Helix GNOME and Debian GNOME incompatible
Hi folks, hi Peter, I just had sawfish malfunction in a strange way: I've bound M-F10 to Popup Window Menu. But that suddenly stopped working... and worse, even clicking into the window icon for the popup window did nothing. So I investigated... reinstalling a couple things. And, this morning, I found it: there were updated packages for the Debian version of the rep lisp interpreter which sawfish is built on. Now I had rep from Debian and sawfish from helix (the Debian upgrade is not installable yet). I removed all sawfish and rep packages, and installed the helix versions only... and everything's back to normal. HTHS, Bye, J PS: Peter, could you get the name change of the Helix packages done some time soon? Would have avoided this... PPS: Another thing that failed was when clicking on any sawfish item in the GNOME CC the capplet hung (using up all CPU it got). PPPS: More details on request... -- Jürgen A. Erhard[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (GERMANY) 0721 27326 My WebHome: http://members.tripod.com/Juergen_Erhard Mesa - Free OpenGL API (http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~brianp/Mesa.html) No matter how cynical I get, I can't keep up. -- Bruce Schneier pgphGOCNzMTmA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Helix gnome on debian 2.2....
use >apt-get install task-helix-gnome after you set up your sources.list file. The install instructions at http://www.helixcode.com are very good. I installed helix-gnome from fvwm2 without a hitch (I did have to restart my potato box though) but since then I have hosed sawmill but I think that this is a seperate issue. Rus wrote: Hi, an introduction.. my name's Rus.. I've been using RedHat for a bit.. and now I'm making the jump to debs.. :-)Anyways... I'm just wondering if their is anything I should know about installing Helix gnome on top of Debian 2.2? I don't just want to 'upgrade what ive got'.. I'd also like all the new programs/utilities/etc. that make up the Helix install...Also would i be correct in saying that I shouldn't have gnome running while I download and install?I dunno.. I just don't want to kill of my Debian install.. whilse also being able to have the funky looking verison of gnome that my RedHat mate has!! :-)Anyways, thankyou very much for you time,Rus
Helix gnome on debian 2.2....
Hi, an introduction.. my name's Rus.. I've been using RedHat for a bit.. and now I'm making the jump to debs.. :-) Anyways... I'm just wondering if their is anything I should know about installing Helix gnome on top of Debian 2.2? I don't just want to 'upgrade what ive got'.. I'd also like all the new programs/utilities/etc. that make up the Helix install... Also would i be correct in saying that I shouldn't have gnome running while I download and install? I dunno.. I just don't want to kill of my Debian install.. whilse also being able to have the funky looking verison of gnome that my RedHat mate has!! :-) Anyways, thankyou very much for you time, Rus
Re: Helix gnome on debian 2.2....
On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 07:20:49AM +0100 or thereabouts, Rus wrote: Hi, an introduction.. my name's Rus.. I've been using RedHat for a bit.. and now I'm making the jump to debs.. :-) Anyways... I'm just wondering if their is anything I should know about installing Helix gnome on top of Debian 2.2? I don't just want to 'upgrade what ive got'.. I'd also like all the new programs/utilities/etc. that make up the Helix install... Also would i be correct in saying that I shouldn't have gnome running while I download and install? I dunno.. I just don't want to kill of my Debian install.. whilse also being able to have the funky looking verison of gnome that my RedHat mate has!! :-) Anyways, thankyou very much for you time, Rus you need this in your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian woody main then do: 1. apt-get update 2. apt-get install task-helix-gnome 3. make coffee 4. sit back and watch doing this in console is better since you need to restart your X when it's done. -- Who's watching the watchmen? ICQ: 15096825
RE: helix-gnome for Debian 2.2 ?
