Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Brian White wrote: Hmmm... As long as we're talking about features... Is there a way to cycle through visible windows? I have a virtual desktop (as opposed to multiple desktops) and it would be wonderful if I could cycle between the visible windows without cycling to windows off screen (I have Fn keys to move between screens). This should make meta-TAB go to the next non-iconic window on the current page on the current desk: Key Tab A M Next [!Iconic CurrentPage] Focus If your _really_ mean visible windows, you could say: Key Tab A M Next [!Iconic CurrentPage Visible] Focus which adds the contraint that the window must also be completely unobscured by others -- however, I don't think it's so much use (most of my windows tend to overlap to some extent). Bear in mind that meta-TAB is a jolly useful key combination in eg: bash - dynamic history completion emacs - dabbrev-expand (basically a magic do the right thing expansion) I have it bound to C-TAB, but don't use it much. Also, remember that if you want to Focus and Raise, you need to write the minimal FocusRaise function: AddToFunc FocusRaise I Focus + I Raise Austin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
Is there any way under fvwm2 to make all transient windows automatically get focus when they appear? It would be much more convienient than having to move the mouse to that window. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe, hope like hell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
Is there any way under fvwm2 to make all transient windows automatically get focus when they appear? It would be much more convienient than having to move the mouse to that window. i think i am not answering exactly what are you asking, but did you try putting Style * ClickToFocus in ~/.fvwm2rc (or the system one)? --alex-- -- | I believe the moment is at hand when, by a paranoiac and active | | advance of the mind, it will be possible (simultaneously with | | automatism and other passive states) to systematize confusion | | and thus to help to discredit completely the world of reality. | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Brian White wrote: Is there any way under fvwm2 to make all transient windows automatically get focus when they appear? It would be much more convienient than having to move the mouse to that window. I don't think so. You can give focus to any window easily, but the command has to be run from a function, and there is no function invoked when a window is captured by fvwm2. I'll forward your feature-request to the fvwm mailing list. Thanks, Austin (Debian fvwm maintainer) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any way under fvwm2 to make all transient windows automatically get focus when they appear? It would be much more convienient than having to move the mouse to that window. Someone created a patch for fvwm2 to do just these kind of things. Check http://www.concentric.net/~Isogai/fvwm2/fvwm2.shtml Ciao, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
Brian White wrote: Is there any way under fvwm2 to make all transient windows automatically get focus when they appear? It would be much more convienient than having to move the mouse to that window. If you have any windows that pop up automatically, like calander reminders, error windows, etcetera, this can be a *very* undesirable feature. For myself, being stuck with using NT on a daily basis, such windows (like crashing applications :) pop up and steal the focus quite often. The problem is that if this happens *as* I'm typing or clicking a mouse button, the new window gets the event and just might disappear before I get a chance to read it! Hmmm, I hope that wasn't too important... Who knows what I just denied or agreed to! Other times, applications might be launched and I suddenly find myself in the middle of another program with no idea how I got there. At best, the machine just beeps at me several times. What I wouldn't give to have genuine sloppy focus in every GUI. (BTW, setting the ActiveWindowTracking resource in NT doesn't prevent this problem - you have to move the mouse to get the focus *back* to the window you were in once the transient appears.) My 2 cents, Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
Is there any way under fvwm2 to make all transient windows automatically get focus when they appear? It would be much more convienient than having to move the mouse to that window. I don't think so. You can give focus to any window easily, but the command has to be run from a function, and there is no function invoked when a window is captured by fvwm2. I'll forward your feature-request to the fvwm mailing list. Hmmm... As long as we're talking about features... Is there a way to cycle through visible windows? I have a virtual desktop (as opposed to multiple desktops) and it would be wonderful if I could cycle between the visible windows without cycling to windows off screen (I have Fn keys to move between screens). In case you hadn't guessed, I'm an elly (as in elephant). I really hate using the mouse. grin As opposed to a minnie, who really likes mice. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Debian GNU/Linux! Search it at http://insite.verisim.com/search/debian/simple -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
