Re: free alternative acroread

2009-10-02 Thread Girish Kulkarni

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, Andreas Goesele wrote:

Is there any free pdf-reader with a similar option? Or, is there any
easy way to achieve the same effect with free pdf-readers which
don't have the option?


The print menu in Evince lets you scale the document and watch a
preview (see the Page Setup tab).  And the Print Setup menu lets you
specify paper size.  Wouldn't this do what you want?

Girish.

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Re: free alternative acroread

2009-10-02 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:31:36 +0530 (IST)
Girish Kulkarni gir...@athene.org.in wrote:

 On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, Andreas Goesele wrote:
  Is there any free pdf-reader with a similar option? Or, is there any
  easy way to achieve the same effect with free pdf-readers which
  don't have the option?
 
 The print menu in Evince lets you scale the document and watch a
 preview (see the Page Setup tab).  And the Print Setup menu lets you
 specify paper size.  Wouldn't this do what you want?
 
 Girish.
 

‎The missing part is doing it automatically and by default on documents. Having
to do it each time is annoying and can be enough not to switch. Personally I
haven't found any PDF reader that competes with acroread for text quality,
image rotation and presentation support.


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Re: free alternative acroread

2009-10-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:54:41 -0400
Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Celejar,

  option Fit to printable area in the print dialog.  
 Can you describe exactly what that option does?

Just what it says;  Reduces pages to fit the printable area of the
currently selected paper size, whilst maintaining aspect ratio.

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Re: free alternative acroread

2009-10-01 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 01 October 2009 08:34:19 Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:54:41 -0400
 Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote:

   option Fit to printable area in the print dialog.
 
  Can you describe exactly what that option does?

 Just what it says;  Reduces pages to fit the printable area of the
 currently selected paper size, whilst maintaining aspect ratio.


Hi, Brad -

Does it not simply do exactly what it says - fit - so that it decreases the 
image if it is larger than the printable area, but _increases_ the image if 
it is smaller?

Lisi



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Re: free alternative acroread

2009-10-01 Thread David Baron
On Thursday 01 October 2009 08:54:45 debian-user-digest-
requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:
  really would like to use only free software, but unfortunately
 acroread has a feature I didn't find so far in free alternatives: The
 option Fit to printable area in the print dialog.
 
 I have that always switched on, and as I have eye problems it's really
 very helpful for me.
 
 Is there any free pdf-reader with a similar option? Or, is there any
 easy way to achieve the same effect with free pdf-readers which don't
 have the option?
 

I have not used acroread in ages. Okular or xpdf work just fine.
There is no specific fit to printable area option on either, but you could 
check out various pdf tools around which can edit/modify pdf files.


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Re: free alternative acroread

2009-10-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:30:11 +0100
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Lisi,

 Does it not simply do exactly what it says - fit - so that it
 decreases the image if it is larger than the printable area, but
 _increases_ the image if it is smaller?

Ah, good point.  Hang on

With the two options Fit to printable area and Shrink to printable
area yes, the former will also increase the size to fit.  The latter,
obviously, doesn't increase size to avoid any problems with images for
example.

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Re: Re: free alternative acroread

2009-10-01 Thread Andreas Goesele

IIUC this feature scalestranslates the document so as to minimize the
margin (and hence maximize the size of the printed text, without
cropping).


Yes, that's it.


If that's the case, no I sadly don't know of a Free Software tool that
does that for you.


Sad news.


I would love to see a tool that does this automatically for me
(especially if it can do it for 2-up as well).


Me too :-)


Fundamentally, it
shouldn't be that hard.  IIUC running the PS (or PDF) file through
gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=bbox should return the needed
info about area actual used by the document, after which it should be
easy to scale/translate/rotate to make it fit on a page of any
given size.  But I never got around to trying it out.


Would be nice, if somebody could take this up ...

Andreas Gösele


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free alternative acroread

2009-09-30 Thread Andreas Goesele
Hi!

I really would like to use only free software, but unfortunately
acroread has a feature I didn't find so far in free alternatives: The
option Fit to printable area in the print dialog.

I have that always switched on, and as I have eye problems it's really
very helpful for me.

Is there any free pdf-reader with a similar option? Or, is there any
easy way to achieve the same effect with free pdf-readers which don't
have the option?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Andreas Gösele

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Re: free alternative acroread

2009-09-30 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:46:18 +0200
Andreas Goesele goes...@hfph.mwn.de wrote:

 Hi!
 
 I really would like to use only free software, but unfortunately
 acroread has a feature I didn't find so far in free alternatives: The
 option Fit to printable area in the print dialog.

Can you describe exactly what that option does?

 I have that always switched on, and as I have eye problems it's really
 very helpful for me.
 
 Is there any free pdf-reader with a similar option? Or, is there any
 easy way to achieve the same effect with free pdf-readers which don't
 have the option?

Celejar
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Re: free alternative acroread

2009-09-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
 I really would like to use only free software, but unfortunately
 acroread has a feature I didn't find so far in free alternatives: The
 option Fit to printable area in the print dialogue.
[...]
 Is there any free pdf-reader with a similar option? Or, is there any
 easy way to achieve the same effect with free pdf-readers which don't
 have the option?

IIUC this feature scalestranslates the document so as to minimize the
margin (and hence maximize the size of the printed text, without
cropping).

If that's the case, no I sadly don't know of a Free Software tool that
does that for you.  But I routinely do it by hand (for 2-up printing,
in my case) with pstops: I convert from PDF to PS, then run it through
pstops with some tentative scaletranslate, run `gv' on the output and
then re-run pstops with different arguments (leaving `gv' refresh its
display on-the-fly) until I like what I see.

I would love to see a tool that does this automatically for me
(especially if it can do it for 2-up as well).  Fundamentally, it
shouldn't be that hard.  IIUC running the PS (or PDF) file through
gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=bbox should return the needed
info about area actual used by the document, after which it should be
easy to scale/translate/rotate to make it fit on a page of any
given size.  But I never got around to trying it out.


Stefan


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