Thanks for helping me understand how the Debian apt-get program can be used instead of the Helix-Gnome updater utility to install the latest version of Gnome from the HelixCode web site. Here is a summary of what I've learned: 1. Login as root. Note: I assume that Gnome and maybe even X should not be running when you upgrade the helix-gnome components, so use the command /etc/init.d/gdm stop to get completely out of X and Gnome before starting. Do the following from the bash command line. 2. Add deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/Debian unstable main to the bottom of the list in /etc/apt/sources.list using the text editor of your choice (I use ae or the editor in mc.) 3. Connect to the Internet (I use pon Prodigy.) 4. Run apt-get update to download a list of packages and update your system's package database. 5. Run apt-get upgrade to download and install any packages that have been updated. 6. Assuming everything downloaded and installed ok, disconnect from the internet (I use poff) and restart your system. I guess you could also use /etc/init.d/gdm start to just restart gdm, but being used to Windows I just like to reboot for good measure. smile Success story not: Even thought all of this seemed to work as it was supposed to, I never did get my Gnome upgraded because the files were too big and my connection kept timing out. I figure that this was caused by my poor phone-line quality and slow Internet connection (26,000 bps) but I guess it could also be that something is misconfigured. Web browsing with either Lynx or Navigator seems to work fine. Oh well, I'll just wait and order another CD when the next version is out. Cheers, Dexter
Re: helix-gnome for Debian 2.2 ?
Eric == Eric G Miller egm2@jps.net writes: Eric On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:10:15AM -0700, Dexter Graphic wrote: apt-get install task-helix-gnome? Does anyone know if the helix-gnome updater will work with Debian 2.2? I have the helix-gnome 1.0 CD and a very slow connection so it would be nice if I could just update the parts of gnome that have changed in version 1.2. My concern is that the updater works with Red Hat packages rather than Debian packages. They do have Debian packages (and nice ones at that... I've been running Helix-GNOME here since shortly after last LinuxTag). I can't tell you about their binary installer app, but their basic install script... well, see below. Eric The beauty is, you don't need it. apt will do the job just splendidly. Eric If you want a GUI front-end, I guess gnome-apt works okay (don't know from experience). Besides, heard there were some security probs with Eric that thing... Take a look at that go-gnome script Helix makes you download first... that on uses apt. (It edits the sources.list and runs an apt-get update... then spits out a msg telling you to apt-get upgrade. The beauty of apt: the Debian-specific part is miniscule compared to what they do for RedHat, SuSE etc) Oh, and the security probs are (IIRC) in their binary installer. Since they don't use that on Debian (that basically does what apt already does), Debian is not vulnerable (and some msg on bugtraq (I think) even said so) Bye, J -- Jürgen A. Erhard[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (GERMANY) 0721 27326 MARS: http://members.tripod.com/Juergen_Erhard/mars_index.html vi has two modes the one in which it beeps and the one in which it doesn't -- Alan Cox pgp4Jbo6cMAiN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: helix-gnome for Debian 2.2 ?
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 11:10:15AM -0700, Dexter Graphic wrote: apt-get install task-helix-gnome? Does anyone know if the helix-gnome updater will work with Debian 2.2? I have the helix-gnome 1.0 CD and a very slow connection so it would be nice if I could just update the parts of gnome that have changed in version 1.2. My concern is that the updater works with Red Hat packages rather than Debian packages. The beauty is, you don't need it. apt will do the job just splendidly. If you want a GUI front-end, I guess gnome-apt works okay (don't know from experience). Besides, heard there were some security probs with that thing... -- /bin/sh ~/.signature: Command not found
helix-gnome for Debian 2.2 ?
Hi there, Will the helix-gnome .deb packages at the helix site work with Debian 2.2? The Debian site says that helix-gnome .deb packages are available at the helix-gnome site, but the only .deb packages available there are meant for woody. Are they compatible with Debian 2.2? I am not on the debian-user list, so please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks a lot Anselmo Almeida NIO, GOA
Re: helix-gnome for Debian 2.2 ?
Yes you can and I have it working with potato. Here's part of my sources.list: deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian woody main You have to install it as apt-get install task-helix-core. On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:05:59PM +0530 or thereabouts, Anselm Almeida wrote: Hi there, Will the helix-gnome .deb packages at the helix site work with Debian 2.2? The Debian site says that helix-gnome .deb packages are available at the helix-gnome site, but the only .deb packages available there are meant for woody. Are they compatible with Debian 2.2? I am not on the debian-user list, so please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks a lot Anselmo Almeida NIO, GOA -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- --- Who's watching the watchmen? ICQ: 15096825
Re: helix-gnome for Debian 2.2 ?
Yes, it will work. There is no big difference between the two yet. (potato and woody). Anselm Almeida wrote: Hi there, Will the helix-gnome .deb packages at the helix site work with Debian 2.2? The Debian site says that helix-gnome .deb packages are available at the helix-gnome site, but the only .deb packages available there are meant for woody. Are they compatible with Debian 2.2? I am not on the debian-user list, so please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks a lot Anselmo Almeida NIO, GOA -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: helix-gnome for Debian 2.2 ?
