Re: french hyphenation patterns

2001-02-06 Thread Jitse Niesen
On 5 Feb 2001, Ben Pfaff wrote:

 I'm currently trying to figure out how to typeset French properly with
 LaTeX under Debian.  Most everything seems to work properly [...]
 However, hyphenation doesn't come out correctly.  I get the following
 output from TeX:
 [...]
 Package babel Warning: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for
 (babel)the language `French'
 (babel)I will use the patterns loaded for \language=0 
 instead.
 [...]

You need to build a new so-called format file which includes the
hyphenation patterns for French. To do so, run the program 'texconfig' (as
root), choose the option hyphen and uncomment the line about French, ie.
remove the percent sign in front of the lines:

french frhyphen
=patois

All should fine afterwards. Please feel free to ask if the above is not
clear or does not work.

Jitse Niesen



Re: french hyphenation patterns

2001-02-06 Thread Ben Pfaff
Jitse Niesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 5 Feb 2001, Ben Pfaff wrote:
 
  I'm currently trying to figure out how to typeset French properly with
  LaTeX under Debian.  Most everything seems to work properly [...]
  However, hyphenation doesn't come out correctly.  I get the following
  output from TeX:
  [...]
  Package babel Warning: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for
  (babel)the language `French'
  (babel)I will use the patterns loaded for \language=0 
  instead.
  [...]
 
 You need to build a new so-called format file which includes the
 hyphenation patterns for French. To do so, run the program 'texconfig' (as
 root), choose the option hyphen and uncomment the line about French, ie.
 remove the percent sign in front of the lines:
 
 french frhyphen
 =patois
 
 All should fine afterwards. Please feel free to ask if the above is not
 clear or does not work.

Thanks for the suggestion.  When I go to do this, I find that
there are similar lines already in the file:

% French, TWO lines!
french  frhyph.tex
=patois

So I modified the whitespace in the file a little to force
texconfig to rebuild the formats.  It then did rebuild
them. However, even then hyphenation doesn't work properly--I
still get the same error message as above.

Just to see if it would make a difference, I downgraded the tetex
packages to the latest stable versions (I normally run
bleeding-edge unstable) but nothing changed.

Any further suggestions?

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 I told them you were the best.  Now you damn well better be.
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french hyphenation patterns

2001-02-05 Thread Ben Pfaff
[CCs appreciated, I'm not subscribed to debian-user.]

I'm currently trying to figure out how to typeset French properly with
LaTeX under Debian.  Most everything seems to work properly if I use
something like the following for my LaTeX file:

\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{t1enc}
\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
\usepackage[french]{babel}

\begin{document}

Insensiblement nous tombons dans des situations périlleuses, dont nous
pouvions aisément nous garantir, mais dont nous ne pouvons plus nous
tirer sans des efforts héroïques qui nous effaryent, et nous tombons
enfin dans l'abîme en disant à Dieu :  Pourquoi m'as-tu fait si
faible ?  Mais malgré nous il répond à nos consciences :  Je t'ai
fait trop faible pour sortir du gouffre, parce que je t'ai fait assez
for pour n'y pas tomber. 

\end{document}

However, hyphenation doesn't come out correctly.  I get the following
output from TeX:

blp:~/frn420(0)$ latex \\nonstopmode\\input explication.tex
This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1)
LaTeX2e 1999/12/01 patch level 1
Loading CZ hyphenation patterns: Pavel Sevecek, v3, 1995
Loading SK hyphenation patterns: Jana Chlebikova, 1992
(explication.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 1999/09/10 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/latin1.def))
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.def
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/switch.def))
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/frenchb.ldf

Package babel Warning: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for
(babel)the language `French'
(babel)I will use the patterns loaded for \language=0 
instead.

)) (explication.aux) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/cyrillic/ot2wncyr.fd) [1]
(explication.aux) )
Output written on explication.dvi (1 page, 768 bytes).
Transcript written on explication.log.

The No hyphenation patterns were loaded for the language `French' is
the part that worries me.  I've consulted the documentation on this
issue, but it seems to say that if `french' is turned on in
/etc/texmf/language.dat (which it certainly seems to be) then French
hyphenation patterns should get loaded.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Ben.

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 smart people on the planet work somewhere else.
--Eric S. Raymond



Re: french hyphenation patterns

2001-02-05 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:03:39PM -0500, Ben Pfaff wrote:
 [CCs appreciated, I'm not subscribed to debian-user.]
 
 I'm currently trying to figure out how to typeset French properly with
 LaTeX under Debian.  Most everything seems to work properly if I use
 something like the following for my LaTeX file:
 
 \documentclass{article}
 
 \usepackage{t1enc}
 \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
 \usepackage[french]{babel}
 
 \begin{document}
 
 Insensiblement nous tombons dans des situations périlleuses, dont nous
 pouvions aisément nous garantir, mais dont nous ne pouvons plus nous
 tirer sans des efforts héroïques qui nous effaryent, et nous tombons
 enfin dans l'abîme en disant à Dieu :  Pourquoi m'as-tu fait si
 faible ?  Mais malgré nous il répond à nos consciences :  Je t'ai
 fait trop faible pour sortir du gouffre, parce que je t'ai fait assez
 for pour n'y pas tomber. 
 
 \end{document}
 
 However, hyphenation doesn't come out correctly.  I get the following
 output from TeX:
 
 blp:~/frn420(0)$ latex \\nonstopmode\\input explication.tex
 This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1)
 LaTeX2e 1999/12/01 patch level 1
 Loading CZ hyphenation patterns: Pavel Sevecek, v3, 1995
 Loading SK hyphenation patterns: Jana Chlebikova, 1992
 (explication.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
 Document Class: article 1999/09/10 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.sty)
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/latin1.def))
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.def
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/switch.def))
 (/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/frenchb.ldf
 
 Package babel Warning: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for
 (babel)the language `French'
 (babel)I will use the patterns loaded for \language=0 
 instead.
 
 )) (explication.aux) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/cyrillic/ot2wncyr.fd) [1]
 (explication.aux) )
 Output written on explication.dvi (1 page, 768 bytes).
 Transcript written on explication.log.
 
 The No hyphenation patterns were loaded for the language `French' is
 the part that worries me.  I've consulted the documentation on this
 issue, but it seems to say that if `french' is turned on in
 /etc/texmf/language.dat (which it certainly seems to be) then French
 hyphenation patterns should get loaded.
 
 Any suggestions?

Well, this is no help, but I ran your snippet here locally and it worked
fine.  (Debian Unstable, last update about 2 days ago)

I've only made 1 modification to the stock install, and that was to
enable the ConTeXt formats.

$ latex frenchy
This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3.1)
(frenchy.tex
LaTeX2e 1999/12/01 patch level 1
Babel v3.6Z and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german,
ngerman, nohyphenation, loaded.
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 1999/09/10 v1.4a Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/t1enc.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/latin1.def))
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/frenchb.ldf
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/generic/babel/babel.def))) (frenchy.aux)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/cyrillic/ot2wncyr.fd) [1] (frenchy.aux) )
Output written on frenchy.dvi (1 page, 768 bytes).
Transcript written on frenchy.log.


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