Is there any way under fvwm2 to make all transient windows automatically get focus when they appear? It would be much more convienient than having to move the mouse to that window. Perhaps for you, but for me, it's just the opposite. I hate touching the mouse. When I do a search in netscape, for example, a transient pops up and then I must move the mouse to that window before I can type anything. This slows me down immensely. I don't think this should be something that is always active, but I would like to be able to enable it. The problem is that if this happens *as* I'm typing or clicking a mouse button, the new window gets the event and just might disappear before I get a chance to read it! Hmmm, I hope that wasn't too important... Who knows what I just denied or agreed to! Other times, applications might be launched and I suddenly find myself in the middle of another program with no idea how I got there. At best, the machine just beeps at me several times. Perhaps it would be best if the transient only automatically got focus if its parent already had focus? Perhaps this option could be tri-state: never, always, if-parent-has-focus. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Generated by Signify v1.04. For this and more, visit http://www.verisim.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
Brian White wrote: Perhaps it would be best if the transient only automatically got focus if its parent already had focus? Perhaps this option could be tri-state: never, always, if-parent-has-focus. ^^^ This is an excellent idea. It would solve both our problems. Perhaps this could be added to the suggestion to the fvwm maintainers? Happily identifying myself as an elly, Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
On Thu, Mar 19, 1998 at 12:32:10PM -0500, Brian White wrote: Perhaps it would be best if the transient only automatically got focus if its parent already had focus? Perhaps this option could be tri-state: never, always, if-parent-has-focus. Great idea! If this could be a style option then it could be set according to the program in the window anyway. Unfortunately a friend has said that he thought that there were no more bits left for any more style commands. Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Linux - www.debian.org http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett | Because bloated, unstable PGP key available on public key servers | operating systems are from MS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
Hi, In fvwm2, you can set your key bindings to do something like that. Key F10 RAPrev [*] Focus Key F11 RANext [*] Focus Manoj __ Current [conditions] command Performs command on the current window if it satisfies all conditions. Conditions include Iconic, !Iconic, Visible, !Visible, Sticky, !Sticky, Maximized, !Maximized, Transient, !Transient, Raised, !Raised, CurrentDesk, CurrentPage, and CurrentPageAnyDesk. In addition, the condition may include a window name to match to. The window name may include the wildcards * and ?. The window name, icon name, class, and resource will be considered when attempting to find a match. The window name can begin with ! which will prevent command if any of the window name, icon name, class or resource match. Next [conditions] command Performs command (typically Focus) on the next window which satisfies all conditions. Conditions are the same as for Current with the addition of CirculateHit which overrides the CirculateSkip style attribute and CirculateHitIcon which overrides the CirculateSkipIcon style attribute for iconified windows. None [arguments] command Performs command if no window which satisfies all conditions exists. Conditions are the same as for Next. Prev Performs command (typically Focus) on the previous window which satisfies all conditions. Conditions are the same as for Next. The special symbols $w and $0 through $9 are available in the ComplexFunctions or Macros, or whatever you want to call them. Within a macro, $w is expanded to the window-id (expressed in hex, i.e. 0x10023c) of the window for which the macro was called. $0 though $9 are the arguments to the macro, so if you call Key F10 RAFunction MailFunction xmh -font fixed and MailFunction is AddToFunc MailFunction I Next [$0] Iconify -1 + I Next [$0] focus + I None [$0] Exec $0 $1 Then the last line of the function becomes + I None [xmh] Exec xmh -font fixed The expansion is performed as the function is executed, so you can use the same function with all sorts of different arguments. I could use Key F11 RAFunction MailFunction zmail -bg pink in the same .fvwm2rc, if I wanted. An example of using $w is: AddToFunc PrintFunction I Raise + I Exec xdpr -id $w Note that $$ is expanded to $. __ -- I have two very rare photographs: one is a picture of Houdini locking his keys in his car; the other is a rare photograph of Norman Rockwell beating up a child. Steven Wright Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
Hi, Brian == Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian Perhaps it would be best if the transient only automatically Brian got focus if its parent already had focus? Perhaps this option Brian could be tri-state: never, always, if-parent-has-focus. Couls you see if the Next [*] Focus bound to, say, F12 would solve it for you? I would rather not see the default change. manoj -- Men are never so likely to settle a question rightly as when they discuss it freely. -- Macaulay Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fvwm question: can I make transients take focus?
Brian Perhaps it would be best if the transient only automatically Brian got focus if its parent already had focus? Perhaps this option Brian could be tri-state: never, always, if-parent-has-focus. Couls you see if the Next [*] Focus bound to, say, F12 would solve it for you? I would rather not see the default change. I wasn't thinking of changing the default. In the above idea, the default setting would be never, which is how it behaves now. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Touch passion when it comes your way. It's rare enough as it is; don't walk away when it calls you by name. -- Marcus (Babylon 5) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