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 06:04:33AM -0400 or thereabouts, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: Isn't that apt-get install task-helix-gnome? either works. --- Who's watching the watchmen? ICQ: 15096825
Re: helix-gnome for Debian 2.2 ?
Isn't that apt-get install task-helix-gnome? Rino Mardo wrote: Yes you can and I have it working with potato. Here's part of my sources.list: deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian woody main You have to install it as apt-get install task-helix-core. On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 12:05:59PM +0530 or thereabouts, Anselm Almeida wrote: Hi there, Will the helix-gnome .deb packages at the helix site work with Debian 2.2? The Debian site says that helix-gnome .deb packages are available at the helix-gnome site, but the only .deb packages available there are meant for woody. Are they compatible with Debian 2.2? I am not on the debian-user list, so please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks a lot Anselmo Almeida NIO, GOA -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- --- Who's watching the watchmen? ICQ: 15096825 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: helix-gnome for Debian 2.2 ?
apt-get install task-helix-gnome? Does anyone know if the helix-gnome updater will work with Debian 2.2? I have the helix-gnome 1.0 CD and a very slow connection so it would be nice if I could just update the parts of gnome that have changed in version 1.2. My concern is that the updater works with Red Hat packages rather than Debian packages. Dexter
Re: helix-gnome for Debian 2.2 ?
Anselm Almeida wrote: Hi there, Will the helix-gnome .deb packages at the helix site work with Debian 2.2? The Debian site says that helix-gnome .deb packages are available at the helix-gnome site, but the only .deb packages available there are meant for woody. Are they compatible with Debian 2.2? I am not on the debian-user list, so please e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks a lot Anselmo Almeida NIO, GOA I am running the latest version of helix-gnome on Debian 2.2. It works great! This is how you get it: 1. Use the editor of your choice to add this line to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main 2. As root, update your packages using apt-get update 3. As root, install Helix GNOME using apt-get install task-helix-gnome Wait a few minutes, depending on your modem speed, then sit back and enjoy! HTH John
Re: Helix Gnome vs Debian Gnome -- worth the upgrade?
Kent West wrote: Nathan E Norman wrote: On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 01:15:34PM -0500, Kent West wrote: I tried to install HelixGNOME via the instructions for Debian on the helixcore website (lynx -source blah blah blah), and chose option 3 (full install), and it looked like everything was going fine, until I got a dependency error that libsound is apparently not available. I haven't been able to find this package anywhere .deb form, so I've just put HelixGNOME on the back burner for now. Erm, Helix supplies debs. They work, too. # Helix GNOME deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main deb-src http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main -- Nathan Norman Eschew Obfuscation Network Engineer GPG Key ID 1024D/51F98BB7http://home.midco.net/~nnorman/ Key fingerprint = C5F4 A147 416C E0BF AB73 8BEF F0C8 255C 51F9 8BB7 - Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature My bad. Although I had the first line in my sources.list file, when I did the install gdm was installed, only it came up broken (explanation below). So I tried to use kdm to see what effect it had and it was broken, so I did an apt-get install kdm, which then complained about the missing libsound package. So like the idiot that I am, I added my problem with Helix to this discussion, not thinking straight enough to realize that my problem was with KDE, not Helix. I reckon I need to get one of them Stupid signs to display. So here's my real problem with Helix: when I run gdm, it brings up a gnome login screen that if I accept the default X session of Gnome, dumps me into a screen with a Gnome-ish file-browser-type window that is partially off the screen and with a Gnome Tips window. I can close the tips window, but I can't access the title bar of the file-browser to move it or close it, etc. There is not Gnome taskbar (with the foot and other icons), and clicking on bare desktop background doesn't bring up any pop-up menus, no matter which button I use. So it appears that the install is broken on my machine. If anyone knows the solution, great; if not, no biggie; like I said, I've just put HelixGNOME on the back burner for now. Sounds like there's no window manager running. If I use the Gradient theme for Sawmill, the Sawmill window manager eventually crashes out and leaves all my windows in this state. I can close them via the File menu, if present. What I do, apart from not using the Gradient theme, is to select another window manager via the Gnome Control Centre, try it, and revert back to Sawmill to restart it. Mind you, I run a Gnome session, so I still have the Gnome Panel when Sawmill crashes. LeeE -- http://www.spatial.freeserve.co.uk ...or something
Re: Helix Gnome vs Debian Gnome -- worth the upgrade?
