso, but

- exiting to shell reports that INSTALL_MEDIA_DEV=/dev/sdc1, but
- it hasn't mounted /dev/sdc1, not even as /hd-media - instead it's 
mounted /dev/sda1 as /hd-media, and even though there's a copy of 
mini.iso in there, it doesn't find it



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Re: finding the right .iso for USB install of Squeeze - update

2010-09-13 Thread Miles Fidelman
For those following this, it turns out that building a USB stick, using 
the daily build netinst ISO seems to work.  Contrary to what might be 
suggested by the documentation pages:

1. DON'T build with the alpha1 release
2. the .iso in /netboot (mini.iso) doesn't work - you have to use the 
netinst .iso


Miles Fidelman

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Re: finding the right .iso for USB install of Squeeze

2010-09-12 Thread Javier Barroso
Hi,

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 I've been trying to install squeeze (testing) onto a sandbox machine, using
 a USB key, and I keep running into (what I think) is a mismatch between the
 boot kernel and the .iso kernel.

 As far as I can tell, the latest version of the USB installer is dated 7/23,
 and the indicated web site does not have a similarly dated CD-ROM .iso.
  Elsewhere, the recommendation is to use the alpha1 RC image - but putting
 that on the USB key yields a can't find kernel modules error during
 install.

Did you try to download Squeeze alpha1 iso cd from
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/index.en.html ? There are
links to the correct ftp site:
For i386 for example:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_alpha1/i386/iso-cd/

With both I guess kernel modules will be found

Regards,


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Re: finding the right .iso for USB install of Squeeze

2010-09-12 Thread Miles Fidelman

Javier Barroso wrote:

Did you try to download Squeeze alpha1 iso cd from
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/index.en.html  ? There are
links to the correct ftp site:
For i386 for example:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_alpha1/i386/iso-cd/
   

yes, but...

1. looks like these have been updated since my inquiry (when I 
downloaded things, vmlinuz and initrd in the /hd-media directory were 
dated 7/23, today they're dated 9/10 - so they look consistent with the 
iso images I downloaded), but...


2. looks like I may have uncovered a but in the USB installer, after 
booting itself and starting up, it goes and looks for a .iso image - BUT 
it looks on the hard drives, not the USB stick - and, of course, doesn't 
find it


Anybody understand the installer well enough to tell me how to tell it 
to look on the USB stick (which seems to be /dev/sdc1 and mounted as 
/hd-media).


Thanks,

Miles



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Re: finding the right .iso for USB install of Squeeze

2010-09-12 Thread Javier Barroso
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
 Javier Barroso wrote:

 Did you try to download Squeeze alpha1 iso cd from
 http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/index.en.html  ? There are
 links to the correct ftp site:
 For i386 for example:
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_alpha1/i386/iso-cd/


 yes, but...

 1. looks like these have been updated since my inquiry (when I downloaded
 things, vmlinuz and initrd in the /hd-media directory were dated 7/23, today
 they're dated 9/10 - so they look consistent with the iso images I
 downloaded), but...

 2. looks like I may have uncovered a but in the USB installer, after booting
 itself and starting up, it goes and looks for a .iso image - BUT it looks on
 the hard drives, not the USB stick - and, of course, doesn't find it

 Anybody understand the installer well enough to tell me how to tell it to
 look on the USB stick (which seems to be /dev/sdc1 and mounted as
 /hd-media).
Seems like it is a bug [1] , you could ask in debian-boot where they
has a full understanding about the system.

Regards,
[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=590678


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Re: finding the right .iso for USB install of Squeeze

2010-09-12 Thread Miles Fidelman

Javier Barroso wrote:

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 12:04 AM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net  wrote:
   

Javier Barroso wrote:
 

Did you try to download Squeeze alpha1 iso cd from
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/index.en.html  ? There are
links to the correct ftp site:
For i386 for example:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_alpha1/i386/iso-cd/

   

yes, but...

1. looks like these have been updated since my inquiry (when I downloaded
things, vmlinuz and initrd in the /hd-media directory were dated 7/23, today
they're dated 9/10 - so they look consistent with the iso images I
downloaded), but...

2. looks like I may have uncovered a but in the USB installer, after booting
itself and starting up, it goes and looks for a .iso image - BUT it looks on
the hard drives, not the USB stick - and, of course, doesn't find it

Anybody understand the installer well enough to tell me how to tell it to
look on the USB stick (which seems to be /dev/sdc1 and mounted as
/hd-media).
 

Seems like it is a bug [1] , you could ask in debian-boot where they
has a full understanding about the system.

   

Ahhh... so there is a list for this!  Thanks!

p.s., I did file a bug report.

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Re: finding the right .iso for USB install of Squeeze

2010-09-12 Thread Scott Ferguson
 On 13/09/10 08:04, Miles Fidelman wrote:
 Javier Barroso wrote:
 Did you try to download Squeeze alpha1 iso cd from
 http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/index.en.html  ? There are
 links to the correct ftp site:
 For i386 for example:
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_alpha1/i386/iso-cd/

 yes, but...

 1. looks like these have been updated since my inquiry (when I
 downloaded things, vmlinuz and initrd in the /hd-media directory were
 dated 7/23, today they're dated 9/10 - so they look consistent with
 the iso images I downloaded), but...

 2. looks like I may have uncovered a but in the USB installer, after
 booting itself and starting up, it goes and looks for a .iso image -
 BUT it looks on the hard drives, not the USB stick - and, of course,
 doesn't find it

 Anybody understand the installer well enough to tell me how to tell it
 to look on the USB stick (which seems to be /dev/sdc1 and mounted as
 /hd-media).

 Thanks,

 Miles





You shouldn't need to tell the installer anything - it's a little
confusing because it appears to not find the iso file on the usb key.
Bear with it, the installer does find it eventually - it seems to check
drive devices before cycling back through the drive list checking
partitions on the devices.

Did the install actually fail to find the iso?  If you copy the iso to
the hard drive will the installer find it then??

Cheers


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finding the right .iso for USB install of Squeeze

2010-09-11 Thread Miles Fidelman

Hi Folks,

I've been trying to install squeeze (testing) onto a sandbox machine, 
using a USB key, and I keep running into (what I think) is a mismatch 
between the boot kernel and the .iso kernel.


As far as I can tell, the latest version of the USB installer is dated 
7/23, and the indicated web site does not have a similarly dated CD-ROM 
.iso.  Elsewhere, the recommendation is to use the alpha1 RC image - but 
putting that on the USB key yields a can't find kernel modules error 
during install.


I've also tried the netinst mini-iso image, found in the same place as 
the USB installer - but that gives the same error message.


Any suggestions as to where I might find a consistent set of pieces to 
achieve USB install (or is there a better list to query)?


Thanks,

Miles Fidelman

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Re: finding the right .iso for USB install of Squeeze

2010-09-11 Thread Morgan Gangwere
On 9/11/2010 8:44 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
[stuff]

Take a look at GRUB4DOS, which has a way to boot ISOs. Or, use
USBCreator. I think your /best/ bet though is going to be using GRUB4DOS.

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