Re: ftape format warning!!!

1996-08-26 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
Hi Daniel --

You asked:
 Just one question...
 
 Does taper implicitly call 'mt'?

Well, no.  In fact, taper does its own ioctl calls, which is why it
is behind the other general-purpose utilities in supporting a broad array
of hardware.  I spent a long time studying both taper and tob, and I'm
strongly convinced that tob is the way to go. It is a shell script which
uses well-tested utilities to do the I/O, it's got a robust archive
system, and excellent (clear) documentation.  Give it a try.

Good luck,
Susan Kleinmann



Re: ftape format warning!!!

1996-08-20 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel

  Ken Gaugler writes:
  Ken  I had a nasty surprise using ftape to dump my filesystems for
  Ken archival right before repartitioning my hard drive.  I wanted to let
  Ken people know about this in case they were not already aware.
  Ken 
  Ken If you plan to dump several filesystems to one tape (that is, more
  Ken than one session on a tape) you need to erase the tape using mt
  Ken FIRST!!!  Otherwise you will not be able to read any sessions beyond
  Ken the first.

You could have read the Ftape-HOWTO before attempting to do this. It says:

  6.4.  Putting more than one tar file on a tape

  To put more than one tar file on a tape you must have the mt utility.
  You will probably have it already, if you got one of the mainline
  distributions, e.g.  Slackware or Debian.

  tar generates a single Tape ARchive (that's why it is called `tar')
  and knows nothing about multiple files or positioning of a tape, it
  just reads or writes from/to a device. mt knows everyting about moving
  the tape back and forth, but nothing about reading the data off the
  tape.  As you might have guessed, tar and mt in conjunction, does the
  trick.

  By using the nrft[0-3] (nftape) device, you can use `mt' to position
  the tape the correct place (`mt -f /dev/nftape fsf 2' means step over
  two ``file marks'', i.e.  tar files) and then use tar to read or write
  the relevant data.

  Ken There were only two sessions on my tape.  Sadly, the second session
  Ken contained the /usr filesystem, so I lost everything :(

Moreover, you can simplify your life by using a program as tob which reads
from several filesystems. Debian tob's package is in the admin section.

--
Dirk Eddelbuttel http://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd



Re: ftape format warning!!!

1996-08-20 Thread Lars Wirzenius
 There were only two sessions on my tape.  Sadly, the second session
 contained the /usr filesystem, so I lost everything :(

Whenever doing backups, _verify_ your backups, even if it doubles the time
it takes to do them.

Oh, and whenever you're going to do something dangerous, _double_ your
backups. It's _not_ funny to try to restore from the backup you verified
yesterday, only to notice that something bad happened a floppy over the
night. Don't ask why I know this.

Using modern floppies (3.5) for backups is not a good anyway, but sometimes
you can't afford a tape drive. Not that tapes don't get errors, too.

If it's worth doing, it's worth doing properly. That applies to paranoia, too.

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Re: ftape format warning!!!

1996-08-20 Thread Christoph Lameter
: 
: There were only two sessions on my tape.  Sadly, the second session
: contained the /usr filesystem, so I lost everything :(
Rejoice! you did not lose anything! Just reinstall and restore what you
have. All stuff in usr are executables and other read-only stuff as 
per FSSTND. (except if you had sources in /usr/src or customizations in
/usr/local)



Re: ftape format warning!!!

1996-08-20 Thread Daniel Lynes
On Mon, 19 Aug 96 16:33 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  tar generates a single Tape ARchive (that's why it is called `tar')
  and knows nothing about multiple files or positioning of a tape, it
  just reads or writes from/to a device. mt knows everyting about moving
  the tape back and forth, but nothing about reading the data off the
  tape.  As you might have guessed, tar and mt in conjunction, does the

Just one question...

Does taper implicitly call 'mt'?

Thanks in advance.



ftape format warning!!!

1996-08-19 Thread Ken Gaugler
I had a nasty surprise using ftape to dump my filesystems for archival
right before repartitioning my hard drive.  I wanted to let people
know about this in case they were not already aware.

If you plan to dump several filesystems to one tape (that is, more than
one session on a tape) you need to erase the tape using mt FIRST!!!
Otherwise you will not be able to read any sessions beyond the first.

There were only two sessions on my tape.  Sadly, the second session
contained the /usr filesystem, so I lost everything :(

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