Edwin == Edwin Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Edwin Hi everyone, I am using the unstable debian release. Edwin Having read the news group for a while, I noticed that a Edwin lot of people like the Helix Gnome stuff. My question is Edwin if I upgrade to Helix Gnome now rather than to wait for the Edwin new Debian Gnome to come out, would that introduce problems Edwin in upgrading later on? coz I saw that the version number Edwin used by Helix is a bit different from Debian. Would that Edwin be a problem for next upgrade? I have been told that there are unofficial Debian packages available from Helix's website (or somewhere around there). Not sure about woody yet though. I suspect these should install fine, and worse case, if you have any problems, just go back to what you know works. I have never tried it myself though... -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Helix Gnome vs Debian Gnome -- worth the upgrade?
Hi there, There certainly are debs on Helix's web site, works fine on potato, there supposedly for woody. You will get one unresolved dependancy, just sort this via 'apt-get install' from the woody archive. I believe it's guile6? And, yes I think it's worth the upgrade! I had one problem with gdm but you can just do a 'update-rc.d -f gdm remove' to fix this! Anyway I prefer to start X from a command prompt so's I can specify the colour depth. HTH JohnG John Gould - Systems Support Engineer Power Innovations Limited Tel: +44 1234 223002 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Windows here, 's very dark! 32865e97b5342e762ab140e00f3da23b - Just 'Debian' On 5 Jul 2000, Brian May wrote: Edwin == Edwin Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Edwin Hi everyone, I am using the unstable debian release. Edwin Having read the news group for a while, I noticed that a Edwin lot of people like the Helix Gnome stuff. My question is Edwin if I upgrade to Helix Gnome now rather than to wait for the Edwin new Debian Gnome to come out, would that introduce problems Edwin in upgrading later on? coz I saw that the version number Edwin used by Helix is a bit different from Debian. Would that Edwin be a problem for next upgrade? I have been told that there are unofficial Debian packages available from Helix's website (or somewhere around there). Not sure about woody yet though. I suspect these should install fine, and worse case, if you have any problems, just go back to what you know works. I have never tried it myself though... -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Helix Gnome vs Debian Gnome -- worth the upgrade?
On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 06:11:56PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote: On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 08:35:36PM -0400, Edwin Lau wrote: Hi everyone, I am using the unstable debian release. Having read the news group for a while, I noticed that a lot of people like the Helix Gnome stuff. My question is if I upgrade to Helix Gnome now rather than to wait for the new Debian Gnome to come out, would that introduce problems in upgrading later on? coz I saw that the version number used by Helix is a bit different from Debian. Would that be a problem for next upgrade? Edwin Lau So far, the dependency checking of the debs seems to do the right thing. Beware, the task-helix-gnome want to give you everything and the kitchen sink. The 100+ themes for gtk and sawfish can really eat up bandwidth and harddrive space. All in all, it's a nice professional packaging of GNOME goodies with a little candy that's not in the Debian packaging. task-helix-gnome doesn't include the themes anymore, but it used to though. Regards Morten -- Morten Liebach [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://home1.stofanet.dk/liebach Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men (Martin Luther King, Jr.)
Re: Helix Gnome vs Debian Gnome -- worth the upgrade?
On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Morten Liebach wrote: Currently I use the potato with Helix GNOME and runs fine, I was installed the Debian Potato GNOME and the upgrade works perfectly. I have this line into sources.list: deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main The unstable Woody distro uses the HelixGnome, not the previous version of Debian Gnome, and It seems will be the future relation between Gnome and Debian... __ Josep Llauradó Selvas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User #153481 The only intuitive interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned. (in comp.os.linux.misc, on X interfaces.) FP: 199E 7539 13B7 AA30 0B0C 263E 5991 03A7 625F B24F __
Default Color Depth in X (was Re: Helix Gnome vs Debian Gnome -- worth the upgrade?)
this! Anyway I prefer to start X from a command prompt so's I can specify the colour depth. Swerving completely off topic here, but I see a lot of people do this. But if you don't like the default color depth that X comes up in, did you know you can change the default? I have the following line in my XF86Config in the Screen section: DefaultColorDepth 16 Which does what it says it does. Sets the default color depth to 16. Means I can enjoy the benefits of a graphical login without hacking startx or typing startx -- -bpp 16 all the time. Just a random note. Not picking on anyone :) Dan -- Dan Everton [EMAIL PROTECTED] | innovate, v.: To annoy people. http://www.powerup.com.au/~evos/dan/ |
Re: Helix Gnome vs Debian Gnome -- worth the upgrade?
