Re: having problem with locales ?

2006-03-07 Thread Michelle Konzack
Merhaba Mehmet,

Am 2006-02-26 04:31:16, schrieb Mehmet Fatih Akbulut:
 hi all,
 which locales should i select to see characters like ?,?,ç,ö,?,ü correctly
 on konsole ?
 en_US UTF-8 doesnt show them right :'(

It will, if you install the right FONT.
I am using cyberbit for my xterm.

 Cheers,
 MFA

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Re: having problem with locales ?

2006-02-26 Thread Magnus Therning
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 07:49:27PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote:

On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Mehmet Fatih Akbulut wrote:

 hi all,
which locales should i select to see characters like ?,?,?,?,?,? correctly
on konsole ?
en_US UTF-8 doesnt show them right :'(
an example output of a php code: [in english: file successfully opened and
then closed.]
Dosya ba?ar? ile a??ld? ve kapat?ld?.  which is what i want to see.
Dosya ba?ar?? ile ald?? ve kapat??ld??.  which is what i see now ...
O.S. and all installed programs are in english [so i dont want to switch
locales to tr_TR], but sometimes i need the above native characters.
what should i do to see such characters correctly ?
many thanks in advance.



en_US is english .. utf-8 by itself doesn't mean anything
its usually gonna be  xx_yy.utf-8 and other case sensitive variables

you have to set the proper LC variables ( a couple of the dozen+
variables ) if you want a mixture of some characters and not others ...
and probably its keyboard dependent too

Often it's enough to set only LANG.

/M

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Re: having problem with locales ?

2006-02-26 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Mehmet Fatih Akbulut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 which locales should i select to see characters like ı,ş,ç,ö,ğ,ü
 correctly on konsole ? en_US UTF-8 doesnt show them right.

NOTE: this message is in UTF-8; it will not display correctly on a
non-UTF-8 system.

I think you haven't selected the en_US.UTF-8 locale successfully. What
does the locale command say? Perhaps you did not really generate the
en_US.UTF-8 locale?

Any UTF-8 locale should show UTF-8 texts in the same way. The difference
between the various UTF-8 locales is only in the user interface (the
language of menus, warnings, etc.), not in the encoding or displaying of
texts.

In this case, what you want to see is e.g., a Turkish dotless i (ı),
which is 0xc4 0xb1 in UTF-8. What you see instead is ı. In ISO-8859, Ä
is 0xc4, ± is 0xb1. So it seems that in your case, the application
generates proper UTF-8, but your system still uses some kind of ISO-8859
character set. Switching to any kind of UTF-8 locale (which can be done
in Debian by setting e.g. LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in /etc/environment) should
solve the problem, I think. IMHO Debian should do this by default.

Regards, Jan
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Re: having problem with locales ?

2006-02-26 Thread Mehmet Fatih Akbulut
hi again,#cat /etc/environmentLANGUAGE=en_US:en_GB:enLANG=en_US.UTF-8this is what /etc/environment contains.and ; localhost:~# dpkg-reconfigure localesGenerating locales (this might take a while)...
 en_US.ISO-8859-1... done en_US.UTF-8... done tr_TR.ISO-8859-9... done tr_TR.UTF-8... doneGeneration complete.i selected en_US.UTF-8 as my locales. but still not able to see characters that specific to Turkish Language.



having problem with locales ?

2006-02-25 Thread Mehmet Fatih Akbulut
hi all,which locales should i select to see characters like ı,ş,ç,ö,ğ,ü correctly on konsole ?en_US UTF-8 doesnt show them right :'(an example output of a php code: [in english: file successfully opened and then closed.]
Dosya başarı ile açıldı ve kapatıldı.  which is what i want to see.Dosya baÅarı ile açıldı ve kapatıldı.  which is what i see now ...
O.S. and all installed programs are in english [so i dont want to switch locales to tr_TR], but sometimes i need the above native characters.what should i do to see such characters correctly ?many thanks in advance.
Cheers,MFA


Re: having problem with locales ?

2006-02-25 Thread Alvin Oga

On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Mehmet Fatih Akbulut wrote:

 hi all,
which locales should i select to see characters like ý,þ,ç,ö,ð,ü correctly
on konsole ?
en_US UTF-8 doesnt show them right :'(
an example output of a php code: [in english: file successfully opened and
then closed.]
Dosya baþarý ile açýldý ve kapatýldý.  which is what i want to see.
Dosya baÅarı ile açıldı ve kapatıldı.  which is what i see now ...
O.S. and all installed programs are in english [so i dont want to switch
locales to tr_TR], but sometimes i need the above native characters.
what should i do to see such characters correctly ?
many thanks in advance.



en_US is english .. utf-8 by itself doesn't mean anything
its usually gonna be  xx_yy.utf-8 and other case sensitive variables

you have to set the proper LC variables ( a couple of the dozen+
variables ) if you want a mixture of some characters and not others ...
and probably its keyboard dependent too

c ya
alvin