Darlock wrote: On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Morten Liebach wrote: Currently I use the potato with Helix GNOME and runs fine, I was installed the Debian Potato GNOME and the upgrade works perfectly. I have this line into sources.list: deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main The unstable Woody distro uses the HelixGnome, not the previous version of Debian Gnome, and It seems will be the future relation between Gnome and Debian... __ Josep Llauradó Selvas [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried to install HelixGNOME via the instructions for Debian on the helixcore website (lynx -source blah blah blah), and chose option 3 (full install), and it looked like everything was going fine, until I got a dependency error that libsound is apparently not available. I haven't been able to find this package anywhere .deb form, so I've just put HelixGNOME on the back burner for now. -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Helix Gnome vs Debian Gnome -- worth the upgrade?
On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 01:15:34PM -0500, Kent West wrote: I tried to install HelixGNOME via the instructions for Debian on the helixcore website (lynx -source blah blah blah), and chose option 3 (full install), and it looked like everything was going fine, until I got a dependency error that libsound is apparently not available. I haven't been able to find this package anywhere .deb form, so I've just put HelixGNOME on the back burner for now. Erm, Helix supplies debs. They work, too. # Helix GNOME deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main deb-src http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main -- Nathan Norman Eschew Obfuscation Network Engineer GPG Key ID 1024D/51F98BB7http://home.midco.net/~nnorman/ Key fingerprint = C5F4 A147 416C E0BF AB73 8BEF F0C8 255C 51F9 8BB7 pgpQRiDdeBlfg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Helix Gnome vs Debian Gnome -- worth the upgrade?
Nathan E Norman wrote: On Wed, Jul 05, 2000 at 01:15:34PM -0500, Kent West wrote: I tried to install HelixGNOME via the instructions for Debian on the helixcore website (lynx -source blah blah blah), and chose option 3 (full install), and it looked like everything was going fine, until I got a dependency error that libsound is apparently not available. I haven't been able to find this package anywhere .deb form, so I've just put HelixGNOME on the back burner for now. Erm, Helix supplies debs. They work, too. # Helix GNOME deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main deb-src http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian unstable main -- Nathan Norman Eschew Obfuscation Network Engineer GPG Key ID 1024D/51F98BB7http://home.midco.net/~nnorman/ Key fingerprint = C5F4 A147 416C E0BF AB73 8BEF F0C8 255C 51F9 8BB7 - Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature My bad. Although I had the first line in my sources.list file, when I did the install gdm was installed, only it came up broken (explanation below). So I tried to use kdm to see what effect it had and it was broken, so I did an apt-get install kdm, which then complained about the missing libsound package. So like the idiot that I am, I added my problem with Helix to this discussion, not thinking straight enough to realize that my problem was with KDE, not Helix. I reckon I need to get one of them Stupid signs to display. So here's my real problem with Helix: when I run gdm, it brings up a gnome login screen that if I accept the default X session of Gnome, dumps me into a screen with a Gnome-ish file-browser-type window that is partially off the screen and with a Gnome Tips window. I can close the tips window, but I can't access the title bar of the file-browser to move it or close it, etc. There is not Gnome taskbar (with the foot and other icons), and clicking on bare desktop background doesn't bring up any pop-up menus, no matter which button I use. So it appears that the install is broken on my machine. If anyone knows the solution, great; if not, no biggie; like I said, I've just put HelixGNOME on the back burner for now. -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Helix Gnome vs Debian Gnome -- worth the upgrade?
Hi everyone, I am using the unstable debian release. Having read the news group for a while, I noticed that a lot of people like the Helix Gnome stuff. My question is if I upgrade to Helix Gnome now rather than to wait for the new Debian Gnome to come out, would that introduce problems in upgrading later on? coz I saw that the version number used by Helix is a bit different from Debian. Would that be a problem for next upgrade? Edwin Lau
Re: Helix Gnome vs Debian Gnome -- worth the upgrade?
On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 08:35:36PM -0400, Edwin Lau wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am using the unstable debian release. Having read the news
group for a while, I noticed that a lot of people like the Helix
Gnome stuff. My question is if I upgrade to Helix Gnome now
rather than to wait for the new Debian Gnome to come out, would
that introduce problems in upgrading later on? coz I saw that
the version number used by Helix is a bit different from Debian.
Would that be a problem for next upgrade?
Edwin Lau
So far, the dependency checking of the debs seems to do the right thing.
Beware, the task-helix-gnome want to give you everything and the kitchen
sink. The 100+ themes for gtk and sawfish can really eat up bandwidth
and harddrive space. All in all, it's a nice professional packaging of
GNOME goodies with a little candy that's not in the Debian packaging.
--
#! /bin/sh
echo 'Linux Must Die!' | wall
dd if=/dev/zero of=/vmlinuz bs=1 \
count=`du -Lb /vmlinuz | awk '{ /^([0-9])+/ ; print $1 }'`
shutdown -r now
Re: Helix Gnome vs Debian Gnome -- worth the upgrade?
The one thing I can't figure out is will there be a Gnome 1.2 as well? Or
is Helix Gnome 1.2 and Gnome will do something else? I know the libs and
stuff are 1.2 but the panel/etc is all still 1.0.55 (or so, im going from
memory). Will Gnome release a 1.2 with the same sort of Panel goodies that
exist in Helix Gnome? There doesn't seem to be any real indication as to
Gnome's future path ...
Cheers,
Corey Popelier
http://members.dingoblue.net.au/~pancreas
Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote:
On Tue, Jul 04, 2000 at 08:35:36PM -0400, Edwin Lau wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am using the unstable debian release. Having read the news
group for a while, I noticed that a lot of people like the Helix
Gnome stuff. My question is if I upgrade to Helix Gnome now
rather than to wait for the new Debian Gnome to come out, would
that introduce problems in upgrading later on? coz I saw that
the version number used by Helix is a bit different from Debian.
Would that be a problem for next upgrade?
Edwin Lau
So far, the dependency checking of the debs seems to do the right thing.
Beware, the task-helix-gnome want to give you everything and the kitchen
sink. The 100+ themes for gtk and sawfish can really eat up bandwidth
and harddrive space. All in all, it's a nice professional packaging of
GNOME goodies with a little candy that's not in the Debian packaging.
--
#! /bin/sh
echo 'Linux Must Die!' | wall
dd if=/dev/zero of=/vmlinuz bs=1 \
count=`du -Lb /vmlinuz | awk '{ /^([0-9])+/ ; print $1 }'`
shutdown -r now
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helix-gnome for debian?
Does anyone know if there are plans for the folks at Eazel to release helix-gnome for debian? -Brian -- Brian J. Stults Doctoral Candidate Department of Sociology University at Albany - SUNY Phone: (518) 442-4652 Fax: (518) 442-4936 Web: www.albany.edu/~bs7452
Re: helix-gnome for debian?
Brian Stults wrote: Does anyone know if there are plans for the folks at Eazel to release helix-gnome for debian? -Brian -- Nevermind. After some more searching, I found threads on a couple different mailing lists about this. Seems there was some debate, and some misunderstandings between various debian developers and Miguel de Icaza. I don't want to start that up again, so please disregard my question. For anyone who might be wondering, it looks like the initial plan was to have binaries for debian at release time, but they ran out of time and decided to release without debian support. I guess we can assume debian binaries will be coming later. -- Brian J. Stults Doctoral Candidate Department of Sociology University at Albany - SUNY Phone: (518) 442-4652 Fax: (518) 442-4936 Web: www.albany.edu/~bs7452
Re: helix-gnome for debian?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Brian Stults [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For anyone who might be wondering, it looks like the initial plan was to have binaries for debian at release time, but they ran out of time and decided to release without debian support. I guess we can assume debian binaries will be coming later. ISTR that their CVS tree now has debian/ directories for all the packages, so Debian support is just around the corner. :) - -- Graeme. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Life's not fair, I reply. But the root password helps. - BOFH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE5Hn0mPjGH3lNt65URAuKkAJ9KCjM4DfIyUzaD0mHA6x4Sgc3e4gCgggxo 5g0d9xBt59Q6k5hrpygnBlE= =lLp2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Helix-gnome and Debian?
slashdot had a ditty about helixgnome and I'm curious if anyone using debian for their desktop has messed with it and also if anyone is thinking about making debs? Here's the url: http://www.helixcode.com/desktop/ -- -Grant oio` They do not apprehend how being at variance it agrees with itself. --Heraclitus ioi`
